Just control our borders

Yesterday I joined a call with the Head of Border Force to discuss the extensive use of hotel accommodation and the largeĀ  numbers of asylum seekers and economic migrants crossing the Channel. I raised various issues in this call and with Ministers :

 

My constituents want to see some sense of urgency to transform this totally unacceptable situation.

Unacceptable to taxpayers having to pay Ā£7m a day for hotel bills

Unacceptable to genuine asylum seekers caught in a long queue unable to get their case resolved so they can live and work here

Unacceptable that we allow tens of thousands of people at our expense to stay here not working because we do not get around to making decisions on their cases

Unacceptable that we do not change the law to prevent clever lawyers helping economic migrants pursue false asylum and trafficking casesĀ  for too long and with too many appeals

Unacceptable to burden our hotels with people who should either be helped to find appropriate accommodation here or sent back to where they came from. We need the hotels for their intended purposes.

Ā 

  1. When are we going to legislate to close the loopholes?
  2. When are we going to determine claims for people coming from a range of other countries in a timely way, especially those coming from safe countries like Albania?
  3. When are we going to do more to safeguard our communities from any criminal element that may be trying to use asylum cover to come here toĀ  commit crimes?
  4. When are we going to arrest more of the people traffickers? Why is it so difficult to trade them given the open way they advertise their services? Canā€™t we follow the money?

 

236 Comments

  1. Mark B
    November 10, 2022

    Good morning.

    Unacceptable that we do not change the law . . .

    Laws created by politicians no less.

    As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    Why is it that no other country in Europe has the same problems ? They are not putting them in 4 and 5 Star hotels, so why are we ?

    Next time you turn up to work at the HoC maybe you should ask ALL your colleagues ? Because it is they that support ALL the legislation that allows this.

    1. Gary Megson
      November 10, 2022

      Well, how about you stop stamping your foot and shouting angrily, and suggest solutions. The refugees are here, now, what are you going to do? Send them back? No, their countries will not take them. Stop them leaving France? No, you trashed our co-operation with France when you pursued your failed Brexit. This is Britain’s problem. Deal with it, stop blaming other people. You took back control, you knew what you were voting for, right?

      1. a-tracy
        November 10, 2022

        Statista records that Approximately 1) 9,800 Iranian nationals applied for asylum in the United Kingdom in 2021/22, the most of any nationality. Asylum seekers from
        2) Iraq made up the second highest nationality, at 6,141.6 Sept 2022
        3) Eritrea 4,648
        4) Albania 4,522
        5) Syria 3,353
        6) Afghanistan 2,641
        7) Sudan 2,294
        8) Vietnam 1,799
        9) Pakistan 973
        10) India 969

        “Their countries will not take them” why won’t they Gary? Do we give any of these Countries aid? If so, immediately stop the aid until they repatriate failed asylum seekers and criminals, and then the aid can continue.

        Did Blair cause this problem in Iran and Iraq by meddling in their politics? Do we take in their clerics that are currently forcing women by threat in those Countries into wearing head coverings? We don’t want their backward, misogynistic ideas in the UK, so can we send them straight back if they teach this female oppression in the UK? If not, why not? If they aren’t living up to our freedom standards? Their clerics are filmed telling women not wearing head covers to move to the UK, so quid pro quo.

        Every time the Tories have tried to enact control over this matter, the Lords full of lefties, thanks to Blair and Brown, stop the legislation, and Tory PMs also put anti-British Lords in power to stop Boris. We’re sick of them now and need a way to remove them. If they want to be a Senate, we need to be able to remove them when they stop the will of the commons.

        1. Peter2
          November 10, 2022

          Another excellent post Tracy.

        2. Hope
          November 10, 2022

          I thought Cameron set up, at our expense, camps in Syria to have people vetted abroad!! What happened? Like Huntā€™s drive to stop health tourism quietly dropped when media attention went on something else.

          1. a-tracy
            November 11, 2022

            He did Hope, and Jordan and Lebanon. We are a very generous Country, it is never discussed in the media, and news reporters just allow one voice to slate us at every turn, why?
            Jun 22 2021 “The UK has a long and proud history of supporting refugees in need of protection and the Syria crisis is no exception. To date, we have committed over Ā£3.7 billion in response to the crisis in the regionā€”our largest ever response to a single humanitarian crisis. Since 2012, across Syria and the region we have provided over 28 million food rations, over 21 million medical consultations, 6 million cash grants or vouchers, 10 million relief packages and over 14 million vaccinations. Our aid provides life support to millions of Syrians, in support of refugees to remain in countries in the region, and it enables host communities to provide for and manage a protracted refugee presence. Jordan and Lebanon have shown tremendous generosity in hosting 670,000 and 880,000 registered refugees respectively.”

        3. margaret
          November 10, 2022

          power over the NHS has now been taken over, We have no chance

        4. NBill Brown
          November 10, 2022

          A Tracy
          This is an interesting contribution , but probably not very realistic not very useful.
          Country development aid doesn’t work on the basis of their policies for gender.
          So altogether rather unrealistic

          1. Peter2
            November 11, 2022

            Billy
            You have failed to understand that Tracy was arguing that financial aid to certain countries should depend on them treating their people, especially females with respect and decency.

          2. a-tracy
            November 11, 2022

            Bill, what? I don’t understand why is withdrawing aid unrealistic if these Countries don’t cooperate taking back their own citizens? We don’t have to send aid.

            The UN should concentrate on sorting out these failing Countries instead of trying to hammer good, fair and free Countries like the UK!

            What have their policies for gender got to do with anything? We should make our aid dependent on gender if that is the case. We don’t have to keep taking all this, why don’t the big international agencies start to get involved peacefully and if they have open votes do they have votes for women to?

      2. Michelle
        November 10, 2022

        This has got nothing to do with Brexit now you deal with that. Right? We did vote to take back control only the mainstream elite didn’t want that and set out to erect every hurdle possible, but then you know that. Right?
        This was an ongoing problem before Brexit, pouring in via France.
        France didn’t take them back then either, nor did their own countries, they don’t need to do they when our country is run by the people it is.

        Britain is a soft touch, the whole world and his dog knows that. Why? Because it is mismanaged on purpose nothing at all to do with the Brexit that never really happened.
        Maybe the wonderful EU may do a bribe, come back and pay us extra money and we’ll consider helping you out with the ‘refugees’ . What a wonderful relationship.

        They are not refugees, they are people that have paid handsomely to choose where they come to and we all know why they are coming.
        If their own country folk are more than happy to cast them adrift, why in the world are we the ones taking all the flack. Some idiots grizzling about we’ll be a pariah state. Why? no one else is. I read where Thailand are having a crack down on people they find without papers or those that commit crimes. Don’t see them being cordoned off as a pariah state. Don’t see them and can’t imagine other countries not dealing swiftly with such an issue, and they are not in the EU either.
        The whole worlds problems are not our problem, and time we stopped being bullied into believing they are.

        1. Fedupsoutherner
          November 10, 2022

          Excellent post Michelle.

      3. acorn
        November 10, 2022

        Interesting answer to my question, from a person with knowledge of the matter as to why Centrica had to apply for an exemption from the EU “third party access” rules, to reopen the Rough gas storage facility. Similar to previous applications for expansion of UK LNG processing facilities.

        GB’s energy industry and its regulators are still operating to EU rules and regulations; we are out of the EU internal energy market post Brexit. The Trade and Cooperation Agreement hasn’t changed anything much; the new trading rules have not been agreed yet. Everything appears to be hinged on the Northern Ireland Protocol getting implemented as the EU intended.

        1. a-tracy
          November 11, 2022

          ” the new trading rules have not been agreed yet”

          The new trading rules with whom?

          We only got out in January 2021 before that, we were tied into the withdrawal agreement terms. The trade and cooperation agreement is supposed to ensure that there are no tariffs or quotas for trade in goods between the UK and the EU; what are the barriers, if they have gone back on this deal?

      4. Narrow Shoulders
        November 10, 2022

        Send them back? No, their countries will not take them

        I think the problem is more that you and your ilk won’t let us send them back Gary. From what the Albanian Prime Minister said last week I think they would be welcomed back as would the other nationalities who pitch up here looking for a better life at our expense.

      5. No Longer Anonymous
        November 10, 2022

        Gary

        Two Remain politicians caused this problem: Blair and Cameron and their disastrous regime changes, Iraq and Libya.

        Blair caused Brexit. He really did.

      6. Lorraine
        November 13, 2022

        Seems being in the EU didnt work in our favour anyway! Implying it did is dishonest. We accepted far more request from other EU countries than they did us. They mostly refused our request to send migrants back.

        “According to Home Office figures, between 2015 and 2018, 7,365 incoming requests were made to transfer people into the UK under the Dublin regulation, from which 2,365 people were transferred to the UK (some requests may still be pending).Ā 
        This means that the UK accepted around 33% of requests. During the same period, the UK made 18,953 outgoing requests to transfer people to other Member States, from which 1,395 people were transferred abroad. This amounts to around 7% of outgoing requests by the UK resulting in a transfer.Ā 
        In 2018, the UK received a total of 37,453 asylum applications, and made 5,510 outgoing transfer requests under Dublin III. Of these 5,510 requests, 209 migrants were transferred out of the UK under Dublin III, whilst 1,215 came in, making the UK a net recipient in 2018.”Ā 
        https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/home-affairs/immigration/what-is-the-dublin-iii-regulation-will-it-be-affected-by-brexit/

    2. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      You are too generous, Mark B? For every person they help, there is another who is NOT helped. That means the Brits, who fund it all, get reduced services yet pay through the nose for the non-contributers to get better treatment for free.

      The government doesn’t care. They really REALLY do NOT CARE! It is too ‘hard’ to challenge the bleeding hearts who care sod all for Brits so don’t bother so join the club. I’m alright, Jack! If millions of Brits were to die through lack of NHS, doctors, dentists, decent housing, heating, food, then who cares? The Brits can’t get legal aid and the rest of the freebies etc. and they won’t have private funds or help to sue, so who cares? They can safely be ignored, but human rights exploiters demand FAR BETTER for illegals! Meanwhile the government will fund endless legal battles to MAKE SURE the freeloaders get better care than legal citizens! These traitors care for ANYONE but Brits and our country. It is virtue signalling on steroids!

      12 years and the problem is worse than ever. Give up your houses (and pay through the nose) for the illegals, people. They are the only ones the government cares about! NONE of them care for the Brits. We are just cannon fodder for the criminals they invite in, and cash cows to keep the freeloading illegals in comfort while many Brits go cold and hungry.

      1. acorn
        November 10, 2022

        A suggestion from an expat fellow number cruncher in Spain. I paraphrase. Let the immigrants in and let them take up a vacant job immediately where their skills fit; employers can sort out accommodation with local government help. Take an equal number of thick; sick; lame and lazy indigenous Brits; stick them in the boats the immigrants came in, and tow them back to the continent’s shores. That way, over a few years, the average knowledge, skill and the will to work ethic, will rise across GB along with its economic productivity. Eventually investors will say let’s build that factory in the UK; we get a quality product at a competitive price there.

        1. Peter2
          November 10, 2022

          Gosh acorn what horrible comment.
          Really, would you actually drag the sick from their beds and exile them to another country?
          I’m shocked.

        2. a-tracy
          November 11, 2022

          acorn, people like you make me laugh. How did you get your first home, did the council help you? How did you get your first accommodation did your employer help you. Don’t make me laugh! councils leave British families in expensive private rentals on the breadline in preference for giving people who rock up in a dingy (low-cost social rental) houses for free.

          You say “Take an equal number of thick; sick; lame and lazy indigenous Brits”. Do you personally know anyone like this in the UK? Perhaps we could start with your friends and family first.

      2. No Longer Anonymous
        November 10, 2022

        Shirley M

        I don’t think the Tories will survive the next general election. Quite a few big names are going to go too, in previously safe seats.

        They’d better start trying to get their new mates to vote for them because we sure as hell won’t be.

        No EU

        No excuses

        80 seat majority, remember.

        1. Shirley M
          November 11, 2022

          The CONS don’t want to win the next GE. They want Labour to win and take the flack for putting us fully under EU rules. The CONS are too cowardly and dishonest to admit they want to do it themselves.

    3. Ian Wragg
      November 10, 2022

      No concrete action will be taken because you know Rishi is engineering defest at the next election so you can pass the ballot.
      His latest move to cancel enterprise zones completes the total reversing of any vaguely tory policies.
      Why would an immigrant want to halt immigration especially from the Sub Continent.

      1. Ian Wragg
        November 10, 2022

        Still the ecoloons bring the M25 to a standstill. It’s just terrorism against the law abiding public.
        It’s only a matter of time before Joe public retaliated and one of them is killed.
        We know they are doing the governments work. After all it’s OK to ship American franked gas with twice the carbon footprint of home produced gas as long as the emissions are American.
        Your a bunch of chancerd allowing this to happen
        Fishy has to go together with the clown Hunt.

      2. a-tracy
        November 10, 2022

        Ian, how the heck can Rishi alone decide to stop enterprise zones, it is time our majority of Tory MPs elected all over rose up against this and vote together for a change and force Rishi into a U-Turn for the good of these left-behind areas.

      3. rose
        November 10, 2022

        Many immigrants want mass immigration stopped, because they value the country they chose to come to and don’t want it overrun.

    4. Ian B
      November 10, 2022

      @Mark B +1
      You start to see that our HoC is stuffed full of egotist careerist that are happy to take TaxPayers money but have no interest in serving their constituents. Lots of ill thought out well meaning claptrap being spouted daily, but little else.
      As I have said before the ECHR has no place in a Democracy and the HoC should wake up and realise the ECHR replaces the purpose of MPā€™s. In over simplistic terms either the ECHR needs to go or MPā€™s themselves, we shouldnā€™t be paying the cost of both. Its this laziness on the part of the Establishment that is destroying the Country

    5. Peter Wood
      November 10, 2022

      Couple of simple ideas
      1. Genuine asylum seekers would not throw away their documents, they need to prove that they come from a risk country or location.
      2. Everyone without documents is treated as an illegal economic migrant.
      3. Everyone who has reached puberty is considered an adult unless can prove age.
      4. Economic migrants are offered a return home, or a 3 year work programme at a secure location, where they are required to complete productive tasks, and education to integrate into society. Anyone with special skills, qualifications will be assigned appropriate activities.
      At any time, the immigrant can request a return home.
      5. Men and women will be separated unless they can prove they are family.

      Just a start of the concept to be followed.

    6. Hope
      November 10, 2022

      Mark,
      Javid was ā€œproudā€ he closed the detention centres when HS. What provision did he make as an alternative? Where Iā€™d he think they would go or be tracked if application failed? HO knew in 2003 south east public services could not cope with huge influx of migrants from Blaireā€™s era of seeking people from around the world to come here. They were distributed around the country and provided housing. Javid came back from holiday because 200 crossed the channel at Christmas. He came back from Australia when the steel works were going to close, he did nothing and complied with EU environment/energy and allowed industry to go abroad!

      Mark, after 19 years I think it reasonable the HO had a plan to cope with the Tory mass immigration policy which they took over from New Labour. Without Farage and GB news it would not be in the public domain with people wondering why so many immigrants appeared on their doorstep! MSM were not even talking about it. U dear Blaire era If anyone raised immigration they were was racist. Hence Brownā€™s vile comment to Gillian Duffy.

    7. beresford
      November 10, 2022

      GB News claims that some of these so-called poor refugees are having their luggage sent on ahead of them prior to making their ‘dangerous’ dinghy crossing.

      1. Hope
        November 10, 2022

        DeSanches speech in Florida is worth listening to or reading. It sounds conservative values can be put into policy where Chinese flu, lockdowns, transgender nonsense and woke crap is derided for what it is!

        Oh for a Conservative party that stands for conservative values and policies not socialist world group think.

        Sunak through Heaton-Harris about to cave on ECJ remaining supreme over UK courts and ECHR remaining supreme over UK. I thought UK left EU! DeSanches had courage to stand his ground as did Naomi in South Dakota- real leaders not left wing managers.

        1. beresford
          November 10, 2022

          Apparently other countries remain within the ECHR but simply ignore judgements which are against their national interest. Why can’t we just pass legislation repudiating the ability of the ECHR to intervene for those who have no legal right to be here?

      2. SecretPeople
        November 10, 2022

        I really hoped their luggage is being checked.

      3. Lorraine
        November 13, 2022

        I saw a video of their luggage being delivered. Delivered from where though, their homes? France? These channel crossing migrants have intentionally made themselves homeless by coming here and yet are given free accommodation and more. Circo, using tax payer money from the government, are asking private landlords to home these channel migrants, offering a five year contract to pay the rent, rates and utility bills, for FIVE years. If our own children made themselves intentionally homeless, when they have a bedroom they can occupy at good old mum and dads, they would not be given anything! It is an absolute disgrace! Send them home before they have a chance to unpack their luggage!

    8. The Prangwizard
      November 10, 2022

      Why does each MP and every member of the HoL not take 2 or 3 in their homes, and there must also be space in the parliamentary estate? With all the security there they would also be nice and secure, after all we are told they are all victims and innocents.

    9. Timaction
      November 10, 2022

      Sir John is the Government. They have had 12.5 years to sort this out. They deliberately haven’t. So they wont. It’s their hidden policy.

      1. Donna
        November 10, 2022

        Yes. In order to “Build Back Better” you first have to destroy everything. In order to impose draconian, liberty-wrecking laws, you first have to make the law-abiding majority so furious that they’ll accept them.
        And in order to gain acceptance for a digital currency, you first have to destroy the value of their money.

    10. Nottingham Lad Himself
      November 10, 2022

      Why?

      To make people like you angry and so to vote for parties that you wrongly imagine are not to blame, and equally wrongly that voting for them will fix it.

    11. Peter
      November 10, 2022

      Is anyone else just tired of all the talk?
      Politicians may want to put their views on record but for the rest of us it’s a waste of time.

      1. Mark B
        November 10, 2022

        Not if you are prepared to lend another party other than the LibLabCOM your vote.

        It is the only thing they understand.

        1. Fedupsoutherner
          November 10, 2022

          Well I am. If Labour get in so what? It won’t be any different but there is no way I’m voting for any of the 3 main useless parties ever again.

  2. turboterrier
    November 10, 2022

    Last night on the Mark Steyne show on GBNews he did a segment on the hotel at Heathrow with 4000 asylum seekers who have been there for months.
    What a complete embarrassment fo the whole of Westminster and its occupants. The problem goes back years and not one leader of any party has tried to stop it. Kippers all of them two faced and gutless as is our media and press. One station has taken this on whilst the rest ignore it and the taxpayers get hammered. Disgusting.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 10, 2022

      Indeed and he also highlighted the current high excess deaths issue again. So what is causing these? Vaccines, NHS failures, ambulance delaysā€¦ when are they NHS going come clean and the SMS and the government going to discuss this. Circa 250 people a day with a large proportion under 50. So what is going on one would usually expect lower rates after a pandemic.

      1. Michelle
        November 10, 2022

        I’m sure there’ll be a law along pretty soon prohibiting voicing concerns and asking questions over this.
        They silenced all those professionals who warned against the actions being taken over the flu, sorry covid the most deadly disease known to man…….well yes if you do some fancy footwork with the data recording.

        No one who should be held accountable will be held accountable, in fact I dare say they’ll do alright out of it all.

        1. Lifelogic
          November 10, 2022

          Indeed, depressing is it not.

          Endless attacks from PPE graduate MPs on all the very sensible and correct Barrington Declaration people and those who sensible objected to vaccinations for the many children & young who clearly had no need of them, even if they had been effective.

      2. Sharon
        November 10, 2022

        LL agreed. This excess deaths problem is common to other countries too: Australia being one, USA another. So itā€™s unlikely to be entirely due to the NHS. But, whatever the reason, no one seems prepared to look into why itā€™s happening.

        1. Lifelogic
          November 10, 2022

          +1

      3. Lifelogic
        November 10, 2022

        MSM )media) not SMS sorry.

      4. Cuibono
        November 10, 2022

        +many
        They used to do it with trenches and tanks.
        And they shot young boys who ran away from the unspeakable carnage.
        ā€¦They expect us to feel collective guilt for slavery!!!

      5. THUTCH
        November 10, 2022

        You would expect them to be up for all the reasons many of us stated in many below the line comments since March 2020.
        For instance, a report from the British Heart Foundation, published this week, found that ‘over 30,000 people in England have died ā€˜needlesslyā€™ of heart disease since the start of the pandemic. Thatā€™s 230 deaths every week that wouldnā€™t have happened had we not locked down’.
        Excess cancer deaths are a factor too – an entirely predicatble and predicted (see anything written by the awesome Professor Karol Sikora over the past 2-3 years) outcome of the NHS focusing exclusively on Covid-19.
        We never did a cost/benefit analysis of lockdown, but the health costs are now in plain sight. And they are grim and will continue to bleed into excess death numbers and human misery for years to come.

      6. a-tracy
        November 10, 2022

        Lifelogic, what proportion is under 50? You say it is ‘large’ so out of the 250 what number is that? Did they have no other conditions at all?

        1. Lifelogic
          November 10, 2022

          The Hart group has some breakdown good figures on this from different countries.

          1. a-tracy
            November 10, 2022

            Iā€™m just interested in our Country. I thought if you were making such a strong assertion that under 50s are dying excess deaths you would know the ā€˜largeā€™ figure you are writing about.

        2. Lifelogic
          November 11, 2022

          The weekly death ONS figures are perhaps the best source here. Dr John Campbell has good videos looking at these.

          1. a-tracy
            November 11, 2022

            https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/excessdeathsinenglandandwales

            This is a lot of information to wade through. You love maths and figures can’t you just give me the excess number of under 50’s dying. I’m not the one trying to say this is true and correct.

          2. a-tracy
            November 11, 2022

            that should say
            “the number of excess deaths in the under 50’s that the statistics show didn’t have any other conditions they died from but just those relating to the CV19 vaccinations”

      7. Hope
        November 10, 2022

        LL,
        Good article in con woman today about Jeremy Ferrara etc. and the way they directed govt into action.

    2. Cheshire Girl
      November 10, 2022

      No wonder there is cynicism when the Government says there is a cost of living crisis, when it seems we can afford all of this, and it is lumbered on the taxpayer.
      Frankly, I am surprised that there is not a mass non payment of taxes. If some Government doesnā€™t get a grip, I fear there will be trouble, and soon.
      I am like many others, and resent a lifetimes hard work, going to pay for all and sundry to come here, and enjoy the benefits that we have paid for, and then being lectured by Politicians that it is our ā€˜moral responsibilityā€™!

      1. Michelle
        November 10, 2022

        The problem is most of those talking about ‘moral responsibility’ have no idea of the meaning of the words or their application.
        If they did they would realise they are falling very short in their ‘moral responsibility’ to the people of this nation first and foremost in all areas.

      2. Wanderer
        November 10, 2022

        +100. Seeing the PM go to COP and promise to give more of our money away was infuriating. Fine if you have a personal fortune of hundreds of millions, not so fine if you have saved and struggled all your life and will still not have a “comfortable” retirement.

      3. Cuibono
        November 10, 2022

        No, no!
        We are all good, obedient sheep and do as we are told.
        AND THE POLITICIANS KNOW IT!
        Look what they have done to us already.
        And the only protests allowed or admitted to are those supporting the global agenda.
        (I wonder if those idiot stooges will ever realise how they are being exploited?)

      4. Lifelogic
        November 10, 2022

        Not easy to have a mass non payment of taxes as most are automatically deducted before you even see the money.

        1. Cuibono
          November 10, 2022

          Absolutely.
          We are well stitched up due mainly to our absolute compliance.

        2. Colin Synnock
          November 10, 2022

          The tax we can avoid paying, to acertain extent is Vat. Only purchase Vat bearing goods and services when essential. Avoid discretionary spending.

      5. Hope
        November 10, 2022

        Sunak happy to splash our cash/taxes by the billion for climate reparations! Next week we will all be taxed even more than the 75 year high for Sunak and Huntā€™s pro EU global agenda. But not allowed to be more competitive than EU!

        Ā£11.8 billion wasted by Sunak on Furlough fraud, Ā£8.6 billion wasted on benefit fraud! Ā£34 billion wasted on NHS IT system, Ā£36 billion wasted on track and test, Ā£40 billion wasted on PPE contracts some given to mates. Johnson just gave another Ā£560,000 yearly bill to put his mates in the House of Lords, donkey sanctuary! EU still paid billions yearly! Ā£33 million to check goods for EU from GB to NI, our own country! Gave up fishing to EU another couple of billion. The list is endless.

      6. Fedupsoutherner
        November 10, 2022

        Cheshire Girl. I see Rishi has agreed to give China millions now to compensate for climate change. Wait a minute while I get off the floor laughing. China? The biggest polluter because they are making everything we used to make. How about they compensate us for that nasty dirty virus they lumbered us with? Has anyone noticed we are living on borrowed money and have a wrecked economy?

    3. Diane
      November 10, 2022

      I believe that was also an ‘exclusive’ TT and a good report & discussion too with filming & an attempt to investigate. I’m sure there is a lot which is hidden from the general public. ( Can be found on GBNews site + Youtube Mark Steyn 09 Nov ) With 4000 in that featured hotel & with what was reported to have a capacity of around 600 rooms, suggesting 6 or 7 to a room, how does that square in terms of insurance, fire & safety & other legalities. Just what is going on. Also, the number of councils now taking out injunctions & legal actions to stop asylum seekers being housed in hotels is on the increase & we keep hearing about people being placed allegedly without prior consultation & secrecy. Just what confidence do people now have to try booking & staying in an hotel. Just what confidence do people have in getting our important travel and tourism sector up & running again. No wonder they want to hide ‘stuff’. And on a personal note, an establishment I used several weeks back, asking at the time if any of their rooms had been ‘procured by government’, it was difficult to get an answer at the time. All was well in the end but then just recently I have discovered that the establishment is indeed being affected by what is going on with all these government placements.

  3. turboterrier
    November 10, 2022

    Forget Climate Change and all the other pseudo concerns that take up the days at Westminster.
    Call an emergency session where all attend get in there get locked in and don’t come out until it is sorted. All the treaties and laws removed and a proper solution based upon the fact that anybody trying to enter the country without a passport will not allowed to stay under any circumstances. Those assisting these illegal immigrants no matter what their position will be prosecuted. When you add up everything about the true cost of all this debacle taking everything into account not just hotel bills, legal aid , prison costs for law breakers and everything else the leaders of all our political parties should resign and never be allowed back into politics such is the level of their combined incompetence.
    They have chosen for years to ignore the situation. Forget about their Human Rights what about ours? We the people are the ones paying for this total debacle.

    1. Michelle
      November 10, 2022

      Bravo. Now back to reality, it ain’t going to happen.

    2. Donna
      November 10, 2022

      The Government (ie taxpayers) are funding the Lawyers and the “Charities” who offer services to these criminal migrants.

      They could make a good start by stopping the money going to people who are exploiting the legislation. No legal aid whatsoever for asylum seekers who enter from a safe country and no money whatsoever to the “Charities.”

    3. Berkshire Alan
      November 10, 2022

      Turbo Terrier
      Indeed any sensibly run company would do as you suggest, sit down and talk it through until you have a consensus on a workable solution, and a planned timetable for action.
      But you forget all those who run the company would have some skin in the game, and may lose all of their income or jobs if they fail, not so with our Mp’s, many who think Parliament is just a talking shop to attack each other, coming up with solutions or sensible alternatives, is something completely foreign to them.
      They just want to cheer on failure of the other side, hence we are where we are, with many rejoicing in failure.

  4. formula57
    November 10, 2022

    Thank you for your efforts although it is astonishing that what you had to say needed to be said to Ministers and the Border Force.

    Thank you also for sparing us information about any replies from them for we have had our fill of intentions, commitments, pledges and the like that result in nothing but a worsening situation.

    Why do not Ministers just admit they are incapable and raise taxes to build more hotels?

  5. Des
    November 10, 2022

    It’s no good to try and claim concern now when your government has encouraged illegal immigration for years now. The Conservative party has been in power for a long time and all the problems we are now suffering can be laid directly at your feet. Massive invasion of migrants, huge inflation, the covid scam and subsequent injection of millions with what is now, by government’s own statistics, the most lethal vaccine ever conceived, cost of living disaster, rule by the WEF, the ridiculous green agenda, errosion of liberty and I could go on. The country is in a slow motion collapse and I think it will get far worse because of this government’s policies.
    How about action not words?

    1. Sharon
      November 10, 2022

      Hear, hear, Des!

      Though, wasnā€™t it Tony Blair who first flung open the gates of unlimited immigration. But agree with everything else you say!

  6. Fedupsoutherner
    November 10, 2022

    If other countries in the EU can close their land borders then why can’t we control ours? Italy is refusing to take any more men. We are going to have a serious gender problem here soon. I see a village or small town is taking the government to court because they are sick and tired of having to take too many immigrants in and using hotels that are meant for tourists. I hope they are successful but all it will mean is that other areas will get more. I wonder how our NHS….those we clapped for… will manage with all these extra people coming in and nurses striking? The country is falling apart John and all we hear is talk. Entering a country without a passport is a CRIMINAL offence. They should not be given the time of day. And for God’s sake can someone start getting tough with these eco loons who are seriously interfering and disrupting people’s lives? Several were eventually taken down from gantry yesterday yet only something like 4 arrests were made??? Throw the book at them. Better still secure them to the gantry with 10 days supply of water and leave them there. Justice in this country is a joke.

    1. Cheshire Girl
      November 10, 2022

      FUS:

      1000%. Agreed.

    2. Sir Joe Soap
      November 10, 2022

      No only that but our very own Snake is off in Egypt talking about things which might/might not happen in tens of years’ time. Presumably not therefore on this call. We don’t hear here the Border Force reply.

    3. a-tracy
      November 10, 2022

      FuS the Country isn’t falling apart; the nationalised functions are falling apart with a political intention to bring this Government down.

      From Border Force to the Home Office
      From Dentists to hospital appointments
      From Ambulances to Universities
      More wants more.

      How much do our graduate nurses above grade 5 compare to other Countries nurses? Their complete benefit packages including full sick pay for months on end, nights and weekend enhancements and defined pensions. What this government needs to do is stop clinical nurses from becoming ward managers, they can become Matrons, train other nurses and orderlies that are now called ‘nurses’ for food bank claim purposes and put properly trained Administrative and operations Managers in charge and get clinical nurses back nursing.

      When we are told nurses are going to food banks, ask what grade, how many hours are they doing per week, 24 or less? Are they single parents? What is their benefits package in full? Let’s make the judgements we are asked to make with the full details.

  7. Lifelogic
    November 10, 2022

    When indeed, 12 years of ā€œConservativeā€ Government? We have to deter the migrants from crossing, just as we have to actively deter the road blocking nutters with severe & deterrent punishment not aid and assist them as the police surely did. Had the police and criminal justice system done this at the outset them we would surely not have had the injured policeman yesterday and the vast damage to our economy.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 10, 2022

      Good to near Andrew Bridgen MP in the poorly attended vaccine debate taking sense about the vast size of the current excess deaths. One of very few MPs with any science education much beyond GCSE level. Also another good video by Dr John Campbell on this topic. Not a topic that is going away for many years. Boris and the Pandemic ā€œexpertsā€ got nearly all the big things wrong it seems. Lockdowns, Vaccines, Schools, Universities, the Economy, Net Zero and expensive unreliable energy, the endless government waste, test and traceā€¦ and yet it continues under Sunak and you all have to pay for it.

    2. Lifelogic
      November 10, 2022

      But the. much of government/LEA activity is directed to official road blocking anyway.

  8. Peter Parsons
    November 10, 2022

    Asylum seekers cross the Channel because it is the position of the UK government that a claim for asylum can only be made once a person is on UK soil. Change this to introduce safe and legal routes to claim asylum while in another country (for example, by being able to lodge a claim at any UK embassy or consulate) and the need and incentive for asylum seekers to cross the Channel goes away.

    The UK government could do this, but they choose not to.

    1. Donna
      November 10, 2022

      That will make absolutely no difference to criminal migrants who have no genuine case for asylum and know it (ie the Albanian criminals who don’t apply for a visa and instead pay people traffickers). They will still use illegal means to get here.

      We have a system to bring some genuine asylum seekers to the UK (ie Afghans who worked with the British army). What you are proposing is intended to ramp up the numbers applying from anywhere else on the basis that they have a member of their extended family living here.

      No. The country is full. And we have no obligation to import millions from the 3rd world because their second cousin, once removed, managed to force his way in a few years ago.

    2. Dave Andrews
      November 10, 2022

      The government knows full well if they did what you suggest the numbers would increase one hundred fold. The ones that have money to pay people traffickers are the least worthy and they would continue to come as well as those from a legitimate route.

    3. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      Peter, that wouldn’t work. The majority are not refugees, and they know their claim would fail if assessed legitimately and out of the UK. However, once they set foot in the UK they know they are home and dry and here forever, even if their claim fails. Even criminal and violent failed asylum seekers are allowed to stay. They have NOTHING to lose and lots to gain by entering illegally. The government made it so and shows no signs of changing.

    4. Peter2
      November 10, 2022

      PP
      As long as all would be told that they are already in a very safe democratic country ie France and therefore their request is refused.
      If the law needs changing to achieve that result then we need to do just that.
      Your policy would increase the number of claims by tenfold in my opinion.

    5. beresford
      November 10, 2022

      So you can enter a procedure of indeterminate length which will reject the majority as they have no credible claim OR you can get into a dinghy (or exploit the CTA with Ireland) and immediately be put up in a hotel in Britain with spending money, health care and education and an army of lawyers blocking your slight chances of deportation. The act of destroying your documentation is an admission that you have no claim. We need to disincentivise these migrants by immediate deportation to somewhere they don’t want to go. Hand-wringing about wicked traffickers is a red herring, they are serving a market and are not required in order to buy a dinghy and an outboard motor.

    6. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      But theyā€™re not real asylum seekers ā€¦.theyā€™re economic migrants using our own system, its loopholes and wokeness against us

    7. rose
      November 10, 2022

      Peter Parsons, this is a tiresome and oft repeated left wing lie. We have safe legal routes from the Ukraine, Hong Kong, Afghanistan, recently from Syria, from the camps in Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan – which we pay for incidentally – from the UN resettlement scheme, and from the special children’s resettlement scheme. How many more people do you want us to take in and where do you propose to put them? Our population would be 35 million now if it had been left alone. We don’t even know what it is now or how long before it reaches 100 million. There 9 billion out there. How many do you think would rather be here than there?

    8. Original Richard
      November 10, 2022

      Peter Parsons :

      Dream on.

      Illegals will continue to pay the people smugglers to get them illegally into the UK BECAUSE they know that their claim for asylum would not be granted, quite possibly because they already have a criminal record, or have committed human rights abuses, or because they are known terrorists, or simply because they are economic (but not necessarily cultural) migrants.

      Why else do they destroy all their ID?

      However, do not worry, our corrupt Government, Opposition, Parliament together with the judiciary will ensure that whatever they may have promised the electorate at election time both illegal and legal migrants will continue their invasion of our country. For instance, the Government via the Cabinet Office and the Home Office funds the organisations taking it to court over their Rwanda plans.

    9. a-tracy
      November 10, 2022

      Peter, they cross the channel because they know in France they are in offices, squatting, sleeping in tents in underpasses and tents in mud, but in England we generously put them in nice accommodation for months on end and rarely return them, plus they’re not expected to work or even clean their own space! It is beyond a joke now. Our Home Office staff are not fit for purpose, the question is why are all these nationalised officers failing the public that pay their wages. Why are their Managers failing in their remit? Thousands of staff, nothing getting done. Why are taxpayers funding legal aid lawyers millions of pounds per year, if these lovely lawyers want to do this one day per week, why aren’t they pro-bono cases? How much do we pay per case per lawyer, barrister etc. shouldn’t they be on basic rates lower than they get to process British claims, this is why they don’t have to deal with that backlog more money can be earned disrupting removals.

    10. Iain Moore
      November 10, 2022

      Proposing safe legal routes suggests you want to destroy our country, may be that is your aim.

      Perhaps you would care to set aside your virtue signalling for a moment and give us a figure of how many people would take up your offer if you set up a safe legal route from Somalia? The liability would be opening us up to would in the many, many millions.

    11. Michelle
      November 10, 2022

      We already have safe and legal routes. We had Mrs May sign us up to the UN Migration Compact completely ignoring a huge petition against it.
      We’ve heard successive Home Office Ministers boast of how we already take in more than other EU countries, and we are a damn site smaller.

      To say they can claim asylum here once they’ve landed elsewhere only shifts the deck chairs on the sinking ship.
      They will still all want to come here, and I really can’t see many being denied asylum regardless of how bogus their claim is.
      So we keep getting the numbers, and gradually our home, our culture disappears and stability disappears also.

      We have done more than enough over the years regards refugees. It wouldn’t be quite so bad but we hear of people returning for visits to the country they fled from!! If they can visit it is safe to return, leaving a space for someone genuinely in need.
      It’s time to try and put ourselves first.
      Other countries are not shy in doing so and they are not international pariahs and they certainly don’t put up with illegals and criminals.

    12. Lifelogic
      November 10, 2022

      Hardly you would jest both these plus and the illegal crossings on top.

  9. Fedupsoutherner
    November 10, 2022

    If the government needs to find money for nurses then an easy way is to sack alot of unecessary management. We never used to nee diversity managers at over a Ā£100k a year so why now? The money saved would give nurses a decent pay rise although I do think asking for 17% is a joke. I get the impression the unions want to bring the Tories down. They are doing a good job of that themselves with their inaction over things that are important to the electorate. We seem to be ignored more and more.

    1. turboterrier
      November 10, 2022

      F U S
      Do you not not find it strange that reporters and interviewers never ask the leaders of these striking unions how much do they earn? When theatre asking for these ridiculous rises?

    2. Cuibono
      November 10, 2022

      +1
      All to crash the NHS.
      Same MO as the mines, steel etc.
      Unions no longer on the side of the workers..they are socialist/Marxist set ups motivated to destroy this country ( and Europe?).
      Look what a good job they have done.
      And all they had to do was bamboozle the weak-kneed idiot politicians into believing their vile narrative of historic guilt!!!

    3. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      The function of diversity, equal opportunities and motivation was all done by your line manager ā€¦its was our government(s) that allowed and funded the civil service & local government to develop separate management/supervisory roles ā€¦which has sadly became the norm in our woke society

    4. a-tracy
      November 11, 2022

      The unions don’t just bring the Tories down though FuS, they bring all the private sector down, struggling to survive, people are battening down the hatches again, just as Hunt and Sunak want, well done guys.

      The unions and nurses are holding patients to ransom, we have no choice of using their service, there is nowhere else to go and collectively they are so big and powerful that they have too much power over us, what if they get their 17%, do the teachers then want 17%, the social workers, the council staff, the fire officers, it is going to go WILD.

      The unions use average nurses’ pay including Band 1 who are unqualified lowest-grade workers to bring the averages down, there are more of them too. We should get the true figures of what the public thinks of a qualified nurse’s average plus their full benefits package. Look they deserve good wages as their skills rise, but they aren’t badly paid; most retire at 60 on very generous pensions that you can’t buy in the private sector. It’s going to come to a choice for new recruits, go on nest pensions and have your higher pay today (the government takes 50% of it back in direct income taxes of workers immediately anyway). When they do part-time agency working on top of their 3 12-hour shifts for the NHS, I wonder if they pay employee’s ni, student loan etc., on that or just income tax? Do people with several jobs have to fill in an annual assessment the same as a self-employed person does?

  10. DOM
    November 10, 2022

    The UK is slowly being dismantled right before our very eyes. The weapons of Globalist war are there for all to see. It seems to be an unstoppable force with its proponents embedded deep with the British body politic while some are external to the UK operating in full view and without concern nor shame

    A once decent nation being deliberately turned into the proverbial dumping ground

    1. Sharon
      November 10, 2022

      Dom
      Well said!
      It would appear that all the conspiracy theories of the last couple of years, apart from those that have been paused by us, the electorate, are slowly happening one by one. But actually, this is decades of salami slicing coming to a head. As the then Prince Charles stated, ā€œā€¦.we have a small window of opportunity.ā€ Presumably that was before enough people woke up to what is going on. Thankfully lots of groups have worked hard to resist the attack on us and slowed it down a bit.

      1. a-tracy
        November 11, 2022

        Dear, oh dear. Indeed, he was very useful and unprofessional.

    2. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      Our elites just aren’t interested

    3. SecretPeople
      November 10, 2022

      Slowly, then all at once – to me it feels like we are at the ‘all at once’ stage.

  11. Lifelogic
    November 10, 2022

    A bonfire of EU laws is easily achieved

    Jacob Rees-Mogg

    So when is it to be actually delivered? Deregulation is a win, win for the public and for tax revenues. Over regulation is a huge tax and burden that does not even generate tax revenue, quite the reverse. A parasitic job creation system.

    1. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      The bonfire of EU laws is on the back-burner ā€¦no one and I mean no one is championing this in government or parliament ā€“ remember its all about the ā€˜level playing fieldā€™

    2. rose
      November 10, 2022

      JRM has gone with very good grace to the back benches. What are we to read into that? He seemed to be the only Minister getting on with the bonfire.

  12. Sakara Gold
    November 10, 2022

    What is our new PM doing at COP27 in Egypt? He has done nothing to protect our planet!

    1. He continued the Conservative ban on onshore wind.

    2. In the leadership election, he backed banning solar farms across much of the UK.

    3. He refused to restore the home insulation programme funding that the government cut in 2012 – leaving millions in fuel poverty.

    4. He backed a massive expansion of North Sea oil and gas, giving Ā£bns in new tax breaks, while refusing similar tax breaks for renewables.

    5. His home secretary is passing even more authoritarian anti-protest legislation through parliament, targeting climate protestors and imposing punitive and draconian 10-year prison sentences.

    6. He changed the remit of the Bank of England to include a DUTY to promote more UK bank lending to oil and gas corporations, despite banks like Barclays & HSBC being among the worldā€™s largest funders of fossil fuel corporations.

    7. He banned King Charles – a globally respected climate protector – from attending Cop27; despite him being also head of the Commonwealth, many of whose nations are suffering from devastating climate-exacerbated extreme weather crises.

    8. He kicked the climate change minister out of the cabinet.

    What a message Sunak brings to the many oil dictatorships assembled in Egypt!

    1. MFD
      November 10, 2022

      So sorry to inform you Sakara Gold but most with any brain have rejected the Climate Scam. As a seventy plus Brit I know there has been no change in the weather or the long term climate. We do not need some young twerp talking nonsense, as we have seen recently with the idiots glueing themselves – morons!
      Its time to go back to work and pay our depts, gradually reducing tax payers money being wasted on layabouts.
      Fingers out and earn your own crust or starve is my opinion.

    2. IanT
      November 10, 2022

      He’s also signed a deal to import fracked US gas, which may be neccessary short term but why not allow some test fracking sites to go ahead and monitor their actual impact (managed by an external engineering consultancy)

      I’ve no idea what fracking here would save but it has to be many billions and it would obviously reduce our reliance on external sources. We are going to need gas for several decades yet. As for more renewalbles – when we have a way to store their excess output (e.g when the wind blows) then maybe they will make more sense but otherwise frack and get money into SMRs, which could be easily placed to use existing grid connections. It would also be an investment in UK (Rolls Royce) technology for a change.

    3. beresford
      November 10, 2022

      Now he is King, Charles is supposed to be apolitical.

    4. rose
      November 10, 2022

      The King doesn’t get banned: he gets advised by his Prime Minister. No-one knows what passes between them.

      It would be unwise of the King to take part in this increasingly contentious political forum. He would alienate many of his subjects who think and worry about the effect such jamborees are having on Western civilization.

    5. Original Richard
      November 10, 2022

      Sakara Gold :

      There is no climate crisis and in fact deaths/year from natural disasters has fallen dramatically despite enormous population increases.

      CO2 is plant food and we need more of it in the atmosphere to promote food growth and prevent famines.

      Empirical evidence shows the cost of wind power to be at least double that of the last CfD contracts and if we are to have the ā€œabundant, always availableā€ energy claimed by the Net Zero Strategy then we will need, using hydrogen as a means of storage, to build 7.5 times more installed wind power for any given amount of dispatchable energy. In fact to have sufficient energy the UK would need to cover half the North Sea in wind turbines.

      Furthermore there is no energy security when 95% of wind turbines and 100% of solar panels are supplied by China plus China controls the raw materials for batteries, motors and generators.

      The UK consumers have been conned by the wind CfD contracts. Firstly because the wind companies are charging the current high energy prices, brought about by the deliberate restrictions on fossil fuel exploration/production, rather than supplying at their CfD prices. Secondly by being able to sell the same electricity twice. Once as ā€œrestraint paymentsā€ and then by selling the constraint paid electricity to off-grid customers.

    6. Ian Wragg
      November 10, 2022

      Then he at least got something right if what you say is true. It’s just that he’s a tax and waste socialist limp dumb and is very anti British.

    7. JohnK
      November 10, 2022

      When you put it like that, it almost makes me think Rishi is doing a good job.

    8. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      Ref your point 3:
      Since the energy crisis of the mid 1970s all governments have been providing homes with fully funded or part funded schemes to insulate homes ā€¦after 40 odd years of the various schemes I believe that every home that could have been insulated, has been insulated
      The local government grants are still available – https://www.london.gov.uk/programmes-strategies/housing-and-land/improving-quality/warmer-homes

    9. Wanderer
      November 10, 2022

      You make him sound like rather a good egg!

  13. Sea_Warrior
    November 10, 2022

    You seem upset. Imagine how upset we are. The first action needed is to remove all financial support (food, accommodation, pocket-money) from those arriving irregularly.

    1. Donna
      November 10, 2022

      The best way to find an NHS dentist is to take a ferry to France and hop on a dinghy back, losing your passport and ability to speak English on the way.
      You’ll get a GP appointment the same day and “free” dentistry a day or so later.

    2. Nigl
      November 10, 2022

      Zero political antennae indeed political stupidity let alone any humanity. Pictures of large numbers of women and kids freezing and starving to death flashed around the world. I donā€™t think so.

    3. IanT
      November 10, 2022

      What did we do to German POWs in WW2, we built camps in remote places to house them. I don’t see the problem with this approach.
      As a young squaddie, I was housed in ‘spiders’ – six wooden billets (20 men in each) connected to a central toilet and shower facility. They were blooming cold in the winter and someone had to get up early and light the rooms only boiler. But would this be worse than the ‘Jungle’ in Calais? We were young and fit and well fed. What’s changed so much that we can’t house these young men in similar accomodation?

      1. Wanderer
        November 10, 2022

        Yes IanT. I worked (for a very short period) with the illegals in Calais. It was extremely interesting. We were giving free handouts to them which were sometimes refused by them as “not good enough”. There were turf wars between different nationalities. In a crowd they were chaotic. They were conditioned by the charities to feel like we owed them something. It was a real eye opener.

        It’s crazy that they can swap a tent in Calais for a 4 star hotel in the UK. Of course they should be housed as cheaply as possible, if we get stuck with them here. Barracks and bunks are fine.

  14. The Prangwizard
    November 10, 2022

    When is your government going to stop bringing 50000 a year over?

    When is the RNLI goi g to stop asking for money from us so they can keep helping?

    1. Ian B
      November 10, 2022

      @The Prangwizard, In a round about way the new leader placed in the RNLI has stated what happens to your Charitable donations is up to him, if he wants to support those he thinks need the money elsewhere in the world he will and he does. In a nutshell a donation to the RNLI is no longer about funding what used to be a wonderful service provided by very brave people. Its about ego. From the changes and the new attitude its easy to deduce that being part of the facilitating Criminal People Trafficking lays comfortably with those now running the RNLI

    2. turboterrier
      November 10, 2022

      The RNLI are operating in their best and only interest and the public have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
      The truth of the matter is that they are knowingly aiding and abetting criminal organisations, but the high profile imaginary broadcasts showing them “saving lives” keeps their coffers being replenished with not one jot of thought about the impact on this country and its people.

      1. Fedupsoutherner
        November 10, 2022

        True words Turbo. I don’t give to the RNLI anymore.

    3. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      Its not so much that the number is 50,000+ (including over-stayers & undocumented) this yearā€¦.its that its 50,000+ every year and has been for years
      And this government hasnā€™t returned any, probably a couple of million criminals roaming around the UK without a care in the world

  15. Iain gill
    November 10, 2022

    Unacceptable that we end up granting asylum in far higher percentage of cases than most other countries.

    Unacceptable that we do not arrest overstayers on work, tourist and student visas.

    Unacceptable that many who would not be allowed into the country at a British airport are flying into Dublin, crossing the land border, ferry to mainland UK, make their way to the south east of England… And stay long term.
    Unacceptable that our country has become a joke.

    1. Gary
      November 10, 2022

      More misinformation – not so not so!! The PSNI in NI and other Uk agencies are very busy in the towns across NI and at the ferry ports checking the documentation of suspicious travellers.

      1. Iain Gill
        November 10, 2022

        on the contrary I know many people in the South East of England who entered via exactly that route

    2. turboterrier
      November 10, 2022

      Iain Gill

      Well said.

  16. Mary M.
    November 10, 2022

    Good Morning, Sir John. Thank you for setting out our frustration – ‘unacceptable’ is far too polite of course.

    Might the Government be hoping to bring in ID cards for us all? Perhaps the cunning plan is that when ID cards are seen to be the only way to keep track of illegal migrants and criminals, the British citizen will reluctantly agree to also being digitally tagged.

    It really is difficult to think of any other reason for this ‘inability’ to control our borders.

    1. Iain Moore
      November 10, 2022

      Yes, the British establishment have failed to control our borders, so they want everyone of us to carry ID, a passport to go out of your house no less. It goes against my English culture where the state keeps its nose out of my business. ID cards will be all the proof we need to show the British state is no longer fir for purpose, and as they have failed in this fundamental task to control our borders may be it is time to finish with them, English independence perhaps.

  17. BOF
    November 10, 2022

    The laws used/abused by these alleged asylum seekers have been made by Parliament! Now we have a government with an 80 seat majority that is apparently powerless to change those laws! Unbelievable.

    Another question to ask is, why do we house them, feed them and give them any money at all when they have paid perhaps Ā£3,500 for a dinghy ride across the channel, or a lorry ride or even flown in!

    A country that cannot control its borders is not a country at all.

  18. wes
    November 10, 2022

    Good Morning. I look forward to the answers (if any)

  19. Donna
    November 10, 2022

    If the Government WANTED to stop the invasion it would take the actions necessary to stop it, starting with leaving the ECHR, repealing the Human Rights Act and now the Modern Slavery Act.

    They won’t do it.

    I strongly suspect that there was a quiet agreement during the BRINO negotiations that “we’d take our fair share” of the criminal migrants the EU is allowing to flood into Europe but, for PR reasons the French Government pretends to try and stop them leaving France and the British Government pretends it wants to stop them coming.

    Nothing else explains the “failure” to control our borders.

    1. Mark B
      November 10, 2022

      This is what I think.

    2. Diane
      November 10, 2022

      Donna: I would add that it perhaps has not helped that some time ago, there was a point blank refusal from Border Force that boats would not be pushed back; other initiatives cast aside; a comment from an outgoing BF boss who opined that control of borders was a pain in the a…e – or wording to that effect; and now a B F union which also represents many Home Office staff is reportedly joining a legal action ( e.g. 5/11 in The Guardian ) against the Home Sec over the allegedly appalling conditions in recent weeks at the Manston ( Kent ) centre ( it only opened this year ) but no doubt unintentional and obviously very necessary at the time, due to the sheer number of arrivals resulting in extended stays and severe overcrowding, considered illegal, now reportedly alleviated, or at least should be by now as the last 9 days – Nov 01 to Nov 09 inclusive have been officially recorded as having ZERO arrivals. And I don’t think I’m being unkind but I’ll bet that if you questioned many MPs on the detail of what has happened in the past, what has been / is happening now, the myriad details which emerge in media reports day by day on what is going on around the country, indeed the facts, figures and opinion brought to light on Sir John’s blog every week by ‘the people’, not many would have any clue. I also question what parts of the new Nationality & Borders legislation is working, which are not and which are totally deficient.

  20. BOF
    November 10, 2022

    I see the government is once again ‘talking’ to the EU about the NI Protocol. This is another border we have lost/handed over control of. This time to a foreign power.

    They never learn that it is not possible to negotiate with the EU.

  21. Mick
    November 10, 2022

    Good job Hitler didnā€™t try to invade us in the 40s with small boats or we would all be speaking German now, your government needs to get a grip with these illegals either damage the boats in France or turn them straight around at sea stop being a taxi service for them and putting them up in hotels some of us can only dream of, off topic also stop being so soft on these road blockers if they chain themselves to over motorway gantries just leave them there to freeze, just get the police to do there job or the public will

    1. Wanderer
      November 10, 2022

      Mick, your “damage the boats in France” suggested an alternative to me.

      Guarantee the smugglers double the annual amount they make already, forever, if no migrants come across the Channel. Penalty clause if any do get across, so we’re not cheated. At Ā£7000 per non-migrant it would save us a fortune. We could also scrap the Border Force boats and save a few bob.

      1. Bloke
        November 10, 2022

        Given half an hour’s thought, possibly any person wanting to solve the problem could devise an efficient solution.
        There is no shortage of good ideas. What is lacking is the intent of MPs to take action plus the many opponents funded to resist every attempt.

  22. Michelle
    November 10, 2022

    So basically more words then.
    I won’t ask when they will be translated into action because I already know the answer to that.

    I note the wheeling out of Anderson MP, a nice little act in Parliament and he has a northern accent so playing to the red wall gallery. Look, we are angry and we are right on it, vote for us and we promise that by 2050 we will be putting some serious measures in place with some very harsh words.

    Well, that’s how stupid and gullible the politicians think most people are isn’t it? I can’t say I blame them as people have shown themselves to be so by continually falling for the lies.
    You know full well that there is no intention to stop this except making it all legal and therefore the ‘illegal’ will disappear, just as Labour did.
    So lets stop pretending and beating about the bush because that is what all this ‘diversity built Britain’ and removal of Imperialism from the education system or whatever you call it, diversity officers and multi-culture is all about, the softening up of the people to accept they no longer have a stable solid home.
    It is and will be whatever suits the globalist elite in charge and it best serves them to not have a cohesive and deeply connected people putting spokes in the wheel.

    Without further ado just stop talking, leave all the borders open and lets get it over with.

  23. Brian Tomkinson
    November 10, 2022

    The only conclusion to be drawn is that the government has no intention of dealing with this. If it had things wouldn’t be getting worse. They are complicit in bringing in illegal migrants by using the laughingly titled Border Force and RNLI to act as a ferry service for these people and then spending vast, unlimited amounts of taxpayers’ money on accommodation and benefits for them. All the time we are given daily warnings of the dire straits the economy is in and how taxes must rise. Disgraceful.

  24. Shirley M
    November 10, 2022

    When will this government (aided by Parliament) STOP deliberately destroying the UK. It’s a simple straightforward question. Ask it!

  25. X-Tory
    November 10, 2022

    Oh for heaven’s sake, Sir John, how many times do I have to explain that there are NO ‘genuine asylum seekers’ who come here. That is because they ALL pass through safe countries (especially France).

    The ONLY solution to the problem is for the government to declare that anyone passing through a safe country will be AUTOMATICALLY considered bogus and will therefore be deported back to their country of origin WITHOUT ANY RIGHT OF APPEAL.

    This is the ONLY way of eliminating the pull factor. Anything less than this and migrants will believe that they will be able to stay here, either with ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain) or ELR (Exceptional Leave to Remain, granted to those who don’t qualify as refugees but whose home countries are deemed unsafe). Only by saying that the UK will no longer issue ILR or ELR to ANY migrant, and that they will ALL be deported, will the situation change.

    Of course the law will need to be changed, but first we need to change the government, as this lot of useless traitors will never do this.

  26. Richard II
    November 10, 2022

    Thank you, Sir John.

    And the response to your questions was…?

  27. Cuibono
    November 10, 2022

    Hereā€™s another puzzlementā€¦
    Why is it easier ( a doddle) for a country to imprison its entire population ā€¦
    Than it is for the same country to repel an invading force?
    WHY?
    Where are the forces that terrorised legitimate, tax-paying citizens?
    Why have they been ordered to chaperone civil disruption with tea and biscuits?

    1. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      We need to disband Border Force – not fit for purpose

    2. Mark B
      November 10, 2022

      And why do people who illegally enter our country have their Human Rights and yet, when it can to the, Right to Family Life, under the Convention for Human Rights for us, this was denied and no lawyer ever once spoke up in our defence ?

    3. a-tracy
      November 11, 2022

      Maurice Snelling, from Staffordshire, aged 72! Has been jailed for six months after he sold mince pies and wine during lockdown, mistakenly thinking he was in Tier 2 – and trying to destroy evidence of his actions. He also tried to destroy evidence to cover his trail, and ignored emailed and written requests from Staffordshire police for CCTV footage, proving his crimes, Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court heard. But the confusion stemmed from the pensioner claiming his premises was in Cheshire, which was Tier 2, BirminghamLive reported. However, in reality, Snelling was just inside Staffordshire, which was in Tier 3, meaning he could only operate as a takeaway or drive-thru.

      GET THIS MAN OUT OF PRISON, FOR ***** SAKE. I hate this Countries court system now. We strongly penalise the wrong things, have these protestors causing a crash, injury to a police officer, people to miss their flights out of Heathrow and Gatwick, stopped the Dartford crossing loosing industry millions?

      John, please you and your fellow MPs, Gavin Williamson actually do something good and nice and get this man out of Prison this weekend. Surely community service would have been strong enough.

  28. Dave Andrews
    November 10, 2022

    Anyone coming across the English Channel isn’t an asylum seeker and should be returned to their home country immediately. Schemes like the one with Rwanda have their place for those that refuse to provide their identity and countries that refuse to take their citizens back again.
    Even Afghanistan has a birth rate of 4 per woman, so the people there evidently think it’s a good place to start a family. There shouldn’t be any problem sending someone back there.

  29. Roy Grainger
    November 10, 2022

    When ?
    Never. The measures needed to fix the problem will be voted down by a proportion of Conservative MPs working with the opposition. Sunak knows this so will avoid even trying.

    As for the “safe route” enthusiasts – how many people in the world do you think would genuinely qualify for asylum in UK based on the current criteria ? I’d guess at least a billion.

    1. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      I keep wondering if the CONS think that making our country poverty stricken will stop the boat people being attracted to come here, so they can avoid having to make any effort to sort the problem THEY caused. I thought through the consequences of these actions, and it wouldn’t work. There is always going to be a country that is even poorer and even accessibility to organised criminal activity will be a big draw. It is our pathetic government at fault, allowing open house to everyone, not only open house but a dirty great welcome mat in the form of free everything and given greater care than LEGAL citizens! Criminals galore are also welcome and you can stay forever (unless you are EXTREMELY unlucky and didn’t get to take advantage of FREE legal aid which is unavailable to the tax paying Brits who fund it, but our government seems unwilling to get off their backsides and deal with it. Who cares about the UK? We are just here to help every non-Brit in the world get a better life and if that means the Brits get a worse and harder life …. who cares?

      1. Fedupsoutherner
        November 10, 2022

        Shirley. Hear hear. Well said.

  30. rick hamilton
    November 10, 2022

    From a vantage point on the other side of the world it is appears that your naive, spineless, hand-wringing politicians are being taken for mugs by every grievance-mongering group on the planet.

    In the case of illegal immigrants most of them are obviously not refugees as they have paid criminal gangs to bring them over from an EU country. Not being refugees must disqualify them automatically from seeking asylum. Why is it so difficult to announce that anyone arriving in the UK without permission will be charged with a crime and when convicted ( by courts the following morning ) will be deported at once and will never be allowed to enter the country ever again.

    Where to deport them to ? I would imagine that the British territory of South Georgia has some bleak open spaces where suitable barracks could be built as a holding camp until they can be sent elsewhere permanently. There must be lightly populated countries that need a workforce of healthy young men. They might appreciate the bribes that Sunak would be delighted to give them.

  31. Cuibono
    November 10, 2022

    Who are the People Traffickers?
    Those who carry it out or those who allow it?
    Both?

    1. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      Correct – In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person to commit a crime

      1. Cuibono
        November 10, 2022

        +1

  32. Frank
    November 10, 2022

    Having a word with the manufacturers of the rubber crafts, would be a good start.

    1. The Prangwizard
      November 10, 2022

      I gather, to make our humiiation greater, the Home Office is storing the ribs because they dare not sell them, or destroy them in case the owners make a claim for them back or claim compensation if they can’t get them back.

      Our government administration is sick subversive and of course is staffed by perverse leaders.

      1. Fedupsoutherner
        November 10, 2022

        It’s truly madness. Pathetic. The French are allowed to wreck the boats on their side….That’s when they actually manage to stop them…why can’t we destroy the boats? God it gets worse.

  33. MPC
    November 10, 2022

    Nothing is going to change. Braverman will probably resign in exasperation and Jenrick is too ineffectual to do anything meaningful. My tips for staying sane: 1 keep working itā€™s the best antidote 2 if you canā€™t work take up a consuming hobby with others who donā€™t want to talk about decline 3 stop watching the Mark Steyn Show. Admirable as he is his show is pessimistic and depressing. His themes are all about western governments destroying their democracies, especially the Tory governmentā€™s facilitated destruction of our way of life.

    1. Mark B
      November 10, 2022

      Alternatively you can watch the BBC and live in bliss ignorance and in La-la-land.

    2. Fedupsoutherner
      November 10, 2022

      MPC. I actually said to my husband today why did we leave Spain? I am seriously thinking about going back to live there and there’s loads I don’t like about the place but at least the sun makes you feel better.

  34. Nigl
    November 10, 2022

    I cannot see any answers, therefore, so what?

  35. Pauline Anne West
    November 10, 2022

    Why are we not using DNA to determine which countries these asylum are coming from – then send back the false claimants to reduce the load?

    1. SecretPeople
      November 10, 2022

      It is possible to analyse dialects.

  36. Narrow Shoulders
    November 10, 2022

    Most countries are sage for those who don’t make waved. Why make an exception for Albania. All claims should be assumed to be false until proven

  37. Bloke
    November 10, 2022

    The British people don’t want to see ‘some sense of urgency’
    The want IMMEDIATE ACTION.
    The matters have been neglected for years causing what remains worsening daily.

  38. acorn
    November 10, 2022

    Redwood Tweet: “I am asking the Environment Secretary to ensure the Environment Agency and water companies do draw more of the currently plentiful water from our rivers to refill the reservoirs. The pace of refilling is too slow.”

    Having used one of my replies on this site; where you discovered reservoirs are filled by pumps from rivers and aquifers, you take an opportunity to blame the water companies for filling them too slowly. Hilarious, but typical!

    1. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      Nothing about the wasteful leaks, acorn? Why are they allowed to ration water and still demand full payment from their customers? There is no incentive to fix leaks if they can make better profits just by by rationing and avoiding bills for repair. The massive increases in population should have given them plenty of money to invest! They get more money and supply less water. A nice little earner, eh?

      1. acorn
        November 10, 2022

        Ask JR about privatising natural monopolies. Frankly if I had bought one of these water companies for pennies in the Pound, I would sweat the asset into the ground for maximum profit, while loading it up with debt and transferring that cash into the wallets of the shareholders. Eventually, file for insolvency guarantying a bailout by the government to rescue this essential piece of national infrastructure. Simples!

        1. a-tracy
          November 11, 2022

          Or the Government could let them go bump and just take them over.
          When water contracts were sold, weren’t their conditions?
          Ie the pumps had to be increased and maintained to top up reservoirs and increased numbers of reservoirs built as investment when demand exceeded a certain point?
          Water leaks couldn’t pass a % point?
          Are they operating under licence to the government? Or can they just do what they want?

  39. rose
    November 10, 2022

    “When are we going to determine claims for people coming from a range of other countries in a timely way, especially those coming from safe countries like Albania?”

    This is sidestepping the point that they are coming from France and sometimes Belgium. Therefore they are not asylum seekers and should not be treated as such, but sent straight back.

    On the point about pursuit of the gangs, I would say don’t bother. They are like the Hydra’s heads. So much money is given to them by illegal immigrants, that more will always spring up to meet the demand.

    Yes, follow the money. Stop sentimentalising the passengers who are providing the money. Their money is driving a huge criminal enterprise which is now bigger than the drugs trade, and possibly out of control. Only the loss of the illegal immigrants’ money is going to stop the gangs from proliferating; only stopping the demand is going to stop the supply. This means HMG and all its arms have to start being honest. They have to stop pretending the passengers are victims. Stop calling them vulnerable. They are not. They are the customers driving the demand. They are causing the problem. They are breaking the law. They should be sent straight back to the safe country they embarked from without permission.

  40. glen cullen
    November 10, 2022

    All great questions ā€“ however completely pointless until you ask the only ā€˜oneā€™ question that matters
    ā€˜When are we going to leave the Council of Europe ECHRsā€™

  41. agricola
    November 10, 2022

    I find it unacceptable that we fail to act with common sense

    Every embassy and consulate overseas should have an assylum/ immigrant office. Applicants can be identified officially, finger printed, and DNA profiled before any decision is made on their application. Once an application is approved they can be given a safe legal way to enter the UK. Those who are deemed to be economic migrants, illegals , and criminals can be emphatically told that any attempt to enter the UK will be deemed illegal. They will attract no benefits or recourse to legal aid. The ones who just turn up by whatever route will be returned to origin or Rwuanda.

    To ensure it works, our relationship with the ECHR needs to rebalanced while at the same time our predatory lawyers need to be put back in their box.

  42. Nigl
    November 10, 2022

    Question. We are told one person only can deal with two claimants a week

    Why is that number so low? If true what is being done to speed it up? How many staff are working from home? Are all their broadband connections and computers superfast? Are key strokes/usage times being monitored as in performance management?

    How is the Border Force/Home Secretary ensuring no one absconds/how many have absconded? How many illegal immigrants are there overall? How many of the longer stayers are being removed weekly?

    These are the questions that should be asked but they would highlight the total inefficiency /not fit for purpose of the Home Office under your watch so you donā€™t ask them.

    Instead we get nicey nicey generic questions, all asked many times before, to convince your voters that you are doing something about the problem.

    What are waiting times in the NHS, Land Registry, Probate Office, Passport Office, Planning Departments?

    Someone I know needed a cardiac monitor (Holter) for 24 hours. Only two available for a vast area. Priority given to urgent cases so less urgent (albeit not confirmed until the scan is done) put back potentially for ever. These cost only Ā£1200 approx so double the capacity for Ā£2400. Funding declined regularly by local Trust, all while egregious amounts are wasted on vast levels of bureaucracy.

    Phone call to a private clinic. They have many of these available, next day appointment.

    Not one senior manager/chief exec etc in the private sector would survive if they provided this utter joke of a (lack of) service.

  43. forthurst
    November 10, 2022

    “Unacceptable to genuine asylum seekers caught in a long queue unable to get their case resolved so they can live and work here”

    It is unacceptable to entertain an asylum claim from someone who has just left a safe country. France is a safe country so is the Republic of Ireland. It is unacceptable to enable successful asylum seekers to transmute into economic migrants and remain. They must return to their own countries after the US has stopped bombing them.

    Our domestic and foreign policies should be designed to benefit us, exclusively. Neither the Home Office nor the Foreign Office is fit for purpose. The existential difficulty to solving this is that the Tory Party itself is not fit for the purpose of governing the country and neither is the Opposition. Only a change in the electoral system to allow us to select who we want to represent us could ever stop the inexorable downward trajectory of this country. Administrations which have the backing of only a minority of the electorate as in this country lack moral authority which makes them subservient to special interests groups.

  44. Original Richard
    November 10, 2022

    It is perfectly clear that we have a totally corrupt Government/Opposition, Parliament, Civil Service, judiciary, MSM and institutions who now at best simply do not care for the UK or at worst are actively trying to destroy it.

    As evidenced by not only the state of our finances, lack of border controls and a breakdown of law and order, but simply because there is absolutely no distinction between Government/Opposition, Parliament, Civil Service, judiciary and MSM on the major policies of high tax, high spend, uncontrolled immigration (legal and illegal) and Net Zero.

    There is no debate and no democracy when manifesto pledges are ignored and major issues are not decided by referendums.

  45. Bert Young
    November 10, 2022

    This country has gone completely mad over a number of issues ; the illegal migrant crisis is merely one of them . Establishing priorities at a time of the sort of financial crisis we face now is down to the Government ; they must not give way to a small minority of – so called intellectual protestors . The country demands tough action and we must get it now . Margaret Thatcher would turn in her grave .

  46. The Prangwizard
    November 10, 2022

    Why does each MP and every member of the HoL not take 2 or 3 in their homes, and there must also be space in the parliamentary estate? With all the security there they would also be nice and secure, after all we are told they are all victims and innocents.

  47. Original Richard
    November 10, 2022

    There is no intention by our Government/Opposition, Civil Service, judiciary, institutions or indeed the MSM, to control our borders or for the immigrants to integrate with the indigenous population.

    They want the UK to become a highly diverse, multicultural, multi-lingual and multi-tribal island off the north coast of Europe and to look no different to Africa or the Middle East and contain many different areas each with its own laws, religion, customs and way of life.

  48. Iain Moore
    November 10, 2022

    The Conservative party would happily go to its destruction defending the ECHR and Refugee Convention. They prioritise these international commitments over the interests of our country. We saw it with the EU where the British establishment had to be dragged kicking and screaming from the EU , and we see it again here.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we had a Government who stood foursquare with us rather than their allegiance being somewhere else?

  49. Bill Mayes
    November 10, 2022

    I see no response from anyone, SJ. Did you ever get one that convinced you?

  50. Bill Mayes
    November 10, 2022

    I see no response from anyone, SJ. Did you ever receive a convincing story?

  51. Keith from Leeds
    November 10, 2022

    It is all a result of weak government led by weak people. We have had 12 years of talk & very little action. Why not tow the dinghies back to France & sod what the law says. Why stop traffic on the M25 because eco loons have locked themselves to gantries? Just leave them there & let the traffic flow.
    When will non-payment of the BBC license fee be de=crimalized when it is hostile to conservatives & most of the population? When will we see real reductions in the cost of government by making thousands of Civil Servants redundant? When will some MPs properly research net-zero & realise it is a complete scam, are they all thick? When we will ever have a small government, low tax Conservative party? Tell me, Sir John, is there any difference between today’s conservative government & a Labour one? If there is most people can’t see it!

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      November 10, 2022

      Keith. Yes agree. I couldn’t give a stuff who gets in. Both parties are the same and spout the same rubbish. I will only be interested in voting if Farage gets back into politics. Trouble is in a non democratic country such as ours is now other parties don’t get a look in.

      1. a-tracy
        November 11, 2022

        FuS, hmm other parties, if alternative parties concentrated on a single region i.e. as the SNP did, they could get in as the SNP took over Scotland. They have 44 seats from 45% of the Scottish electorate (75% of the seat share). They decimated Labour, who now only have 1 MP.

        Not so long ago, in 1997, Labour had 56 out of 72 seats they wiped out the Scottish conservatives that year. The SNP only took 6.

        Now since 2019, the party order is 44 SNP MPs, 6 Scottish Conservatives, 4 Lib Dems, 1 Lab. out of 59

  52. Phillip Lawrence
    November 10, 2022

    Hi John,
    We are newly arrived from Caroline Dinenage’s patch in Gosport. In fact returning to your area after 15 years.
    This is a long list of questions that are being echoed all over social media, one gets the impression that the SPADS are not reading this input and not passing it on to their ministerial ’employers’.

  53. A Paul
    November 10, 2022

    My point would be: Why hotels? (Often quite expensive ones.) Why not generally cheaper B & Bs? Even better, build custom accommodation fit-for-purpose in each major city

    1. Dave Andrews
      November 10, 2022

      Some prefabs on up till now uninhabited Scottish Islands? Only no heating – make it clear what a cold place the UK is in Winter with the net zero agenda.

      1. Mark B
        November 10, 2022

        +1

        This is it. No need for Rwanda or anywhere else. Just send them to remote Scottish Islands where they cannot absconded. A good old North Atlantic / Scottish winter or two will soon make the pine for home.

    2. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      Why allow them into the UK in the first place? Anyone found in the UK without proper documentation should be deported, and I don’t particularly care where!

      1. Fedupsoutherner
        November 10, 2022

        Shirley. I’m with you on that.

    3. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      Why not military barracks

    4. a-tracy
      November 11, 2022

      A Paul, when my son went to university, he lived in a university block, it was sparse but functional, there was a sink in each room, shared showers, toilets and bathrooms, a shared kitchen on each floor. How much did they cost to build? They charged quite a lot for a very basic single room though, I think it was Ā£500 per month.

      Where would you build them? One in every area that doesn’t have 15% social housing in their township?

  54. bob
    November 10, 2022

    Its the EU not taking its responsibilities for it own failure to deal with the problem in the first place . These poor souls who are dying trying to cross the channel need to be stopped and the only place that can be done is at the EU boarders on the English Channel. A tongue in cheek suggestion back charge the EU Ā£10,000 a day for every illegal here who have entered via boat across the channel and deduct it from money we pay into the EU. The only thing the EU loves more than its self is money hard cash which might make it sit up and take ownership of its obligations to protect the people.

    1. Original Richard
      November 10, 2022

      bob :

      Whilst I do not agree with you that those crossing the Channel are either “dying” or are “poor souls”, but rather criminals who have willingly paid people smugglers to get them into the UK, I do like your idea of fining the EU for each illegal immigrant.

      Except I would make it Ā£1m/illegal immigrant, which is still feasible as we’re still paying Ā£billions to the EU.

      1. glen cullen
        November 10, 2022

        +1

    2. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      I’d prefer to withdraw fishing licences. That way, the French public would be rioting! The French government could conceal the cost from their electorate, but not the lack of fishing licences.

    3. beresford
      November 10, 2022

      No. The solution isn’t some sort of wide game on the European coast between police and putative migrants. The answer is not to give the migrants what they want, so that the crossing itself becomes not worthwhile.

  55. a-tracy
    November 10, 2022

    We had Javid from April 2018 to July 2019, Patel from July 2019 to Sep 2022.
    Why don’t you invite them here onto your blog to explain to us what the heck was happening under their watch.

    in 2020 there were 8404 doing this crossing.
    in 2021 there were 28,526
    in 2022 so far Oct. 39.430

    9 in 10 are young males
    75% age 18-39

    76% of claims are granted in the UK compared to 34% in the EU. 52% of Albanians get granted in the UK, 8% in France.

    1 in 6 people now living in England and Wales were born outside the UK.

    8% are moved up to Scotland, which has a decreasing population so they could take more and indeed welcome greater numbers.

    All the supporters of more immigration, let’s get their home postcodes registered and make sure they get their share to make sure they’re not virtue signalling with their children in those schools not affected like other schools in poor areas already with classes with high numbers. To see how they feel walking down their street with high number of lone males with nothing to do hanging around.

    1. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      Our horizon is changing before our every eyes ā€¦this green & pleasant land

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 11, 2022

        Do you really mean that country where sewage legally gets poured into rivers when it rains? Where fields have these monster metal flailing arms reaching for the sky? Where the delightful, peaceful havens for wildlife and walkers get chainsawed down and dug up for tiled boxes? Where so many cars are so essential for work, schools, surgeries, shopping, families that roads get blocked and the occupants taxed to move or park? Where taxes are invented to levy almost to the point of charging for breathing? Where we must fund and provide for endless thousands of strangers arriving daily who have no need to work, but insist on living standards our young families and most elderly can only dream of?
        Well I have no idea of where you refer to !

  56. ignoramus
    November 10, 2022

    Am I wrong on this, but didn’t being part of the EU allow us to send people straight back to the country they arrived in?

    Whereas now, so far as I can see, France has every incentive to reduce its migrant crisis by shipping them over.

    Besides, we voted for this. Same reason we voted for low growth. Everyone went in with their eyes wide open.

    Yes I voted remain. No, I do not want another vote until the scheduled date of 2055. But I do want some kind of target and realistic plan on Brexit until then. Something constructive. Just blaming the EU for all our problems is not going to get us anywhere.

    1. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      I suspect you talk of the Dublin Agreement, which was a complete failure. I may be wrong, but most EU countries ignored it anyway. I am sure I read that one EU country was ‘punished’ for trying to apply it when sending illegals back to Greece. Just a sop to remainers trying to make the EU look good, but the opposite applies. A complete mess, courtesy of the EU.

    2. Dave Andrews
      November 10, 2022

      It’s not enough to vote Brexit, you also have to vote in Brexit MPs. They (the majority Remain MPs) should have voted to overturn the referendum result rather than carry on a pretence they could run a country.

    3. mancunius
      November 10, 2022

      No, being in the EU did not allow us to send people straight back to the EU country of entry under the Dublin Agreement. The ECJ and ECHR (hence the UK courts) constantly found in favour of asylum seekers, and even the most obviously bogus illegal entrants had the legal right to declare themselves as refugees seeking asylum.
      Dublin broke down completely in 2015 when Germany breached its EU obligations wholesale, by opening its borders to every illegal entrant and allowing millions of migrants to pass into other EU countries.
      France under Sarkozy and Hollande also breached the Dublin Agreement by encouraging their unwanted migrants to travel to Calais and attempt to cross the Channel.
      This was all well-known in 2016 – and yet you voted Remain? Clearly, you were lied to by the europhile propagandists.

    4. Michelle
      November 10, 2022

      This has got nothing to do with EU (and that’s coming from someone who voted Leave, pro Europe anti-EU) and certainly has nothing to do with Brexit.
      In fact it proves the establishment had no intention of honouring the basic principles of Leave, one being to control the borders.
      These illegals were coming in even while we were in EU and were not returned.
      The establishment do not want them returned it really is that simple.
      We’ve seen other countries in and out of EU deal effectively with this issue, it can be done but the will of the ruling establishment is not there to do it.
      So here we stand.

    5. Mark B
      November 10, 2022

      The problem started when the U.S. the U.K. and France deposed Gaddafi of Libya. The Auntie Merkel invited them all to Europe to live – And they came. The German’s went berserk and wanted them out and tried to get everyone else to take ‘their fair share’ of illegals, even though others did not invite them in. The likes of Poland and Hungary refuse to accept any, both physically forcing them back, and France will give them nothing even if they apply for asylum. So for many the best place is the U.K.

      And they ain’t wrong.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 11, 2022

        so why are Albanians flooding here?

  57. Jon Marcus
    November 10, 2022

    Sir John – the Conservatives will lose the next election because of failing to deal with illegal immigration and for tax rises. We still do not control our borders, have not left the ECHR, part of Britain is still governed by Brussels, we have not got back our fishing grounds. When is Brexit going to happen?

    1. Shirley M
      November 10, 2022

      It won’t. Brexit will never happen, not while the main parties work together (and in their OWN interests) to defeat the electorate. Our politicians are working hard to avoid/destroy democracy for that very purpose!

      1. Mark B
        November 10, 2022

        Exactly. look how the Tory MP’s conspired to get rid of the memberships choice of PM, Liz Truss MP.

    2. glen cullen
      November 10, 2022

      I wish our government would just try and send ‘one’ back to France and see what happens …whats the worst that could happen, the French say ‘no’ ….at least we now where we stand and could stop sending them money

  58. Mickey Taking
    November 10, 2022

    Sir John – let me guess? You didn’t get one response that assured you of imminent action that would resolve the point you were making, and on behalf of millions of UK citizens?

  59. Francesca Skinner
    November 10, 2022

    I find it incredible that they don’t concentrate on the source of supply, surely they know where these boats and meters are being sold and stored. You have to wonder if there is any will to stop this invasion especially with the Civil Service.

    Francesca Skinner

  60. Original Richard
    November 10, 2022

    Perhaps the PM’s plan to reduce immigration, illegal or legal, is to make the UK less attractive?

    Perhaps by ensuring that we are completely broke and running an expensive and intermittent energy system dependent upon China to deliver spare parts for the broken down turbines and solar panels when we have made the next payment?

  61. Original Richard
    November 10, 2022

    “Yesterday I joined a call with the Head of Border Force to discuss the extensive use of hotel accommodation and the large numbers of asylum seekers and economic migrants crossing the Channel. I raised various issues in this call and with Ministers” :

    So what answers did they give please to your questions?

  62. mancunius
    November 10, 2022

    John, you don’t say how the Head of Border Force replied to your questions.
    Did he perhaps explain that due to the insouciance of Parliament, the government, the country and indeed Parliament itself is enmeshed and imprisoned within a raft of agreements and laws (HRA, Modern Slavery Act, Migration Compact etc etc) entered into with hairraising legal negligence?
    Did he also point out that since the early 1990s governments have mutely connived, year on year, in the steady left-wing, europhile infiltration of the judiciary – some of whose senior members do not even reside in the UK?
    Did he mention that since the early 1950s Conservative politicians and powerful business donors to the Conservative Party have been enthusiastic in ushering in unskilled economic migrants – the latter for profit, the former as they are targeting international GDP stats, ignoring the growing impoverishment of individual GDP per head?
    Did he shyly aver that as you’ve made your beds, so must you lie?
    Did he

    Reply No, none of the above

  63. Kayla Tomlinson
    November 10, 2022

    Dear Sir John,
    Once again I agree with you on every point you raised about the migrant crisis. I would like to know if any of your questions were answered and what answers you were given. The whole migrant issue is beyond a joke! The vast majority are economic migrants, not asylum seekers fleeing danger. They should not be here and and we should not have to pay for them. We have enough problems with paying for the NHS, schools, road, etc.
    Sincerely yours
    Kayla Tomlinson
    16 Commons Road, Wokingham, Berks RG41 1JG

    Reply The govt says it is reviewing law change. it needs to get on with it. They are stepping up recruiting and training staff and setting targets to process more applications more quickly.

    1. Mark B
      November 10, 2022

      ” . . . reviewing . . . ”

      Code for doing nothing.

      ” . . . process more applications . . . ”

      These people are illegals. They have broken the law. The only processing needed is through the criminal courts followed by deportation.

    2. Original Richard
      November 10, 2022

      Reply to Reply :

      Will “processing more applications more quickly” be a euphemism for just letting more people in more quickly even when they don’t have any reason to be accepted as an asylum seeker?

      Just to reduce the numbers awaiting a decision to be made?

      I no longer have any trust in Government, Parliament, Civil Service, the judiciary, our quangos and institutions or even the police and armed services.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 11, 2022

        Your last sentence says it all – we are beginning down the long and winding road that leads from safety, justice and respect for all people, to a lawless, connections-run society with aimless damage, violence and destruction on the streets. Welcome to 1984 but in 2040 or therebouts.

  64. Gareth Warren
    November 10, 2022

    While the EU is inefficient it is not justified to claim asylum from it, neither are there any wars going on in Ireland or France.

    Therefore all asylum applications should be automatically rejected.

    I’d rather give temporary housing and aid for a few months to people in genuine need in Ukraine then see it wasted on economic migrants.

  65. Lindsay McDougall
    November 10, 2022

    There is a solution to our problems. Below is text from a 7 page note I e-mailed to you. Occasionally, it is not enough to express your views in a blog. It is necessary to start a rebellion in parliament. Considering how he came to office and the extra State debt he saddled us with as Chancellor, none of us on the Right of the Tory Party owe Rishi Sunak any loyalty.

    Reducing the cost of immigration

    We need to stop pussyfooting around. Illegal immigrants landing without passports should be interred on an Outer Hebridean island, preferably uninhabited. They would be provided with tents, ground sheets, sleeping bags, a basic diet and cooking equipment, plus shovels to dig trenches for latrines. They would be denied legal aid. There they would rot until they told our authorities where they came from ā€“ and I donā€™t mean France.

    All other illegal immigrants should be denied legal aid and tagged. None of them should be given permanent resident status. That goes for both refugees and economic migrants. Payments for accommodation to be loans, not grants. Refugees would be expected to return home once they were no longer in danger. Economic migrants would be expected to return home immediately. Denial of legal aid would destroy the living of lefty lawyers (good; it would be nice to see Cherie Blair suffer). It would also return power of decision to the UK Home Office, where it belongs. We should no longer defer to the ECHR.

    Legal immigration to the UK would mainly be determined by UK officials in foreign countries and would be severely limited. The norm would be one year permits, renewable annually. Five year permits could be issued to would be undergraduates, for a three year degree and two years work experience.

    We should not do trade deals with countries that demand the issuing of visas in exchange for low or zero tariffs.

    reply I have raised these issues in Parliament !

    1. Michelle
      November 11, 2022

      Excellent proposals Lindsay McDougall and one many other countries use without fear of being labelled ‘racist’ or other such nonsense.

  66. SecretPeople
    November 10, 2022

    Thank you for trying, Sir John. You’re one of the last true and stalwart few.

  67. beresford
    November 10, 2022

    Obviously there is not an infinite supply of hotel accommodation or the money to pay for it. At some point (assuming they cannot allow enough to abscond) the politicians will have to announce an amnesty as in the Irish Republic. They will dress this up as beneficial to the ‘economy’, but it will be the point at which Britain passes into history along with Carthage and Prussia.

  68. Iain Gill
    November 10, 2022

    I note the new Italian government and PM are refusing to let immigrant boats dock or into their waters. Told France firmly its their problem. Why can we not do the same?

    1. Mickey Taking
      November 11, 2022

      The EU!

    2. glen cullen
      November 11, 2022

      Our gutless MPs

  69. Dave
    November 11, 2022

    I have heard it claimed that negotiations to leave the EU did not specify in enough detail that economic migrants or asylum seekers could be sent back to safe EU countries from which they came, including most of E and SE Europe. I am sorry but I have not the time to check the facts further, and with asylum seekers there may be legal restrictions on sending them back, even to a safe country. But maybe JR’s staff could do this.

    David Davis MP also made some comments on Albanian economic migrants that sounded sensible. It seems a terrible mess. I am even more appalled at Starmer’s proposal to bring back Blair’s compulsory ID card proposal, with ‘illegal immigration’ as the excuse.

  70. Lorraine
    November 13, 2022

    Circo are asking private landlords to home channel migrants with rent, council tax and utility bills paid for them for five years, while our elderly can barely heat and eat on a meagre state pension, while our homeless, including veterans, remain on the streets, while those with dementia are stripped of their homes to pay for their care, while our kids cant afford to rent or buy and wouldnt get this hand-out if they made themselves homeless, as the Channel migrants (especially if Albanian) have by coming here, and while private rentals and rentals in the social sector are in short supply for British families! Facilitating and funding this invasion with taxpayer money through Circo is disgraceful. I hope private landlords reject this offer and that we reject politicians that dont have our best interests at heart in future elections!

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