The PM is wasting his time trying to get a one out, one in migrant deal with France. One for one will not cut the totals drastically in the way the public wants. We should not have to take more migrants we agree to take just because more illegals have turned up by boat.
The PM presumably thinks being able to return a few illegals in exchange for others might act as a deterrent to people risking the small boat trip. The truth is much of the risk has been removed by the French authorities accompanying small boats out of French waters and UK border force then providing a safe taxi service. All the time lots of people want to try the small boats numbers will far exceed France’s willingness to take illegals back.
Meanwhile other countries in the EU are querying the French idea saying they do not want to accept those France might take back. As they have common borders it is a matter of concern to them.
The PM has at last understood he needs to be able to send illegals elsewhere to act as a deterrent. That was the point of the Rwanda scheme. This French idea is not up to the task.
July 8, 2025
Good morning.
An opportunity was very badly missed when the government, once again, handed over our fishing grounds to the EU. We could have very easily stated that there could be no renegotiation of fishing licenses until the matter of the illegals was settled. That would have left the EU with the problem of suggesting solutions or, outright refusing to discuss the matter and so scuppering any fishing rights.
But we have such poor quality people in charge that one can only look on in despair.
July 8, 2025
2TK as with the tories have no intention of stopping the channel invasion.
We are Importing a fifth column into the country which now appears to have more rights than the taxpayer.
A whole industry has evolved around this deceitful action of successive governments and too many people are making a handsome living from it.
Only when we get mass deportations will it stop and as Trump has demonstrated it is possible. We just need someone with backbone to face off the vested interests before it’s too late.
I’m still of the opinion that some underhand agreement was made by Boris with the EU.
July 8, 2025
I agree. I have thought for a long time that a secret “deal” was reached with France during the Brexit negotiations that “we’d take our fair share” of the criminal migrants. For the sake of appearances the British PM pretends he wants to stop the dinghies and Macron pretends he is trying: the close co-operation/co-ordination between the British and French Authorities demonstrates the truth.
But they’ve completely lost control of the situation with the numbers of migrants growing exponentially, so now
Two-Tier is trying to formalise the arrangement so that the numbers are controlled.
July 8, 2025
Seems so they will stop coming when we have suitable deterrents in place but Starmer provided only incentives. The only deterrent is rough seas.
So we have lost the great Norman Tebbit. Just look at the dire ministers we have to suffer recently. Sunak, Hunt, Lammy, Starmer, Reeves, Cooper Balls, Phillipson, Rayner, Ed Miliband, Lord Hermer… not one of any quality or even honesty & decency. Hermer thing it is disgusting to point out the blatant two tier Police, Justice Systems, Government we suffer from. No Hermer running this two tier system is disgusting and pretending you are not is even more disgusting!
July 8, 2025
Rough seas and in the long term making the UK such an over crowded, crime ridden, poor, over taxes and declining place that few with then want to come!
July 8, 2025
So Mr Macron is returning to the well of bottomless generosity again today, for another handout from the man who doesn’t know he’s being played for a fool. Last time we handed out fishing licences and money, and got more young men in boats as reciprocity. Surely that amounts to buying live humans? Isn’t that illegal?
When will our government realise we are the laughingstock of the international community, and about the ONLY country that thinks Macron is a world statesman worth the time of day?
July 8, 2025
Correct. Fishing was the only issue of interest to the EU so they insisted it be agreed as a precondition to all other negotiations and Starmer is such a terrible negotiator that he caved and actually gave them longer fishing rights than they expected. He presumably thought this would result in EU goodwill in other negotiations but it didn’t – note how they are blocking UK’s entry into the Mediterranean Trade Zone. Has there been a single negotiation where Starmer didn’t just cave ? Junior Doctors, Train Drivers, Chagos, EU, PIP benefits etc. etc.
July 8, 2025
Absolutely correct.
July 8, 2025
With respect, in my opinion, we don’t need to send them elsewhere – we need to stop them coming in !
Hundreds come in almost every day now, and nothing is done. At the very least we should stop giving them such a warm welcome, everything found, and then benefits. The British taxpayer is fed up to the teeth with being fleeced to pay for all this. How much more must we take!!
July 8, 2025
Pushing / towing them back mid-Channel from whence they came is the only answer.
July 8, 2025
That or making it very clear they will never be allowed to stay. But we have our dire legal and “justice” system in the way. Just look the dire criminal who are so often allowed to stay, at the appalling Post office scandal report out today, or Lucy Letby denied an appeal, to the political prisoners like Lucy Connolly or the failure to take any real action against most of the grooming gang rapists, or the appalling pushing of the net harm Covid Vaccines – even coerced into to young people and people who had had Covid already – who never needed them even had they been safe and effective.
July 8, 2025
It is beyond ridiculous that the UK even considers what the EU thinks when it comes to national borders and security.
One of the major plusses we gained when we left the EU was the unfettered right to secure our borders and to control our own affairs.
The issue of small boat invasion is nothing to do with the EU per se though obviously France as an EU member want to rid itself of unwanted migrants so allowing them to board rubber boats protected by the French Navy for any harm during transit to the UK is a diplomatic problem.
The £500 million we give the French border control police every year to stop the migrant flow across the Channel is clearly a waste of money. We should immediately stop that payment.
We should announce any asylum seeker that has arrived in the UK from a safe country will not be granted asylum in the UK ever. We should announce any migrant arriving from a safe country without identity papers will never be allowed to stay in the UK.
All unregulated migrants arriving in the UK should be classed illegal aliens as their or official legal status and barred from accessing the state’s benefits and social welfare payment programs.
Decent accommodation should be provided for those illegal aliens on one of the many large Scottish Islands that would benefit from an ingress of residents. The required new towns needed there to house the aliens would provide work for the new arrivals and they would be paid for the work to fund their living needs.
Those wishing to return to their original homeland would be assisted to do that and advised they would then be entitled to apply for asylum once their true identity had been established.
Desperate times require desperate measures.
July 8, 2025
The PM is wasting his time trying to get a one out, one in migrant deal with France. One for one will not cut the totals drastically in the way the public wants.
What a load of ballocks, one in one out how the hell is that going to reduce the illegals sneaking into our country, further more what are the French going to swap a illegal with a Brain surgeon a Doctor a CEO of some foreign company NO you can bet your bottom dollar it will be some lowlife scum who’s committed various crimes that they’ll swap us with, wake up people this country as gone down hill in the last year and it’s not going to get much better while this shower of muppets are in charge
July 8, 2025
+1
July 8, 2025
Once again we have a suggested political solution which is complicated, expensive, gives control and influence to another country, but does nothing to resolve the problem, we now seek to “exchange” illegal people trying to enter our Country direct, with people who entered another another Country illegally, whom that Country does not want !
Just apply the simple law we and many other Countries have, no proper papers, no entry, send them away to make a proper application.
All the while we continue to take illegals in by any means, more will seek to try, and numbers will grow,
July 8, 2025
It is easy to stop these crossings and the government knows it. That’s why their comments about it are so insulting to the public.
All the while they are keeping us in the ECHR they will face this issue.
Making ouselves subject to foreign courts is undemocratic and insulting to the People.
July 8, 2025
Anti-Democratic as are many of the Judges who invent new laws to userp the laws.
July 8, 2025
If Two-Tier wanted to stop the invasion, he would take the actions necessary to stop it. Stop giving “free everything.” Stop putting them up in hotels. Prevent them working illegally. Leave the ECHR. Scrap the HRA. Stop the Legal Aid Gravy Train. Deport.
(That’s what Sunak should have done, but as I’ve suggested many times, I believe there is a secret agreement with France that “we’ll take our fair share.”)
Two-Tier isn’t trying to stop the invasion. All he’s trying to do is regulate, control and limit the numbers coming. As far as I’m concerned that is proof that the importation of tens of thousands of fighting age males from violent societies, every year, is deliberate.
Since Two-Tier is (a) desperate to fight off Reform and (b) the worst negotiator we’ve ever had I suspect he’ll agree to a BOGOF …. and we’ll get two shipped in from France with just one returned.
And he’ll try to claim it’s a success.
July 8, 2025
As if the illegal immigration scandal is not bad enough. Two-tier Kier puts his trust in Macron and the French.
France will never stop the boats. They want them to leave France and are happy to help.
July 8, 2025
We could do with a British Mike Benz, to expose the corrupt web of NGOs, transnational and internationalist interests that fund, encourage and support the migrant invasion.
At the moment most people think the phenomenon is purely a natural result of people seeking a better life in a safer or wealthier country. They forget that the world was ever thus. Sure, the pool of impoverished humanity in the Middle East has been vastly increased by our regime-changing games there, but the movement of these people here in such vast numbers is not possible without the help of state, NGO and non-state (I don’t mean the smugglers) actors.
July 8, 2025
Wilders has announced stringent measures, no migrant will EVER obtain Netherlands citizenship, NGOs helping import illegal people will be charged.
It’s all too late of course, we will ‘have to fight the people of the sun-continent for our island’ as Powell said.
July 8, 2025
The government would ‘smash the gangs’ within a few days of physically stopping the migrants at the UK border and returning them safely well into French waters near their coast. Then the migrants would no longer be willing to fork out Euros 3k upwards for the journey. Snowball in hell’s chance of course as ‘smash the gangs’ is even more of a gimmick than Starmer said of Rwanda. When the UK eventually rejoins the EU then England will be the official dumping ground for all of the EU’s unwanted migrants.
July 8, 2025
Mathmatically illiterate. So appalingly stupid, one more nail in their coffin.
July 8, 2025
Agreed AG – but think of the damage that’s being done, much of it irreversable…
July 8, 2025
Given what is going on with Russian aggression we have been here before in the 1850’s when Britain and France had to join together to fight the Russians in the Crinea – what Macron and Starmer are about today is the making of a European army necessary to confront this real threat as we cannot rely on america anymore – therefore we should also be looking at these illegals in a more positive light perhaps maybe as as potentials to fill the ranks – it would be one way to let them prove their loyalty – and am sure the whole thing could even be expanded then to send the ne’er-do-well’s the other way – there’s too much negativity about
July 8, 2025
@James4. If we need mercenaries for overseas ventures (I don’t think we do, as in my view we shouldn’t be involved in foreigners’ wars) then easier to train them in their homelands and ship them direct to the conflict zone.
David Lammy’s just visited Syria to give £95m to the newly installed, western-backed regime headed by a former leader of the Nusrah Front (who used to have a $10m bounty on his head as a terrorist). His forces have been widely accused of carrying out several thousand ethnic killings in Syria this year, although Lammy’s PR video says how all Syrians are looking forward to a peaceful future under al-Jolani’s leadership. Given our funding to the regime, perhaps he could spare us some of his ready-trained men?
July 8, 2025
If you arrive at airport passport control without the correct papers you are sent back whence you came.
This is only different due to the UN Refugee convention, the boats should be turned around as soon as they are spotted and escorted back to France, We need to leave the UN refugee convention until it is rewritten for modern times.
Rewriting the UN Refugee convention will be beneficial to most Western nations so they should get on with it.
Refugee – asylum seeker – trafficking all need to be redefined for modern times. These terms are now too easy to abuse.
If the UN needs volunteers to input into the new convention, I am available. Pragmatism and practicality with consideration for the host country’s population is what is needed and is sadly lacking in those who are in charge at present.
July 8, 2025
So France can cause the open arms of England to welcome greater numbers of migrants by first sending more in dinghies, taking them back, and replacing them with equal numbers of others?
From the migrant perspective, the message from France becomes “We will get you into England legally but you might have to make a dinghy journey first though followed by a short wait in France”.
It is another instance of when this PM negotiates, the UK loses.
July 8, 2025
Major alert:
Anyone that thought the threats from the WHO’s Pandemic treaty had been watered down are in for a shock – Since the treaty was signed, in an effort to regain the power of the original intentions, the WHO have issued an addendum, which if not rejected by governments will mean the WHO will have total power over our lives.
On Friday, July 19, the WHO’s International Health Regulations (IHR) amendments will become international law—unless our government sends a formal letter of rejection. The WHO will claim new global powers over our country
There will be no vote. No debate.
Our worst nightmare since the pandemic is about to come true and we cannot trust HMG to defend us – we will be at the mercy of unaccountable bureaucrats.
We must demand that Starmer sends that letter!
July 8, 2025
Condolences to you Sir John on the loss of Norman Tebbit
A sad loss of a great man.
July 8, 2025
+1
July 8, 2025
At the moment when 1000 come by small boats we grant asylum to around 700 of them and the other 300 are (nominally) able to be deported. Under this new scheme those 300 will be replaced by another 300 who we will grant asylum to. So instead of 700 granted asylum there will be 1000. So it is a much worse deal for UK. Starmer seems to think this will reduce the small boat crossings but why would it ? There is still a 70% chance of succeeding, that hasn’t changed, and the 300 sent back to France will just come again won’t they ? In fact there may be an incentive for France to increase the amount of small boat crossings because doing so moves out asylum seekers who qualify in the UK.
July 8, 2025
The devastating OBR Report – so it must be right – calculates that low wage migrants cost us £463,000 each by the time they turn 81.
Let’s calculate what no-wage migrants cost, and their multiples of “British’ children and dependents.
I see a chance of Reeves to fill all the black holes in one action! Apart from the one in her head that is.
July 8, 2025
A recent picture showing the French police puncturing inflatable boats so they sank within a few yards of the shore seems to be the only good idea the French have come up with and one wonders why this hasn’t been happening for years.In fact why don’t they puncture every rubber dinghy along the French coast or ban them from being sold/used.
Together with a lack of intelligence, lack of foresight,the never ending belief that the French will do the right thing by the British, the ECHR and weak Labour politicians we have completely lost control of the ability to protect our country, its borders and now aren’t aware of who is residing here.
We are incapable of saying ‘No’ or ‘non’; enough is enough; we must close our borders and anyone coming here illegally must be returned the same day.
No free handouts,No free accommodation, clothing, food or anything else.There has to be a dis- incentive; there has to be a foolproof reason why immigrants won’t want to come to the UK anymore.
We are too small an island to house the world, to feed and educate the world and to allow foreign prisoners to reside here, all at taxpayers expense.
Our public services and infrastructure can’t cope, with an ever increasing demand.
There is a lack of ability by our politicians to come up with a suitable solution to the problem.This is what we pay them for; one therefore has to assume they either can’t or don’t want to.
July 8, 2025
Three point solution to the Channel migrant invasion.
1. Change the rhetoric on asylum so it becomes something the UK state grants, not what the migrant demands; no more entitlement.
2. Set up offices in France where would be asylum seekers can apply. No applicants upon arrival at the UK.
3. Erect POW style camps for those bold enough to attempt to cross, with nowhere to go and nothing to do except notify the camp officer where they can be returned.
Make coming to the UK uninvited a futile act. Reserve asylum for those it’s in the interest of the UK to grant, and those the charities are able to fully support. If you can’t be returned to your home country, coming to the UK without a valid visa would be an utterly foolish thing to do.
July 8, 2025
If more people followed the Christian God then:
1) The UK would be properly sovereign
2) But we’d have great relations with our nearest neighbours (trade, security, culture) without being legally beholden to them
3) Low tax
4) Stable but strong economy
5) Low immigration (we’d have borders in place with fair-minded, effective foreign aid)
6) Men would be men (masculine) and women (feminine). And so much better family life
7) People would have more work ethic and sense of responsibility towards others and family and country (patriotism) – and just KINDER (including personal charity for people at home and abroad) without being a wimp and better sense of HUMOUR!
8) Much better arts and architecture and sport and wildlife
9) People wouldn’t be destroying themselves with booze, cigarettes, sugar, lack of exercise and so would have so much better health – physical and mental – and there would be a collapse in people going to hospital and in crime and more.
10) People would just be HAPPIER!
July 8, 2025
(much, much … much happier)
July 8, 2025
@EdM. It depends on their interpretation of what following the Christian God means. It’s a broad Church!
But I get your point. Well said.
July 8, 2025
I’m always banging on about Cyrus the great as great example of Judaeo-Christian political leadership (even though he was a pagan). But if I can briefly bang on here about Joseph of Egypt of the Old Testament – another Judaeo-Christian political hero (albeit more mythical than historical but the story sends a powerful message about just what is possible in politics!).
Joseph, after being betrayed by his brothers and sold as a slave to Egypt, instead of complaining about God’s providence, accepts it – and then what follows from this? He becomes literally the second most powerful political figure in the world (of Egypt). And a Jew in a pagan land. And how his life is blessed. And what a brilliant political leader he becomes, too!
And then he forgives his dastardly brothers.
The important thing about Joseph here is that amazing things can happen in politics. The miracle-like.
(We see something extraordinary like this too in the life of Joan of Arc – although more in military context).
And then consider what happens when you have a man of faith, like Jospeh of Egypt, leading a nation that also have faith like him. You get the land of milk and honey (instead of so much sour milk and vinegar that is often the reality).
July 8, 2025
Well that’s a surprise – Our PM makes a simple request to the EU only to have it thrown back in his face.
Now when did that ever happen before?
Perhaps our PM will now see how aggressive and unfriendly the EU are generally, perhaps, but it hasn’t stopped PM after PM from worshipping the EU and being at their beck and call, doing their bidding, being their poodle – starting with Blair.
If we imagine our current PM has learned any lessons about the EU then we are being too optimistic – Starmer would be willing to ‘stand with the EU’ all the time while they stuck pins in him.
The EU doesn’t do anything unless it fits in with their current dogma, and anything that distracts from filling Western nations with immigrants is certainly off the cards.
The EU may not be entirely responsible for defining the NWO plans, immigrant treaties, the alleged climate change or the propensity for pandemic lockdowns, but they are certainly doing all they can to make sure these things are kept on track.
July 8, 2025
A typically stupid deal from a stupid man! We don’t want one in, one out. We want illegal migration to be stopped and a Government with the will and determination to do it. It could easily be done by turning the boats around or, when they land in the UK, rounding them up and sending them straight back, in chains if necessary.
Equally, we want legal immigration controlled and reduced. Every problem we have can be traced back to immigration.
We are not against immigration in limited numbers, but we are already an overpopulated Island.
How thick do you have to be as a member of government or an MP and not see that simple truth!
July 8, 2025
From the Media
The the UK Head of State the King will tell the French Head of State Emmanuel Macron: ‘As friends and as allies, we face these challenges together, there are “no borders” between Britain and France.
Where is the French Prime Minister? is he talking to the UK Prime Minister? obviously as 2TK is just a PM he cant talk to a head of state as anything other than being a subordinate, does he bow, curtsy or get on one knee?
A reflection on the sorry State of the World, no one able to talk on behalf of their people all talking for the sake of it and personal ego.
July 8, 2025
As remarked to the media comment – ‘Let’s remember The Great Reset plan drawn up by the World Economic Forum was launched in June 2020 by our great and loyal King’
July 8, 2025
There is an EU regulation which states port authorities have a duty to prevent non sea-worthy vessels from leaving port. If the French actually wanted to do it, they could prevent all these journeys, using this law as the reason.
As things stand, the French authorities are in breach of their own law by allowing these dinghies out to sea. They are clearly not up to the journey because they sink all the time.
July 8, 2025
And here we have the truth of the situation:
“The King will tell Emmanuel Macron there are “no borders” between Britain and France in their shared efforts to solve “complex threats”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/08/king-charles-to-tell-macron-no-borders-between-us/
No borders …. from our supposedly politically impartial, WEF-supporting, King.
July 8, 2025
Heaven known, I am the last person to support 2TK, but IF he gets his one in one in, one out deal, is should work.
If the French take back all the small boat arrivals quickly, it will only be a matter of days for the boats to stop coming.
Under the deal, that should mean we would then stop taking in others, unless Starmer really in stupid enough to agree to a minimum number we will take in legally.
July 8, 2025
Off topic sad to hear that Norman Tebbit passed away aged 94. He was a legend and giant of real Conservatives in his day coming from working class background, was humble and generous looking after his wife after bombed by the IRA in 1984. The Labour party and Unions hated him and misquoted him.
He thought the Conservative Party of today: ” need for that tremendous clarity and authenticity and depth of belief”. So true!
He backed SJR standing up to the European Union and was a true Brit and gentleman. Rest in peace. We were so lucky to have him and may his spirit live on for the country ‘s sake.
July 8, 2025
Its clear to me Starmer doesn’t understand me, or our Country or the British people just what does he understand?
Answer, How to waste and squander, our money, our culture, our Country.
Will there be anything left after 4 more years of this nonsense
July 8, 2025
Our PM has absolutely no intention of stopping the invasion of unidentified young men of fighting age crossing the Channel. He has more in common with these illegals than the indigenous people of the UK. He and Macron know full well that this scheme will not be approved by the EU/will not work. This is just to make our PM look like he is doing “something”. If the French navy can be employed to assist these illegal Channel crossings why cannot our navy be employed to “save them from drowning” and return them safely to a French port? And if the French are not required by their membership of the ECHR to put them up in 4 star hotels (or now houses), with free accommodation, healthcare, clothing, £40/week pocket money, free entertainment, travel and lawyers’ fees and the ability to take black market jobs undercutting the indigenous workers why do we? Why can we at least not put those whom we cannot identify in secure camps? Rwanda was a real deterrent and it would not have needed a large number of places in Rwanda as once the illegal migrants realised they would not be living in the UK on benefits they would simply return to their home countries.
July 9, 2025
You ask “why cannot our navy be employed to “save them from drowning” and return them safely to a French port?”
It can. Maritme law such as UNCLOS, SOLAS, and even the ECHR Article 5, gives the UK all the legal cover it needs to turn the boats back to France and to do so beyond UK’s territoral limit (up to 12 nmiles or midpoint of the Channel) in the Contiguous Zone which extends up to 24 nmiles fom the same baseline as the Territorial limit.
Art 5 of the ECHR specifically provides for, “the lawful arrest or detention of a person to prevent his effecting an unauthorised entry into the country or of a person against whom action is being taken with a view to deportation or extradition.” This can be done in the Contiguous Zone before any claims under the Human Rights Act can arise.
Furthermore, UK’s Offences Against the Person Act 1861 provides for the drivers of the boats to be charged with endangering human life at sea because their boat does not meet regulations for safety, is overloaded or the conditions are dangerous.
The only thing missing is the political will. Of course France would object because it wants rid of these illegal migrants, but it has no legal cover legitimising its helping these people’s illegal entry into UK in contravention of ECHR Art 5.
July 9, 2025
PS I forgot to add that the UN Convention on Refugees (Art 31 from memory) provides no cover to these illegals because they are not travelling directly from the country where thy were persecuted etc.
July 8, 2025
Off topic so apologies, but this is damned serious. On the BBC website is a long report (“Poisoned Water & Scarred Hills”) of the environmental damage being caused in China by the mining of rare earth metals. All our electronic devices, including those “emission free” (yeah, right!) EV’s, need these minerals and the demand for them is increasing. It’s a filthy, exploitative industry which the Chinese government wants to encourage. So the rush for Net Zero is causing a massive eco-problem. But as it’s well hidden at the moment Mr Milliband will not let it trouble him, I suppose.
July 8, 2025
Indeed – now we have dire people like Lammy, Miliband, Starmer, Reeves, Cooper Balls, Phillipson and Raynor God help us!
July 8, 2025
+1 LL. The more one sees of them, the more foolish, dishonest, venal and repugnant they appear. I very seldom see footage of them speaking, but when I do, I’m astonished that such people head up the government of any country, let alone GB.
July 8, 2025
Neither am I, it should be more in the region of 1 in 10 out?
July 8, 2025
“The PM has at last understood he needs to be able to send illegals elsewhere to act as a deterrent.”
Of course the PM has always known this. It is amazing that YouGov’s weekly tracker poll found that as many as 13% of Britons approve of the government’s record to date, the lowest lvel yet. This 13% must be all male.
July 9, 2025
Starmer’s Gang have no fundamental objection to illegal immigration by small boat across the Channel by people they perceive as victims of White Supremacy, colonialist Britain and capitalism. But they know they cannot argue this in public. They are acting purely to preserve their positions in office and to appease what they see as the Far Right.
France doesn’t want these people in France as much as Britons don’t want them in Britain. It’s pass the parcel. France has clear objectives: it wants rid of illegals including failed asylum seekers (a high proportion of those crossing the Channel have had their asylum claims rejected by France, one reason they destroy their identity papers). Starmer’s Gang has conflicting objectives, so of course France wins any negotiation.