I am quite happy for any of my emails, texts and other messages received by Ministers and the NHS during covid to be considered and published as part of the covid enquiry if that helps and results from their release by the Ministers and officials who lie at the heart of this consideration.
I would like the Enquiry to consider the issues I raised at the time, which are also recorded on this website and available by using Search.
Air purification in hospitals and care homes
I raised the issue of using powerful UV air cleaners to kill the virus in circulating air within the ducts, and recommended checking and adapting air flows where necessary to greatly reduce the chances of passing on the virus through stale or infected circulating air. Whilst there seemed to be some agreement this could be done it did not seem to get the priority it deserved. It was a an obvious thing to do in hospitals and care homes, and in restaurants, hotels etc.
Isolation hospitals and wards
I suggested demarking some hospitals as isolation hospitals for covid and keeping some others open for other conditions to limit the build up of backlogs of other medical problems. I argued for continuing use of the Nightingale hospitals for covid to relieve pressure on beds elsewhere. Instead the Nightingales were little used and quickly shut down. There were some moves to create different entrances and to segregate covid areas from other areas in some hospitals. I was a voice with others for the establishment of the Nightingales which did take place.
Discharge of patients from hospitals to care homes
I was one of the early callers to ensure people were not sent back to care homes until there was reasonable certainty they were no longer infectious.
Alleviating drugs
I argued for more and faster testing of existing drugs that might have beneficial effects in treating covid symptoms. There seemed to be reluctance and delay in doing this, though some drugs were subsequently found to be helpful.
Duration and intensity of lockdowns
I worked with the group of Conservative MPs that argued against the intensity and long duration of lockdowns, and voted accordingly. We successfully opposed a final extra lockdown period, and note that Wales which locked down harder and for longer ended up with a higher death rate than England.
Use of statistics
I raised issues about the quality and reliability of the data, and the changes made to presentations of the statistics. I was particularly critical of the UK concept of a covid death, which included death with covid as well as death from covid. I was concerned about the reliability of evidence from test and trace programmes.
June 7, 2023
Neither the government’s lawyers nor Rishi Sunak (unlike Boris Johnson) have an appropriate sense of perspective – the sheer number of deaths, even apart from the economic cost, make Covid 19 the most devastating event to have hit Britain in the 75 years since the Second World War. Therefore petty considerations or embarrassment are not good reasons to withhold from the enquiry information the official enquiry wishes to see. Nor is there any realistic chance that the High Court will uphold the government’s view in legal proceedings on this against a former High Court Judge. So Rishi Sunak is wrong both on theoretical moral grounds and on practical legal grounds and indeed won’t get the sympathy of the electorate on this. Yet again he is showing he simply isn’t up to the job of being Prime Minister and needs to be replaced now by some other Conservative far more up to being Prime Minister.
June 7, 2023
No Geoffrey, the lockdowns were the most devastating event to have hit Britain since the Second World War. The economy, education, normal healthcare, family and social life, all were disrupted to an extent that was unprecedented and must never be repeated. ‘Covid deaths’ were a statistical fiction, which as Sir John pointed out in a May 2020 HoC debate, relied on bundling together deaths caused by the virus and deaths occurring where there were other serious health conditions. When the latter are taken out, mortality from Covid 19 was comparable to moderately bad seasonal flu, as in 2015 and 2017-2018. Yet the government and the public health authorities continued for the best part of two years to use the fraudulent ‘Covid death’ concept to force compliance with their wrecking-ball policies.
June 7, 2023
“The sheer number of deaths” – hmmmm manipulated statistics.
June 7, 2023
The Covid deaths are hugely exaggerated by the death within 28 days recording rule. How many people died with 28 days of having Athletes Foot or a high blood pressure reading?
Prob. Covid deaths exaggerated by circa 4+ times. Even then many covid deaths where Covid was even a âfactorâ in the death (of fairly ill people anyway) merely dies a few weeks or months earlier than they would have died. Average age of covid deaths were circa 83.
The real scandal (& totally avoidable) is deaths of and heart & other injury to younger people and children caused by the not very âsave or effectiveâ vaccines and the net harm lockdowns. We do not even yet know longer term damage, fertility harms⊠excess deaths all cause still running at 140 a day in the UK. So why if not the vaccine or NHS delays?
June 7, 2023
If the inquiry is honest and competent it should conclude:- The Gov and their experts got everything wrong – vaccines, lockdowns, test and trace…and virt. nothing right.
June 8, 2023
Certainly in the early stages of the pandemic there was considerable evidence of deaths caused by shutting down the NHS so heart attacks and strokes etc. went untreated. Delays to cancer treatment have added to the subsequent toll. The recent strikes in the NHS have also been a factor. I think we are also seeing the effects of LTNs on ambulance response times echoed in more deaths.
June 7, 2023
But the Covid deaths were hugely exaggerated by the within 28 days rule. Most were either unrelated to Covid or just slighty brought forward by it. The real damage was done by “vaccines” and the lockdowns.
June 7, 2023
Quite. Without those two ‘mistakes’ it would have been mostly over by the end of 2020. Vallance said something to this effect in about March 2020 and gave figures.
We now have a ‘cost-of-lockdown’ crisis and needless problems. Whereas UK inflation is over 10%, Swiss inflation is about 2.6%. Very close to the Bank of England ‘target’, but in the ‘wrong’ country.
Sweden didn’t lock down. Nor it seems did Japan. Both were said to have clauses in their constitution to prohibit the government from locking innocent or in this case healthy people up (Don’t all democracies, especially common law countries like England and Wales, have that at the heart of their legal system?)
June 9, 2023
No one seems to consider the millions who having contracted Covid are still dealing with debilitating long term conditions in silence
Isolation or lockdown can be looked at in a different light if the effect of contracting even mild forms of the disease are considered
June 10, 2023
I’m sorry for those people. If they don’t already they should consider taking enough vitamin D, eating a healthy diet (not 50% ultra-processed food) and taking exercise.
I do the above. I think I ‘contracted a mild form of the disease’ in April 2022. I may have coughed 5-10 times in four days and I could just detect a mildly sore throat.
NHS advice on how to stay healthy is so poor that it doesn’t even tell us how much vitamin D we’re likely to need to give a well-functioning immune system: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-d/
People who want better guidance should perhaps follow the blog of this retired NHS consultant: http://www.drdavidgrimes.com.
June 7, 2023
Yes it’s a daft attitude because now we know he’s hiding something. So childish and immature, just as the other court case in the news and again on some TV morning programme I think. We have children and more to the point idiot children of the establishment all around us.
Mature and important issues such has our host raised seem to be subsumed to issues raised by man-children (and it’s mainly males with women falling in alongside).
June 7, 2023
And it seems that the flu was around in 2020 and that all Flu deaths were just added on to the “covid” toll to keep us having “the pants scared off us”. The official data is full of anomalies according to Professors Fenton and Reid and many others. My own cardiologist told me that there was “no such thing as a safe vaccine” and that there were risks from having it and risks from not having it and that I should decide whether the MRNA goes into my body or not. The Pharma companies insisted at the start that they should be indemnified from any come back should their products make people ill or worse. Who would buy a household appliance when the manufacturers want nothing to do with it when it goes wrong? Yet we’re expected to put an untested substance into our bodies under the same circumstances.
June 8, 2023
They expected us to believe there was no flu that year. Rubbish.
June 7, 2023
Good morning.
Yes, Sir John we remember much of what you wrote and said. But it didn’t do any good did it ? And neither will any enquiry.
It was predicted by someone a little while ago that when the truth started to come out everyone will begin to distance themselves from what went on and any part they played in it. And he was right !
I have only a passing interest in what went on during the SCAMDEMIC, but have a growing interest in the consequences of it. The medication that was used and its effects. The problems dealing with other health issues that could have been prevented had the NHS functioned as it was supposed to do. The societal problems, mental, social, economic and educational.
We all here could write pages on this, but I know your precious. But it is to the future we must look and I do not believe that it serves us well to dwell on the past.
June 7, 2023
Yes Mark, I agree! we are broke! Vast amounts of money were wasted, Sunak should have been sacked, NOT given the job of PM.
But we do not need the vast amount wasted now, stop this useless inquiry as it is only wasting more.
Same with that fool Cleverly! He is still throwing our money down the drain, giving it to the comedian of Kiev!
Just where do we find these useless people?
June 7, 2023
I agree. We must prepare to fight the next affront to our liberties rather than dwell on the past. The WEF have set everything down in writing that they intend to inflict upon us. We must stop their plans well before they managed to impose them. The most urgent is their plan to cull our cattle. We face a future of food storages if they achieve this then their planned food hubs will be imposed to ration supplies and control the human population. People need to wake up to what’s happening and vote out the main political parties before their insane Net Zero plans cause irrevocable damage.
June 7, 2023
+1. Your last para in particular. These inquiries are used to distract attention from what is coming.
A few days ago the WHO agreed to persuade its members to use the EU green pass as the model “health” certificate. According to the WHO press release, âone of the key elements in the European Unionâs work against the COVID-19 pandemic has been digital COVID-19 certificatesâ, and now the WHO will âallow the world to benefit from convergence of digital certificatesâ.
Thierry Breton, EU Commissioner for Internal Market, said:” The EU certificate has not only been an important tool in our fight against the pandemic, but has also facilitated international travel and tourism.” (source, The Daily Sceptic)
Which means that more restrictions on our freedoms are coming. This enquiry is at best a distraction from pushing back against future threats like this. At worst, it will be used to welcome the erosion of our liberty.
June 8, 2023
Wanderer: W H O – Seems the UK gave $ 135million in 2021, rising to $169million in 2022. Interesting article today (plus other links ) 08/6 re the W H O which raises many, many questions and facts which I suspect the majority has little idea about what is going on and what could be in store ( Source Conservative Woman ) Hats off to those organisations and individuals, including some of our own MPs I believe, keeping tabs on this and raising their voices on our behalf.
June 8, 2023
Are you suggesting that it would have made no difference if JR had NOT written as he did? You donât believe is learning from the past? Thatâs the only way we can learn – from past mistakes.
What a baffling post!
June 7, 2023
May I say that I agree with your tweet that when the Govt and opposition are in agreement on a very serious issue, there should be a referendum of the people, for instance on the net zero issue and also on any future lockdown.
It is not acceptable to pass the power up to an NGO, like WHO, to impose a single issue decision from on high.
No referendum question should have a yes/no answer (as established in the Brexit Referendum) but both sides of any referendum need to be funded equally and if any side cheats, by spending a huge amount before the commencement of a referendum campaign, as the Government/EU/Corporate side did prior to the Brexit Referendum, that side of the argument MUST be banned from campaigning throughout the campaigning period. In this knowledge we stand a chance of cleaning up the process until it is trusted by the people. The day the voters donât trust the result of a count or campaign, we have lost the foundation under our gentle and considerate and fair society. Watch the USA for proof.
June 7, 2023
History suggests that when the major parties agree they are almost invariably wrong. The ERM, staying in the EU and the various mad teaties, the EURO, Millenium dome, HS2, climate change act, renewable subsidies, loans for diff degrees, open door migration with no quality controls, net zero, the Windsor disaster, high tax levels, over regulation the NHS system…
June 8, 2023
Exactly. And the few voices on each side who disagree are crushed or ignored. Thatâs why this blog of JRâs is so important. Surely we need to prioritise the advice of people who have been proved right on previous occasions? If we refuse to act in this rational, tried and tested way, and back unicorns instead, we deserve all we get.
This blog is a record of JRâs correct, unbiased and rational analysis and the consequent advised actions to avoid or repair massive problems.
And our comments on each issue – we are the equivalent of a Conservative Association, which used to give honest feedback to its MP. He judges whether our feedback and advice is right or wrong, and acts accordingly.
My priority is to avoid WWIII. I donât think JR is in agreement, but I will continue to give my opinion as I am following this Ukrainian disaster minutely. I hope to win him over because JR, and all sentient people, can be won over by facts.
A huge tank battle last night (Wednesday) and in the early hours in Zaporozhye. If the reports of the scale of armour and men deployed and engaged in combat are correct, then this is the largest tank battle since since Operation Hoveyzeh in 1981.
It is sobering that thousands are probably dead, dying or wounded right now. The Russians have control of the air and are well dug in. They report destroying lines and lines of armoured divisions. At least one Ukrainian division refused to attack (reported from communications intercepts). Ukraine is shooting and attacking its own deserters, Russia reports that both sides have brought up reinforcements. Letâs hope to relieve those on the front line heavily engaged for hours rather than to replace the dead. The actual line of combat has not moved.
What the West has done to Ukraine and Ukrainians is beyond cruel. Ukrainians voted for Zelensky because he stood on a platform of âpeace with Russiaâ. Some peace! Over 280,000 Ukrainian troops dead in the war so far as reported by Col Douglas McGregor of the USA, calculated from open sources. God knows how many maimed. All for nothing! Perfectly good peace agreements were available.
June 9, 2023
Are you telling us that Ukrainians attacked Russia on 24 February 2022?
June 7, 2023
Absolutely agree.
The Covid saga was a scamdemic with ongoing mental and physical health problems for many as well as the absolute destruction and hollowing out of the economy through the loss of so many small businesses and pubs. We must never lockdown again. We must certainly not hand over total control to the WHO, which is an external, international, ineffective and corrupt, China and billionaire controlled agency.
You are also right to put the Climate Scam and Net Zero in the same bag. This too is controlled by corrupt international bureaucracies many under the UN. Environmentalism is also an evil communist dictatorship taking over the west. The climate data is cooked, the messaging is also false on extreme weather etc. This country and every other will go down the sink hole in energy terms, manufacturing & agriculture terms hence economically and politically too. We must not lose our freedoms and our money to these snake oil salesmen and would be despotic tyrants.
June 7, 2023
Very good tweet from John Redwood – I fully agree there should be a Referendum on the costs and regulatory changes proposed concerning net zero.
June 7, 2023
Agreed. But the WEF won’t allow it, or the EU. Instead, the Not-a-Conservative-Party and Labour will offer different policies/speeds to deliver Net Zero and claim that that represents a choice. As they have done with every CONsensus issue for decades.
This country is not a democracy.
June 7, 2023
Correct a vote every five years for the least bad option of two or three possibles, who will not do what they promised anyway gives virtually zero real democracy.
June 7, 2023
Agreed, Geoffrey. After the Covid lockdowns we can have no confidence that the government is doing the right thing on any major issue like NZ.
June 7, 2023
I second that ! Clough
June 7, 2023
Or on-line harm.
June 7, 2023
A people’s vote on net zero would be very interesting (and is imperative to save us from the political class).
The red wall would decide it again.
June 8, 2023
And motorists! Anybody who wants to keep warm and eat! Iâm not sure many comprehend what is being asked of them.
June 7, 2023
Did we ever have confidence. Also a referendum on the current Sunak moves to allign with the EU, the Widsor knot disaster, the absurdly high tax levels, 20mph speed limits, heatpumps, EVs, all the woke lunacy, the schools as woke indoctrination units, the dire NHS market rigging, the war on motorists…
June 7, 2023
Did I hear someone say lunacy ….how about HS2
June 7, 2023
+1
June 7, 2023
I donât do tweets, I consider the media a tool for politicians and journalists, but Iâve just read SirJs, well Iâm more than impressed and surprised he hasnât had the whip removed
June 8, 2023
Do tweets now – musk is turning out to be a titan! And on our side!
June 9, 2023
Oh yes, Is Shoshana Zuboff (âThe Age of Surveillance Capitalismâ) obviously wrong?
And what is the side âweâ are supposed to be?
June 8, 2023
I agree with you Glen, i dont do social media, twitter, farsebook etc are designed to just stop the plebs !
June 9, 2023
MFD: I donât know about âstopping the plebsâ, but certainly designed to collect a maximum of data on individualsâ behaviour to be sold to the best commercial/political bidder.
The wonderful (hilariousâąïž) thing here is that those encouraging us to âtweetâ might be the same defending privacy against an all-powerful state.
June 8, 2023
Would we see honest costings? I have yet to any signs of that from government and its quangos. More likely we will see the Dowden information suppression unit in full flow.
June 7, 2023
One of the biggest flaws at the start of the outbreak was the virus started in Wuhan China and was deemed to be very infectious but for weeks on end flights were still transporting people to and from there to the UK.
The panic then set in and we ended up with lockdown, but if we had shut down flights and travelling into the UK it may have bought more time to fully research what was the potential risk to the country and the population in general.
June 7, 2023
Agree – there were even flights arriving from northern Italy.
June 7, 2023
Ever since AIDS, public health control as practised in the fifties has been deemed a nasty, racist, homophobic thing to do. One obvious thing to have done was to seal our Southern sea border, thus killing two birds with one stone, but it wasn’t even discussed as far as I know.
June 7, 2023
In point of fact, a government statement in March 2020 said Covid was *not* a high consequence infectious disease.
âAs of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.
The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak.â
Note this was in March 2020. Right at the beginning of all this nonsense.
June 7, 2023
Obviously you do not know the criteria used to define a HCID. In January 2020, Covid-19 was an unknown in the UK and for what was known from China Covid-19 had characteristics potentially making it a HCID. When by mid-March 2020 more was known of Covid-19 (both its genetic signature, some estimation of its infection rate, and the potential of a working rapid test) PHE moved it from a HCID to a serious public health emergency.
It is your absolute right to consider this new definition a nonsense, unfortunately several thousands of people died from such a ânonsensical infectionâ.
June 8, 2023
It was NOT unknown, else they would not have banned the known antidote, after 40 years of being freely available, for no started reason – Ivermectin.
When Boris was ill, Trump flew some in for him!
I had to smuggle mine in!
June 9, 2023
06/03/2023 covid19treatment.guidelines.nih.gov
âThe panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of Covid-19â.
Ivermectin has only ever been popular among people like you âŠ
07/04/2020 âDonald Trumpâs drugs âto help Boris Johnsonâ not tested against coronavirusâ
Dear Lynn, what DJT had sent was not ivermectin but remdesivir ⊠and it was not used as while at Guyâs and St Thomasâ ICU ventilation seems to have been enough to make BJ better.
So if you donât agree with that, give your references so that everybody can check.
June 8, 2023
I believe Barbara’s point is that in March 2020 Covid was downgraded to the same level as an influenza epidemic. The government already had in place a planned response to a bad flu epidemic, prepared the previous year. It gave it up under intense international, media and industry pressure, and chose to go down the lockdown road. We have seen what that led to, and are now rueing the consequences. This must never happen again, and we must retain our freedom as a country to act independently on public health matters.
June 7, 2023
That is entirely right, and if you remember, people coming back from infected Italy following the February half-term caused a lot of the initial transmission. Italy knew the virus was running rampant before that break; they didn’t want to close down until afterwards, or it would have affected their tourism when they thought a fortnight’s circuit break would stop the spread. I watched a tv show from Italy at the time where people were dying in their homes, unable to get treatment.
June 7, 2023
As covid 19spreads by aerosol, it’s sensible to prevent inhalation in infected areas,which is why masks are worn.An added measure would surely be a reverse pressure system which by a simple antiseptic would eradicate such pathogens before putting out the cleansed circulating air.
Isolation hospitals were plentiful in the 19th century, mainly due to the prevalence of TB.An application for COVID would be an advantage.
Hospital beds and delayed discharges have not been pushed by management for decades due to the pressure of availablity for new patients.We had many small hospitals , only 20 years ago which were under new systems rationalised into larger more central buildings.This was never a good Idea and has caused chaos in many areas of emergency and long term care.
June 7, 2023
Except the virus goes straight through the paper masks and people will catch it anyway sooner or later!
June 8, 2023
No the virus does not go straight through virus masks.Under pressure,40 percent can pass through but with normal air circulation and people moving around an area, masks have proved effective.
June 7, 2023
Funny you should mention TB, only one of my three children had the TB vaccination the gov stopped them before the two youngest were eligible. Now there are about 1000 per quarter, I worry about them not having the vaccine, one living in London.
June 8, 2023
Yes, certain infants are now eligible,but now not widely vaccinated.
June 7, 2023
Take notice though, a lot of people are now suffering from micro plastic in their lungs from wearing those blue hospital masks, people were going to suffer either way. Though I believe the micro plastics on their lung was worse than a bit of flue!
June 8, 2023
The reverse protein spike in messenger ribonucleic acid has been reported and is cause for concern in the long run, particularly as we began to witness evolving strains of COVID.Iwould again
put forward to those who question the validity of use of the vaccine how they would approach any preventive measures.Would they see the virus gain momentum as the human defense mechanisms did not recognise SARS with the protein spike and to actually get antibody production an infection is necessary? Herd immunity means less survivors.
June 7, 2023
Your points as below are all good points.
Isolation hospitals and wards
Discharge of patients from hospitals to care homes
Patients not sent back to care homes until there was reasonable certainty they were no longer infectious.
Use and trials of alleviating drugs
Duration and intensity of the counterproductive lockdowns
Use of statistics (died within 28 days of Covid rather than from Covid)
But the real surely criminal negligence was the net harm vaccine roll out. In the week ending 26 May 2023 (Week 21) 11,111 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 10.1% above the five-year average (1,021 more deaths) this from the ONS.
It should of course, after a period long period of high deaths, usually be lower than average so 140 a day rather understates this serious issue. Many of these excess deaths are in young people too – taking years of quality life unlike the Covid deaths. Mainly from cardio vascular, blood clots and liver issues it seems.
June 7, 2023
Alas as usual JR ministers ignored your sensible points.
June 7, 2023
Their aim was to vaccinate everyone so there was no comparative group (unvaccinated). Even those dying within 2 weeks of immunisation were classed as unvaccinated.
June 7, 2023
The start of the rise in cardio vascular deaths and myocarditis coincides with the vaccine rollout and continuation of the boosters. The only government has ceased to publish records of the vaccination status of the people who are dying from these conditions. Why?
June 7, 2023
Still can’t get my head around the deaths within 28 days of having Covid being put down as a Covid number. We are told that after 10 days you are not infectious. Indeed why would you be out and about if you still had Covid and yet even if you’d been in a traffic accident you were counted as a Covid death. I firmly believe that this tactic and showing people on ventilators was used to scare the public. One big con. The trouble with conning people is they are less likely to comply the next time. No more vaccines for myself and my husband and many more people we know.
June 7, 2023
Surely this means an over count by a factor of at circa 4. Even the deaths where Covid was a sig, factor it is likely to only have advanced this death by a few days or weeks in many cases. Average age of Covid death was over 80. Unlike the many vaccine caused deaths and injuries alas which have killed many young and healthy people.
June 7, 2023
When you have been in an area where your colleagues of all ages were dying all around you from COVID.Just think if it was your relatives.It is callous to view deaths as percentages and effort by scientists to put out a vaccine to save lives should be commended.Many other diseases and vaccines have side effects and many of the side effects although are not desirable can be treated.
June 7, 2023
Apology.end of first sentence wasn’t printed.
June 7, 2023
So you want raw emotions over what is rational and actually works and saves lives then?
June 8, 2023
Silly reply as usual.If you want more evidence of benefits/risks in medicine, look at the British National Formulary.
June 8, 2023
Thatâs why few women should be in positions of power. Too much emotion, not enough rational thought. I can say this – being a woman.
June 9, 2023
As far as I remember Mrs Thatcher did not seem to have too much emotion or not enough rational thought.
June 7, 2023
If you can’t fight off the disease, you will still be infectious after 10 days. I agree though, if you were involved in a traffic accident that’s not a Covid death.
June 7, 2023
FUS. No more mRNA “vaccines” for me or my partner either. Being conned once is more than enough. That our government is using our money to subsidise big Pharma making mRNA products here disgusts me.
June 7, 2023
Yes, FUS, imagine if all deaths within a month of receiving the vaccine were automatically recorded as from the vaccine. I don’t know if anyone has looked at the corresponding figures.
June 7, 2023
I have now had chance to read Rowan Atkinson’s sensible article on EVs in full (in the Guardian). Very sensible it is too. Perhaps we need a comedian with an Engineering Degree in government or the Lords! Rather than the Stem-illiterates we currently have with their moronic energy, vaccine, healthcare, tax to death and other mad agendas.
June 7, 2023
An excellent weekly Sceptic Podcast just released too.
June 7, 2023
We have enough Jokers in that place, thanks. But it would be an interesting exercise to compare numbers of STEM graduates with others there.
June 7, 2023
Perhaps the suggestions made didn’t line pockets enough and satisfy the craving for power and control over us that some have.
I don’t think Starmer & Co should be allowed to appear innocent in all this either as they went along with everything and he would have liked us locked for longer I believe.
This inquiry will be another financial burden on the tax payer while others make hay no doubt, and a limp conclusion of ‘lessons learnt’.
Had those with equal or more qualification to chart a course through a flu virus been given a voice instead of being accused of spreading false information and some persecuted, then it may have been a different scenario. We may not even need to fork out on an inquiry.
June 7, 2023
+1 Michelle
That is indeed the point that emerges from the Telegraph’s recent exposure of the government’s counter-disinformation (=news control) unit. Those who were right were marginalised and silenced.
The Swedish approach was the right one, as the mortality outcomes show. Not to mention Sweden faring much better socially and economically. But government and big tech censorship did not allow people in this country to realise that at the time.
June 7, 2023
Recall the approach Sweden adopted was U.K. policy too in the very early days (one of those two scientist performers who stood in front of the flags said so explicitly). Rumour has it that Macron threatened to prevent transit between France and the U.K. unless that policy was abandoned. The enquiry would do well to look into all this.
June 7, 2023
The whole point of the Covid Inquiry is to kick it into the long grass – so it reports long after the next General Election and when the people who are responsible for suspending our Civil and Human Rights; wrecking the economy and ruining millions of lives are long gone.
Interesting typo in the last line of the first paragraph Sir John. You seem to have missed a “d” off the word lie. Because that’s what deliberate manipulation of statistics and data and presenting propaganda which is intended “to scare the pants off everyone” is: a lie.
June 7, 2023
So are we now accepting that there actually was a deadly plague?
Why are we interested in the lunatic details of the supposed response?
The fact is that we now have governments who have taken, for no good reason, powers only ever allegedly available to regimes we must not mention.
And they are actually signing us up to more of the same.
This is a diversionary mea culpa.
June 7, 2023
Iâve no doubt that there has been many pandemics over the millennium, the last in 1918, but what lessons were learnt and what lessons will be learnt from the 2020 pandemic â maybe no lockdowns
June 7, 2023
What intrigues me is the different overall death rates due to covid, as reported on international statistical sites, like worldometers dot info/coronavirus/
Death pre 1 million of the population, UK: 3303, that is about 1 in 300 people.
Netherlands: 1336, i.e. about 1 in 750 people.
How come? Over/under reporting? Different ethnic composition in the populations, different service levels? A bit of all three?
June 7, 2023
Worldometer does not report deaths ‘due to Covid’, Peter. Its current UK figure of 220,000-odd is based on government figures which report ‘deaths of people whose death certificate mentioned COVID-19 as one of the causes’. In other words, it massively over-counts by including deaths that could have been caused by other medical conditions. This has been well-known for years now.
June 7, 2023
Peter the big difference is did they die of Covid or with Covid, we chose to list those who died within 28 days of Covid a positive test, whether you had it at the time of death or not.
Not very scientific is it, many people die with pimples, but you do not put that down on a Death Certificate do you !
June 7, 2023
Peter,
How are “death by Covid” defined in the Netherlands?
The UK death within 28 days of a positive test defined as a “death by Covid” is clearly wrong…
June 7, 2023
Herring is the best source of vitamin D3 and the other Dutch eat lots of it. D3 has been shown to reduce the incidence of severe covid and other infections. The recommended dose of D3 from the NHS is very low and doctors recommend at least 30mg daily.
June 7, 2023
Omit other.
June 7, 2023
I have no faith in the “Covid Deaths” numbers reported here in UK Peter.
Anyone dying (from anything) who had tested positive for Covid within 28 days of departure was counted. You could be tested positive, walk outside and get hit by a bus and this was still counted as Covid “related”.
Anyone in a care home who tested positive was included and I know very well (from three years of weekly visits to my Mum’s care home) that people in care often pass very suddenly & unexpectedly. There was no rhyme or reason to this, we were regularly surprised when residents passed as they were often the ones that you least expected to do so – and this was all pre-Covid.
Frankly, there seemed little logic or reason in the Covid reporting system used here and I have zero confidence in any data it might have produced. So I think comparisons between countries using different metrics are pretty pointless.
June 7, 2023
Peter, some countries did not record deaths at home, only in hospital. Others gave pulmonary embolism, for example, as the cause of death, not the Wuhan Respiratory Virus. The UK seemed to go out of its way to count in deaths which were clearly not from the Wuhan Virus at all. Goldplating as usual. Another thing which happened here was that nursing homes were not obliged to call out the doctor for a Wuhan Respiratory death, so many deaths were recorded in nursing homes as from that cause, to save everyone time and trouble. But the families knew.
June 7, 2023
PS another factor to take into account, Peter, was that the previous winter some countries – like Germany and Denmark – lost a lot of people to flu, while other countries – like Sweden, the UK, and the Southern European countries – did not. Frail old people, who made up the bulk of the deathcount, can only die once.
June 7, 2023
What was the overall death rate difference between the two Countries for the year before, 2020, 2021, 2022?
Did the Netherlands report people who died ‘with’ covid in the same way the UK did? The truth will out eventually.
June 7, 2023
A lot of eminently sensible suggestions, JR.
My dentist used an air purifier, and the idea of air purification in hospitals would have made life so much easier!
In Autumn of 2020 I needed a blood test and an x-Ray⊠hospital and car park both empty. Purified air could have kept the hospitals functioning normally. It would have been money well spent!
June 7, 2023
The problem is Sharon, virus get through air filtration as they are a lot smaller than the bacteria the machines are made to filter.
In other words, useless. But it fools those who are not educated in ventilation engineering.
June 7, 2023
Most dentists now are private practises, aren’t they? They do some NHS services that they bill for per treatment, no service- no paymentâbig difference.
Do dentists get money from NHS?
The NHS pays its dentists between ÂŁ35,000 and ÂŁ70,000. Private dentists can make as much as ÂŁ130,000 and, in some cases even more.
June 7, 2023
The Nightingale hospitals quickly closed because they were virtually unused. They were unused because there were insufficient Covid cases. The expected deaths never occurred because the virus had a 99.7% survival rate. The death rate remained within the normal range for 2020 but rose with the advent of ‘vaccinations’, and still runs at about 5,500 pw! Why is this not being raised on a daily basis by MP’s and MSM?
There were existing drugs such as Ivermectin that were very efficient in treatment of Covid, now proved, but removed from doctors armoury.
The great clamour for ventilators. They killed more patients than they saved. (I was a miraculous survivor)
We will never know the truth from this whitewash enquiry. I have even heard that NHS records have been altered. Is thus true?
June 7, 2023
+++
Brilliant!
100%
All the measures used were very dangerousâŠwhich certainly says something!
June 7, 2023
Trials in other countries showed that HCQ was effective against the virus if given early morning before the patient was so ill that hospitalisation was eventually allowed. The trial in the UK in Oxford treated the patients late in hospital and used 6 times the maximum dosage given in the BNF. Unfortunately the result was not helpful and the drug was rejected and the vaccine solution was preferred. Successful treatment would have prevented the Emergency Use of the day short term tested vaccine.
Some doctors informed the PM that ivermectin had also been shown to be very effective in treating covid early. The letters and video were not even acknowledged. Again this treatment would have made vaccination difficult. Eventually the UK trial was given to Oxford University and it seems to have been nearly 2 years without any report of progress. The records of the delivery of information and rejection of treatment by these cheap non patent drugs need to be made available to the public.
Etc ed
June 7, 2023
Predictive text added morning after I checked it.
June 7, 2023
To add the the above.
The enquiry should cover the appalling loss of civil liberties and individual freedom inflicted by the draconian legislation. Also the role of the state that shamelessly coerced the population with fear, generated by the daily ‘case numbers’. Then there was ‘the science’, always wrong, the projections of astonishing numbers of deaths from Prof. Ferguson. Gypsy Rose could have done better.
Will the enquiry cover masks that never worked and the ‘vaccine’ harms running into hundreds of thousands and over 2,400 dead? (Yellow card reports). Why, during swine flu, the vaccine was withdrawn after two deaths but after thousands die we are still told the jabs are ‘safe and effective’? Patently untrue.
June 7, 2023
Why do the powers that be want us to live in this state of permanent emergency?
It is no good for man nor beast ( especially cows).
And it is perfectly obvious that it will not end well for anyone.
Matthew 7:16-20 KJV
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
June 7, 2023
Wise Words
June 7, 2023
I posted on your website at the start of lockdowns that lockdowns would cause serious harm. I quoted the figure that a 1% drop in GDP would cost 100k in early deaths.
I said we should let âthe healthy live and protect the vulnerable.â I quoted the history of plague hospitals and a plan to put care home staff up in empty hotels.
I also posted research at the start and pointed out that each health service around the country has a pandemic plan based on having a legal duty to do so, but those plans were very poor. For example I quoted figures the amount of reserve PPE varied from 0 to 6 weeks.
During the pandemic I was very critical of the very one sided Government figures that did not give a realistic picture of the scale of the deaths relative to the flu or the cause of deaths or the demographic profile of the deaths. I quoted the Asian and Hong Kong flu figures that were as bad a covid.
I was also critical of the mRNA vaccines because of the possibility of reverse transcription, where the short mRNA strand could be transcripted back into peoples DNA and spike proteins wound continue to be produced. This mechanism has now been reported in research papers as the cause of a recent increase of heart deaths and other diseases. I had overseen creating the worlds first patient-led rare disease genetic registry, so had expertise in this area.
It really wasnât difficult to see the lop sided chaos .
My suggestion is that in future a jury of expert cynics is appointed during a pandemic to control Governments lop-sided behaviour.
June 7, 2023
Its easy to be wise after the incident, aint it mate?
June 7, 2023
I think you mean sceptics, not ‘cynics’, Javelin.
June 7, 2023
Javelin
We should have followed the eminently sensible Great Barrington Declaration but that was dismissed out of hand by the governmentâŠ. Why?
June 7, 2023
In 2018 the UK experienced a mini pre-run with excess deaths due to the flu, hardly a murmur about the 40-year high. It was casually blamed on an ineffective flu jab. “50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales in 2017/18 – the highest recorded since winter 1975/76,” Telegraph.
I felt that we would go through peak death years as we had a cycle of peak birth years + with the extra immigration and longevity (delayed deaths compared to expected longevity from a decade ago).
I remember Sweden bucking the global advice at the time and the condemnation their government and advisor went through. I recall the threats from Macron when Boris was resisting lockdown until the school holidays started, hoping that those two weeks over the Easter break would be the only circuit breaker required (if such a thing with all the planes and boats coming into the UK was ever really a true break of transmission).
June 7, 2023
Indeed we need to counteract the moronic, wrongheaded group think that is everywhere in government – Covid vaccines, the lockdown, test and trace, net zero, the energy policy, tax levels, the size of governmentâŠ
June 8, 2023
Thatâs what we need to elect to Parliament. That is Parliaments job – but they enacted an Enabling Act and went of on holiday for a few years.
We must demand that we select whosoever we like and NOT from a Party List.
Interesting that the US Presidential problem will be resolved by the Democratic Party selecting a Kennedy. Then both candidates for the Presidency will be patriots and rational. Good enough for me.
June 7, 2023
The WHO announces its next power-grab, in collaboration with the EU. The EU’s roadmap for implementing Vaccine Passports started in 2018.
https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-12/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf
“In June 2023, WHO will take up the European Union (EU) system of digital COVID-19 certification to establish a global system that will help facilitate global mobility and protect citizens across the world from on-going and future health threats, including pandemics. This is the first building block of the WHO Global Digital Health Certification Network (GDHCN) that will develop a wide range of digital products to deliver better health for all.”
If you refuse to submit to their jab demands, you will be prevented from travelling. So that’s another “conspiracy theory” demonstrated to be no such thing.
https://www.who.int/news/item/05-06-2023-the-european-commission-and-who-launch-landmark-digital-health-initiative-to-strengthen-global-health-security
June 7, 2023
If you canât get power by democratic means âŠ.try international treaty
June 8, 2023
Any Govt can reverse any Treaty within hours by deploying the Royal Prerogative. That always included the Treaty of Rome.
June 7, 2023
Yes you were closer to the coalface than most of us so your experience on the subject could be valuable to the enquiry. Your general observations of how government responded to the crisis, to the creation of a vaccine, to your suggestions and with hindsight on the outcomes and with ideas on how we might better react to the next one. Remember that insight into warfare that said something to the effect that, in the event of war you should have a plan but expect to modify it on day two. Or the one that confirms that the next war will never be like the last one. This suggests to me a valid reason for involvement in proxy wars for acceptable reasons.
June 7, 2023
If anyone is unhappy about their messages being seen by others, they and others may be at risk.
Sometimes people deceive to protect others from worry.
Buddy Holly sang that in an expression of love:
âWell they say what you don’t know won’t hurt you
And I believe that it’s so
So don’t tell me that you found someone new
To go thru life with youâ
What was the Govtâs intent? Finding a carer for life or covering carelessness?
June 7, 2023
The inquiry will not be seeking your opinion Sir John. It is a witch hunt to appease the families of the dead and others who think they lost out because of government policy. It’s also a gravy train for the legal profession.
The organisation I work for has engaged barristers to represent is stakeholders. ÂŁ110,000 per year for five years. Ridiculous.
We need a one week enquiry with Mr Johnson admitting the government panicked and followed the herd. Lockdowns were an over reaction and we should have isolated the weak, vulnerable and scared in their homes with financial support and used the Nightingale hospitals as quarantine hospitals.
Cheaper and quicker to the herd immunity that vaccination led us to. The same number of people would probably have died and the rest of us would have carried on regardless. Your suggested approach was correct.
June 7, 2023
Rather than a COVID enquiry I would rather see an enquiry into the WHO pandemic treaty. This must be stopped at all cost else we will lose any control over how we manage future so called pandemics.
June 7, 2023
Spot on Christine
June 7, 2023
I very much hope that the minority of MPs who questioned the groupthink that drove covid policy will insist that the Inquiry covers the process of how expert advice was sought by the govt and from whom. Also the public debate around policy. Distinguished figures such as Profs Heneghan, Gupta and Bhattacharya were ignored, and now it seems their public utterances might have been censored, inter alia by the Orwellian named âcovid disinformation unitâ (a body whose existence should itself be a subject for the Inquiry). As we know from many other cases, groupthink makes for bad public policy. Refusal to debate and denigration of dissenting opinion, however distinguished, is a serious disservice to the public and it seems very likely contributed to some of the poor decisions for which we are all now still paying. This will perhaps be the most difficult aspect of the Inquiry, as almost the whole political establishment, both govt and opposition, were lined up behind the lockdown groupthink, and will have no interest in clear and rigorous scrutiny of the debate on this and other issues.
Meanwhile there is a worrying sign that the Inquiry is seeking to expand its remit to include all sorts of irrelevant and vague generalities including the customary modern obsessions with race and equality. We donât need the Inquiry to waste time with wokish posturing, we need it to establish rigorously what went right and what went wrong in covid policy. So real lessons can be learnt for future pandemics – and for other areas of public policy.
June 7, 2023
Sir Redwood
Re: UV in hospital air-ducts
Great initiative considering that many healthy people contracted covid, during a visit to a hospital for other reasons.
This would also be a great measure against Legionnaires disease which can infect hundreds via the air conditioning system as well as other future viral pandemics.
June 7, 2023
They went with cheaper face masks that have proved to be pathetic and useless
June 7, 2023
According to the IEA (Institute of Economic Affairs) the lockdowns were a costly failure.
Such his my diminishing faith in Government enquiries these days, I believe it will drag on and on, much like the “Bloody Sunday” enquiry of yesteryear and conclude, eventually, no one was to blame but ‘lessons would be learned’ (the ubiquitous Sir Humphry additive). Thus exonerating those who ordered them without consulting and abiding by the REAL Science. No heads will roll but us tax payers will have to pick up their tab, regardless. AGAIN.
More is the pity that we’ll get exactly the same from Labour and the LibDems too, if they ever get back into Downing Street. Due to this apparent commonality, I do wonder if it is those unelected, permanently in the back rooms of power, who actually control such events and not the Ministers responsible.
June 7, 2023
This is a densely populated country and the Chinese plague virus was unbelievably contagious. At the time there was no alternative but to force the public to stay at home and so break the chains of transmission. What has enraged them is the way the politicians ignored their own advice (“Partygate”) whilst the public was unable to say farewell to loved ones dying in hospital or indeed, attend funerals…..
That there is an unseemly battle going on between the enquiry chair and the cabinet office over whatsapp messages etc just makes folk wonder what there is to hide. Politicians are not scentists with expertise in epidemiology and it seems obvious that decisions were being made on politics, rather than the science.
We must not forget that about 185,000 citizens of this country sadly had “covid” written on their death certificates during the pandemic
June 8, 2023
Written on the death certificates by Doctors who had. It seem the patients! This in itself was a massive corruption.
June 8, 2023
Sakara, we must not forget the panic and other more dubious motives which led to ‘Covid’ being put on so many of those death certificates. Nor must we forget the tyrannical use of media and social media to spread fear about the ‘Chinese plague virus’ and other puerile memes. And above all we must never forget that the politicians who were trying to scare the proverbial out of us knew perfectly well that, for healthy people under 80, there was little or no real risk in meeting and behaving normally.
June 8, 2023
It was highly contagious but dangerous only to a very small group of easily identified people: the very elderly/frail (already over the average age of death in the UK) and those already suffering from serious co-morbidities.
Before imposing the disastrous lockdowns the Government had downgraded Covid to a Low Consequence Infectious Disease because they knew it had low mortality rates. They knew that was around 0.2% of the population.
The correct policy was to advise the general population on mitigation measures and to protect, as best as possible, those seriously at risk. They did the complete opposite: they locked up the healthy and sent the frail elderly in hospitals back to their care homes where they could spread the virus to other vulnerable people.
June 8, 2023
The way people were treated in hospital for COVID was a large part of the problem. Putting people under and putting them on ventilation was done far more often than was necessary and was counterproductive in many cases. This caused many deaths.
June 7, 2023
Precisely so, as usual
June 7, 2023
John
I do not think you will be asked for your views or thoughts, this is a political enquiry based on much hindsight and what if’s, it is not a real one in the true sense of the word.!
June 7, 2023
During the early stages of the pandemic Johnson was ensconced at Chequers dealing with his marital affairs. He missed 5 COBR meetings on the trot, but finally attended one. That day I risked my life to go the the supermarket looking for cans of baked beans and some toilet rolls (the shelves were empty, there were no beans or toilet rolls)
When I got back home Sky News had a banner headline at the bottom of the screen “Virus spreading out of control, hundreds dying daily, NHS overwhelmed, Johnson advises the public to wash their hands more often”
And that really reflects the government’s response. Hopeless.
June 7, 2023
Sakara.
The Government pushed all efforts to encourage development of a vaccine, they eventually succeeded as did the roll out with the army in charge of that part of the plan.
No one had a clue as to how best to treat the pandemic, how to stay clear of it, why it affected some and not others, and thousands were dying each day all over the World, including all of the developed Countries.
Yes errors were made, some choices were wrong, some policies were simply daft.
What would you have preferred, for the Government to say do as you like, just get on with it, and if it spreads tough for those who catch it !
Hindsight is fantastic.
Ask yourself why do we not still have a pandemic now, could it be because millions are now protected from the major effects, because of a vaccine, and so called herd immunity is now in place. ?
Yes I have no doubt some people were affected by the vaccine, but more were, and still are affected by the Covid infection with long term problems, including 3 people we know of.
June 8, 2023
Alan, it isn’t hindsight. All the criticisms of lockdowns you’re reading on this blog were things that knowledgeable people, including a Nobel prizewinner or two, were saying at the time, but to know about them we had to find alternative news outlets. You would not have known about them if you were just following the mainstream media. As the Telegraph revealed last week, the government didn’t want you to know about them.
June 8, 2023
Your post confirms that Hancockâs psycho-ops of âscaring the pants off themâ worked. That was terrorism JR. This poor woman thought that obtaining food was a life-threatening activity.
June 8, 2023
“risked my life going to the supermarket to buy baked beans.” đ
If they really believed the virus was SO deadly, the supermarkets would have had to have been closed ….. they couldn’t risk killing the entire workforce!
June 8, 2023
Thank you, Sakara, for reminding us of that Sky news rolling headline – it’s a priceless memento of the corporate media’s Operation Fear, and the gullibility of the people who believed it. Fooling the public with a health scare ought to be a lot harder next time.
June 7, 2023
While we wait the decade or so for the Covid Enquiry to finally report it might be a good idea if Parliament reviewed The Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which can give a single minister absolute power.
Apparently Section 45R of this act (the urgency procedure) enables legislation to be implemented without scrutiny.
The result, as we all now know, was a disaster for this country. I think this petition on the UK Government and Parliament website is worth considering.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/634564
June 7, 2023
The government is intent on hiding as much as possible the discussions and correspondence relating to the great covid fallacy. They want to keep the illusions going that they were doing their best – Ha!
The trouble is we know what they are trying to get the get the enquiry to ignore, but still they object to the real facts being opened to the public.
In normal times the PM would have fallen on his sword and taken the cabinet with him – but there is no integrity or honesty left in people who are supposed to be serving us.
June 7, 2023
Releasing the Government information ought not to be resisted . I wish to know for certain whether Boris was – and is , a man of integrity . We were all subjected to severe restraints during the Covid period and we expected and required a leadership that displayed honesty and actions that set an example . Rumours exist that his was not the case and the truth has now to be disclosed . If anyone in high office failed in this respect then they should be punished and , if still in office , immediately removed .
June 8, 2023
âJohnson at 10: The inside storyâ, A.Seldon & R.Newell, May 2023 is a very depressing book that shows that âtruth is stranger than fictionâ. Well worth the ÂŁ7.47 (Kindle) specially for those who still think that Johnson has ever been anything more than a chaotic person.
June 7, 2023
I was inside the NHS in senior IT/business crisis change role at the height of Covid. I sat in many meetings surrounded by tens of consultants from the leading consultancies, all being paid a lot, but among the hundreds I met only 2 or 3 of us had a clue and were carrying the rest. I am aware of the deal between people like (named Ed)and the NHS, and how bad a deal it is for the public, and they way they have abused their “knowledge is power” position. I have seen a lot of the senior NHS IT leadership close up in action, and a more sorry bunch of incompetent politicians with zero substance it would be hard to find. I was in Dept of Health head office, from time to time, and saw their compliance with masks, social distancing, and other stuff forced onto the rest of the population. I was in countless “teams” calls troubleshooting chaos due to the poor way the NHS managed its subcontractors. I was in countless teams calls where they talked of the inevitable inquiries after it all calmed down, and how they needed to hide and manipulate data. I doubt any of the reality I saw will surface, and the system is very much setup so that candid truth from people with substance who were there will be hidden.
I have seen the “RAF Leadership EXPOSED” YouTube episode by “Fast Jet Performance”, and can see that sheer incompetence in senior layers of the RAF is being tolerated by the politicians in the same way they tolerate it in the NHS.
A lot of what you say is correct John. But a lot more too. A lot of the best people with integrity walk away, and the clowns remain self selecting each other. Its sad, so sad.
June 8, 2023
Its also interesting that one of the senior American leaders of services to the NHS describes the British publics relationship with the NHS as “Stockholm Syndrome”, I think he is correct about that.
June 7, 2023
It’s just inexperience of life, statistics and common sense.
A reasonably well educated group of 70 something year olds, who were supposedly the most vulnerable section of the population, could certainly have made more sensible analyses than those employed to do so.
The key trigger points were
1 Early Feb 2020 to late March 2020, when it was apparent there was a potentially bad virus circulating elsewhere, restrict movements from those places into the UK. Inform vulnerable people here that they should restrict contact with potential carriers wherever possible. Carers should already have had a plan in place to restrict their movements as much as possible between locations to avoid cross infections.
2 By mid-April 2020 it was clear that non-vulnerable people below retirement age were barely affected in non-contact settings. So 99% of that age group should have continued with life as usual – as indeed was happening in 10 Downing Street. Those who were particularly worried could be supported with loans at UC level repayable like student loans as and when they returned to work. Retired folk could have made their own decisions about mingling or not.
3 By mid-May 2020 99% of us should have been free to pursue life as usual. Figures began to be clearly distorted in presentations and most of us smelt a rat at that stage. This was a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
June 7, 2023
Having reflected on Lockdown (hindsight is a wonderful thing) my attitude now is “never again”. The approach by governments across the globe were out of all proportion to the risks in the western world (it was not the bubonic or pneumonic plague); and in the UK we were sold the pup of “protect the NHS)”.
June 7, 2023
D P.
Quite agree. Now, due to govt. actions then, the NHS is on its knees.
June 7, 2023
David Paine: “The approach by governments across the globe were … ”
Coordinated. Same sound bites, same messaging, same draconian measures.
And now they want to entrench the authority of the WHO or UN ( or even the WEF ) to dictate similar measures in the future?
June 7, 2023
Sir John,
In 2021 I signed the Great Barrington Declaration. I felt that the approach recommended by the well respected authors was the correct one. Shortly afterwards when asked about it in the House, Matt Hancock loudly stated that they were just plain wrong. There was no further debate.
June 7, 2023
As did I
June 7, 2023
Put it into law that our governments canât place our country in a state of âlock-downâ without a referendum of the people
June 7, 2023
We need to forget about the past and what was right/wrong and should have/not have happened. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but unfortunately we live in the real world and nothing can change what has happened.
We ALL need to address the mess that the country is in now and move forward and put policies in place that will enable us to get out of this situation. The extortionate rising costs in living, mortgage rates continue to rise, unemployment, NHS etc . We should put all our energies into the current issues, not waste time and money dwelling on the past
June 7, 2023
We face a cost of lockdown crisis, not a cost of living crisis. It caused some of the current problems.
Accordingly, we need to condemn the policies followed 2020-23, so that they are never followed again.
We had a 2011 ‘pandemic plan’ ready to go but tore it up under WHO pressure,
June 9, 2023
Karen Allen – NO we do not forget about the past…….
I want all those low lifes who were responsible for and were well aware of what they were instigating held to accountable and prosecuted. Unfortunately not much likelyhood of that that happening and Capital Punishment has been abolished in this country. As George Carlin said,”It is a big club and we aint in it”
June 7, 2023
This enquiry will be useless and take years to achieve nothing. Everything in this country takes years, often decades pass between start and finish, and of course the finish is of no benefit.
The country is corrupt, run by a comfortable elite. No-one who makes mistakes is punished – only the ordinary powerless people suffer.
June 9, 2023
PW- spot on. The Globalist UK Establishment run the show and have done for centuries however Change is Coming.
June 7, 2023
The ultraviolet air purification systems you alluded to are actually quite commonplace in air conditioning systems installed in US buildings. They tend to recirculate air a lot more than do European air circulation systems and thus have a problem with pollutants such as fungal spores building up in the air. The obvious solution is to circulate more outdoor air and use a heat pump system to transfer heat between the incoming and outgoing air streams, whether to retain or to exclude heat.
However, the other solution is what is actually done, namely to sterilise the circulating air. Thus systems like this are common, known technology and should be easy to retro-fit to modern air conditioning systems.
June 7, 2023
Hawaii volcano erupts again and huge wild fires across north USA and Canada are not manmade and therefore nothing to worry about âŠnet-zero still on schedule
June 7, 2023
JR: “I am quite happy for any of my emails, texts and other messages received by Ministers and the NHS during covid to be considered and published …”
Are communications tools such as ‘Whatsapp’ or other non governmental systems applications/communication tool(s) approved for members of the civil service or ministers of the Crown when conducting discussions about government business or policy with other civil servants or ministers of the Crown?
If not, are you concerned that using such communications tools might be an effort to circumvent FoI or other legislation ?
June 9, 2023
We still have no idea if the communications between Ministers and Civil servants or Ministers and other Ministers in the government using ‘unconventional’ means of communication; Whatsapp, Facebook, facetime, etc are within the ministerial guidelines or the civil service code.
Until we know they were, we must assume that use of such means of communitions to discuss government business and policy, was in breach of the relevant civil service, or ministerial code.
In most organisations I’ve worked in, the company has an approved application to communicate with other members of Staff. So, it’s not a extraordinary question.
But it there is a civil service convention, or civil service issued communications devices for secure communication, do those devices include Whatsapp etc., ?
Otherwise, the suspicion remains that these communications applications were being used to circumvent the law.
June 7, 2023
You know the governments counter-disinformation unit to stop any covid dissent âŠis it now being used to stop any net-zero dissent ?
June 7, 2023
It is callous and idiotic to do things that cause more harm than good – lockdowns, net harm vaccines, test and trace, the letâs shut down the people taking sense agenda let by Oliver Dowden!
June 8, 2023
As far as emotional language is concerned ,no more evidence is required to see your hyperinflated emotional comments when referring to others who you so arrogantly see as below yourself . That’s the DIRE consequence of attempting to ridicule others.
June 7, 2023
Glen
Probably !
June 8, 2023
I wonder what the cost of this inquiry will be? And wonder how much money will find its way to expensive lawyers?
June 8, 2023
Unfortunately not enough notice was taken of your comments
June 8, 2023
The inquiry seems to be staffed by the usual bunch of lawyers with no scientific or mathematical background at all. It is therefore ill-equipped to investigate the advice given to ministers by SAGE and modellers like Ferguson which they found impossible to ignore, even when it later proved wrong, and led to some very bad decisions. I also doubt theyâll investigate the press for their relentless scaremongering and ignorance on display night after night when the only question they would ask at the Covid briefings, when they had experts in front of them, was âMinister will you resign ?â
June 9, 2023
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