The Home Secretary will not smash the gangs with a new law on adverts.

The Home Secretary thinks putting through an explicit offence of advertising illegal migrant boat services could cut the numbers crossing. She will find most of the adverts are outside UK jurisdiction, Meanwhile let  me remind her how many potential offences go unprosecuted in so many cases.

1 Everyone entering the UK illegally is breaking the law. They could be prosecuted for illegal entry.

2. Many of the illegal travellers have knowingly paid money to people traffickers and dodgy boat services. That is financing crime and aiding money laundering.

3. Some make fraudulent claims for asylum based on lies about their identity, past and origins.

4.Some undertake work whilst their claim is being considered which is against the law.

5. Some knowingly work without paying tax or National Insurance

6. Some work for less than the living wage, and some work in illegal activities.

All this shows there is a big enforcement issue for current laws. Why are many illegal migrants exempted from law enforcement?

On arrival illegal migrants should be asked who organised their trip, who they paid, how much and by what means. Their mobile phones should be examined to find answers and to trace where they have come from.

 

100 Comments

  1. Mark B
    August 4, 2025

    Good morning.

    With respect Sir John this and past governments are playing a game with the people of this country. They are engaging in pointless and meaningless exercises in order seem they are doing something when, in truth, they have absolutely no intention of doing anything. For they want these illegals here in this country, as witnessed by all those Afghans the government secretly imported and tried to keep quiet.

    The solutions are simple. Arrest them upon arriving to our shores. If France will not take them back, relocate them to a remote Scottish Island. Many of the larger ones have runways. Make a law that, any person overstaying their Visa or entering the country illegally cannot be granted asylum.

    We must make it clear that these people are not welcome here in the UK. The USA is leading the way on this and many illegals are self deporting.

    1. PeteB
      August 4, 2025

      Agreed Mark, the advert ban is a gimmick from a Government that says one thing whilst doing another. I see they are also bunging more money to France for the ! for 1 exchange scheme – WHY?

      Confining illegal migrants on a remote island worked very well for Australia. We can do the same. After a cold uncomfortable Scottish winter we’ll see how many remember their place of birth and opt to return.

    2. Ian wragg
      August 4, 2025

      The uniparty don’t want to stop the boats or reduce legal immigration. It’s population replacement straight out of the UN and WEF playbook.
      More effort is being extended on protecting these criminals than enforcement of the law. Now we have a government department actively monitoring anti immigration comments on the Internet. We are very near a civil war which will be entirely of the uniparties making
      As an aside, oil and gas production has dropped 7% since the ruinous tax was introduced but demand has risen so we are Importing £20 billion more products from abroad. Ot looks like all the PPE graduates infesting Westminster missed the E subject entirely.

      1. Ian wragg
        August 4, 2025

        Yesterday we were Importing 23% of our electricity at £89 gwh . We are literally taxing UK consumers and sending the taxes abroad. Today we are burning more gas and exporting at £58 gwh. Something is very wrong with this country.

        1. Michael Staples
          August 4, 2025

          Off topic on gas and electricity, but the analogy is a good one with immigration in that the Labour ministers appear completely blind to the economic and social implications of heading down a road to destroy our nation.

        2. glen cullen
          August 4, 2025

          I suspect that miliband would like to see 100% of our energy needs imported …thats net-zero

    3. Peter
      August 4, 2025

      As other posters so far have pointed out, this is just another way of appearing to be doing something. It fools nobody.

      Meanwhile, government attempts to close down protest news on social media.

      Politicians hope that a rather phlegmatic and unarmed population can continue to be controlled. In France they would be ripping up the cobblestones. In America lone gunmen would be causing havoc.

    4. Sir Joe Soap
      August 4, 2025

      Absolutely. The original post today is beyond naive in thinking there’s there’s any intention to correct. But where are the instructions ultimately coming from ?

      1. outsider
        August 4, 2025

        Dear Sir Joseph, I do not think that Sir John is being naive, He is challenging ministers on their own terms. That is often the most effective way to expose incomptence amd destroy false arguments.

    5. Dave Andrews
      August 4, 2025

      They are detained as soon as they come to shore.
      The mistake is to place them in 4* hotels, rather than secure accommodation. I don’t know whether Scottish Islands is necessary – maybe just a fenced off POW style camp on Salisbury Plain. Nothing to do and good porridge to eat will be adequate for their short stay during which arrangements can be made to return them to their country of origin.
      Once it is established that attempting to enter the UK uninvited is a forlorn hope, the stream will reduce to a trickle. The camps can be repurposed to hold failed asylum seekers and offending foreigners at the end of their prison sentence while their repatriation can be arranged.

      Reply They are not detained. They are free to leave the hotel. They mainly choose to stay because its good board and lodging and sometimes the source of illegal work and cash payments. Some do leave the hotels and become illegal tenants and workers in the wider community.

    6. Ian B
      August 4, 2025

      @Mark B – it could all stop tomorrow if there was a will in Parliament to do so. The ECHR is not the block that it is said to be (although the idea of a Parliament acceding their authority to a foreign unelected unaccountable power begs the question why do we have a Parliament) other Countries signed up to this foreign court have no problem blocking illegal entry .

      So it is the will of Parliament to punish the UK people that sees this influx.

      1. Mike Durrans
        August 4, 2025

        you have got it in one Ian!

        1. Lifelogic
          August 4, 2025

          +1

    7. Mike Durrans
      August 4, 2025

      Well said Mark, We need rid also of the corrupt far left in Government. they are self-centred .

      1. Mike Durrans
        August 4, 2025

        It has been IAN — For a very long time!

  2. Kathy
    August 4, 2025

    I’m afraid our biggest problem is that the Home Secretary, much like her totally inept boss, does not want to stop the boats. They barely even want to talk about it. We have a situation in the UK now where everything is two-tier, and that includes the level of crime that is tolerated by successive governments when it comes to illegal migrants. They are allowed to enter the country without passports and without any proof of who they are or where they come from. Genuine British citizens would never be allowed to do this. No wonder illegal migrants see themselves as untouchable. Why, we found out only last week, via a shockingly-revealing video taken by a former staff member of one of the many luxurious four-star hotels that our uninvited guests are placed in, that such guests are allowed to smoke – drugs as well as cigarettes – in their rooms. This would not be tolerated from paying guests, would it? We all know that the reason it’s allowed is because the powers that be are too scared to try to prevent it.

    Another point: when it comes to the trafficking of illegal migrants, we all know that truck drivers are fined £2000 for every migrant found hiding in their trucks, even if they have absolutely no knowledge of the stowaway, so why isn’t the RNLI not fined in the same way? We all know that they operate a taxi service in the Channel, not a genuine rescue service. If they were fined for every illegal migrant found on their boats – and, let’s face it, the evidence is there every single day – they would soon stop aiding and abetting the trafficking.

    1. Dave Andrews
      August 4, 2025

      The RNLI pull people out of the sea who would otherwise drown. They may be intending to enter the country illegally, but that isn’t a capital offence.
      It’s not the RNLI that’s the problem, it’s the inept government that tempts in irregular migrants with free everything, thinking they deserve better treatment than armed forces veterans.

      1. Ian B
        August 4, 2025

        @Dave Andrews – ‘The RNLI pull people out of the sea’ that is a rare occurrence. The RNLI gets phone calls from the French Authorities that boats are on the way please come and collect them. Then bizarrely the French Authorities say can you hand back the life jackets we have given them, these are the people that are funding the traffic by doing all the work of the gangs

      2. Mickey Taking
        August 4, 2025

        I think you’ll find its been a long time since RNLI rescued drowning illegals. They are carefully taken across from one boat to another, they started out getting feet wet, not head to toe thrashing about in the sea.

      3. Kathy
        August 5, 2025

        The RNLI occasionally pull people out of the sea who would otherwise drown but most, in fact thousands, of the people they bring into the UK these days have simply called them once they have crossed into British waters and literally booked a floating and completely free taxi onto our shores, the perfect introduction to the freebies they get once they have landed.

    2. Christine
      August 4, 2025

      The RNLI is complaining that its donations have decreased. Who are these men who man these lifeboats, which is clearly now a full-time job? It used to be a voluntary organisation and one that our country was rightly proud of. There is no way that any patriotic British person would be aiding and abetting these people smugglers, so I ask: who is funding this, and where are the crews coming from? The media should be investigating this, MPs should be asking questions, but I’ve never seen any evidence of any journalism being done.

      1. Mickey Taking
        August 4, 2025

        They appear to be setting off at the request of French patrolling boats to meet at some mid-Channel point.
        How can they set off prior to an individual distress call?
        There is no distress, the French are ensuring safety and passing the buck…..we should say ‘NO!
        The French will turn back or sit around at the midpoint.
        What happens to our distress calls when possibly only a few miles from our beaches?

      2. Kathy
        August 5, 2025

        Yes, the media SHOULD be investigating but, as I have thought for the last couple of decades, the British mainstream media is our biggest enemy. If it only acknowledged what WE can plainly see, in every area that our governments have completely messed up, this country would be so much healthier.

    3. Radar
      August 4, 2025

      Kathy, +1, extremely likely the very real truth of the matter: “We all know that the reason it’s allowed is because the powers that be are too scared to try to prevent it.”

      They, the Government, are very, very scared indeed.
      R

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        August 4, 2025

        Increasing the lawless population will not cure their fright.

        Is it legal for the police to announce that peaceful protests are no longer a right?

    4. Jim+Whitehead
      August 4, 2025

      Kathy, I do agree with the very sensible points which you’ve made, alas, they are far too sensible for a British Government of any stripe to adopt.
      The misguided actions and inactions of the Cameron, May, Johnson, Sunak governments were as excruciatingly maddening as those of the contemptible current incumbents.
      Justice, in its Two Tier application is no longer justice at all, and all can see it, especially those who mete it out in their cynical calculated exercise.
      The much vaunted ‘compassion’ of the left is no more than Two Tear hypocrisy, and it has been ever thus.

      1. Kathy
        August 5, 2025

        Exactly. My wonder is that there are still so many in the country who don’t see what we see.

  3. Lifelogic
    August 4, 2025

    Indeed not shortage of laws that could be used but the government chooses not too. Shop lifting is illegal too as is handling stolen goods but rarely is anything done about these either. New laws are just to should the government is doing something what it is clearly not doing anything at all to deter the arrivals – quite the reverse.

    1. Ian B
      August 4, 2025

      @Lifelogic +1, to true the will of Parliament is against blocking criminal entry. If they are so impassioned by criminals, support and encourage them, why do they criminalise ‘free speech’. Why are our jails full?

  4. Lifelogic
    August 4, 2025

    This is the best Air India 171 report I have found:-

    https://www.indiatoday.in/opinion/story/story-of-the-crash-of-flight-ai-171-and-a-very-flighty-investigative-report-air-india-ahmedabad-2764682-2025-08-01

    Reply. Clearly a need for careful further analysis before reaching a conclusion on true cause of crash.

  5. Rod Evans
    August 4, 2025

    The problem now with government is the number of legal profession operatives that reside on the benches of Westminster. They imagine making laws will solve every problem.
    To quote Maslow “when you only have a hammer, you are always looking for a nail for the solution”

    1. Lifelogic
      August 4, 2025

      Well from Lawyers point of view the more laws the more well paid jobs for lawyers. Alas nearly all these are parasitic jobs and are making productive workers and tax payers ever poorer!

      1. Berkshire Alan.
        August 4, 2025

        Lifelogic
        Agreed, Legal Aid if you are a UK Citizen and own your own house impossible, even to defend yourself against a crime you have never committed. Recompense for your costs when you are proven innocent, forget it !
        Justice only if you can afford it in this Country now !

        1. Rod Evans
          August 4, 2025

          “Only for those who can afford it” or if you are a migrant, in which case endless legal aid is available to pay all lawyers endlessly appealing the last legal judgement that was not to their liking.

        2. Lifelogic
          August 4, 2025

          +1

        3. Mickey Taking
          August 4, 2025

          Your last line has always been the case, drop the ‘now’.

  6. Wanderer
    August 4, 2025

    This pathetic tinkering fools no-one. We can all see that a government with one of the biggest Parliamentary majorities ever won’t stop unwanted aliens entering our country illegally, despite this being a key electoral promise.

    Meanwhile the despised Trump has dramatically reduced illegal entry to the US, despite his very slim political majority and hostile activist judiciary: Mexican border encounters are down, from approximately 100,000 per month to 8,000. And of course, “encounters” now mean instant deportations.

    We are stuck with a weak, deceitful, unpatriotic government which simply pretends to do something and doesn’t even care if we see through the spin. It, and the blob, loathe the things which most ordinary people think make (made) our country a pleasant one. They will not help us. Who would fight for Starmer’s UK?

    1. Dave Andrews
      August 4, 2025

      Greece too has shut off the flow of migrants from Libya, due to their recent tough measures. Their actions cause consternation in remote Brussels, but let’s see whether other EU countries follow suit.

    2. JP
      August 4, 2025

      +1
      Not me

  7. Old Albion
    August 4, 2025

    If there is no will to stop the boats, they won’t be stopped. If there was a will to stop the boats they would be stopped and returned to France.
    P.S. the illegals mobile phones will be found on the seabed of the English Channel. No matter, the government gives them new ones when they’re settled in their hotel rooms.

    1. outsider
      August 4, 2025

      Absolutely, Old Albion. The boats and backs of lorries are a security issue not primarily an immigration issue.
      Most of us have never had to flee our country to escape persecution or death because of who we are. If it ever happened to me I would desperately try to retain verifiable evidence of my identity or, if that proved impossible, memorize phone numbers of people back home who could vouch for me. Such people should be treated sympathetically and checked quickly.
      The rest should be sent to an internment camp as enemy aliens ( as others have suggested) until they could demonstrate otherwise or agree a return. Those who take the helm of the boats should immediately be charged with conspiracy to commit all manner of UK crimes and be remanded in custody pending trial.
      And all that might well be acceptable to the ECHR.

  8. Berkshire Alan.
    August 4, 2025

    John
    I am afraid that the only conclusion we can now make is that successive Governments cannot be bothered to try and stop illegal immigration.
    The Justice system and Law and order is breaking down in the UK, like so many other things now including the Tax and Benefits system, it is no longer fit for purpose, and has become completely unbalanced due mainly to its complexity and irrationality.

    1. Lifelogic
      August 4, 2025

      Follow the money to lawyers, to companies like Capita, to relatives and friends of government Ministers etc, to accommodation providers and intermediates. Rather like net zero and the Covid vaccines follow the money!

  9. herebefore
    August 4, 2025

    Yes it is a big mistake letting them live wherever they want adding to the ghettos already in the making – as suggested there are several isolated islands up north so provide them with tents and a weekly food drop and that should do. The question is what would we do in a war situation if we had to mind some thousands of foreign prisoners of war – same thing so just get on with it

  10. Sakara Gold
    August 4, 2025

    Regardless of Labour’s assertion that they will “stop the boats” the public clearly does not believe them. Asylum seekers make up the majority. Once accepted as having a “genuine” case for asylum, they immediately have access to benefits, housing, the NHS etc. Most of them are found work, documentation, driving licences etc in the black economy by the gangs that get them in. Now, registered charities are bringing in their relatives and children! Once here, their children get free education, healthcare etc. No wonder these people are travelling across whole continents to get here

    This is costing us £billions. Already, the Labour government has attempted to soak the disabled and stop the pensioners winter fuel allowance to pay for them. Accurate figures are hard to come by, but many sources are claiming that 20-22% of the population were not born here. Muhammad was the commonest boys name registered here in 2024!

    Enough is enough. Many folk want taxpayer’s money spent on indigenous Brits; the level of immigration is now starting to cause social unrest. We need a 5 year holiday where we will not accept any more immigrants. Meanwhile, intern them in tent cities on Scottish islands while we organise repatriation.

    1. Lifelogic
      August 4, 2025

      We do not believe they are even “trying” to stop the boats, but then it was almost as bad under the Con-Socialists Sunak even went to the country 6 months early rather than even trying to tackle the issue. Then we had the Afghan supper injunction! Total and utter contempt for voters and tax payers?

      1. Lifelogic
        August 4, 2025

        super rather!

        1. Mickey Taking
          August 4, 2025

          I expect the hotels serve supper on request.

  11. NigL
    August 4, 2025

    And where are all the necessary enforcement people going to come from and who pays?

    The previous Tory government also failed miserably to deal with the same issues. Easy to trot out a list which most probably agree with but as ever no viable solutions.

    Badenoch equivocates over the ECHR, in reality, in my view being dishonest, because she was forced to bring Cleverley back to try and neutralise him but as a One Nation Tory who were the major blockage last time.

    Ll rightly points out the police are also under resourced to deal with petty crime. Well done Theresa May for starting that.

    I suggest it is nonsense to suggest the Home Secretary doesn’t care. It is an issue skewering them politically and less so the Tories leading to the rise of Reform. Unless there is a miracle Labour are already done at the next election hence their desperation in appeasing the Muslim and Palestinian vote.

    Their only chance is a fragmented Right with the increasingly irrelevant Tories splitting the vote.

  12. Mick
    August 4, 2025

    On arrival illegal migrants should be asked who organised their trip
    No that’s shouldn’t happen what should happen is not to be collected half way across the Chanel by the taxi service but sent straight back to France and any that do make it through to be put on a RAF transporter plane and taken to some island away from GB or dump them on the Falkland Islands , we are being invaded and have been for the last 30 odd years and allowed to happen by Labour/conservatives/ lib-dems

  13. Berkshire Alan.
    August 4, 2025

    Off topic
    Why are people going to get compensation for a car purchase loan, when the borrowing amount and repayment figures, and interest rates were in writing, on an agreement which they read and signed.
    Who cares who got paid wages, commission, or profit, the customer agreed to the cost, and terms and condition of such payments.
    They chose to sign an agreement, and had the choice to refuse or go elsewhere for finance, like a Bank !.
    All this so called modelling has now got completely out of hand.
    Next we will be getting home owners wanting compensation on a mortgage when the bank rate increases ?????

    1. Ian B
      August 4, 2025

      @Berkshire Alan. – because a Judge took it upon themselves to reinterpret a badly formed Law, created by an ill-informed Parliament, Its the thin end of the wedge, the money in the pocket of the Law Profession (sic).

      Car dealers all get commission from producers that is different every-time. Interest free loans aren’t interest free, deferred payment isn’t free. They are all nuances on the commission payments outlets receive. Super markets get different incentives to promote different products.

      It won’t stop at the car finance, that wasn’t as ‘hidden’ as the media suggests. Now it about opening other doors, other revenue streams.

      It is the Law helping fund its own profession as a result of a incompetent Parliament that is now run by a Lawyer. Do Lawyers say how much of their fees are paid to others in commission – of course they dont

      Who pays all these Lawyers – the consumer!

      1. Ian B
        August 4, 2025

        ‘The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) on Sunday said motorists who had taken out loans to pay for their vehicles which included secret commission agreements between banks and dealers.’
        Who elected them and whom are they accountable too?

        The trade body who say they represent the sellers “I just think that is completely impractical. It is not just firms that don’t have the details about contracts back then, customers don’t either.”

        The FCA want to give up to £950 without proof by either party – who pays, the consumer once more! There is no one else, The FCA can pat themselves on the back, for the sake of ego, the Law profession gets to receive commission without fully disclosing all those they pay commission to.

        The FCA has still to act on its own fiasco – liability-driven investment (LDI) . There they are responsible and they do nothing

      2. dixie
        August 4, 2025

        “It is the Law helping fund its own profession as a result of a incompetent Parliament that is now run by a Lawyer. Do Lawyers say how much of their fees are paid to others in commission – of course they dont”

        This is the root of a lot of problems – lawyers dreaming up complications that only lawyers can arbitrate and “resolve” .. at our cost.

    2. Peter Parsons
      August 4, 2025

      Perhaps because consumers were being ripped off by a dishonest scheme where a finance company would offer a particular deal at a particular interest rate to the dealer, but the dealer could then choose (without the end customer knowing what was originally offered) to increase that interest rate for the sole purpose of increasing the commission that the dealer received.

      DCAs were an incentive for dishonest behaviour (as was PPI). They were banned for good reason.

      1. Ian B
        August 4, 2025

        @Peter Parsons – At all times the buyer had freedom of choice, it was never and is still not compulsory to use their offer of finance. “caveat emptor” is still a legal term even in this UK

      2. dixie
        August 4, 2025

        What in your description was “dishonest” behaviour?
        The supermarkets don’t reveal their cost of product and profit margins, what import duty is paid nor what bulk discounting the achieve – are you saying this is dishonest behaviour.
        When I compare prices I compare the price of goods to me and buy from competing sellers, I don’t compare the nitty gritty details of the cost.

        Reply The large quoted supermarkets show gross and net margins, which are low by corporate standards. This sector is highly price and cost competitive.

        1. Ian B
          August 4, 2025

          @Reply – I think you missed the meaning of what was being responded to, is it dishonest that in every walk of life we pay other peoples wages, commissions, without the specifics of what they are. Each car dealer gets to buy cars at on a commission based deal from the manufacturer – that is not disclosed to the consumer – we expect them to get paid, and we accept it happens

        2. dixie
          August 4, 2025

          @reply yes they do publish corporate accounts as required but in the context of the comment that information is not made available at the individual product level that would then influence my choice to buy or not.

    3. dixie
      August 4, 2025

      Quite so – when I did this I agreed to the overall costs of the deal to me, I didn’t go looking at how the payment was apportioned to various parties.

  14. Berkshire Alan.
    August 4, 2025

    Oops Predictive text strikes again.
    “modelling”, should read mollycoddling.

  15. glen cullen
    August 4, 2025

    The law is already there ….why isn’t the opposition shouting about this
    ‘Section 44 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 covers the offense of intentionally encouraging or assisting another person to commit a crime’

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      August 4, 2025

      The governing class are accustomed to a law abiding population. Enforcement not really necessary. They just pass laws.
      They are snookered now.

  16. Brian Tomkinson
    August 4, 2025

    It would seem that, rather than smashing the gangs, the government is aiding and abetting them.

    1. Lifelogic
      August 4, 2025

      Aiding, abetting and incentivising them with hotels, money, phones, gifts, scooters, cleaners, illegal jobs, tax free pay…

  17. MPC
    August 4, 2025

    It’s always been a dream of the Left to take over a western nation and turn it into a fully socialist state. That’s what’s happening and it was facilitated previously by the conservative government. Starmer has said that all immigration laws are racist and, since becoming PM, that ‘we will never leave the ECHR’. Every town in England now is, or is about to become, unsafe and especially to women and girls. Representative democracy is in tatters and Reform is no panacea – they have not undertaken to do what is necessary to rid our country of economic migrants/criminals.

    1. Christine
      August 4, 2025

      Even my small village is getting more and more asylum seekers. The tenants who occupied the local old MOD properties have been given notice to leave. Let’s see who moves in. This government is disgusting. They seem to think that we won’t notice that their answer to emptying the hotels is to move these unvetted and potentially dangerous men to live amongst us. We are no longer safe in our communities, and politicians, apart from Rupert Lowe, don’t care.

    2. Jim+Whitehead
      August 4, 2025

      MPC, I concur with your comments, and your conclusion is, to my regret, all too accurate.
      There is that gaping gap in the resolve of Reform to propose an effective and satisfactory solution. It could well be that just one important statement on the issue by either of the former ‘big’ Parties, if accepted as being sincere, would rapidly drain the support of Reform and show that the promise of Reform being that new and different Party was an illusion disappearing like early dawn mist.

  18. DaveM
    August 4, 2025

    “Ok guys, we’re up against hard core criminal gangs that have no regard for the law and no respect for human life. They operate in areas out of our jurisdiction and will probably die in a ditch to protect their interests. So what shall we use? Special police units? international collaboration with similar international partners? Armed NCA agents?”

    “No, let’s ban social media adverts”

    “Brilliant Tarquin. That’ll do it. More tofu?”

    Utterly pathetic. At least people seem to have woken up at last. Not that you’d know it from the MSM.

    1. Lifelogic
      August 4, 2025

      +1

  19. Paul Wooldridge
    August 4, 2025

    This Government and its Home Secretary will come up with lots of ideas to sort out the illegal immigrants to show us all that positive and decisive action is being taken.
    But look back over the last 10 years and all these ideas have not worked and billions of tax payers money has been spent and the knock on effect on the NHS,schools,housing has been exponential.
    The situation is now worse than ever so why should we believe that this Home Secretary has the magic touch.
    Politicians aren’t bold enough or clever enough to come up with an effective solution which is to send these immigrants back to where they came from if they are here illegally and request them to apply for the right to enter the UK BEFORE they arrive here.They should disregard the ECHR and instruct the Courts to be tough on illegal immigration and uphold the law.The police and border force agents need more powers to be able to export illegals back to their own countries within 12 hours of arrival and be held accountable if they don’t.
    If Trump can do it in the USA why can’t the UK?

  20. Tim Shaw
    August 4, 2025

    Agreed, but that will make no difference to the already deluded.
    Why do successive governments insist on passing more and more laws when all they need to do is enforce those that already exist

  21. Ian B
    August 4, 2025

    Sir John

    They could try prosecuting those aiding and abetting people smugglers and criminal entry, as such those that are in-effect helping fund criminal activity – the RNLI, the Red Cross, the coast Guard, CareforCalais. Those organisations all receive taxpayer funding that they get to use to encourage illegal organisations.

    I find it abhorrent that the RNLI puts volunteers lives at risk for the sake of management ego of wanting to fund illegal operations.

    There will be no stopping these illegal actions until the Government and Parliament wish it.

  22. Duyfken
    August 4, 2025

    If the mobile phones of illegal migrants are to be examined, it will need the English Channel to be dredged.

    Reply Border Force could take the phones when the people transfer to the BF vessel

    1. Mike Durrans
      August 4, 2025

      Wise up ! they are gone long before that !

    2. miami.mode
      August 4, 2025

      Reply to reply Not necessarily true. From the Telegraph via msn “Ministers unveiled a plan in January to crack down on people-smuggling by allowing Border Force and immigration enforcement to compel new arrivals to hand over their devices.
      The proposal in the Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill was aimed at helping investigators to identify and track down people-smugglers organising Channel crossings.
      It would reverse a High Court ruling last year, which said the Home Office had been unlawfully operating a blanket policy of seizing phones from people arriving on small boats. Dame Angela Eagle said the Home Office would not be seeking the phones of every migrant who arrived on a small boat”.
      Apparently the Bill is currently going through the Lords.
      The old lags run the show – Lawyers Against Government.

  23. Lynn Atkinson
    August 4, 2025

    Illegal migrants should be given a choice, return home or go to the front line in Ukraine. Ukraine is desperately short of manpower. Europe is desperate to help Ukraine, ergo these fit, huge strong fighting men can be of some use – target practise for the Russians.

    Why should they ‘escape the war at home’ and live in luxury in the U.K. when British people are payin* their hotel bills and sending their own sons to fight in Ukraine?

  24. CdB
    August 4, 2025

    There are plenty of countries around the world that have more effective systems than UK, why don’t we learn from them? Denmark, Australia, now Greece for example.
    Why do so many people and politicians not think through the incentives they are giving and how people will react compared to what they wish? This is a more general comment than just illegal immigration

  25. Christine
    August 4, 2025

    Already, the use of VPNs is being restricted. I can no longer watch Amazon Prime if my VPN is switched on, and for a long time, I have been unable to comment on YouTube. The Government is setting up an elite unit to monitor social media. This tells you where their priorities lie. We are becoming a police state on a par with North Korea and China.

    1. Peter
      August 4, 2025

      C,

      I thought we already had the army 77th brigade doing the monitoring.

    2. Ian B
      August 4, 2025

      @Christine – you are the property of the State. On the upside the person that looks back in the mirror is no longer responsible.

  26. JayCee
    August 4, 2025

    We live in an increasingly lawless society where even the lawmakers flagrantly disregard the law.

  27. Michael Saxton
    August 4, 2025

    Those who ‘skipper’ boats are operating unlicensed commercial craft at sea which is a specific offence plus all on board are conspiring to enter our country illegally. None have valid passports, or valid ID yet this hapless government and their media acolytes insist in calling them ‘irregular migrants’. It’s clear Border Force and French Navy vessels are coordinating illegal crossings thus facilitating this illegal activity. Then there’s Home Office incompetence when commandeering hotel accommodation for illegals revealing astonishing arrogance and insensitivity towards local people. No wonder local people are rising up. ‘Starmer’s much lauded ‘Smash the Gangs’ mantra is a total failure, as predicted, hence the huge rise in illegals. He should have given the Rwanda Scheme a chance to at least prove its viability but instead he arrogantly cancelled the legislation, preferring to play the game of vindictive politics completely disregarding the costs already expended and the possibility the scheme just might prove a useful deterrent? Now he faces an increasingly angry nation and ever increasing number of illegals arriving. This will blow up, people have had enough.

    1. miami.mode
      August 4, 2025

      Nobody has come up with an answer as to why the French would want to hang on to any of these illegal immigrants. The immigrants motto could be “a l’eau c’est l’heure” when greeted by Border Force or RNLI.

  28. agricola
    August 4, 2025

    Were 2TK or Mrs Balls intent on ending this nonesense they would;

    1. Cancel the pull factors

    2. Use the illegality of boat arrivals to detain them in POW style camps pending vetting.

    3. Those who fail vetting to be offered two options. Return to country of origin or a work camp in West Falkland.

    4. No offer of legal aid to end ambulance chasing lawyers enrichment.

    5. Leave the ECHR.

    That would be the deterent that would end the traffic.

    Follow it by removing the estimated 2m illegals roaming free in the UK. Train our own people for ommissions in the workforce. Strickter control of legal immigration.

    Will it happen, no. 2TK and the Home Office like it.

    1. Ian B
      August 4, 2025

      @agricola – you would struggle with point to that would be akin to admitting that we live in a two tier country where lawyers feed layers. You should also ask why is the taxpayer funding Care4Calais a law firm business chasing arm of UK Law outlets

  29. margaret campbell-white
    August 4, 2025

    Hear! hear!

  30. Keith from Leeds
    August 4, 2025

    It takes a lot to upset the people of the UK, but immigration, both legal and illegal, is doing it. We are a tolerant people who have accepted immigrants for many years. But, as a nation, we have had enough. We are allowing far too many people in, especially from cultures that don’t have the same values as ours.
    It seems no Government for the last 25 years, and especially the last ten, wants to do anything about immigration, legal or illegal. We have had a succession of weak PMs, Chancellors and Home Secretaries who are either defying the will of the voters, or couldn’t care less about the problem, or are not tough enough to tackle it.
    No one who arrives illegally should be allowed to stay, all legal aid should be stopped, and they should be returned to their home country or deported to somewhere far away with minimal facilities. All the government Ministers who have allowed unlimited immigration should then be prosecuted for malfeasance in public office.

    1. Ian B
      August 4, 2025

      @Keith from Leeds – in law doing an illegal act is criminal. Hence we have arrived at the 2 tier system of justice one law for one sector and another elsewhere

  31. Mickey Taking
    August 4, 2025

    Two men have appeared in court charged in connection with the rape of a 12-year-old girl in Nuneaton.
    (one ed) faces two rape charges, while ( the other. ed) is accused of kidnap, strangulation and aiding and abetting the rape of a girl aged under 13.
    Warwickshire County Council leader George Finch has alleged the two men were asylum seekers, which the BBC has been unable to verify independently, and accused Warwickshire Police and the Home Office of covering up their immigration status. Police refused to disclose further details, saying: “Once someone is charged with an offence, we follow national guidance. This guidance does not include sharing ethnicity or immigration status.”
    In a statement to the BBC the Home Office said: “Foreign nationals who commit crimes should be in no doubt that the law will be enforced and justice delivered.”

  32. Peter Gardner
    August 4, 2025

    With regard to points 2 and 5, I cannot understand why ARt 4 of the ECHR is not enforced. It  specifically provides for, “the lawful arrest or detention of a person to prevent his effecting an unauthorised entry into the country or of a person against whom action is being taken with a view to deportation or extradition.”
    Asylum seekers have no right to pick and choose which country to go to and neither do they have a right to come to UK after spending months or years in France as the protection of the UN Convention Art 31 does not apply if travelling from a safe country unless it was a planned short stopover. The Dublin agreement requires asylum seekers to apply for asylum in the first EU country they enter. It is not UK’s problem if they move from that country to France, as UK is not a signatory to that agreement. Under both the UN Convention on Refugees and the Dublin Agreement France has the responsibility to look after genuine asylum seekers who have come to France directly from the country in which they face persecution. It is noteworthy that a high proportion of those continuing on to UK have been refused asylum in France and have been formally ordered to leave France. How convenient that they can hop on a boat to UK!
    UNCLOS (Art 33) gives the UK the right to enforce Art 5 of the ECHR and its domestic law in the Contiguous Zone beyond its Territorial Limit in The Channel by acting to prevent a breach. The boats should be turned back to France when the weather is safe. In unsafe weather the boat drivers can be arrested and charged under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 with endangering human life at sea and assisting unlawful entry into the UK. The passengers should be taken back to France (under the SOALS rules as France is the nearest safe landing place) where they are safe and their applications for asylum are registered. If registered with another EU signatory to the Dublin Agreement it is France’s problem, not the UK’s.
    Why is it so difficult? The truth is that it is not difficult but UK lacks the political will to stand up for the British people aginst France and the EU. it is as simple as that.

    1. Peter Gardner
      August 4, 2025

      Oops Art 5 of the ECHR, not Art 4.

  33. Original Richard
    August 4, 2025

    The Civil Service et al have no wish to “smash the gangs”. Gus O’Donnell, when Cabinet Secretary, said in 2011: “When I was at the Treasury I argued for the most open door possible to immigration … I think it’s my job to maximise global welfare not national welfare.”

    1. Mickey Taking
      August 4, 2025

      Curious that CS employees, even very senior ones seem to think they are employed by and paid by some mythical global owner! Well Gus needs to get it into all thick heads that us taxpayers are his employer.

  34. Ian B
    August 4, 2025

    ‘immigration is creating “serious problems” for public services and living standards, a senior official at the Government’s fiscal watchdog has warned.’

    ‘David Miles, an executive at the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), said Labour must prioritise getting Britons back to work instead of relying on overseas workers to grow the economy.’

    The frightening thing is the OBR has never been right on anything, but they are now seeing what the rest of us see

  35. Ian B
    August 4, 2025

    Latest media update – Germany shows UK how it’s done after cutting asylum seeker arrivals by 50% in 6 months
    German Chancellor Friedrich Merz pledged to get a grip on immigration and border security when campaigning for election ahead of May’s general election. Since gaining power, Germany has tightened its border controls, stopped family reunification and abolished a fast-track naturalisation process.
    Just having the will and it happens

  36. mancunius
    August 4, 2025

    Well said, Sir John.
    Of course, the Home Secretary knows all this. She and other ministers are under orders to find something to divert attention from these inconvenient truths. A ploy which is immediately seen through by everyone in the country, who as a result then furiously rage outside hotels against the migrants and the government’s po-faced police force.
    I think Starmer and Hermer are both trying to foment civil disturbances, but without having enough prison places to lock up the entire nation.

  37. Diane
    August 5, 2025

    One of the announcements from the H Sec is that the crowding of 80 persons ( or over 80 ? ) on migrant boats will become a criminal offence. We know that boat sizes being used have increased but why choose the figure of 80 ? I suspect few boats arrive with 80 / 80+. 70 has been seen I believe. Makes little sense and how that’s to be enforced not clear. As clear as how the advertisers of crossings will be able to be prosecuted. Suppose there’s a lot of unknown detail to all this but not reassuring.

  38. Linda Brown
    August 6, 2025

    This mob are yesterday’s chip paper. Why don’t they do something that the public want? They are pathetic, useless and no good at running this once great country. The land is supreme, it is what is living on it in human form that is the problem.

  39. George sheard
    August 6, 2025

    Hi sir john
    The BBC have been under cover investigating the small boat they have discovered that agent for the people smugglers are operating from Birmingham new street railway station right under the nose of government the UK is part of the smugglers gangs no wonder we have so many illegal migrants coming all the government’s seem to want the illegals to come have you any thoughts on this

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