Labour is still an angry opposition to Conservatives. It needs to become a government.

Once you are in government with a big majority and a mandate for change you are responsible. The electorate knew what they didn’t like about the former Conservative government and sent it packing. They did so by half the 2019 Conservative vote abstaining or voting Reform. Labour now has to prove it can govern better. It has to earn the huge majority first past the post delivers when one of the two main parties sees its support collapse.

So far we have an Opposition with a majority. How is the economy we ask? Broken they say. Will you make it better? No, it will get worse.

How is the NHS we ask? Broken they say. Can you fix it? It is going to take years they reply. The plans of how to do it are still secret.

How will you get growth we ask? By delivering huge amounts of investment in wind and solar power they say. How will you do that and afford that? The Secretary of  State sends an urgent letter to National Grid demanding a plan to get to net zero and asking how much it will cost. Listening to Labour in the election they had worked all that out in 14 years in Opposition.

How will you stop illegal migration we ask. By appointing a new Border Commander and working with the French authorities they reply. We do not need an offshore processing centre or destination for illegals they assert. The last government had tried both those options. Why have numbers been going up over the first three months of the so called new policy?

How will you deliver the promised ÂŁ300 off home energy bills we ask? Domestic energy is about to go up 10%. Firms putting in new renewables or running back up gas power stations will need to make profits from higher prices. The government seems to be dropping the ÂŁ300 pledge.

How will you clean up politics as promised we ask. We will bring in a rule against donors buying us all expensive new wardrobes of clothes after they have given us an initial makeover they reply.  We will say Unions giving us loads of money  has no bearing on our employment law changes, they chirrup.

It’s time Labour behaved like a government. You defend what the government is  doing or you set out a detailed working plan of how to fix problems. You are proud of what the country is doing and highlight success, not look for everything bad to run down. If something needs improving then fix it.

 

109 Comments

  1. Lifelogic
    September 22, 2024

    Indeed they keep saying they want growth but all their policies (other than relaxing planning) are hugely anti-growth. Labour are the same as Sunak’s Con-Socialists but even worse.

    Matt Ridley today in the Telegraph is surely right.
    Don’t fall for the Chinese wet market theory for Covid
    Contrary to reports, the evidence still points to a lab leak being the most likely cause of the pandemic

    Needless to say the BBC reported it in their unquestioning mode they one the unscientific dopes use for anything pro Net Zero or for the war on CO2 plant, tree and crop food!

    1. Lifelogic
      September 22, 2024

      David Starkey’s new video “From Public Service to Self-Service” is worth watching.

      1. Lifelogic
        September 22, 2024

        The rule of the Blob, by the Blob and for the Blob.

        1. Nick
          September 22, 2024

          Sir Keir has many times made plain his view that solving our problems is a ten-year task. He also talks and acts like a man who does not fear the judgement of the electorate.

          Putting these together, should we suspect that he plans to stay in power, come what may, for a decade, and that he will not shrink from any steps necessary, up to and including suspending the Parliament Act?

          Our constitution has been called a “Good Chap” one – it works so long as the chaps at the top are good chaps. Are we about to discover what happens when they aren’t?

          1. dixie
            September 22, 2024

            I too suspect the gizza-a-gift mob in government will try to ensure they remain in power come what may. No doubt some state of emergency or other wheeze will be created just in time.

      2. Donna
        September 22, 2024

        So is Ivor Cummins’ latest on YouTube entitled “The UN Pact for the Future: What about your children?”

        It should wake up anyone who thinks this country is a democracy and the elected Government is really running things.

        1. Lifelogic
          September 22, 2024

          +1

    2. Mark B
      September 22, 2024

      LL

      What they mean by ‘growth’ is not what you and I would think. They mean growth in the STATE !!!

      1. Peter Wood
        September 22, 2024

        Exactly so, this is the REAL policy of this socialist government; grow the state at the expense of the private sector. We know how this story ends; look at the many examples already. But in Starmer world, this time is will be different. Starmer, Reeves et al will get it right because they’ve been given the plan by the Davos clique.
        Let’s be honest, we couldn’t abide the Consocialists and got the only alternative. Labour only has the thinnest veneer of care of or interest in the UK’s population, and we accepted it. Now we know, it’s all about the Party, everything else is subordinate. The Party leadership will only look after themselves and their future in power. They are confident because they think the EU is with them, along with the silent power brokers/managers puling the strings.
        Let’s make them regret their hubris.

      2. Mickey Taking
        September 22, 2024

        and eventually the mere people become accustomed to no services, out of stock of wanted goods, no recourse on state decisions, no appeal processes. Finally they shrug and forget it was ever different.
        Levelling down achieved.

      3. Lifelogic
        September 22, 2024

        Indeed and a huge shrinking of the productive sector they parasite off.

        I see Raynor and Reeves has come forward on their “donations”. Reeves recorded her clothing gifts as “support for her office” so obviously knew it would not look good if she told the truth. The Gov. line seems to be:- if these (what most people would reasonable describe as) “bribes” are declared it is all just fine as otherwise the tax payer might have to buy her frocks so it safes the public purse.

        Pathetic dear. Does Rayner still think abolition of Non Doms and VAT on private school fees will raise net funds? In other words is she still a deluded idiot?

  2. Lifelogic
    September 22, 2024

    Talking the country down is not good for growth, net zero alone will kill growth, ever more state sector and taxes likewise.

  3. Lifelogic
    September 22, 2024

    Nigel Farage and Reform have betrayed Brexit
    John Major, while still wrong on illegal migration, is right in his critique of the politician and his party

    “Reform, in taking over 90 seats away from the Conservatives but without gaining a single shred of influence in Parliament, has betrayed Brexit and handed Starmer a substantial majority”

    Bill Cash today.

    I think the fake Tories, after failing to even ‘try to deliverk on their last four manifesto’s, did that mate. How could the serial betrayers expect to be trusted again? Plus they were wrong on virtually everything through Covid Vaccines, corruption and Lockdowns and on net zero which is economic suicide.

    Sir Bill the “we are dire but not quite as dire as Labour” was the pathetic Sunak offer. He could have won as the country was crying out for sensible real Conservative Policies but the foolish Sunak threw the towel in with his Socialism light, net zero lunacy, failure to even try to control immigration and the dire Windsor Accord.

    1. Ian Wraggg
      September 22, 2024

      Farage needs to steal many more tory and labour seats during the coming bye elections and the next general election. The uniparty right to government has to be smashed if we’re to escape this downward spiral
      The tory leadership debacle demonstrates the sheer incompetence of the party and makes them more irrelevant each day.
      Well done Nige for a cracking conference.

      1. Donna
        September 22, 2024

        There may only be 5 of them in Parliament, but they look, sound and behave like the real Opposition.

        4000, in the NEC and a great many more around the country. I’ll be going to the Exeter event on 9 November.

      2. Christine
        September 22, 2024

        Over the next four years, Reform has to show that it can win the next election. Voters have to see that a vote for Reform is not a wasted vote. They have to break the stranglehold of the two-party system. The next Senedd elections in Wales will be a good test for them. I’ve joined my local Reform group and have been delivering leaflets for the council by-elections. As a new party, they currently lack volunteers, candidates and money. I believe that getting rid of the consocialists is the only hope for the future of our country.

        1. dixie
          September 22, 2024

          I have volunteered but heard diddly squat – I guess it takes a while to set up local operations.

          1. Christine
            September 22, 2024

            I volunteered several times before I got a response. The organisation is dire but I think they are now getting their act together.

      3. Ian wragg
        September 22, 2024

        I see brain dead Milipede is resurrecting the gas boiler tax
        Ian there no end to his mendacious meddling but then again it was all part of treacherous Mays nut zero agenda.
        Labour Welsh minister on news without ab ounce of self awareness. Detailing progress so far by blaming everything rightly on the last government. Two checks of the same posterior.

    2. Reform Now!
      September 22, 2024

      Lifelogic, you are 100% correct. Cash, as ever, wants to blame anyone except himself and his fellow Tory Brexiters for the betrayal. Were Reform and Nigel Farage in charge of Brexit? No, that was the Conservative government. They had years to do it right, they didn’t do it at all. The host of this site seems to think we Reform voters are”on loan” from the Conservatives and will obediently go back to voting Conservative in future. NO! I – and everyone I met at the amazing Reform conference last week, see our number one priority as the total destruction of the treacherous Tories and their replacement by a genuine right wing party led by Nigel. It can’t happen soon enough

      Reply Tell us your view, do not misrepresent mine. I have never said Conservative votes are on loan. The truth is all the time Conservative and Reform split the anti Labour/ left wing vote Labour can get elected with a very low vote. Time will tell whether either Conservative or Reform can unite the anti socialist vote, or whether the two can do a deal.

      1. Donna
        September 22, 2024

        Badenoch declared that people who voted for Reform UK are “the Conservative Party’s voters” thus demonstrating the usual arrogance we get from the CONservative Establishment.

        I think the Party should choose her as Leader ….. and they’ll find out the hard way that we’re not.

        1. Lemming
          September 22, 2024

          I find it fascinating, Donna. Conservative politicians tell Reform voters that they are being silly and should vote Conservative instead, and then seem surprised at the reaction!

      2. graham1946
        September 22, 2024

        Reply to reply
        Exactly. Time to ditch the corrupt FPTP system which is not even working anymore. Surely no-one can be content with the result of this farce of an election, giving unlimited power to people with minimal support and no idea how to govern, who will no doubt be led by the nose by the civil service to even further extremes of wokeness and damaging experiments on our county. Milliband is the greatest danger to us, but Starmer put him there on the old pals act once again, regardless of any other consideration. The clothing issue pales into insignificance compared with what is coming.

      3. Mickey Taking
        September 22, 2024

        reply to reply…given the last 14 years, I’d hate to think these ‘Tories’ would have any influence on Reform.

    3. Mike Wilson
      September 22, 2024

      Reform, in taking over 90 seats away from the Conservatives but without gaining a single shred of influence in Parliament, has betrayed Brexit and handed Starmer a substantial majority

      Are you saying that? Or John Major? Or Bill Cash.

      Regardless of who said it, it is nonsense. May and Johnson betrayed Brexit. Johnson had a huge majority but threw it away. Reform gaining 4 million votes (for a start) will frighten not Labour and the Tories. Labour will be very aware that if Reform gain a couple of million more votes from the Tories, and a couple of million of their Red Wall voters, they will lose the next election. So they will have to think very carefully about further betraying of Brexit.

      1. Mike Wilson
        September 22, 2024

        will frighten not Labour and the Tories

        will frighten both Labour and the Tories. Pesky phone!

      2. Lifelogic
        September 22, 2024

        Bill Cash.

        1. Mike Wilson
          September 22, 2024

          Used to quite like the bloke. Didn’t realise he was a fool.

    4. Wanderer
      September 22, 2024

      LL, Major is wrong, as usual: the not-a- Conservative Party took seats away from Reform, so giving Labour a substantial majority.

      The Conservatives are just the blue wing of the socialist-marxist monolith. They exist to deny the Right power. On the Continent this is achieved via PR, with all the non-Right Parties getting seats, then forming coalitions to exclude the popular Right. With our FPP system that doesn’t work so we have a spoiler, called the Conservative Party, whose role is to seduce right wing voters into voting for a fake right wing Party and thus keep socialism going (whether the majority of the population want it or not).

  4. Andrew Jones
    September 22, 2024

    Clear to see they have absolutely no ideas how to do anything. Starmer’s approval rating is plummeting rapidly and less than 3 months from the election things are starting to pan out as expected. This is a Government that looks very uncomfortable in power with it’s majority delivered by Reform – and they know it.

    1. Mark B
      September 22, 2024

      All they have to do is sit tight. The Tory’s are a neutered opposition. The LibDems agree with much on what Labour will want, and Reform are seen as little more than a rabble to be shouted down at every opportunity.

      After 4 years, if they are still down in the polls, they will get rid of Two Tier Keir and replace him with some other Wooden Top. Much like they did with Blair.

    2. Mickey Taking
      September 22, 2024

      So CPS would not challenge Fayed on two occasions. Who was Director of Public Prosecutions between 2009-2015? Starmer.

      1. Donna
        September 22, 2024

        Presumably for the same reason they didn’t prosecute the grooming gangs …… under the same DPP.

        1. Lifelogic
          September 22, 2024

          But look at the many innocent people who were hounded. Many journalists, various elderly tories


  5. Linda Brown
    September 22, 2024

    This is not a government we have now. They are a lot of free loaders who will scrounge everything their dirty little fingers can get hold of and then move onto well paid jobs when they are thrown out onto the muck pile. Seen it all before with Tories and jobs for the boys after moving out of politics. We do not have the committed people we once did. The Frank Field’s have long gone never to return. What a shame for a beautiful country which my parents both served in the 2nd World War to preserve and I have also followed them into security to safeguard the country.

    1. Mark B
      September 22, 2024

      Linda

      There was NEVER a golden age. We have always suffered with grifters.

  6. agricola
    September 22, 2024

    Don’t worry, they have no plan for national recovery, just a string of tribal feuds they are compelled in their minds to settle. As a government of a majority of MPs derived from a minority of votes they confirm that FPTP does not answer national needs. For absolute confirmation, Reforms 4 m+ votes= 5 MPs and Lib/Dems 3m+ votes = 70+ MPs.

    Anyway fret not, Labour are busy digging the hole of self internment. Meanwhile the Lib/Dems will continue dancing round the maypole while a rump conservative party will continue to argue among themselves as to who and what they are. Meanwhile Reform with Wellingtonian foresight are inspired and busy preparing the battle ground. It is merely a matter of the electorate realising that Reform are the only game in town who have the determination to answer their needs. I hope that Nigel and his team realise that solutions go way beyond an outright election win. HMS UK is in dire need of a complete reset. There are examples a plenty out there for them to follow, and few of us are in doubt as to the necessity.

    1. Berkshire alan
      September 22, 2024

      Agreed

    2. BOF
      September 22, 2024

      Agricola
      Nigel and his team have a great example of how to deal with the left in Javier Milei of Argentina who has dealt with the rotten left and told the WEF where to go in short order. I do have reservations and will never forget how Nigel caved in to the Consocialists in 2019!

      1. agricola
        September 22, 2024

        He caved to getting Brexit done. The aim was correct and deemed more important than party politics. Sadly the consocialists he enabled in 20l19 were in surrender mode. I doubt it will happen again.

    3. Donna
      September 22, 2024

      Reform needs to prepare a Great Repeal Bill so that they hit the ground running.

      1. Timaction
        September 22, 2024

        Agreed. Human Rights Act, Supreme Court, Equality Act, ECHR, The Withdrawal Agreement, 4000 EU laws, DEI (didn’t Earn It), ESG, Climate Change Act should all go straight away. Followed by the devolved Government’s and all totally unnecessary Mayor’s abolished. Vast reduction in Lords and MP numbers and those in the Lords should be elected not favoured placemen and women. Totally useless troughers. 90% of Quangos and overseas aid. There’s a start.

  7. Lifelogic
    September 22, 2024

    No so much “an opposition to” just an even worse “continuation of” the Con-Socialist policies delivered by Cameron, May, Boris and Suank which were a serial betrayal of four manifestos.

    1. Mickey Taking
      September 22, 2024

      I find myself thinking ‘Came but went, Maybe maybe not, Bored i is and Sunk’.
      and Trussed like a turkey.

  8. IanB
    September 22, 2024

    It is time we had a parliament that acted like a parliament, working for the UK not factional marginal vested interest of a few zealots. It is not Labour, the are just ramping up the stupidness of the previous administration. The Conservatives had to go as they had become WEF Socialist deciples before serving even contemplating serving the Country, now the are running around headless believing that continuity of re-establishing those that failed collectively in office is even an option.
    Starmer and crew are only marginally more despicable, the will do untold damage to society and the economy. But let’s not forget it was Mrs May that gave them thier order, and those that followed ensured we had a Uni party Government

    1. Lifelogic
      September 22, 2024

      Indeed not only did the Con-Socialists fail to deliver on their promises in four manifestos but they did not even attempt or try to do so.

      1. MFD
        September 22, 2024

        well said LL , we were duped! Johnsonwas not trustworthy

    2. BOF
      September 22, 2024

      IanB +1

  9. David Andrews
    September 22, 2024

    On the evidence available, Labour is unfit for office.

    1. Dave Andrews
      September 22, 2024

      I think that was abundantly clear well before the election. There’s no point in debating what the government should do, you may as well plead with a primary class. They haven’t a Scoobie.

  10. Berkshire alan
    September 22, 2024

    The simple solution to the clothes issue is to put your hands up, say I made a big mistake and I have paid the person back in full out of my own earned income.
    Will it happen ?
    No, because they have no moral code.
    I would suggest whoever is in charge of MPs expenses should make the rules absolutely clear, and to follow HMRC rules set down that everyone else has to abide by, to the letter.
    Guarantee more suspect expenses, gifts, presents are in the pipeline which have yet to come to light.

  11. Mark B
    September 22, 2024

    Good morning.

    With respect, Sir John, it is a bit much to criticise the Labour government in this regard when your own party, which was in office for 14 years, did only one thing, and that was to make things worse.

    This Labour government is clearly setting standards low and using the opportunity to blame the Tory’s for everything that is wrong. This will of course work because it is true. However ! This will only work for a short period of time.

    Back in 1997 the then New Labour government came into office on the back of a similar set of circumstances. An unpopular Tory Party, a poor economic record and lack of trust. The only major difference between then and now is, that the UK economy then was recovering thanks to Tory policies which New Labour continued with for its first term in office. The other major difference between now and back then is, New Labour had a plan combined with purpose. It also had some smart and charismatic people. It was media and people savvy. The current Labour lot and really the bottom of the barrel in those terms but they are no less ideologically driven.

    Do not expect good government from this lot. They do not care how bad things get and what happens at the next GE. They are for the here and now and be damned.

    Reply Labour inherited the fastest growth in the G7 this year, inflation at 2% and a falling deficit.

    1. Dave Andrews
      September 22, 2024

      Reply to reply.
      Labour inherited an NHS with huge backlogs, no chance of anyone seeing a GP, border control out of the window, police whose response to road blockers was to fetch them cups of tea, streets captured by an invading army, legal and illegal migration out of control, a ÂŁ50bn deficit, ÂŁ100bn a year debt interest payments, industry hammered with taxes and legislation. Basically nothing worked except the cross channel ferry service.
      They could have at least put in place a sensible Chancellor ready for public service, but they selected numpties instead.

    2. Mickey Taking
      September 22, 2024

      reply to reply…but at least they show signs of cancelling foolish and expensive infrastructure projects. Removing hereditary peers is a step forward, but removing the peers who never attend, never speak, got appointed as a thank you would be better targets.

      1. Ian B
        September 22, 2024

        @Mickey Taking – are hereditary peers any worse than those that are appointed to the upper chamber, because of what could be seen as some kind of bribery and not an honour for service? – In this day and age the HoL should be fully elected as it stands it is perceived as a corrupted palace for the entitled

        1. Mickey Taking
          September 22, 2024

          One step in reducing the crazy number of peers!

    3. Ian B
      September 22, 2024

      @Reply – Labour also inherited one of the largest tax takes and borrowings in peace time, they inherited probably the largest unaccountable State sector we have ever seen, the ever growing promise will cull Quangos. They also inherited Mrs May’s Net Zero laws that all our competitors are not held back by. labour has inherited high energy costs with their punitive punishment agenda for its use and so on. one slight up blip means nought when it was Hunt that maliciously cause inflation etc to rise to he could proclaim success when it cam down

      1. Lifelogic
        September 22, 2024

        Labour are clearly determined to make the Net Zero lunacy far, far, worse. It is their choice now.

  12. Clough
    September 22, 2024

    Meanwhile the real opposition to Liblabcon are having their conference. Their leader says they need to get organised at local level, with “regional managers and regional organisers”. I agree, but the trouble is, they had regional managers three years ago, who couldn’t organise anything properly. I see no sign in my area of Reform UK doing the things they should be doing by now if winning lots of council seats in 2025 is really their target. This means that if the new Conservative leader can set out a programme for government that people want, the Tories can make a comeback. Despite its failings, the party has an organisational structure that Reform UK is still merely talking about. It is up to the Conservatives to take what may be their last chance to regain credibility as a genuine right-of-centre party. Should Reform eventually get properly organised, that chance will have gone.

    1. Christine
      September 22, 2024

      I agree that Reform to date has been badly organised. They are now getting their act together by setting up groups in every area of the country. What they lack in terms of money and members they make up for with enthusiastic volunteers. I went to my first local Reform meeting last week and met a lovely group of people who share my values and want to get our country working again. I suggest contributors here put their energy towards fighting for a better Britain, every bit helps.

      1. MFD
        September 22, 2024

        đŸ‘đŸ»âœ”ïž Im lookig forward to a bit of hard work, it will be worth it to leave my Great grand children a settled life!

  13. Sharon
    September 22, 2024

    I don’t think the government knows how to govern. They only have ideologies and no practical solutions. Some have described them as no better than a sixth form debating society.

    Plus, I still believe there are bad actors behind the scenes – with UN, WEF polices being pushed through that are harmful to a successful democracy.

    1. MFD
      September 22, 2024

      Yes Sharon, the wef , who , un are the lowlife influence we Brits have to destroy!
      we must from a law that stops any politician from signing any bit of paper before its been voted on by the populace!

  14. Paul Freedman
    September 22, 2024

    I believe Labour will have little success to be able to attribute to themselves in 2029. I don’t believe their woolly thinking will fix any of the problems we face today. In fact I believe economically they will actually be a hindrance and they will pay the price for that at the ballot box in the future.
    The Conservative party is actually is such a fortuitous position right now. It has a daft government in office letting the country down; it still has an ocean of potential support in the country (if it just appeals to it!) and it has the opportunity now to engage in first-class policy making and to be able to present a world-class manifesto to the British people in 2029.
    My choice of leader is resolved now to Robert Jenrick and I believe if we employ the policies he is suggesting we can win big at the next GE but more importantly than that we will fix the problems which are burdening our country.

    1. Christine
      September 22, 2024

      Why would voters believe anything a Tory says? They have lied for 15 years. Nothing will change with the rabble of MPs they currently have in the party. They have had their chance, and I will never vote for them in the future. They don’t even acknowledge where they went wrong and want to blame Reform for splitting the vote.

      1. Paul Freedman
        September 22, 2024

        Why wouldn’t voters believe anything a Tory says? Because the Conservative party lost its nerve around 2005 and confused ‘responsibility’ with ‘nastiness’ and became Wet as a result. People now suspect the Conservative party can’t dry out again but I think it can and that it will.
        For most of history, the Conservative Party has been a responsible party but there have always been periods when the Wets were in charge and they abandoned ‘responsibility’ and consequently made a hash of it every time (just like recent years). If the Conservative Party had been sufficiently dry since 2005 especially over tax, economic growth, immigration and standards in the public sector (and kept Boris too) they would have beaten Starmer in July.
        The Conservative party knows what it needs to do and I think there are signs it is doing it. If they don’t do it then Reform UK will replace them as the party which stands for responsibility, country, optimal immigration levels, tax optimisation, law and order and family.

        1. Christine
          September 22, 2024

          I disagree with keeping Boris. Under his watch, immigration was the highest it’s ever been, he championed the net-zero nonsense, he gave away Northern Ireland, he signed us up to a bad EU withdrawal agreement, he handled the pandemic very badly and he threw away an 80+ seat majority. Yes, he’s a good orator but he was a total failure as a leader and PM.

      2. MFD
        September 22, 2024

        well said Christine

  15. Mike Wilson
    September 22, 2024

    Once you are in government with a big majority and a mandate for change you are responsible.

    I wish people would stop saying things like that. Yes, they have a big majority of MPs, but only ONE PERSON IN FIVE voted for them. They were voted in by a trivial percentage of voters – this can surely not be described as a ‘mandate for change’.

    1. MFD
      September 22, 2024

      ✔ i agree!

    2. hefner
      September 22, 2024

      In July 2024 33.7% voted Labour on a turnout of 59.8%, ie 20.15% aka hardly 1 in 5 registered voters.
      In December 2019 43.6% voted Conservatives on a turnout of 67.3%, ie 29.3% aka not even 3 out of 10 RVs.
      In June 2017 42.3% voted Conservatives on a turnout of 68.8%, ie 29.1% aka not even 3 out of 10 RVs.
      In May 2015 36.9% voted Conservatives on a turnout of 66.4%, ie 24.5% aka not even 1 out of 4 RVs.

      In May 1997 43.2% Labour on a turnout of 71.3%, ie 30.8% a bitty more than 3 out of 10 RVs.
      In April 1992 41.9% C on a turnout of 77.7%, ie 32.5% not quite 3 out of 10 RVs.
      In June 1987, 42.2% C on a 75.3% T, ie 31.8% a bit more than 3 out of 10 RVs.
      In June 1983, 42.4% C on a 72.7% T, ie 30.8% a bitty more than 3 out of 10 RVs.
      In May 1979, 43.9% C on a 76% T, ie 33.36% yeah finally 1 out of 3 RVs.

      TMALSS, that’s the UK elective ‘dictatorship’ 
 and if the ministers then chosen by the PMs were all brilliant 

      But obviously ‘Hope springs eternal’: and the future Reform government will only be made of real, guaranteed geniuses.

  16. Mike Wilson
    September 22, 2024

    I wonder how many people on here are actively working to set up their local Reform Party organisation – so that effective local campaigning can begin. It’s how the Lib Dems won the constituency I am in.

    1. Donna
      September 22, 2024

      A Regional Organiser has been appointed for Dorset. I’ve made contact and I’ll be going to the regional event in Exeter on 9 Nov. Since it’s really no longer worth me working at my little job, I’m going to have a lot more free time 🙂

    2. Christine
      September 22, 2024

      I am. My husband and I went to our first local meeting last week. We delivered leaflets for our local council by-election. I’ll do as much as I can to save our country.

      1. Mike Wilson
        September 22, 2024

        Well done. I’d like to do the same but it would mean a divorce. Seriously.

        1. Christine
          September 22, 2024

          Luckily we share the same values and vision for this country.

  17. DOM
    September 22, 2024

    Socialism doesn’t do popularity, its purpose is destruction and reconstruction and this time the Socialists, Maoists and Marxists aren’t p***ing around. Blair laid the foundations of foundational change in 1997, Cameron endorsed that repugnant process and now Blair’s puppet is in power to finally finish the task.

    Who’s to blame? We know who’s to blame. It just requires Farage or someone of similar standing to accurately explain the poison we have seen since 1997.

  18. Josh
    September 22, 2024

    Don’t know how we can be proud of what the country is doing we are in a mess – Labour has inherited a mess and is daily making it worse – how can we fix brexit and all the upland things we were promised? It was all lies

  19. JM
    September 22, 2024

    After 14 years in opposition one might have thought there was a plan. Beyond the spiteful imposition of VAT on school fees it appears not.

  20. javelin
    September 22, 2024

    According to the OBR if an average low skilled migrant cost ÂŁ500,000 and there are 2 million of them, then it will cost the tax payer ÂŁ1,000,000,000,000 or One trillion pounds.

    This figure is an enormous under estimate because 70% of some ethnic groups wives do not work. Plus more migrants keep arriving. plus this excess cost needs interest. Plus this excess cost is not being invested in infrastructure or growth.

    I would guess the real figure is an order of magnitude higher than one trillion.

    The Government need to produce detailed and comprehensive numbers on the cost of low skilled migrantion to the tax payer.

    1. Mike Wilson
      September 22, 2024

      They’ll just tell you the spuds won’t get picked. Seems like expensive potatoes.

  21. oldwulf
    September 22, 2024

    “It’s time Labour behaved like a government.”

    On TV, whilst in opposition, Starmer was asked whom he would choose between Davos and Westminster – when in power.
    He said he would choose Davos.

    Perhaps this helps explain Starmer’s inability to behave like a Government.
    If they wish to survive, the Labour MPs will have some choices to make.

  22. William Long
    September 22, 2024

    I am afraid this is not surprising, and I do not think we are likely to see any improvement. Labour was born as a party of protest, against 19th and early 20th century employment practices, not as a party of Government for the long term. Nothing has changed in almost a century and a quarter, and the sort of behaviour you are describing is deeply embedded in its DNA. Labour will always look backward to yesterday’s problems rather than look forward and plan for a potentially better future.

  23. Donna
    September 22, 2024

    I’m not aware of a single Minister in the Labour Government who has created and run a successful company and/or gained any high-level experience in the private sector.

    They have no idea how to create growth; successfully reform a failing behemoth like the NHS; deliver reliable, secure and cost-effective energy; or prevent the slo-mo invasion of our country (which they don’t want to do anyway).

    As Mrs Thatcher so astutely commented “the trouble with today’s politicians is they make a speech and think they’ve achieved something. They haven’t ….”

    Two-Tier-Free-Gear-No-Idea-Keir and all of his Ministers come from the cossetted public sector where they don’t have to worry themselves about the practicality and deliverability of their policies because if they go wrong (ie every large-scale public sector project since Blair became PM), they will just shrug it off and tax more. (As did the Treacherous Tories from Cameron onwards).

  24. Christine
    September 22, 2024

    It’s been reported today that Milliband will introduce, from next April, a heat pump boiler quota similar to the devastating electric vehicle quota. Companies will be fined £3000 for every conventional boiler they sell which makes them miss the target. This policy is dangerous. Many households won’t be able to afford to replace their heating systems. If companies stop selling conventional boilers people will die. Having to wait a year to buy a car is inconvenient but having to wait a year to buy a gas boiler will be catastrophic.

    1. MFD
      September 22, 2024

      The only way now is to work tirelessly for Reform UK and then have them repeal all the total nonsense of Eddie knownothing Milliband the brainless

    2. Mickey Taking
      September 22, 2024

      we might be fined for not ordering a heat pump by 2028!

  25. Bryan Harris
    September 22, 2024

    For labour to behave as a real government, a government for all of the people of the UK would require that they approach issues in an unbiased professional manner. Yet they are so loaded down with dogma and hate, and the attitude that they know best anyway, that professionalism is the last thing we can expect from them.

    They impose rather than persuade, they create new laws against the people they are supposed to serve because at the end of the day they fear the little man in the street.

    For decades labour have been unfit to run our country due to their warped ideas, but whenever they did get in they made sure that socialist concepts would remain and grow. “Education, Education, Education,” Blair told us – he actually meant “Indoctrination, Indoctrination, Indoctrination” – the woke kind.

    Due to the way the liblabcon have conspired to make it almost impossible for new parties to make headway in the Commons, due to their inbuilt majority and hidden agreements, when we get fed up with one party we get one of the other 2 by default – so no change.

    The Tories were honest once, not that long ago, and labour still reckoned themselves to be the voice of the people. That all changed even before Thatcher was toppled, and other agendas came into play.

    The big question is how do we get rid of a rogue government that is actively working against the interests of the British people!

  26. Sir Joe Soap
    September 22, 2024

    Still in Corbyn mode.

  27. Ukretired123
    September 22, 2024

    Starmer has zero integrity and his fellow travellers have no clue how to fix things outside of politics.
    “Not fit for purpose” as demonstrated in their probationary time.
    They would be fired in their Apprentice showing en mass.

  28. ChrisS
    September 22, 2024

    The Conservatives have got to learn to accept that the 4.3m are not coming back to the party, and several million more who supported them in July, including me, won’t be voting for them at the next election either !

    The only way to defeat Labour and end up with a proper Conservative government is going to be a pact between the Conservatives and Reform. We have got to keep battering away at the Conservative party until they see sense. Nigel’s strategy is the right one : take a leaf from the Libdims playbook by concentrating on building a local presence and steal council seats fom the Conservatives and at the same time their five MPs need to punch considerably above their weight in Parliament. That will not be difficult, given the poor quality of Conservative and Labour MPs on the green benches.

    There are some local elections every year between now and 2029 and each one of them needs to show the conservatives hemorrhaging support to Reform. Only then might the Conservatives take fright and do a deal before the next General Election.

    1. Donna
      September 22, 2024

      The Welsh Senedd and Scottish Parliament elections are due in May 2026 and both use a system of PR, which will enable bridgeheads to be established before the next General Election.

  29. Original Richard
    September 22, 2024

    “So far we have an Opposition with a majority.”

    And an Opposition whose policies on the major issues of mass immigration and Net Zero are identical to those of the Government making it as useful as a chocolate teapot. So nothing has changed or will change. The changeover is seamless and we’re heading for the Sovietisation of the UK.

    Whilst it is possible for a country to vote its way into a Communist government it cannot vote its way out of one.

  30. Original Richard
    September 22, 2024

    “How will you deliver the promised £300 off home energy bills we ask?”

    Easy. Energy use and hence bills will be reduced by the lack of available energy as a result of the transition to renewables causing rolling blackouts. Further reductions will happen because many people will not be able to afford the transition to heat pumps, leaving them with only expensive resistive heating of single rooms when the gas is cut off.

    Road congestion will be solved by the forced transition to evs not only because of their expense, impracticality and liability to spontaneously explode restricting their use but also because local grid capacity is insufficient for more than 1 in 7 houses to have an ev charger.

    Net Zero is the equivalent of Stalin’s Lysenkoism and we’re on the path to the Sovietisation of our economy, living standards and freedoms.

    It’s time to have a referendum on Net Zero.

    1. Christine
      September 22, 2024

      Now energy companies are telling customers their old meters must inspected and if they aren’t working correctly be upgraded to smart meters. What’s the betting that all old meters fail the test? They need to control the blackouts by switching all homes to smart meters.

  31. Mickey Taking
    September 22, 2024

    Story by Glen Owen and Dan Hodges (Daily Mail)
    Not a happy staff in Downing St.

    The scale of the revolt against Chief of Staff Sue Gray inside Downing Street is unprecedented – and has set ‘the clock ticking’ down to her departure. Of the 12 senior civil servants who comprise the Prime Minister’s ­Private Office, three have already left, five have asked to be moved and the remaining four have downed tools and are threatening to quit.

    Sir Keir Starmer’s most senior aide, his Principal Private Secretary Elizabeth Perelman, has moved, as planned, to the Cabinet Office. But amid a barrage of negative publicity about ‘cronyism’ in the administration, Ms Gray has so far failed to install her preferred replacement, former colleague Daniel Gieve.

    1. Hat man
      September 22, 2024

      Daniel Gieve was described by Sky News as ‘an avowed pro-European who was involved in the doomed People’s Vote campaign that was aimed at overturning the result of the Brexit referendum’. So of course Sue Gray wants him influencing policy directions.

  32. James1
    September 22, 2024

    Unfortunately we are stuck with the shambles of a socialist government for the next nearly five years.

  33. Ian B
    September 22, 2024

    “You defend what the government is doing or you set out a detailed working plan of how to fix problems. You are proud of what the country is doing and highlight success, not look for everything bad to run down. If something needs improving then fix it.”
    The thrust of today’s post reflects on a wayward Labour Party, yet we have had Blair, Brown, May, Johnson, Sunak and now Starmer all following the lead of those they followed all with toxic person agendas. Our high taxes, borrowing, growing State, deliberately high energy costs, export industry an jobs and what myself and the man in the street appear to be in agreement on is the above crowd welcoming bribery and corruption as something that is acceptable. They are all the UniParty the embrace meant of WEF Socialism with orders taken from higher foreign power that none of us get to vote for, not one has been able to work with the people of the UK, not one of them is capable of listening and hearing. They have all been engaged in the ‘Great Reset’ seeking personal ultimate power.
    The out of hand tax and spending was foisted on us by the 2 Chancellors Sunak & Hunt. The ill conceived NetZERO Laws that do not exist with our competitors foisted on us by Mrs May with general agreement in Parliament.
    In essence they all pursued personal first agenda’s, disrespecting the electorate and all refusing to Manage the State have it working for the people that empowered and paid them.
    The rot is now deeper than just all the individuals involved, but with all those employed by us to challenge this acceptance of failure – all MPs

    1. Ian B
      September 22, 2024

      There was once what was called a Conservative Party that had integrity and managed the Country for and behalf of the People.
      Now we are in conference season and those with the collective responsibility for today’s and yesterdays corruptions, failures and growing burdens now think as representative of the ‘Continuity’ Cabal, their failures, their factional minority supporters they should be in a position to become an opposition leader potential PM. What they are not is middle of the road supporting the position of the UK’s majority, they all have at odds partisan standings that should alone discount them. How could any of them that have Starmer, Reeves, Miliband just picking up and following the agendas that they created suggest that more failure is possible with some mealy mouthed tokenism that they themselves have proved they lied about.

      1. hefner
        September 22, 2024

        Even if Tim Berners-Lee started his work on what was to become the Web at the beginning of the ‘90s, information going through two-way communications networks was only 1% in 1993, 51% in 2000, and got to 97% in 2007. It is within that period that Netscape, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Yahoo, Google, 
 appeared and developed becoming accessible to the public. It is only with 3G mobile network at the end of ‘00s that mobile phones started to appear and another ten years for almost 50% of the population of developed countries starting to use the new technology to look for and exchange information.

        Why this reminder? Simply to say that before these technologies became accessible to the public at large (post 2010), many people belonging to whatever political party could not follow the details of their policies, the actions of their politicians, nor commenting on social media (from the mid-‘10s) about the pros and cons of this or that politician.

        So to go dithyrambic about a past version of a party ‘having integrity and managing the country for and on behalf of the People’ is simply another case of the Good Olden Days that might not have been so good, simply because people could not access the information that would have allowed them to judge, and can only rely on ‘memories’.

        ‘The past is a foreign country’, ‘The Go-Between’, L.P. Hartley, 1953.

  34. William Smith
    September 22, 2024

    This Labour Government have made great strides since their elevation by the minority of the Electorate. (n.b. they love minorities) They have started to deprive us of Freedom of Speech, they have financially attacked our Pensioners whilst they have garnered £ thousands of ‘bribes’ or ‘sweeteners’. But probably the worst thing they have done is to close down the availability of information from Government Depts, there is little Freedom of Information left. By the end of their 5 years in charge Britain will have morphed into a version of East Germany with a Border Control keeping us in and keeping us quiet rather than keeping people out.

  35. Derek
    September 22, 2024

    The revelations over the past week have proven that this lot are no better than the last lot, when it comes to sleaze. In fact it seems they are worse. Which Tory PM actually took clothing from a donor?
    This really says it all about Starmer. He’s in it for what HE can get out of and damn the country. Will we really have to wait another five years to remove this person from power?

  36. DOM
    September 22, 2024

    We don’t want this government to become competent. If it becomes competent then that would encourage the idiots to vote for them again. God almighty, haven’t they imposed enough damage upon us since 1997.

    Can’t our kind host not see just dangerous Labour have become?

    I see Bill Cash has been writing total bollox in the DT today accusing Farage of betraying Brexit. How the hell can Farage betray Brexit when he’s not even in power? It is this filthy deceit that has made the Tory party so repugnant.

    1. Derek
      September 23, 2024

      Well said and it is so surprising coming from Bill Cash, who was an original promoter of Brexit and one of the “bar stewards” Major came up against during his crusade to have our country run by unelected foreigners. \Whatever has altered his mind?

  37. mancunius
    September 22, 2024

    Sir John, it seems clear that these threats of draconian punishment for taxpayers and predictions of catastrophe are all deliberately intended. Performative cruelty is the new normal. Only by having everyone in fear and trembling can the New Order be installed. The restrictions and accompanying threats of ‘Covid’ were just the start.

  38. Original Richard
    September 22, 2024

    Sir John’s post for 20/05/2019 “The reign of experts and the “post democratic”age”” describes our current position where our representatives in Parliament are giving away their powers and responsibilities. Peter Mandelson said we were now in a post democratic age and it is clear that Oppositions and Governments no longer exist.

    The previous administration oversaw massive immigration unopposed by the “Opposition” and now we will see the sabotaging of the economy and the destruction of our wealth using the unopposed Net Zero Strategy. The transition from Blue to Red is seamless apart from some arguments about suits, frocks and glasses.

    Voting for the same Con/Lab/Lib Dem/Green parties over and over again, expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity.

  39. glen cullen
    September 22, 2024

    707 irregular immigrants arrived in the UK yesterday from the safe country of France 
..presumably all trying to attend the labour conference …..dear god, didn’t anybody see the 11 boats (not so small) full to the brim with an average of 65 per boat

    1. Mickey Taking
      September 23, 2024

      Thats over 24,000 landing this year so far.

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