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The UK has a long history of independence and self governing democracy. We voted decisively to leave the EU in 2016 to take back control of our taxes and laws. Only a new referendum could overturn that decision of the people. There is no sign people wish to surrender control again.
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The UK growth rate halved over our 48 years in the EU compared to the 20 years before we joined. People do not want to lock back into a low growth high tax system.
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Rejoining would mean imposing a new EU tax to pay for membership. The cost would be considerably more than when we were in, as we would lose the rebate Mrs Thatcher secured, and the EU budget is now much bigger.
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The UK state has too much debt of our own, but we would become jointly liable for £ 750 bn of EU debt as well, where our share would be around £110 bn.
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The UK would be expected to scrap the pound and join the Euro. When we last had to join the European Exchange Rate scheme we helped undermine it and fell into a nasty recession.
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The UK would have to rejoin the Customs Union, impose a lot of tariffs to make goods dearer for business and consumers, and lose our trade Agreements with many other countries including TPP, Australia, India and New Zealand.
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The UK would lose its voice and vote on important international bodies like the WTO and would have to accept EU foreign policies, diminishing our global influence.
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The EU based on the Draghi Report knows it is losing competitiveness and falling way behind the US owing to costly and damaging regulation. We would have to adopt all those laws that hold the EU back.
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The UK would be expected to allow freedom of movement which could mean many more people coming to the UK adding to the housing shortage and the pressures on the NHS and other public services.
- Accepting the full net zero and common energy policy would mean even dearer UK energy, worsening the cost of living problems and closing down more industry.
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October 5, 2026
All good reasons but surely the main reason is that it that it further destroys UK democracy (what little we have in the UK). What is the point of electing MP if they have given virtually all their powers away to the EU, Quangos, the BoE, Ofcom, the dire lefty judiciary, the WHO, English Nature, the Blob…
October 5, 2026
@Lifelogic – those short sentences sum up the problems in the UK, the mission creap that infests
our society. Do we elect MPs as the Manager’s or as Dictating Rulers?
Should the HoC be the effective ‘board’ of UK.plc selected and answerable, and at all times open to challenge from the shareholders, or are they order taking disciples for some unelected unaccountable cabal that allows them to sit on thier hands and take the money?
It would appear those against the former are the lazy Muppets that now infest our once great institutions that thought being appointed by a Gang Boss was them made for life.
We need an effective responsible HoC, not a pseudo local council
October 5, 2026
+1 they want to be MPs and Minsiters yet they want to give all their powers away to Quangos, international bodies and the EU?
October 5, 2026
Ideology not common sense is what drives people like Burnham. I often wonder why politicians we elect do everything counter to UK interests. Last night we witnessed what can only be described as a military operation off the South Coast when boat loads of invaders were greeted and made welcome by the Home Office stooges.
Rejoining the EU will mean every new arrival to the EU with travel documents will be free to travel to the UK for a lifetime of benefits. Surely we are reaching a tipping point but hey ho the bus fares are only £2.
October 5, 2026
From Kemi’s the Right Way:-
‘Net Zero by 2050 is impossible. I don’t say that with
pleasure – I want a better environment for my children
too.
So Kemi you obviouly think that very slightly lower CO2 plant, tree and crop food will give our children a better environment do you? Why? I thought you were an engineer? Even a computer engineer should know this is wrong. The world has had ice ages with levels of C02 several times higher. Very many things affect the climate and CO2 is only one of them and not even a very important one. It is not even the main green house gas.
I searched the document for an apology for the £600 bn lunacy of the net harm Covid Lockdowns and the net harm Covid Vaccines and the blatant lies about the Covid Origins nothing what so ever. Covid only appears as an excuse for the many Tory failures during this period.
October 5, 2026
Kemi in her Right Way does rightly mention “doom loop”:-
“The Wrong Way therefore produces predictable cycles such as the ‘tax doom
loop’. Government makes productive activity harder. Growth disappoints.
Ministers spend, subsidise or regulate to compensate, and then taxes and
borrowing rise, and then business finds it harder to carry out productive
activity. Rinse and repeat. Breaking that cycle will require more than a
collection of tax cuts or a list of regulations to repeal. It requires a revolution
based on a wholly different understanding of what government is for.”
What government is for Defence, Law and Order and not very much more.
It is not just a tax doom loop it is also a red tape doom too, a lack of confidence doom loop, a net zero doom loop, a size of the state sector doom loop also a rigged markets doom loop (energy, vehicles, transport, universities, banking, housing, employment, schools, healthcare… no real need for nearly 100 pages 2 sides or A4 would have done.
October 5, 2026
How I wish John Redwood would join Reform. A common sense person who would provide ‘ballast’ is not really the right word but I mean stability, wisdom, support for NF etc. Many years ago I printed off a list of companies UK lost to EU because they were offered grants to go there. Fairly sure that was produced by JR. Dealing with other European companies on equal footing sensible. That’s what we were told when we voted to enter. Gradually it changed to a rule-based dictatorship which was not what we wanted.
October 6, 2026
Munch’s The Scream ..
I really, really take seriously and joyfully, ‘I will not cease from Mental Fight, Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand: Till we have built Jerusalem.’
We need a miracle / the miracle-like to break the inevitable cycle that you rightly point out.
Divine intervention. Like the role Christianity played in helping to create our great country in the first place: Oxford, Cambridge, medieval cathedrals and churches and towns and villages and buildings in general, Sir Christopher Wren, the monarchy, Windsor Castle, grammar schools, Parliament, the Judiciary, Eton, Winchester, guilds, Queen Elizabeth I (who called herself God’s servant), Jane Austen (devoutly religious), Sir Isaac Newton (Biblical scholar), Handel (The Messiah etc), work ethic, family values, everyday values such as cheerfulness, depending on self and family instead of state, the Quakers in business, and so on.
‘And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!
And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?
Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:
Bring me my Chariot of fire!
I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land’
– William Blake
October 5, 2026
I thought you didn’t like ‘important international bodies’ like the UN.
Reply I did not cite the UN. I talked about the WTO where the EU stops its members having their own voice and vote. I have never said I dislike the UN.
October 5, 2026
@Reply – in the same manner as so many things the UN suffers the decrease of mission creep so much so they actually appear to believe they are ‘The World Government ‘
October 5, 2026
hundreds of invaders helped in yesterday by the state. old locals stopped at checkpoints by police and not allowed back to their own homes unless they can provide papers proving their address. lots of coaches, police, ambulances facilitating out of control immigration. the British state is not legitimate, and neither is the European one, or the French and German ones. we are at war, and the British state is on the side of the enemy.
October 5, 2026
I thought the King was visiting. That level of security for our new British.
October 5, 2026
@Iain Gill – comes things up well. Those leant powers and paid to do a job are abusing those whose powers they are and those that pay the bills.
October 6, 2026
Sums, not comes
October 5, 2026
We are at war, and the British state is on the side of the enemy. This seems correct and the US clearly (correctly in my view) do not even trust us to defend RAF Fairford sufficiently.
So the 3p per mile for EVs is to start in April 28, But to be comparable to tax on petrol/diesel it should be more like 7p which is doubtless what it soon will be. Even less reason to buy an EV – keep your old petrol or diesel as long as you can. It is far cheaper to buy and per mile, far more practical, less tyre wear, cheaper to insure, far less depreciation, far better range, faster to refil, no need for £12K new batteries after 8 years and it even saves CO2 should that (quite wrongly) bother you.
October 5, 2026
In the Telegraph today by JR “Labour War on Pensioners Must End”. Indeed it should but it is also an insane war on the hard working, private school users, landlords, employers, non doms, road users, energy users, down sizers, and people who want free speech, real and fair non two tier justice and a sound non doom loop economy.
The Tories started this war by freezing income tax thresholds, CGT and IHT allowance and ratting on Osborne £1m IHT promise of circa 19 years back – it is still £325k now worth more like £200k.
October 5, 2026
Mr Griffith will pledge to abolish two “dysfunctional” quangos (only two), the National England and Environment Agency, which have been accused of subjecting farmers and developers to needless red tape.
Natural England is accused of stopping 160,000 homes being built by insisting that developers abide by strict nutrient neutrality regulations, which are designed to lower river pollution.
They also imposed a £700 million “fish disco” acoustic deterrent system on Hinkley Point C, which will save one salmon every 12 years. Plus the HS2 bat tunnel lunacy.
FINE but why would we trust you this time after the Cameron through to Sunak record of doing the exact reverse Mr Griffiths?
Reply there will be more quango reductions to come. Yes this will happen once a Conservative government takes office.
October 5, 2026
Is this the same as the bonfire of Quangos talked about by Cameron 16 years ago.
Reply No. This will be a real fire come a Conservative government.
October 5, 2026
Reply to reply. Exactly as promised previously and not delivered
October 6, 2026
@Reply. Any Quango that has an element of Taxpayer funding, or for that matter given authority to ‘lord’ over us should at all times have full Parliamentary oversight – at least a Minister accepting full responsibility for the Quangos output. That is what is meant by democracy. Or look at it another way ‘why’ have Parliament itself, if when can hand rule to friends of friends.
October 5, 2026
@Lifelogic – the mission creap that has no checks and balances. Starts well meaning, then is distorted through Parliaments ‘refusal’ to manage because that is to much like work, like them doing the job they have been empowered and paid to do
October 5, 2026
tell us about Kemi’s announcement to abolish the Financial ombudsman service? although that is something I have wanted for a long time, what it gets replaced with will be critical. why are the justifications all about how bad the FOS is for the banks, and not how bad it is for consumers?
October 5, 2026
Sir, you have lost. Move on. No one in UK political life is trying to defend Brexit. Ten years on, we have the receipts – it’s been a monumental failure. We will re-join.
Reply You lost and produce no good reason to rejoin. All the terms you will be offered by EU will make us poorer.
October 5, 2026
No one rational and informed wants to rejoin it would be economic and immigration insanity and totally anti-democratic.
October 5, 2026
@JiK: Kemi Badenoch says she doesn’t want to reopen the Brexit issue, and Reform are definitely pro-Brexit. So when you say no politician defends Brexit, that means the only politicians you are willing to recognise are on the left. A nice example of left-wing totalitarianism.
October 5, 2026
My point exactly – Badenoch wants to talk about anything except Brexit because she knows Brexit has failed and talking about it is a voteloser. As for Reform, when did you last hear Farage telling us how great Brexit is? 2016? – he knows it’s failed and he too would rather talk about anything else
Reply Stop the lies. Kemi’s deputy set out the Conservative view on EU Re Set clearly and well yesterday.
October 5, 2026
Dear John in Kent, almost no one in political life supported Brexit.
That was and is irrelevant. The POLITICAL CLASS IS OUR SERVANT.
In a democracy the People are the true Sovereigns.
We gave direct instructions.
If you make us repeat those instructions, or try to gerrymander in ANY WAY, the instructions we give, including ‘stop the illegal and gerrymandered legal immigration’ you will find that it is unwise to oppose 66 million Britons.
October 5, 2026
POLITICAL CLASS IS OUR SERVANT alas they are not they should be. We need more direct democracy not control via often very dishonest and corrupt MPs, the lefty judiciary and via the BLOB too.
October 5, 2026
@John in Kent – how can something be lost, when it never existed. The only loss is democracy, the refusal of Parliament to act on the wishes of the people. We have a lazy incompetent Parliament that has refused what they are paid to do, manage the UK
October 5, 2026
Parliament acted on the wishes of the people – we left the EU. I agree that Parliament is not now managing the UK well, but a drop of 6-8% in GDP as a result of Brexit makes its job impossible. Once we’ve rejoined the EU – now favoured by over 60% of voters and almost all voters under the age of 40 – things will improve
October 5, 2026
rather predictably the BBC is pushing a pack of lies about yesterdays massive import of illegal immigrants by the British state. don’t the bbc realise we can all see the truth online now? the bbc needs shutting down as part of the anti British enemy.
October 5, 2026
The BBC propoganda outfit (on immigration, net zero, energy, Covid Origens, Covid “ vaccines” and lockdowns on Trump, supporting of the doom loop economic agenda, anti semitism…) is appalling an enemy of the people who are forced to fund it – to endlessly lie to them.
October 5, 2026
When the question of rejoining the EU comes up, we simply have to look at the collective in Europe and ask is it greater than the sum of its members? Does the EU impart some form of security not available to member nations individually? The answer is clearly no as there is no EU defence forces though the Commission would like to have them to control the members.
Does the EU reduce the cost of living, No because it is an additional level of bureaucracy sitting on top of an already bureaucratic collection of parish councils, town councils, Mayors, district councils, regional authorities devolved assemblies and National government. We do not need yet another layer of authority over us.
Does the EU provide a recipe for wealth creation? Clearly not as the whole of Europe has fallen back in terms of world trade ranking/provision and income per person has been falling compared with the other major Western power block the USA.
Does the EU have a solution to the uncontrolled migrant problem. Clearly not when we look at France with its culture riots, Spain where invasions of tens of thousands of North Africans invaded Ceuta recently shows what is waiting in the wings. The free movement across the continent allows the incoming migrants to travel freely to wherever they choose. That would be to the UK where benefits availability act as a magnet.
There is no even a trade gain if we rejoined the EU. The 43 years we were member prior to the referendum was the steepest decline in UK manufactures ever.
There is no positive aspect associated with rejoining the failing EU.
October 5, 2026
For a medium sized country in Northwest Europe there is only one thing worse than being in the EU. That is not being in the EU. We have to work together, we have no friends in America, China or Russia, and please be aware Canada, Australia and NZ want links with the EU not with us so forget the Commonwealth
October 6, 2026
Gordon, if you think there is some merit in being bossed about by European officials that we have zero authority over then please outline your thinking. As far as working with the ‘Europeans’ goes, look at how working with the French is going.
The German Chancellor actually said on camera Britain must be made to suffer for leaving the EU that is how mindful of our well being Germany was. Their attitude was make them suffer. With friends like those we are better off in every way following Churchill’s words. If we have to choose between Europe and the sea, we must always choose the sea.
October 6, 2026
No idea what you mean. No one in the EU is bossed about by Europen officials. Do you mean the Commission? It merely does what the member states have agreed in the treaty
October 6, 2026
I note you pick up some straw man argument introducing the Commission rather than responding to the stance adopted by France and Germany to our well being?
I won’t engage with this diversion tactic re the Commission, suffice to say, if you feel the Commission is reflective of any individual Nation’s needs/desires, you have not studied the actuality of it..
October 5, 2026
police officers openly saying on camera ‘I think this is absolutely disgusting but I have a job to do and a family to provide for’ you wont see that on the BBC
the government and serco who are organising this for them need to fall soon
October 5, 2026
INDEED very little BBC or other MSM coverage of the French riots either.
October 5, 2026
The only reason that a lot of the so called new and some older MPs want back into the EU is so they have a fall back by saying it’s EU policy and we have to follow there protocol, also most schools are pumping our kids with the EU being utopia for them, well it isn’t Europe is a very nice place to visit but not to be run by them , so let’s get the word out that we are better off out and a very good starting point to start is for a General Election to get this bunch of spineless pond life out of office for good
October 5, 2026
All EU citizens will be available for conscription to ight whatever war the EU wants to fight. That means your sons and maybe daughters too, going to fight on the front line in Ukraine.
That is what surrendering citizenship of a country where we can sack Governments and even unseat Kings means – you crawl and die because Ursula says so.
There would have to be a referendum, and if you vote for that you deserve all you get.
The young have most to enjoy…or endure.
October 5, 2026
50% of all HIV in the UK is in migrants. In 3 years, migration alone doubled the rate of HIV in the UK. From a situation where is was steadily dropping pre Covid we are now accelerating up in numbers.
TB will be similar.
Show me where this is costed into the cost/benefit charts for migration?
October 5, 2026
+1 they are clearly acting directly against the interests of and the requests of the voters.
October 5, 2026
The British state is no longer working in the interests of the British people. We are being forced to pay for policies that demonstrably endanger the public.
October 5, 2026
Good morning.
The reason why I voted LEAVE is the same reason why I believe we should not re-join the ‘Stupid Club’. Namely, our system of law (English Common Law) is totally different to that of the EU which is based on the Napoleonic Code. Hence why the EU is stuffed full of regulation.
October 5, 2026
They have so many rules they don’t bother to keep them. Like the Maastricht Treaty rule that member countries aren’t allowed to have a debt to GDP ratio greater than 60%. They even have an Excessive Deficit Procedure to enforce it.
In France they have 120%.
In the UK there is the notion that rules are in place only when they are necessary and not to be ignored. Perhaps before there is any talk about the UK joining the EU again, they get their finances in order and the UK does as well. Can those who advocate the UK joining the EU again suggest what budget cuts they are prepared to approve so the UK compliesl?
October 5, 2026
Indeed but also the structure is profoundly anti-democratic. The MEPs are just a powerless fake veneer of democracy. All the power is with the unelected.
October 5, 2026
Spot on Mark. +1
October 5, 2026
John as your dairy note suggests today, we dont have in the UK Parmiament people that wish to manage for a better future for the UK. My interpretation is we have a load of freeloaders that could barely survive on a local council. To conditioned to taking orders and implementing directions given to them by others.
We dont have a UK Parmiament, we have a coffee shop chattering cabal of non-achievers
October 5, 2026
This is true.
And so it’s not politics. It’s psychological.
And psychological damage mainly starts off in childhood (early childhood).
You can talk til the cows come how about (moderate but effective) conservative politics is great but socialists / WOKE / opportunists in politics couldn’t care less. They’re too psychologically damaged to care or to listen.
So what to do?
October 5, 2026
Then SELECT and RETURN your preferred candidates.
October 5, 2026
The main reason for pro EU is psychological not political.
Some just see sovereignty (and to a degree, patriotism) as something right-wing and ‘patriarchal’
This could be down to lots of psychological issues – overbearing father, overbearing authority figures in their lives, dislike of people at school and neighbours and fellow countryman in general. Etc
Until we fix the psychology, this problem will persist!
It’s first and foremost about psychology – not politics.
It’s a shame we don’t promote more the psychology of Carl Jung at school and university and in general. He’s a genius. His psychology is key to a healthy conservative culture and civilisation, overlapping with Christianity and European arts, philosophy, culture over the ages.
October 5, 2026
Hardly someone I would follow – Jung placed great importance on dreams, myths, religion, art, and alchemy.
His so called psychological breakthroughs have caused many destroyed lives – ask anyone abused in a mental hospital.
On that subject just be aware of the latest advertising in the USA from the big pharma industry pushing their own reinvented recycled psychedelic drugs as ‘natural’ and ‘from plants’. They are neither new, effective for mental problems, nor without repercussions for anyone diagnosed them by psychiatrists.
October 6, 2026
So your views are unlearned and left-wing / WOKE in my view regarding Carl Jung (although there are also extreme right-wing people who also oppose Jung on shadow work – too scary for them to explore the inner emotional landscape where they’ve picked up so many wounds during life – as all people do).
So many of our great country’s problems would be solved if more people studied and practised Jung on the masculine (and feminine) archetypes and on shadow work.
October 6, 2026
Far from it – clearly your evaluations are worth as much as Jung’s – not a lot.
Jung is hardly right wing. Psychiatry and psychology by their very nature are non-survival activities. Or as some famous man once said – ‘if they ever cured anyone they would go out of business’.
There are far better ways to achieve relief from past trauma than by using psychiatry.
October 5, 2026
A Telegraph headline ‘Tories pledge to cut £50k from cost of new homes ‘
Reading the item and trying to disapher the reality from the ‘fluff’, I can only suggest these so-called Conservatives still dont get it.
Let me start by saying I dislike everything the EU beuocracy creates. But here in the UK the real enemy is the UK Parliament. The standards in the telegraph item are not wrong or expensive.
From actual real experience it is the UK versions, its the refusal to manage by the UK Parliament, the perpenisity to deliberately cause mission creap, ‘jobs for boys’ that is the costly problem.
In an earlier life I was sat in a meeting with the EU Bureaucrats discussing the implementation of of better building standards in the EU. The EU, the EU mind you, found it unbelievable how costly the UK Parliament was forcibly making things.
An involved subject, so a simply illustration. The instalation of windows or glazing, the only products available by law have to be a certain standard as such that’s all there is available, and the manufacturers have to provide the tests to prove it. In the UK the supplier, the installer, by law has to prove by further costly tests that what the manufacturers tests are true, something thay couldn’t affect either way, adding upto 20% to the simplest of jobs. Nothing was gained, nothing could be improved just costs added.
Track that through to nearly every avenue of daily life and you see it is Parliament, not having the experience, the eptiude or the ability to just ‘manage’, think things through, that is holding back the UK. If a single Numpy believes just handing the job over to outsiders, the EU, they should ask thenselves what’s the point of a UK Parliament, when an office assistant would do the job better
October 5, 2026
It has been 6 years since we left the EU. Covid wiped out 12 – 18 months of that.
It is too early to measure if leaving has been a failure or a success other than passport control.
There should be no more decisions about rejoining until 2035 at least. Working together with our neighbours is a good idea as long as the terms are reciprocal and not punitive.
October 5, 2026
For all the reasons you state it would be insanity for the UK to rejoin the EU.
The other problem is that the UK are seen as a wealthy country and did not benefit when we were members and would not benefit if we rejoined, from the money we now badly need to improve our roads, drains/sewers,flood areas and defences, water infrastructure and reservoirs, prisons,HS2 and railways etc. that other poorer countries have done.
The poorer countries as they were back 40 years ago and during the time the UK was a member state have now become wealthy countries off the back of the EU;
If you go to the Irish Republic,Portugal,Greece or the Canary Islands today their roads are now in excellent condition.If you go to Fuerteventura today their standard and condition of roads are far better than those in the UK and they are currently building motorway standard roads linking the airport to the north and south of the islands that put our roads to shame.
If we ever rejoin the EU,the UK must secure and be guaranteed investment from the EU to improve all these facilities that have fallen well short of the standard we expect and that the EU now has having used our money to benefit themselves when we were EU members.
October 5, 2026
And despite all the words of opposition to rejoining. We will, it’s guaranteed. Westminster has never accepted Brexit, has never fully implemented Brexit, but has spent lots of time secretly begging Ms Von der Leyen to let us back in.
I’m in my twilight years. Hopefully I’ll be dead before we crawl back into that Soviet style edifice.
Add brexit reversal to the destruction of England by un-controlled immigration. By Far-Left wokery. By thought control and ever reducing freedoms while being taxed to death.
If I were in my thirties/forties I would do something I never envisaged I could do. I would leave the country that has been the home of my family since the turn of the eighteenth century (researched) and probably much longer. This place is doomed.
October 5, 2026
The Rejoin perception of reality is completely different and shuns hard evidence. It’s gaining traction – the Independent’s campaign to rejoin is now even stronger than that of the Guardian. Rejoining won’t be via referendum but by all political parties of the Left including it in their general election manifestos. Low turnout to bring a left of centre coalition and an apparent democratic legitimacy justifying Rejoin.
October 5, 2026
Given we had to pay to leave, will the EU be paying us to join to compensate for the liability incurred during our period of non-membership which we will now be taking on?
October 5, 2026
There is just one main reason to stay out of the EU. Their lack of democracy.
Only the EU Commission can enact EU laws. The EU Commission comprises unelected and unaccountable persons from each member country. Our lawmakers are selected by us, the British electorate.
The general public within the EU can never vote for or against them, and EU citizens cannot remove them from power.
A State that disables the power of the electorate can never be democratic, and that is sound reason why we MUST stay out.
OUR Nation, over the past centuries, has fought many wars to maintain our independence, and it is pure treachery to abandon all ot those lives sacrificed to protect a basic right of all Brits.
A government that now wishes to place us again under the control of foreigners have clearly deemed itself too incompetent to run the country by themselves and has called in the EU for help.
Whereas the right thing to do is to stand down and make way for those who can and will. But will this wretched Labour lot ever do the right thing?
October 5, 2026
A great summary of the issues Burnham wants to impose on us.
If we go back in now there would be no easy escape in the future – we have to make sure re-entry never happens.
Put aside the treachery of what the PM is attempting, but just like so many other labour policies and idea, there is no sustainable logic to any of it. The best we can say for the labour party, based on the demons they are still trying to fight from ages past, is that they have a death wish for the UK.
So wrapped up in their ideology, from nationalisation to defending HAMAS, they still hate the Christian values that made the UK great, and so will do anything to wipe it from memory. They are wrong on every count, yet it takes a particularly sick group think to be so perversely destructive in so many ways.
October 5, 2026
The EU is a dead weight.
We are better off out of it with freedom to make our own choices.
October 5, 2026
Dear Sir John,
Very interesting list of arguments for not re-joining the Eu but most of them are not very valid or applicable.
1) We do not know what an outcome a vote would be at this stage
2) Higher growth before joining in 1972, this was the case for all of wester Europe in 50s and 60s after the second world war
3)WE do not know if we would be paying a higher tax for re-joining.
4) Yes there is more mutual debt after Covid support
5)Many nations still have their own currency so we do not have to drop the pound
6) The trade agreements you mention are not very important compared to trade with the EU and it ill open up for many more SMEs to trade with Europe again
7) EU gives more influence not less in foreign policy
8)The Draghi report talks about improvements that need to be done in Europe and the UK
9)It will open for many more jobs opportunities in Europe
10) Net zero will still happen with or without the EU
So, no Sir John your arguments just do not stack up
October 5, 2026
Absolutely correct, Lord John. Numbers 1, 9 and 10 are the worst of a dreadful list of policies that would destroy the country. Number 9 would ensure an even bigger flood of illegal migrants and number 10 would further ramp up Net Zero, a “solution” to a problem that would not exist if it was not sabotaging our energy and hence causing de-industrialisation and national insecurity. It’s time we had a referendum on Net Zero.
October 5, 2026
We’re out, yet this last week we’re told the EU is demanding we open our universities to EU students at low fees that UK citizens would have to subsidise and fund with loans?
We’re out, yet today the newspapers are saying we are going to apply the same restrictions to Chinese car imports, hurting ourselves by removing lower-cost vehicles.
There is talk of rejoining the customs union, why? this would block us from other world deals?
Burnham stood, promising Makerfield residents no diddling about with the EU, then is proposing all sorts… Can they recall him in Makerfield?
October 5, 2026
11. Surrender our fish forever and quite probably surrender also our North Sea oil and gas as our rejoining fee. Sir Con O’Neill, the senior British diplomat and civil servant who led the UK’s official negotiating team for entering the EEC, writing about the initial surrender of our fish to the EU, said he told the PM, Edward Heath, “swallow it whole and swallow it now”.
October 5, 2026
418 illegals arrived yesterday …..they just keep coming
October 5, 2026
The government’s track record since the General election 2024 suggests it had no idea and No plan to solve Britain’s economic (and many other related) problems other than to crudely do the exact complete opposite of what the Conservatives have pursued.
This allows them to satisfy both their Union baron paymasters and their far left voters at the time as spiting all Right wing parties and getting them headlines to appear relevant and less ignorant and lightweight than they are on business matters.
They have to keep talking up old outdated ideas dressed up as new initiative ones to appear fresh and inspiring. They get away with this because the MSM are unable to hold them to account, especially the BBC.
October 5, 2026
:Perhaps John in Kent or anyone else propagandising the EU may care to state the SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT COMPELLING REASON to re-join the bloc.
October 5, 2026
Burnham is essentially following Starmer’s mantra of closer ties with the EU and frankly it’s nonsense. The EU is a draconian rule maker fixated on Net Zero and with it swingeing carbon taxes, furthermore there’s precious little growth in the EU. Brexit was a half baked settlement failing to fulfil all the promises and opportunities available to a sovereign nation. The Northern Ireland agreement further complicates the situation for us while ensuring EU retains a pernicious foot in our back door. Much of the blame for today’s situation rests with Teresa May and Boris Johnson. JR’s points are spot on. Why would be want to give up the pound, pay shed loads of money to Brussels, further ruin our fisheries only to become a rule taker and even poorer? It might suit our lazy Civil Service and many left leaning politicians but when all the facts are known I’m certain the majority of people will not want to rejoin or get closer.
October 5, 2026
Some of us who fought for years to get out wonder why the politicians of all sorts did nothing to enforce the new life we could have had under Brexit, especially Boris Johnson. We could have been far ahead of everyone in EU now which would have led to others taking control of their countries away from the EU. We lead but not this time unfortunately.
October 6, 2026
Spot On
October 12, 2026
No, you could never have had life you imagined from Brexit. Shiny new trade deals, the EU rolling over and letting us stay in their market, the Commonwealth resurgent, Britain setting the rules – pie in the sky. Brexit has failed because every promise made for it was pure fiction