Whilst Labour MPs were undermining their government over its clumsy welfare cuts, another UK refinery went bankrupt.
A hand wringing Labour Minister blamed the management and promised to get involved in either finding a new owner who thinks they could turn a profit, or looking at some other use for the site. This latter offer implies acceptance that 440 good industrial jobs will go as the refinery closes. The Minister claimed credit for a government meeting with the industry prior to this collapse. Clearly the likely meeting messages from the industry about high energy costs were ignored by a government determined to deindustrialise us to hit unrealistic carbon targets.
The predictable collapse of refineries, ceramics, vehicle manufacture, petrochemicals and other energy dependent industries is proceeding apace. The government sheds crocodike tears and blames others. The prime cause is sky high energy prices. The main cause of them is the high taxes and subsidies needed to supercharge decarbonisation. It makes us hopelessly uncompetitive. It also adds to world CO 2 in a cruel irony of total policy failure.
July 2, 2025
Good morning.
We are not far off the tipping point. 2030 is closing in and we are staring at an end of a country that helped build the world.
People will soon learn that, shuffling bits of paper around or importing people to deliver their food is unsustainable.
I just hope that, when the inevitable comes and markets realise that the music has to stop, whoever is in numbers 10 and 11 have the head of the IMF on speed dial.
July 2, 2025
I think the tipping point will arrive before 2030. We have just had a further confirmation, if any were needed, that in this administration socialist dogma trumps all other demands on the tax base. I doesn’t matter how large the budget deficit runs, must keep the handouts flowing. We are heading for a crashing stop.
Stock up on candles, batteries and anything to heat your home this winter!
July 2, 2025
+1
July 2, 2025
I never use take-away delivery, if I order take-away away I pick it up myself. London and big city people seem to have become so lazy that they’ll be wondering why they’re getting obese.
July 2, 2025
Best avoided in general even if you pick them up!
July 2, 2025
Indeed.
A budget for growth Reeves said but everything she did was anti-growth in every way.
JR says “The predictable collapse of refineries, ceramics, vehicle manufacture, petrochemicals and other energy dependent industries is proceeding apace. The government sheds crocodike tears and blames others. The prime cause is sky high energy prices.” Indeed but other causes too – restrictive employments laws, over taxation, the insane workers rights bill, the prospect of four more years of Starmer, Miliband, Rayner and insane energy and economic policies, expensive housing, slow planning, OTT health and safety… This all was approved of by Cameron, May, Boris, Sunak and support is largely continued by Kemi!
July 2, 2025
LL, I endorse your comment and its coda on the conservatives serial slow trashing of so much that we had believed in, and with no remorse or evidence of any dawning realisation.
July 2, 2025
That and suing each other and with endless more tax accountants, lawyers, health and safety, HR experts, sustainability experts…
July 2, 2025
quote “So long as you can keep disagreeing with each other violently enough and maligning each other in the popular press, and so long as you have clever agents, you can keep yourselves on the gravy train for life,”
From Ford Prefect in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. The late, great, Douglas Adams.
We’re living in a black comedy…
July 2, 2025
+1
July 2, 2025
And to reinforce my last comment:
The BBC Complaints Director Colin Tregear has enrolled on the green grooming course run as a six-month sabbatical by the Oxford Climate Journalism Network (OCJN). The course is funded by the Green Blob and aims to make the ‘climate crisis’ a central element in the journalism of the attendees.
As noted by the Daily Sceptic. Did someone say dystopian gravy-train? BBC – leading the way down the toilet bowel.
July 2, 2025
+1
July 2, 2025
The British Establishment is obviously aiming to make the UK the first western country to “level down” and rejoin the 3rd world, because that’s what UN Agenda 2030 requires and what they’re determined to do.
The Net Zero Insanity was put on steroids by the Not-a-Conservative-Party under May and Johnson, which is just as culpable for the collapse of our industrial base as Miliband and The-Shirkers-Not-the-Workers-Party.
Whole industries destroyed; hundreds of thousands of decent jobs gone; the welfare bill increasing and people’s lives ruined …. all so that the British Establishment can virtue-signal to the world about a CO2 reduction which will make not a scrap of difference to the climate.
“Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.”
July 2, 2025
Donna :
Correct.
July 2, 2025
Is this the being ‘world leaders’ like the Saudi Arabia of Wind and ‘others will follow our lead’ our inept PM’s keep on talking about? Can’t see others following this lunacy. The obvious question is why? Who is getting what out of it. There must be some bungs somewhere.
July 2, 2025
The whole renewable industry and Net Zero just seems to be a way to syphon taxpayers subsidies for nonsense into private pockets. Doubtless a process suitably lubricated with donations and “consultancy” fees.
July 2, 2025
Makes me want to cry, but that is so passé atm.
July 4, 2025
Lots of us have ‘tough days’ under this Government and Chancellor.
Makes me want to cry.
July 2, 2025
Donna, ++++
July 2, 2025
All goung swimmingly. Nissan shedding 250 jobs up north because they can’t sell their overpriced electric cars.
Soon we’ll be Importing all our petrochemicals and no doubt milibrains will be able to blame inflation on the volatility of international prices.
Many small engineering companies near me are teetering on the verge of bankruptcy and one of two ethanol producers is going under because 2TK is allowing large amounts of duty free in from America under his one sided trade agreement.
The Humber area will soon become an industrial wasteland just like the north east and soon Aberdeen.
Government is fixing the foundations my arris.
July 2, 2025
Sir John this collapse is down to politicians of all parties over the past half century.. The Time of Mrs T in particular. Don’t need to make things we can support the country on Service Industries. So we have to import much more than we produce ourselves. We can’t blame Mrs T for Net zero and overpopulation but the politicians that followed her who collectively have done far more damage to the long term economy of this country.
Rightly or wrongly Mrs T did did put the UK first unlike the Political Elite we have today.
Reply The Labour government of the 1970 s closed more mines and industrial plant than under Thatcher.
July 2, 2025
JM
For those who remember Red Robbo, it looks like his successors have nearly won.
Money for producing next to nothing seems to be the mantra now, and if you can pretend to do it from home so much the better.
No wonder those with money are leaving the UK and Europe in general.
Socialism is winning, it will only stop when the debt is impossible to pay off, as we have already run out of day-day spending money.
July 2, 2025
Reply reply. I notice ignore about being a service economy, like taking in others peoples washing, not crude stuff like tin bashing which she deplored.
July 2, 2025
It’s cooler this morning. Over the past few days Mrs Gold and I have enjoyed the air conditioning that I had the foresight to install in 2022. The 2.5kw Fujitsu unit that my builder put in runs on free electricity from the solar panels on the roof.
According to Scottish Power, with whom I have a 20-year contract to buy surplus juice from the solar panels, they produced 45% of my electricity needs in 2024. You don’t get as much output from them in the winter because the days are shorter.
July 2, 2025
They won’t be powering your heat pump unfortunately.
July 2, 2025
Nothing to say about the hundreds of thousands of jobs the Net Zero insanity is destroying?
July 3, 2025
Obviously not 🙂 There’s nothing like “I’m all right Jack to win friends and influence others.”
July 2, 2025
SG. They won’t be powering anything during rolling power cuts unless you have very expensive switching arrangements to let you go off grid. You must have a very large house and solar system to power 2.5kw especially when it’s dark.
July 2, 2025
….and according to the met-office it was the hottest June ever …so how come solar is only prividing 20% of national grid energy https://grid.iamkate.com/
July 2, 2025
oh dear …..at 8pm it went to zero 0% solar
July 2, 2025
I assume you have taken account of what you have paid out for their acquisition and installation? Could you fill us in so we get a complete picture please? A friend of mine who went for solar panels has found they weren’t quite the bargain the sales guy promised.
July 2, 2025
Is anything what the sales guy promises? Or what the politicians promise?
Google the storm damage to the ones in Anglesea or the hail stone damage. Finance interest, cleaning, depreciation, extra insurance…on top.
July 2, 2025
Solar panels in the southern UK need about 5 years to even become CO2 net saving. In the short terms they push up CO2 and even this is probably an underestimate as connections, storage and back up are usually needed. Best hope the hail or storm does not arrive too quickly!
July 2, 2025
Wow, what a genius. Puts us all to shame, Lucky you’ve got the funds to do it while we pensioners had our fuel allowance stopped and were cold last year. Self praise is no recommendation my old dad used to say.
July 3, 2025
I installed blinds in every room (I’m good at DIY). They keep the sun out when it gets very hot and keep the house cool, and they keep the house a bit warmer in the winter. The total cost was about £200.
Oh, and they don’t use any electricity.
July 3, 2025
They use exterior shutters in most of Europe, they do not need electricity to work either, sometimes the simple methods like yours, and solar blinds are the most economic solution.
Shutters also have the benefit of extra security.
July 2, 2025
@ Sakira – Well Solar does produce electricity mainly in summer when the sun is out and this also when you need aircon in hot countries also for heating the pool. Indeed you can cool the house and heat the pool with the heat extracted from the house. So this can work well.
But in England a well designed house should not need air con. Even a poorly designed house in a concrete jungle only needs it for a handful of days. Most electricity is needed in winter evenings in the UK so solar panels pretty useless for that. You cannot realistically store the electricity for six months!
45% of you electricity needs from you panels you say. Fine but this electricity is not “free” you have finance costs, depreciation, cleaning, maint, insurance for hail stones, fires…Also you are I assume fron this 45% you are not using EVs (or not much) and heating using gas, oil, solidfuel not electricity?
July 2, 2025
SG I’m assuming you live in the far south. Anywhere above Hampstead is now below the ‘viability’ line taking into account reducing subsidies.
Our house has been cool in the warm summer temperatures. Due to Polybead wall insulation, 6 inches of floor insulation, k-glass and serious roof insulation. It keeps the heat out as well as in. We also have a heat exchange system (I have had one since 1988), but of course that will stop working when the juice stops flowing. However the insulation is passive and will continue working.
July 3, 2025
Well insulation will only keep heat out for a while and over long hot spells it can make things worse as less cooling at night and as you have heat inside the building coming from people, water heaters, cooking, wifi, tvs, computers… that is kept in. But in the UK aircon should surely not be needed in a well designed house. Some flats in London perhaps with windows to the south with no through draft perhaps.
July 2, 2025
Energy and other policies are such that the country no longer feels ours or unique in any way. In the next ten years there will be another EU membership referendum when the UK will vote to rejoin with a substantial majority, for a number of reasons: the economy will be in tatters such that the UK would be a net recipient of EU funds; we will be highly dependent on imported energy via the gas and electricity interconnectors, the EU having used this to further our dependence on it; maintaining our currency will seem almost an irrelevance given the scale of the economic and cultural problems; the young will have been thoroughly indoctrinated with the view that Brexit has caused our woes.
Many of those who voted for Leave in 2016 will vote Rejoin.
July 2, 2025
The EU won’t let us back in as a Nett recipient. I voted Remain bur would certainly vote to Leave in another referendum.
The EU is going to have its own existential problems with Net Zero and energy in the very near future. It is full of politicians like our own.
July 2, 2025
People don’t realise that the EU policies for Net Zero are worse than ours. The media continues to paint a false, rosy picture of the EU, failing to show its downsides.
Starting 1 January 2030, a new EU-driven legal requirement will be enforced across Spain, mandating that all residential properties entering the market—whether for sale or rent—must have an energy efficiency certificate with at least an ‘E’ rating. And this is just the beginning: by 2033, that minimum standard will rise to a ‘D’ rating.
Failing to meet the required energy standard won’t just leave a property unsellable or unrentable—it might also cost landlords dearly. Draft laws discussed at regional level suggest fines could reach as high as €60,000 for violations, particularly for landlords trying to skirt the rules and lease non-compliant homes. Currently, it’s estimated 85% of homes fail to meet the required E-rated standard.
Currently, the UK is just targeting private rental properties, but how long will it be before they also target homeowners? This is all part of the WEF’s “You will own nothing”.
July 2, 2025
I don’t want to sound ‘even worse than usual’ but a E rating for a property in Spain must be relatively easy to get given that the EU rating scale (Energy Performance Certificate) goes from A to G.
E corresponds to a score between 39 and 54 (on a 0-100 scale) ‘Below average, improvements likely needed to improve energy bills’.
I know of a 100 sqm property built in 1800, which once tested was given a D without anything being done to it apart doubling the curtains on the six windows and putting a draft excluder to the entrance door: total cost about 400 euros. And that amount is half the rent for a week in summer.
July 2, 2025
Christine the U.K. has similar plans. Anything rated F will not be lettable and G means ‘not fit for human habitation and therefore unsellable.
The reason many holiday homes are sticking is due to bad EPC ratings.
Incidentally my 4 shops built in 1932 by the Atkinson’s grandfather have been related C, B, C, C. They are identical and there is no explanation for the B rating.
July 2, 2025
I think you’re 180 degrees out. When the true cost of EU membership is known and don’t for one minute think they would let us join as a recipient, even the thickest amongst us, and there are many will be hostile to the EU.
Per capita in the EU had barely changed since the financial crash but the USA is up nearly 50%. The EU takes people worse off.
July 2, 2025
That is the pro EU Establishment / Globalists’ aim and I believe Two-Tier is deliberately wrecking the economy and driving us into the arms of the IMF.
A bailout from the IMF will come with strings attached: Rejoin the EU, scrap Sterling and adopt the Euro.
July 2, 2025
No you are wrong. That would not be the criteria. After all the Euro economies are in worse condition that ourselves – unbelievable I know, but true.
July 2, 2025
Yesterday on the “PM” show on radio 4 the BBC were reporting on two attempts to bring in legislation to cut the welfare bill.
For the one in the UK, they worried about the cost to the economy if the bill didn’t pass yet they had the opposite reaction to the same attempt in the U.S.
Their bias was laid bare.
Similar with environmental reporting: it’s a pity that so many people, like Mr Milliband, have been taken in by media propaganda. This kiddies politics approach will cause job losses on a massive scale as we move into the economic dark ages.
July 2, 2025
All this political capital in reducing the welfare bill. Why did the Labour government feel a need to do it when Rachel from Complaints has fixed the economy?
July 2, 2025
The predictable collapse of refineries, ceramics, vehicle manufacture, petrochemicals and other energy dependent industries is proceeding apace. The government sheds crocodike tears and blames others.
And of course your party is blameless in the collapse of the tooth and nail of the heavy and light industries that built this once Great Country , you along with the rest of your cronies through the 60s 70s 80s 90s and so on have a lot to answer for the decline of our once Great Country that’s why the people are turning away from the two main parties and about time too
July 2, 2025
But Mad Ed and 2TK will be pleased to see refineries and cement works go because they produce naughty plant food. We will stop using petrol and houses will be made if mud, while the workers will be busy replacing the thousands of worn out rusty wind turbines every 18 years. It’s all covered by international law.
July 2, 2025
Yep – expect new training courses and apprenticeships in mud and straw building.
July 2, 2025
Lindsey is the smallest of the UK’s oil refineries producing fuel. It is located next to the Phillips 66 Humber refinery, which is the dominant fuel supplier in the region and continues to operate at profit.
Lindsey is a very old refinery built in 1968 and in the past when it was owned by the French oil major Total, made huge profits. Total sold it because the cost of maintenance and the investment needed to keep it running was affecting their bottom line. Prax Lindsey Oil Refinery Limited, which owns the plant in Immingham, NE Lincolnshire, was never able to turn a profit and Lindsey has lost about £75 million since they bought it in 2021
As more EVs are sold in the UK it is inevitable that the fossil fuel industry will sell less petrol and diesel. Their howls of protest and their incessant anti-renewables propaganda get louder and more desperate by the week.
July 2, 2025
“As more EVs are sold in the UK….” There seems to be two flaws in this statement SG.
The first is that (in practice) not that many private buyers seem to want them. The second (and more acute) problem is that increasingly, no one will able to afford a new car (of any kind). We are all going to be busy paying for a completely out of control State Benefits system. Of course, as that includes the Motability scheme, I guess it will include free EVs for everyone too.
As the Summers become warmer, perhaps the UK will start to more closely resemble Cuba. Lazy days, long siestas spent googleing what you can claim for an ingrown toenail, whilst polishing your 30 year old ICE vehicle that you cannot afford to drive anywhere….
July 2, 2025
SG
I don’t hear these “howls” you speak of.
Perhaps it is because (since 2000) diesel and petrol sales are up.
And major oil companies are investing many hundreds of millions in providing charging points on their forecourts and service stations.
July 2, 2025
Who wants to sit around on a garage forecourt charging their car for hours?
July 2, 2025
I’m collecting my new ICE car next month. I’m hoping it will see me through if necessary. Else it’s back to the stables and genuine horse power.
I want EV cars to be charged their proper insurance risk, atm they are not allowed to be ‘discriminated against’ so we all see our car insurance costs going through the roof.
July 2, 2025
Let us hope that some of our global market leaders like JCB, Rolls Royce and Renishaw are still competitive at the end of this Parliament.
Even small businesses are considering offshoring in today’s business environment.
July 2, 2025
Small businesses are even looking to AI solutions for marketing, customer services, digital advertising solutions and computerised cad design, AI illustrations and logo designs. It’s getting quite alarming.
July 2, 2025
It is junior doctors and the like who should be really worried about the growth of AI, the only advantage the human will bring is bedside manner and in my experience that is severely lacking in many cases. Lawyers are a juicy target also.
July 2, 2025
I agree dixie, people laugh at me when I say that but how many GPs do you see now putting your symptoms in the computer to aid analysis. Blood tests analysed by AI are said to be getting very accurate. Plus if you spend a lot of time in hospital, you soon see the orderlies (healthcare assistants) are the ones running around doing the bulk of the care.
July 2, 2025
Sir John
The answer to most things that are impediment to the Country “its the economy stupid!”. As as real today as it ever was.
All the ‘give-aways’ and that is what is happening a trigger-happy egotistical Legislator led by a shower of political ideologues calling themselves a government, think throwing other people’s money away is managing the economy.
Clearly the majority in the HoC and the HoL have never had to earn money they have had a life of feeding of other people’s endeavours. In the real World, look at the World outside of this tiny domain called the UK as well as those left still productive in the Country, they all have things in common, they know how to ‘budget’, they know to fund things and how income has to be earned. As is often said here and elsewhere Tax is not earnings, that is removal of money, the seed-corn of enterprise and growth from the economy, its is malicious punishment of the People.
Yesterday’s bizarre happenings in the HoC had one sector demand that the 10% of the Country already paying 60% of all UK income tax need to pay more. That is what is called fare and equitable Socialism, when they all leave the Country who pays?
July 2, 2025
If you call her Stupid she will cry and you might be jailed for upsetting her.
July 2, 2025
This Prime Minister and government appear to have one mission, mandated by their globalist masters, which is to ruin the UK. In just one year they have made good progress but, sadly for us, there is still more to do and no one seems prepared or capable of stopping them taking us to the abyss.
July 2, 2025
Our decline have been going on for decades now John as you well know.
It is only becoming obvious to many now, because it is accelerating fast towards the inevitable tipping and disaster point of no return.
You simply cannot run an economy on people buying and selling coffee to each other on the high street.
Soon the charity shops (with discounted rent and rates) will outnumber the commercial businesses.
July 2, 2025
Phone shops, charity shops, nail bars and turkish barbers combined already seem to do so.
The city boys who were supposed to be a source of capital to drive the economy make money on any transaction going in any direction, governments and politicians set far too much store in them and the services-led economy bullshit.
July 2, 2025
You pay the Charity shops to occupy your vacant shops so that you don’t have to pay the business rates. Landlords of empty shops have to pay the business rates just when they lose their income. Enough to make you cry! When I asked my (Tory) MP to put this right he said they could not because it was ‘unaffordable’. It sure is unaffordable!
July 2, 2025
With industries closing and high wealth leaving where exactly does the government think it’s much spoken about focus and priority growth, going to come from?
The state debt/borrowing is at an unacceptably high peace time level of 100% of GDP. The reduction of employment now evidenced from the ONS figures show the Chancellors policies are stifling employment. That decline in work opportunity, aided by the Deputy Prime Ministers employment rights, making taking staff on too risky for the Private Sector. But not a problem for the Public sector who never have any fear of going broke.
The growth of state activity and active destruction of private enterprise will not produce growth it will simply increase debt.
Is the doom loop now government policy? Review of the benefit system now impossible and open invitation extended to any and every person living on the planet to come and join us. Where exactly does the government imagine the wealth needed to accommodate those coming here will come from?
July 2, 2025
‘The collapse of industry continues apace’ Yes.
The lesson learned yesterday by the UK’s 650 MP’s along with their 800 unaccountable unelected pals in the Lords, it takes more than 50% of them to approve and sanction the actions of the Government for things to happen. It takes 50% of them to agree to take money from the economy. Its takes 50% of them to punish the UK with high energy costs and the associated malicious punishment, so on and so on. They have the responsibility for what government does and the direction it is taking the Country.
As such the dire straits of UK Industry is their collective responsibility, no one else’s.
It is their decision to isolate the UK from the World; it was their choice to export industry and jobs. It is their collective choice and responsibility that the economy is not managed but destroyed, it is their choice that we are importing criminals. It is their choice that they send UK Taxpayer money abroad, for it never to return, circulate and feed the economy. Their Choice!
They are the UK’s Legislators; there is no other legitimate law maker in the World that can affect this Nation other than this handful of individuals. Until this crowd wake-up and get a grip put the Nation first, before their ego and personal self-esteem, before their political religion and their gang boss. They need to recognise who empowered them (obviously not the Lords, they live in a cuddly world of dotage with no creditability), but for all of them who is paying them? It is not government, the treasury – it is the Taxpayer. Kill off the taxpayer, you kill the Country then were has all their refusal of responsibility got us?
It only takes half of them to want to move the country forward and it will.
July 2, 2025
“The predictable collapse of refineries, ceramics, vehicle manufacture, petrochemicals and other energy dependent industries is proceeding apace.”
This is not an unfortunate consequence of the false communist CAGW hoax and its Net Zero “solution”. It is a deliberate feature designed to sabotage our energy and then our whole economy and democracy. Our whole Establishment is culpable for this unilateral suicide. There is no historical evidence to link global temperature with the level of CO2. CO2 at only 280ppm did not cause hippos to wallow in the Thames, nor cause the cooling into the following ice age, nor our warming to exit 11,000 years ago when CO2 was at 180ppm and just 30ppm above the minimum level for plants and all life on the planet to survive. Nor can CO2, let alone anthropogenic CO2, explain why receding glaciers in BC/Canada are revealing 7000 year old tree stumps when CO2 was again at only 280ppm. There is no science linking CO2 to global temperature. Happer & Wijngaarden have shown using the IPCC’s own greenhouse gas radiative warming theory that we have already sufficent CO2 in the atmosphere to give all the warming feasible. A phenomenon known as saturation, even endorsed by the Royal Society, so adding additional CO2 makes little diffrence, if any. Even the IPCC can only calculate a warming of 1.2 degrees C for a doubing of CO2 (WG1 P95). And Shula & Ott make a compelling case that there is no greenhouse gas warming effect at all at the planet’s surface because of thermalisation. This madness needs to stop before we become a third world country.
July 2, 2025
All the result of net-0 policies, and another way to force us onto electric cars, if we can afford them.
There is no way for the economy and industry to go anywhere but down with a government pushing a death wish on us. They intend to wipe out the UK in every possible way because of their deranged thinking – even they cannot imagine that continually raising taxes will have the effect of creating wealth!
The sad part of this is that so many good people have been beguiled and deceived over alleged climate change when there is no link between the alleged increase of Co2 and the weather. The BBC indoctrination service has a lot to answer for.
HMG bulldozes ahead with it’s destructive policies as though they had a mandate to do so – they certainly do not have, and very soon the tide of acceptance will turn against them.
July 2, 2025
Might there be any connection I wonder between the wealth UK industry generates and the ability of the UK to provide welfare transfers to various classes of its citizens, at least beyond the short run? If so, is there any prospect of this being widely recognized and even informing policy?
July 2, 2025
5 days ago even the BoE govenor warns of growing signs of slowdown in uk jobs market
Nissan seeking voluntary uk job cuts
Jaguar
Lotus plans to end UK sportscar productions 1,300 jobs
Weir Group axing jobs in a bid to cut costs 400 jobs
Burberry may cut uk jobs as profits fall
Microsoft cutting a signifcant number of sales jobs 200 maybe up to 300
Baker Hughes cut your pension or they’ll have to cut jobs
Retail and Hospitality sectors have shed 150,000 jobs since the budget ‘Bloomberg’,
Allianz UK set to cut 650 jobs by end of 2025 and other insurance companies are shedding jobs.
The Grocery Gazette reported that six supermarkets are cutting jobs and costs in 2025 since March 2025. Slashing jobs, cafes
Construction job losses rocketed from March.
Yet Lloyds Banking group are saying their businesses are feeling upbeat and Labour MPs are jumping on that to share, they represent about 15% of UK businesses.
July 2, 2025
Lloyds down 4% today after concerns about the Chancellor at PMQs
https://order-order.com/2025/07/02/the-crying-game-chancellors-emotional-breakdown-caps-week-of-government-chaos/
July 2, 2025
Rolling Stones ‘Emotional rescue. 1980.
Yeah, I was dreamin’ last night baby
Last night I was dreamin’ that you’d be mine
But I was cryin’ like a child
Yeah I was cryin’, cryin’ like a child
Could be mine, mine, mine, mine, mine all mine
You could be mine, could be mine, could be mine all mine
I come to you, so silent in the night
So stealthy, so animal quiet
I’ll be your savior, steadfast and true
I’ll come to your emotional rescue
I’ll come to your emotional rescue
Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
Yeah, you should be mine, mine, ooh!
Mmm yes, you could be mine, tonight and every night
I will be your knight in shining armor
Coming to your emotional rescue
You will be mine, you will be mine, all mine
You will be mine, you will be mine, all mine
I will be your knight in shining armor.
More lies and deceit from Starmer?
July 2, 2025
Telegraph
“Zero-hours contracts
Employers will be required to offer workers on zero-hours and low-hours contracts a contract with guaranteed hours, reflecting the number of hours the workers regularly worked during a reference period (expected to be 12 weeks).”
The point of zero hours contracts are people only work when a) they’re available if there is work to cover and b) it is at peak times. They are used by students and the retired who don’t claim benefits in order to provide a top up income. Work will have to be turned down on the busiest days and you can’t guarantee hours you don’t know you have to work. This is mad.
July 2, 2025
“Probation
The government will consult on a statutory probation period for new hires, with a “lighter touch” approach to letting an employee go during the probation period if the role is not working out.”
If someone is failing their six-month probation due to too many unresolved issues, can you extend it by three months, or is that it? Should they be cut, or does it mean you lose the ability to remove them after passing through a six-month probation?
July 2, 2025
Where there is no vision, the people perish! We have a lame duck, weak PM who tolerates mediocrity in his Ministers, so that’s what we get! Ed Miliband should be tried for treason as he wrecks UK Industry pursuing the false goal of Net Zero, which will never be reached!
The PM has a wishbone, not a backbone, and has been shown up for his total lack of character, lack of any firm beliefs, and determination to bankrupt the UK.
That is his policy, and it is deliberate; he hates the UK and has no pride in our history or the unique talents of the people.
July 2, 2025
Importing fuel, energy and products which require lots of energy to manufacture, is all part of the plan to achieve Net Zero.
By the strange accounting rules that apply, the UK doesn’t include such imports onto our CO2 totals.
They are added onto the CO2 totals of the countries we purchase from.
So that is how we will eventually be seeing excited politicians telling us how clever they are to have got us to the Net Zero target.
Whilst world CO2 totals will have gone up.
What a farce it all is.
July 2, 2025
MiB :
The plan is that once our industry has been destroyed and we import almost everything then they will be counting our individual CO2 consumption emissions. Very shortly CBAM will be introduced as a starter. Read the CCC Carbon Budgets and Absolute Zero.
July 2, 2025
The collapse has been going on for decades and while governments have a large responsibility they, politicians and civil servants, are not the only ones to blame – consumers, unions and management all played a starring role but the city especially killed things off.
July 2, 2025
Cheaper energy alone is not a solution as our industries were dying before the disproportionate hikes in energy prices.
So what are the solutions?
July 3, 2025
Ask AI . How a manhattan project to release all our energy resources, removing most of the rentiers Would impact a) living standards b) pollution & environment c) EROEI and other large impacts in order.
So then wonder why we dont have even the illusion of a functional democracy?
July 2, 2025
440 criminals were smuggled, into the UK yesterday on the 1st July from the safe country of France…and its only the start of summer, maybe if we give France more money ?
July 2, 2025
What will be the terrible event that finally forces the Civil Service to take action to stop this invasion?
July 3, 2025
Smuggled, or given a “free” ferry ride courtesy of the British Government?
Let’s be a bit more honest about the invasion: they are not being smuggled here. They are waiting in France for their place on a dinghy and are then collected by the British Government and brought here for a life of “free everything.”
It’s being done deliberately.
July 2, 2025
Re the final comment about CO2:
“Please forgive me now for quoting some ridiculously accurate figures but this is what they tell us. Global mean temperature in 2010 was 1.04 deg C above the 1850-1900 global average. In 2024 it was 1.53 above.
Increase over 15 years: 0.49 deg C.
That half degree is well within errors contained in however many of the world’s 11,000 surface weather stations are Class 3, 4 or 5 [ie substandard and unreliable]. Going on UK and US experience, there must be quite a lot.
Forget the current talk of heat domes and claims of historic highs. Is the world really warming up, I wonder?“
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/wonky-data-behind-the-global-warming-message/
July 2, 2025
Met-Office own data suggests our temp hasn’t changed since records dating back 1659
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/07/02/hottest-june-more-met-office-misinformation/#more-87512
July 2, 2025
I agree the collapse has been going on for decades probably since the time of the ‘english sickness’ in the 1970’s – as the continentals called it – it was a time of Britisn worker strikes – but you didn’t notice the danger then because you were still cushioned to a certain extent by the tail end of empire. It was only at the end of the 70’s a few years after entry into the EEC/EU that the family silver was sold off ie. merchant shipping companies and ports industry etc and also manufacturing were downsized or closed up and Agriculture came under the CAP / fishing was also hit. But the biggest mistake was with the new circumstance in not planning for the aftermath of Brexit and now the long talked about difficulty is staring – sad really looking at the HOC on TV today to see the Chancellor reduced so – a lovely person I have no doubt – trying to do her best for the country being heckled from a side that never cared for country and still doesn’t care. From an outsider point it is all too easy to see.
July 3, 2025
The Chancellor has performed abysmally … unsurprising since she “embellished” her CV and is not remotely qualified for the job she holds. Over the last 10 months she is responsible for creating stagflation; destroying countless SMEs; putting thousands out of work and driving the seriously wealthy out of the country … which means the middle class will be fleeced even more to fund Labour’s profligacy and idiotic policies.
She sat there weeping at the utter shambles she and Two-Tier have presided over. I have far more sympathy for all of those affected by their incompetence. As for “being female and expecting sympathy” … I dislike that as much as I dislike the race card being played when someone is being held to account for their actions.
July 2, 2025
They aren’t stupid so the question is why are Starmer’s Gang deliberately destroying Britain? Why do they hate it so much?
July 2, 2025
That of which you write is merely a symptom of a much wider malaise. The cure of this malaise requires a fundamental change in politics, because all three main parties have proved themselves quite incapable of government. The present bunch of wanabies and weaponised fanatics are confirming their incompetence on a daily basis. Not only are they incapable of governing, but I would suggest that a politicised and equally incompetent civil service have stolen the toolbox of government, but having done so, find themselves equally incapable.
A new party of very high quality management talents must take over and carry out the task of bringing the CS to a quality level equal to that of any successful company currently profitable. Current government isn’t even fire fighting. In manny instances they cannot even smell the smoke. Minister must return to a position of direct responsibility with hire and fire authority. Only then will the infrastructure of GB be seen to be working.
July 2, 2025
We had good capable people at the head of politics in this cointry once but the schemers and charlatans lost them or otherwise sidelined them along the way. Result is that newer bright types are not coming forward – the dunces are in control all parties. We are not being properly represented and If anyone thinks that Reform will make the difference? It’ll be worse worse
July 2, 2025
+1
July 2, 2025
Sir John
It would appear Guido is also engaged on your thread on ‘mobility’
https://order-order.com/2025/07/02/exc-motability-scandal-deepens-as-600-million-worth-of-free-cars-go-to-people-with-stress-generalised-anxiety-and-tennis-elbow/
Fresh figures quietly released in response to a Parliamentary Question reveal that in 2024 alone, £600 million was funnelled from the Department for Work and Pensions straight into the Scheme.
Reasons for Taxpayer funded cars!
• Food intolerance: 20 cars.
• Failure to thrive: 10 cars.
• Tourettes: 230 cars.
• Frozen shoulder: 150 cars.
• Drug misuse: 220 cars.
• Alcohol misuse: 770 cars.
• Generalised anxiety: 1,030 cars.
• Stress: 20 cars.
• Depressive disorder: 7460 cars.
• Obesity: 800 cars.
• Dyslexia: 320 cars.
• Tennis elbow: 40 cars.
It is inconceivable that is what the ‘man on the Clapham Omnibus’ would conceive as being an incapacity or inability to drive so needing special DWP provided cars.
On the same website, via a FOI, you find out a Taxpayer funded Quango(Ofcom) is using the Taxpayer to fund its left-wing views by ensuring indoctrination into the culture of ‘Discrimination’. Whilst paying staff for 5 days a week and allowing them 1 day off each week
That is were our taxpayer pounds are wasted. Its not tax rises needed to fill these ever increasing ‘black-holes’ it is for someone to get a grip and take charge of expenditure of the throw away culture of ‘our’ money.
They don’t know how to manage. 650 MP’s along with their 800 unaccountable unelected Lords, with more more than 50% of the approving and condoning the waste of our money
July 2, 2025
Like spam the abuse keeps coming and our Legislators with their Government refuse to get a grip and manage
From the DT
It keeps trickling out….
The obscene increase in the number of people receiving the mobility section of enhanced personal independence payments (PIPs) is laid bare in a TaxPayers’ Alliance analysis of the official statistics. The numbers exploded from 734,136 in January 2019 to 1,754,739 in April 2025, a 139 per cent increase driven by widespread, officially sanctioned abuse of our welfare state.
The number of recipients claiming because of autism surged from 26,256 to 114,211, for anxiety and depression from 23,647 to 110,075; for ADHD from 4,233 to 37,339. Successful claims for acne, obesity, drug and alcohol misuse and even writers’ cramp all jumped. Some thirteen people receive enhanced PIPs for “factitious disorders” with deliberately falsified symptoms, including munchausen syndrome.
July 2, 2025
“The prime cause [of the collapse of industry] is sky high energy prices.”
Correct. But we should also remember that it is also designed to impoverish people as well as destroy industry and jobs in order to make as many people dependent upon state handouts as possible. Socialism depends upon making and keeping people poor and the excuse used is that we must save the planet. It is quite clear that the MPs from the red side of the Uniparty feel their votes come from those living on the state and not from the workers paying taxes. They really ought to re-name their party as the XLabour Party.
July 2, 2025
Tears of a clown springs to mind today while Starmer in court mode defends his client detached from reality.
July 2, 2025
The world view of those that believe in a Marxist/Collectivist State, can’t see passed their own failures, and any possibility of Innovation, new thinking, and are suspicious of anyone that challenges their world view! They normally sight their “Values” as an excuse! We are the Plebs, to whom they rule!
They are Doomed to fail, it’s inherent within their world view! Except we, the British People, will be left to pick up the pieces, and the young, the debt!
I’ve been left behind, from the eighties, so find it difficult to care! But, I notice (GBNews), you keep trying!? I’m not too sure I agree with you!
We will all need luck, if only to get rid of this lot! But, hopefully this will be the end of the Labour Party, especially here in Wales!
July 2, 2025
The reason for the exponential welfare bill is because personal and national pride has been deliberately destroyed since 1997 using, for instance, mass immigration amongst other measures such as HR legislation and devolution.
July 2, 2025
I don’t disagree with you!
Devolution is destroying Britishness, and handed Power to Regional Nationalists! It can never, and will never, work for anyone accept those that want to break GB up!
Add on top of that, add Net-Zero, and the thinking behind it, and we’ll soon be broken apart!
We need some strategic thinking supporting the British Interest! But, I’m not too sure we can get a Party built around suggest an idea ?
July 3, 2025
Can you tell me why Miliband is never in the firing line for the sack? Labour obviously go with what he stands for so until we get rid of the party itself we are doomed. It is quite obvious that we need these refineries and coal and oil for the time being and playing with net zero should be a side show. I think Miliband is more dangerous than Reeves.
July 3, 2025
LB : “I think Miliband is more dangerous than Reeves.”
That’s why he’s never in the firing line for the sack!