I think the PM was right to say he needs to stay in the UK to work with the Chancellor on a good budget rather than flying to Egypt. It would be better if these conferences to urge us all to travel less and to burn less fuel were more often conducted on line to set an example on the issue of jet travel and to make their own contribution to reducing CO2 .
COP 27 faces the same big problem COP 26 faced. China generating 30% of the world’s CO 2 intends to carry on increasing its output for most of this decade. President Xi will not be in Egypt for others to lobby him  to do what western countries are doing to cut their output. Current policy of us closing down energy intensive activities and fossil fuel mines and wells in order to import goods from China does nothing to cut world CO 2. In many cases it boosts it as we spend more on transport and on less environmentally friendly production in China. India, Russia and Brazil also are large producers of CO 2.
COP 27 does face a new problem from COP 26. As a result of the war in Ukraine and the need for the EU to cut its use of Russian gas, countries like Germany and Poland will be using more coal. China, facing shortages of power from hydro and renewables has also turned to more coal dependence. This is against the main conclusion of COP 26 that countries should make rapid progress to eliminate coal, treating gas as a transition fuel whilst renewable electricity was expanded and technologies developed to store it for times when the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine.
It will be interesting to see what solutions they propose to tackle this difficulty.
October 29, 2022
Good morning.
Once sincerely hopes that this is not the case of the blind leading the blind. We really need to put an end to this merry-go-round we have been witnessing these last six years.
As an aside I looked at the population (Statista website) of both the UK and Egypt since 1920. Humanâs being the alleged cause of all this CO2 I thought this to be quite relevant.
The population of the UK in 1920 was getting on for over 43 million. In Egypt it was just 13 million. In 2020 the population of the UK is now estimated (although I think it to be much higher) to be over 67 million of which, an increasing amount of that is due to immigration. Egyptâs population today stands at around 102 million.
I would therefore argue that, due to increasing populations and their consumer demands, I am of the opinion that these country should do more to cut their CO2 emissions than us.
Just a thought.
October 29, 2022
+many
Shhhhsh! Donât mention population!
They might try to reduce it in some draconian way!
October 29, 2022
Sunak said at hustings he would allow fracking, first act was to stop it!! Despite chaotic scenes voting it in. Is this the integrity which he intends to serve?
We read Truss was ambushed by Treasury and cabinet office to U-Turn over her budget. Apparently she knew âtheyâ were coming for her. Whatever that means. Is this correct JR? Did âtheyâ insist on Hunt?
Harrison was Osborneâs economic chief of staff and now back with Hunt. He is also a remainer and anti Brexit. Should we start to hear project fear mark 2?
October 29, 2022
JR, if your govt is confident of net stupid put it to a nationwide referendum same for fracking please. I suspect people will choose lights and heating against stupidity cannot add up socialist Tories!
I have come to the conclusion we need more referenda. We can no longer trust MPs. If govt wants to borrow into the red referendum. It is our taxes.
We were meant to have a balanced structural deficit by 2015 and pay down the debt. Your chancellors and govt lied repeatedly then abandoned- Osborne, Hammond etc. Now Hunt is asking them for advice!
October 29, 2022
Just another thought ⊠the CO2 emission per person is at 2.37 t/pp for an Egyptian and 5.55 t/pp for a Brit. (ourworldindata.org).
China is at 7.6 t/pp, India at 1.9 t/pp, Indonesia at 2.1 t/pp, the USA at 15 t/pp.
What about not only checking population figures but also emission per person in the different countries.
October 30, 2022
The IPCC is concerned to reduce global CO2 levels.
CO2 Per person is interesting heffy but of little value.
October 30, 2022
Peter 2
Wrong again. It’s acknowledged by the IPCC that emissions per capita is very important measurement.
October 30, 2022
I didn’t say they weren’t important.
I said they were of little real value if the KPI is to reduce overall CO2 global levels.
Got it now billy?
October 30, 2022
Your data claims that Egypt emits only 42% the CO2 compared to the UK.
However, that same website claims Egypt emits 82% the total greenhouse gases (2019) compared to the UK. China is 2,080%, India is 783%, USA is 1344% of UK levels. So things aren’t that rosy for Egypt.
If a key driver for these numbers is population then Mark B’s info is very pertinent.
The worst case would be to have 3rd world population growth driving developed world consumption which is what we are getting with the illegal immigration.
October 29, 2022
There’s that statistic bandied about (I paraphrase), that the average westerner uses the same amount of energy per year as a whole boatload of third world residents.
Clearly there’s sound environmental reason to keep the boats away from our shores…or for us all to emigrate to the third world…or to simply impoverish ourselves here. Ah, silly me, we’re doing that already!
October 29, 2022
It is true while they are in the boat. Once detected they are ferried using engines to our coast, they are driven to hotels – not the best CO2 with massive aircon units run by electricity pouring out heat. They then consume and use just the same as westerners.
October 29, 2022
Indeed, where ever you look the population rises in developing countries have been extraordinary. They were banging on about the effects of climate change on Madagascar, but of course failed to mention their population has risen from 4 million in 1950 to 29 million now, and stripped 90% of the forest cover from the land. Afghanistan 7 million to 40 million over the same time period , increasing their population by 10 million in last 10 years, but their drought problem was because of climate change. And Pakistan 41 to 236 million, but their Monsoon problems, you’ve guess it, down to climate change. The reason the likes of the BBC never ever mention their burgeoning populations and the impact that is having on their lands is because they haven’t figured out a way to blame their population explosion on us, so all their problems are down to climate change, which means they are trying to suggest we have a moral duty to take ‘climate change refugees’.
October 29, 2022
Iain Moore
Well said pal with very good data to back it up.
Will you now please go and stand in the corner as there are a lot of cult believers do no want to hear or read such reality.
October 29, 2022
You may remember that our No 1 National Treasure, David Attenborough, gave a lecture in 2018 on the problem that the population explosion has created for other species and, of course climate change.
He could not have been clearer when he said :
âAll of our environmental problems become easier to solve with fewer people, and harder â and ultimately impossible â to solve with ever more people.â
He was immediately shouted down from all sides and, of course, we never hear another word from him about it.
That is just one of the dilemmas around the climate. You have mentioned the others, none of which will be addressed at COP 27, of No 28, 29, 30 or any other, for that matter.
In the meantime, UK governments of all pursuasions will gradually impoverish us and make our businesses less competitive by imposing draconian restrictions on us that are not observed by others, and especially by the big polluters.
Behind his inscrutable face, China’s Xi will be laughing at the West for making his gradual move towards world economic and military domination easier for him !
October 29, 2022
Well, he was not completely silenced: David Attenborough also had a very interesting addition to his take on âpopulation explosionâ in December 2021 âThe number of people aged 60 and over is also predicted to double by 2050 from 962 million to 2.1 billion globallyâ. yanvanathemessage.com 03/12/2021 âSir David Attenborough on human overpopulationâ.
Volunteers for suicide, please stand in line.
October 30, 2022
If the world population is exploding, then the number of people over 60 will also explode (in time), unless they deliberately shorten lifespans.
October 29, 2022
Very good, Iain. Never, ever do we find a programme or a newspaper article on the effect of massive population growth on the environment of much of the world’s people. Even if we take climate change to be caused by a small growth in CO2 ( which I don’t), it couldn’t possibly compete with population growth in its effect on millions of people in their everyday lives. Populations are not rising, they are exploding exponentially.
October 29, 2022
A (quick) search on Amazon with âpopulation crisisâ shows:
The Population Crisis, Paul R. Ehrlich, 1968
The Limits to Growth, an update, D.H. Meadows, 1972 orig.
Exploding the Population Myth, A.A. Rahman, 1998
Sparing Nature: The Conflict between Human Population Growth âŠ, J.K. McKee, 2005
Life on the Brink, Ph. Cafaro, 2012
Population: 10 Billion, D. Dorling, 2013
Man Swarm: How Overpopulation is Killing the Wild World, D. Foreman, 2015
Indiaâs Deadly Population Bomb, S. Chandrasekhar, 2015
Time Bomb: How the Aging Population ⊠M. Adler, 2019
By refining the search words scores of other books on related subjects (population and âŠ) can be found.
October 31, 2022
Very impressive titles. But few of them address the environmental issue itself as a function of third-world population increase. (Probably because the issue is such a hot potato for liberal academics đ
Both Ehrlich and Meadows (now very out of date) were not discretely concerned with the environment, but with anthropocentric needs – such as food resources.
Ehrlich’s book began with a prophecy (“In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death”) that was so ludicrously inaccurate he was forced to suppress it in later editions. Meadows forecast a “sudden and uncontrollable decline in population and industrial capacity”. Neither could foresee the impressive advances since made in agri-tech: though they might arguably have at least scanned some of the thousands of agri-patents that were being rolled out globally at the time.
October 31, 2022
McKeeâs and Foremanâs books do address the environmental issue as function of population increase. Given that such population increase mainly occurs in developing countries I would think these books to be relevant.
October 29, 2022
I do believe the Guardian ran a piece on population in terms of foregoing becoming a parent in order to save the planet. What stood out to many people was the accompanying pictures of white babies only.
November 1, 2022
Is that the Guardianâs 23/07/2020 âThe Guardian view on population growth: A small planet needs big solutionsâ. The picture is of Asian people.
Or is it the Guardianâs 18/01/2022 âThe Guardian view on Chinaâs baby bust: let people chooseâ. Again picture of Asian people.
Or 20/06/2018 âWould you give up having children to save the planet?â. There is no photograph, just a drawing of a woman who looks brown to me.
But without proper references, it is always possible to arouse already heated minds just by quoting âGuardianâ.
October 29, 2022
Ah, good points Mark B, but people in the third world on average use far less energy than we do here in the West.
So to reduce CO2 outputs we should either (a) not let them come here, (b) all emigrate over there, or (c) impoverish ourselves to third world standards. We’re not doing (a) or (b)…
Ps. Apologies if a similar comment pops up – having trouble with the technology today.
October 29, 2022
Yes, they never mention the Carbon cost of moving someone from the developing world to the West , no howls of anguish about climate change then. When Merkel invited in 800k Syrians, they moved people who had a 2 ton Carbon footprint to Germany who has a 10 ton foot print , Net 8 tons of CO2 for 800k people, just a mere 6.4 million tons.
October 29, 2022
On item (c) = Nail. Head. Hit !!!
đ
October 29, 2022
So much for the eco nut idea that if we reduce our co2 emissions the other countries will follow us. They are not going to follow us, theyâre too busy laughing at us.
October 29, 2022
‘The blind leading the blind’
Well I heard reported that they are enlisting the help of George (I’ll balance the books by 2015) Osborne
who ran our services down with cuts which are twice as expensive to put right now yet still managed to increase the national debt by billions. Why ask him, when Sir John is sitting on their back benches, someone who actually has some idea of what to do? Expect another load of expensive in the long run cuts. No doubt they will renege on the pensions triple lock again, and cause a NHS crisis by way of strikes (all part of the plan in my opinion) even though the Chancellor was sitting next to the then PM when she guaranteed they would not. Can you trust a word this shower utter, with all the u-turns and u-turns on u-turns? Clueless they are, just wanting power with no idea what to do.
October 29, 2022
The population of the MENA (Middle East North Africa) region is forecast to double by 2050 to c650m,far larger than the EU – one of the reasons Russia is cutting it’s ties to Europe and focussing -very successfully- on this region,particularly with regard to agrifoods.
I read a very interesting report this week from Palgrave Advances in Bioeconomy:”Russia’s Role in the Contemporary Agrifood Trade System” by Stephen Wegren and Frode Nilsson,November 2021.
Also interesting in that report is Chapter Five:”Russia’s role in International Fish and Seafood”.Russia is massively increasing it’s fishing fleet ( building it inhouse) and will continue to reduce permits offered to other nations to operate in it’s vast and rich fishing grounds,particularly in the North West and the Far East.It is also hugely increasing it’s domestic fish processing capability so that catches will be predominantly landed at Russian ports rather than foreign ports by 2025.
October 29, 2022
You only need to reduce CO2 emissions if you believe the hype of the UN IPPC COP climate crusaders, if you believe our government policy of net-zero and you believe the rise in ocean seas will kill us all
I my life time the weather hasn’t changed …the only thing thats changed is that the owners of wind-turbines are making a shit load of money
October 30, 2022
Much truth in that, just a way of hosing tax payers money into the pockets of friends of the establishment.
October 29, 2022
It would indeed be far better if these conferences to urge us all to travel less and to burn less fuel were more often conducted on line to set an example on the issue of jet travel and to make their own contribution to reducing CO2 .
Better still just do not go at all they are pointless indeed they are very net harmful as:-
1. There is no climate emergency caused by CO2 which is vital plant, crop, tree and seaweed food.
1. Even if CO2 were a serious climate problem mo real world co-operation with happen anyway – China, India, South America, Russia, Africa… so what the UK does is irrelevant.
3. The solutions being pushed wind, solar, EVs, walking, cycling, public transport…do not really save any significant CO2 anyway when fully accounted for. They usually just export the jobs and the CO2 too. EVs for example actually increase C02 very significantly compared to keeping your old car. This even if you can charge them on spare low carbon electricity (which we do not have anyway). At COP26 the appalling hypocrites charged them with diesel generators shipped up to Glasgow on diesel trucks!
4. The money wasted on net zero could be spent on things that are sensible in saving lives and protecting the environment.
5. The best solution is almost certainly to use the fossil fuels we have for the next hundred years of so and develop better nuclear, nuclear fusion and synthetic fuels to replace them long term.
October 29, 2022
LL
Agree with this! And most green ideas are actually harmful to the environment. How is covering vast swathes of the countryside with solar farms environmentally friendly? How is destroying farm animals, whose poop keeps the soil rich and fertile, environmentally friendly? To list but two items! But thatâs what the greenies are doing! As weâve said before, this political exercise is nothing to do with saving the climate or environment! Itâs a scam!
October 29, 2022
LL, it is better for UK to import fracked gas from Qatar and US than to produce it in UK, Sunakâs decision has made that clear. He seems an idiot to me to think shipping fracked gas across the world is better for the planet than produce it yourself to obtain energy security.
October 29, 2022
Indeed wind farms noisy and are bird, bat and insect chomping machines, mining battery materials is very bad, dams and river barrages not too clever either.
October 29, 2022
+many
Meanwhile, yesterday I received an amusing little truc, a solar panel with light bulb, all the way from China! And it works!
Under a tenner, post included. ( Luckily I did not come unstuck with âBrexitâ Customs extra charges!).
So..plus ça change etc.
October 29, 2022
so no storage capability? So you have the solar panel outside – a long cable to the darker places in your shed or garage – and wow you have a lit light bulb. The solution to the world power crisis. ÂŁ10 well spent?
October 29, 2022
10 GBP postage & packaging plus vat paid via marketplace or seller. The postage & materials and energy to move it from China surely would exceed that. Get a quote for sending it back and see what it costs via Royal Mail as a small business ? Levelling up? More like unfair competition.
Meanwhile the sell out continues a) exporting industry to the east from the west b) import replacements to cause disharmony and mitigate any opposition c) legislation control what you can buy and from whom, and will enforce this with digital coins d) by legislation control your speech.
The establishment agenda is there own.
October 29, 2022
Good in summer but not so good in winter when you mainly need the light.
October 29, 2022
+1
All those mining villages destroyed. Lives wrecked.
Was Mrs T combatting commies/unions or doing the EUâs bidding?
Anyway, it all = no coal.
Which is downright wicked!
October 29, 2022
Yes, mining villages totally destroyed and no help given to replace that industry. None at all. The businesses that relied on that industry and the miners were also left to rot. Now, every square inch (including top quality arable land) is being used for housing to house our massively increasing population. Such a pity we won’t be able to feed everyone and will rely more and more on imports therefore worsening our balance of payments, but who cares? The government obviously don’t as they pack in more and more immigrants.
October 29, 2022
Good question reference the mines and one I’ve often asked.
I’ve also asked many Labour supporters why they were never opened again under Blair and Brown.
I suppose we have to believe there hasn’t been a long term plan to destroy everything here, from industry through to society at large in order to bring about a chance to ‘build back better’
I find it hard to believe that there hasn’t been a long term plan and now it’s coming to its closing stages more people are noticing.
October 29, 2022
These meetings are just talking shops where the ‘great and the good’ entertain themselves at vast cost in money and emissions and just love to virtue signal to each other. 26 of them we’ve had now, with no tangible result except for the UK who always gold plate anything they are told to do by foreigners and no doubt this one will be no different, with the rest of the world making promises with no intention of ever keeping them. I heard it reported for instance that Germany is taking down windmills in order to start an open cast mine of the dirtiest fuel known to man. Good start.
October 29, 2022
LL, you must admit it is very funny hearing the repeated outrage of the reptiles at the King and the PM not going, while there is never a mention of Bad Boris who made it such a success from their point of view last time! They can’t bear to hold him up as an example!
October 30, 2022
+1
October 29, 2022
Fully Agree
October 30, 2022
Whilst I agree COP-xx is a waste of time, energy and money I am Interested to hear your detailed proposals for coal fired cars.
Getting your rusty heap up to pressure should take less time than a full charge up but you would have to add on the time and effort to go mine the coal.
You will be going down the mines won’t you, taking one for the team, making an active, positive contribution to our energy supply?
Or will you demand everyone else takes the hit while you snipe comfortably in your armchair?
October 29, 2022
The childish and deluded Alok Sharma today from the Guardian.
The UKâs windfall tax on oil and gas profits must be changed to raise billions more and to stop companies using loopholes to invest in further fossil fuel extraction, the outgoing president of global climate talks has said. âThese are excessive profits, and they have to be treated in the appropriate way when it comes to taxation,â said Alok Sharma, the president of the Cop26 UN climate summit. âWe ought to be going further and seeing what more can be done in terms of raising additional finance [from the profits]. So far, at least, the level of money raised is obviously not significant.â
Far more people in the UK die from the cold Alok. Sunak should scrap net zero especially as Sunak has promised to resign if he does.
The deluded and rather unpleasant Dame Angela Eagle on Any Question is again promising to scrap the Non Dom tax status and use the money raised to pay for various daft socialism. Will someone explain to the dope that doing so will raise far less tax not more. We have the Non Dom regime so wealthy people from overseas are not deterred from living in the UK or leaving the UK. Ireland sensibly have this too and many other countries have other systems to achieve this. Why should a wealthy person have to pay ÂŁX millions in tax to live in the UK then 40% of assets on death? When so many preferable choices are available many have working health systems, control their borders and have far lower crime rates too.
October 29, 2022
“Why should a wealthy person have to pay ÂŁX millions in tax to live in the UK then 40% of assets on death?”
Indeed.
So why should people like Mrs Sunak who +live here but don’t+ enjoy a competitive advantage over indigenous folk in their ability to purchase property or compete with us in businesses?
Rather like our incoming boat-borne friends, non-doms should if anything go to the back of the queue for benefits (including levels of tax paid) here. Or at least make it a level playing field with us who always had to pay out of 40%+NI+CGT income and gains. .
October 29, 2022
The super rich do not come here for the weather of to save tax. I don’t think the Republic of Ireland has anything approaching London for theatres, culture, opera, ballet, meeting similar people and the opportunity to do business in the greatest business city in the world. On the other hand a lot of the boat people come to either enter criminal gangs or enjoy free accommodation, 3 meals a day, no worries about eating or heating, getting ÂŁ40 a week spending money (more than most pensioners and the poor have left each week). In short, a soft touch. We satisfy both ends of the spectrum, at the expense of those in the middle.
October 29, 2022
– non-doms should lose citizenship and or be taxed on worldwide income with deductions via a double tax agreements. (See US policy)
– private jet travel should be banned and passenger logs sent to HMRC weekly regarding all non-doms citizens or dual nationals declared resident in a secrecy jurisdiction or tax haven.
– how about a flatter tax with a max tax deduction in a year?
– all imports of goods and services should be taxed at fair value (fully inclusive) on arrival in UK based upon regulations in force in the UK.
October 29, 2022
LL
You are some man. You always seem to get the Guardian stuff printed. When I try it assuming as it is out in the big wide world its not libellous whatever, it never see’s the light of day.
October 29, 2022
Lifelogic :
Let us hope that the President of COP26, Alok Sharma, MP, on his way to COP27 does not feel the urge to trigger the explosive demolition of another UK coal-fired asset as he did last year as seen in this official SSE video :
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1429456184902393858/pu/vid/720×720/JwPnpycxEiyBmqVJ.mp4?tag=12
BEIS are still saying (28/09/2022) that they intend to demolish all coal-fired plants by October 2024.
October 29, 2022
Indeed BEIS are insane. Burning wood at Drax is idiotic but at least it means it has not been blown up as yet.
October 29, 2022
I’ll be watching COP27 just to see Tory Alok Sharma MP (COP26 President for life) cry again
October 29, 2022
Google “Sunak pledges to ‘rewire’ global finance system for net zero” on youtube to see what a deluded dope this man was on this topic last November.
Of course if you deter investments in fossil fuels you get very high energy prices and very vulnerable & unreliable energy systems. Well done Sunak as that is what we now have. Let us hope winter is mild and does not kill too many pensioner this winter.
October 29, 2022
Lifelogic
A classic three posts on the trot.
October 29, 2022
Lol
YesâŠbut heâs bloody good isnât he?
October 29, 2022
Cuibono,
I only skim for Bingo words now.
I work on the assumption that it’s his usual rawmaish.
October 29, 2022
What’s your problem Peter? I happen to enjoy LL posts.
October 29, 2022
FUS,
It’s entirely possible that Lifelogic not only posts huge verbiage under one identity but even more under aliases.
Alternatively, I may be overestimating the calibre of posters on this site. Lifelogic’s equivalent of ‘PPE graduates’ maybe?
October 29, 2022
Peter
And very good arenât they!
If only your posts were half as interesting
October 29, 2022
Wait for it – any minute now we will be asked to save the NHS
October 29, 2022
…and he’s banned fracking but not the imported product. Economics of a village idiot. The Tory’s are toast asap.
October 29, 2022
Never mind, our Alok will be there worshipping the Green goddess, answering another question and bursting into tears when Xi isn’t. enthusiastic. Climate Charlie may zoom in to push his military style campaign for hypothermia.
October 29, 2022
+1.
I tend to think the Tories have been fooled in thinking (perhaps by the deluded BBC) there are votes in “net zero” from their polling. They are wrong, obviously if you ast people “do you want a better environment for your children, or do you want to save the world from a new hell fire?” they tend to say oh yes. If you say do you want expensive and intermittent energy, all your jobs off-shored, the economy destroyed and to have to spend ÂŁ100K-ÂŁ200K per home on insulation, heat pumps, smart meters, a new electrical grid, millions of wind farms and electric cars (non of which work very well, save significant CO2 or are very practical) they say get lost you daft idiot or something similar. Anyway the green loons will never vote Tory however net zero they pretend to be.
Similarly if you ask people if they would like to pay more tax for this or that good cause many say yes. But then if you ask them for a cheque for ÂŁ500 payable to HMRC they are rather less keen.
Still some good news Sunak has ditched his moronic ÂŁ10 fine for missed NHS appointments. This when you can hardly get an appointment. A far better plan would be ÂŁ25 to have an appointment (for all who can afford to pay). Had he introduced it it would probably have cost the NHS ÂŁ20 for each ÂŁ10 collected in admin!
October 29, 2022
ÂŁ25 would make no difference at all. We have too few GP’s due to not training enough (short sighted cost cutting), losing them and nurses (who have poor pay for the qualifications they must have) and then taxing them out of the surgery over pensions, and far too many people in the population due to ever expanding immigration. Why has this only occurred over the las 25 years, before which we could see a doctor next day? The NHS in general has been wrecked by the Tories hare brained ‘internal market’ infatuation.
October 29, 2022
Lifelogic
Agree with your first paragraph entirely.
You ask a question the way you want, to get the answer you want.
Lawyers have been doing it in court for years !
The media are now practicing the art, hence the reason why politicians and many others answer a different question, and you end up of course with a complete nonsense of an interview.
October 29, 2022
How many “deluded” make a demented LL?
October 29, 2022
How right you are regards polling.
Everything depends who you are asking, their ability to understand what they are being asked, the wording and phrasing (very important) and the scope allowed in the answer.
I always think a lot of these polls are used as a psychological tool….Labour has a massive lead in the polls, it’s all over, resistance is futile.
October 29, 2022
+1 on green LL. Do we get a rebate from the NHS when we are made to wait two hours on a hard seat for a booked appointment ???
October 30, 2022
Only two hours you were lucky? So people with broken hips wait 10 hours on the floor for an âemergencyâ ambulance!
October 29, 2022
Meanwhile whilst we freeze to death sitting on 309 years of our own fuel, a halo burns bright over Westminster.
One day the people will speak and it won’t be pleasant.
October 29, 2022
+100
Agree.
âThe Great Stinkâ around Wefminster could have had nothing on the shenanigans of the last few years!
Bring back the sewageâŠit was preferable!
October 29, 2022
Ian Wragg
Sooner than most think it will.
With all that is going on in this country it is all the makings of a Perfect Storm.
October 29, 2022
+1
October 29, 2022
Meanwhile small businesses and charities are closing down because they can’t afford to heat their workplace
October 29, 2022
And leisure centres.
October 29, 2022
As noted in The Sunday Times of S Africa 23/10/22:
the hydro-carbons minister of Equatorial Guinea, Gabriel Lima, said at a recent oil conference in Senegal “we have been hearing that by 2030, developed nations will no longer need our oil and gas. The question is, what are we going to do if we can no longer sell to Europe, America or Asia?”. There are huge projects in Africa being planned for excavating, transporting and utilising oil and gas locally and for export – deny the continent those developments and the poverty and serious unrest/increasing violence will simply increase.
Then no doubt the NetZero fanatics will start bleating about the need to increase Foreign Aid …..
October 29, 2022
Won’t they still be selling to India and China?
October 29, 2022
Under this government there’s no need to worry about funding foreign aid …they’ll just borrow the money
October 29, 2022
I still sense within this a tacit assumption that there is actually a need for any country to reduce CO2 emissions. Step away from the fantasy world of the climate modellers with their toys about as useful as Neil Ferguson’s COVID death modelling and look at the real data – real-world measured global surface temperatures – and it is obvious that there is no correlation between man-made CO2 emissions and those temperatures. None of those modeller’s toys have explained how we have experienced the Mediaeval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age and subsequent warming, all with similar levels of global CO2.
October 29, 2022
Will, +++++
October 29, 2022
Will. Exactly right. A scam! The whole net zero ideology is fantasy. It is man’s actions that is destroying the world not the climate. You just have to look at the amount of new housing estates springing up everywhere to understand we are displacing species of animals and birds that have inhabited the fields and woods for decades. There is so much road kill on our roads now too. Foxes, badgers and birds of prey etc. This is why populations are falling. Mammals and birds adapt to nature but they don’t deal with the bulldozer very well.
October 29, 2022
+ many Will. You either agree 2+2=5, else you go to Room 101. I think we have arrived at Orwells 1984.
October 29, 2022
China, India, Germany and others have made it perfectly clear to the world that coal is for them the primary fuel for maintain their industrial output and the time scales for ending its use are very fluid. They will carry on no matter what effect that has on the rest of the world.
Even when all these tens of thousands of turbines and solar units are in place there will still need to have fossil fuel backup. Not only for when the wind doesn’t blow but for also when it blows too hard. It is very doubtful these country will blow up their range of new power stations and rely on gas for standby back up. What a load of stuff and nonsense this really all is.
Not one of these other countries like us have an environmental plan for the safe disposal of all this so called technology which only lasts if your lucky for 15 – 20 years
We choose to want to lead the world in renewables as it what we do and ourcountry pays the price
October 29, 2022
I was amused to see our local Lidl’s and Tesco’s have started to sell smokless fuel (e.g. “coal”) in 10Kg bags, as well as logs for wood burners. It seems to me that one unintended consequence of failing to ensure suffient supplies of our own gas (and storage) will be a return by the public to actually burning more fossil fuel this Winter. My gas-fired central heating won’t work if the electricity goes off but I still have an open fireplace (currently with a pillow stuffed up it). So, after just a moments hesitation, I purchased three bags of coal (just in case) and now my wife is saying it might be nice to “have a real fire” at Christmas.
October 30, 2022
one criteria I had when I bought our house was for an open fireplace and like you it currently has a bag stuffed up the chimney. On Occasional Christmas’s it has been fired from gas and is reading to be used again if necessary so your tip on Tesco/Lidl is useful.
October 30, 2022
Yes and the price of smokeless coal has gone up 50 per cent since spring when I last bought some – bandwagon jumping. If you go to a certain national diy store they are charging ÂŁ10 for a 10 kilo bag. If you buy logs from a supermarket you want your head looked at unless it is just for Christmas day. One of their bags will maybe last one evening.
October 29, 2022
Tweet from Robin Brooks,Chief Economist at IIF,this morning:
“If you want an idea of the negative growth shock facing Europe,don’t look at spot natural gas prices.Those now just go up and down with the weather since storage is full.Look at the 3-year ahead price.Those are up massively from a year ago and have not fallen.”
October 29, 2022
China if the news reports are correct are edging much closer to Nuclear Fusion if and when they do crack it they will in power generation terms lead the world.
What price will the environment pay when all these landmarks to man’s stupidity have to be removed , who is going to pay and at what cost.
Instead of being railroaded into renewables we should have invested the money in Nuclear Fusion (NF)
History will show we became another victim of a project fear sold to us by the greens and STW sect. Will all our politicians who drove all this crusade stand up and be counted and admit they all urinating before they got their flies open and underwear off?
October 29, 2022
turboterrior : âWhat price will the environment pay when all these landmarks to manâs stupidity have to be removed , who is going to pay and at what cost.â
If the Chinese are first to nuclear fusion I doubt very much they will share this technology with us.
Just because our extreme left universities are happy to share our technology with the 120,000 Chinese âstudentsâ in the UK does not mean that the Chinese will allow us access to their research and technology.
Furthermore, if we do/also develop nuclear fusion I donât expect the Green cult to want to use it rather than expensive and intermittent wind and solar renewables supplied by China.
So I think that if the Green cult continues windmills will be our only source of power (I think solar will disappear).
October 30, 2022
Have you looked at how much this government has committed to nuclear development compared to say HS2?
ÂŁ1.7b from the taxpayer plus elevated customer bills to France’s EDF for Sizewell C. At least Boris’s crew pushed this through against the NIMBYs but it will take 12 years to build.
Only ÂŁ75m grants to support new nuclear capabilities (presumably that includes SMR).
Yet ÂŁ42b for the first phase of HS2, how much of that goes to German companies..
The priorities, planning and execution of our governing classes are a bad joke.
October 30, 2022
+1 they are fools.
October 29, 2022
Yes, a very poor example set ! it shows they do not really believe Climate Change either.
Its only manipulation and thankfully they are failing!
October 29, 2022
At least “do as I say not as I do” King Charles is not be going!
October 29, 2022
I said here a while ago⊠Chinese scientists believe there to be a period of global cooling due in the mid 2000âs (around 2060)!
Basically, what we are seeing is the west choosing to destroy itself, and China, India etc will replace us as first world nations! Klaus Swhaab et al may believe they have âmade the futureâ, but Iâm not convinced. Destroyed it more like, for the west anyway.
October 29, 2022
Sharon
Shhhhhhh. Klaus doesn’t want that to come out to all his disciples. It might (will) make them look even more silly than they already are.
October 29, 2022
MFD
I think youâre right. I said here a while ago⊠Chinese scientists believe there to be a period of global cooling due in the mid 2000âs (around 2060)!
Basically, what we are seeing is the west choosing to destroy itself, and China, India etc will replace us as first world nations! Klaus Swhaab et al may believe they have âmade the futureâ, but Iâm not convinced. Destroyed it more like, for the west anyway.
October 30, 2022
The Government (dictatorship) need the message that whatever they do to the atmosphere etc – all will be solved after they are all dead. So sort a group of scientists to spread the good message.
October 29, 2022
COP 27 will highlight the emerging new world order, the real one, not Bill Gates’s biosecurity horror show that Keir Starmer seems interested in implementing if he gets into power. In the real world out there, Russia, China and India plus other countries in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation will carry on doing what they like to develop their economies and preserve their national security, regardless of the Net Zero climate obsession gripping imbecilic Western politicians. We will lose, they will gain. I’d like to think the PM’s refusal to attend COP 27 is a good sign, but I look at the fact that climate alarmist Skidmore is still there influencing policy, and that tells me everything I need to know about what the government’s plans are.
October 29, 2022
How significant is it that Messrs Sharma and Skidmore aren’t in the Cabinet?
October 29, 2022
Sharma – not sure. He’s still ‘full-time President for COP 26’. It may be that the urgency of saving the planet as COP 26 approaches means he wouldn’t have time to attend cabinet meetings!
Skidmore hasn’t been a cabinet minister since Feb. 2020. He’s still ‘Chair, Net Zero Review’, of course.
October 29, 2022
Indeed,they are the ones “re-wiring the world”-outside the dollar,outside SWIFT,outside the neo-colonial rules-based international order,etc.
Vladimir Putin’s Valdai speech a couple of days ago is,as usual,well worth reading.
October 29, 2022
This government will pledge billions of taxpayers money on whatever COP27 decide
October 29, 2022
We now see the terrible consequences of war on the environment, and yet another reason as to why nuclear power exposes humanity to highly unpredictable but very grave dangers.
Therefore the towering success of the European Union in having removed virtually all risk of that among its members, and in turn its enormous environmental benefits also becomes ever clearer.
October 29, 2022
I read yesterday that German chemical industrialists are moving their production to – China! The energy costs are the driver for this surprising move.
October 29, 2022
What will Germany’s massed-ranks of imported chemical engineers do now?
October 29, 2022
You couldn’t make it up.
October 29, 2022
It’s not surprising-China and the Far East are big markets and getting bigger.Russia is also developing a large petrochemicals hub in it’s far eastern province for the same reason.
October 29, 2022
See also two announcements this week- the Chinese have received approval to buy the German chip manufacturer Elmos and to acquire a 24.9% stake in Hamburg’s container terminal.
The latter is interesting because a few years ago Port of Hamburg signed a MoU with Russia’s Rosatom (which is responsible for the development of the Northern Sea(Arctic) transport corridor which China is very interested in using).If transit traffic takes off along this corridor(at the expense of the Suez route),it will impact Rotterdam and possibly the UK’s east coast ports.
October 29, 2022
BMW moving their electric mini production to China due to high energy costs here. How’s that net zero, fracking ban, Climate change Act helping our economy/manufacturing base? Legacy politicos dont need to answer.
October 29, 2022
Towering success….hilariously wrong NHL
As of August 2022 there were 133 nuclear reactors in Europe.
The EU generates about one quarter of its electricity from nuclear power.
PS
Germany stupidly removed its nuclear power plants and is facing an energy crisis where it is now returning to coal (and dirty lignite coal as well).
October 29, 2022
Germany’s removing a wind farm so it can expand a lignite (dirty brown coal) mine …. which is basically an admission that wind-power won’t supply the energy it needs to keep the lights on, let alone maintain its manufacturing base.
October 29, 2022
And as Mike says, moving their production to China where it will be produced using fossil fuels. Hilarious.
October 29, 2022
Surely NLH is correct to say that conducting a war in the vicinity of nuclear power stations is a new hazard. (Not sure how the EU is relevant, but we know NLH will always be a Remainer.) When we had the Ukrainians insanely firing at a live nuclear power stations a few weeks ago, the situation was absolutely critical. Fortunately the Russians shut the power plant down, before the Kiyv regime could pin a false flag atrocity on Moscow, but for a while another Chernobyl was a definite possibility.
October 30, 2022
Peter 2
Wrong again
The Germans have decided to let two nuclear power stations keep operating
October 30, 2022
Hilarious EUbilly
Soon you will really believe your own propaganda.
October 30, 2022
Isar2 (EON) and Neckarwestheim2 (EnBW).
Really Peter2, do you ever check before writing?
But keep on the good work, you are irreplaceable as this blogâs sad clown.
October 31, 2022
Continuing your no post without personal attacks policy heffy I see.
Germany has a policy of removing all nuclear plants heffy and EU billy.
You know I’m right.
The fact there is just two left is of no relevance.
They will go soon unless they reverse their policy.
Do you two like the recent return to dirty coal by Germany
They even demolished a wind farm to make room to do lignite open cast mining.
Hilarious.
October 31, 2022
Is calling people “sad clowns” in keeping with your normal stated requirement for “decent debate”heffy?
All quiet from eubilly on the subject too.
Hilarious
Trolls the both of you.
October 31, 2022
âYou know Iâm rightâ: how ridiculous. The CDU-CSU Government under Merkel had announced the closure of nuclear power stations in 2011 to be completed by 2022. The federal elections of September 2021 saw Scholz and the tricolour coalition of SPD-FDP-Green gaining power. As in most countries a new government can change a decision taken by its predecessor. With the Ukraine invasion and the pressure on gas export from Russia it is not surprising that the policy regarding the closure of nuclear stations was changed.
So your âGermany has a policy of removing all nuclear plantsâ is at best misinformed.
As for âsad clownâ, you enjoy that, donât you, giving you an excuse not to address the recurring fact you mostly provide hardly thought-out comment based on half-understood information.
October 29, 2022
Well I guess there’s the towering success of having made themselves so dependent on Russian gas NLH, that they are now re-opening 3Gw of coal fired power stations to help mitigate the huge problems they’ve caused themselves (and us)
October 29, 2022
NLH:
The âTowering successâ in the EU was Brexit.
The EU is like a Tower of Babel made of Jenga blocks.
We pulled out of that nonsense.
October 29, 2022
NLH – Putin wouldn’t be anywhere near the problem that he is had nuclear power been kept in the EU.
The Fukushima reactor actually resisted both a tsunami and an earthquake rather well. If, in the incredible event that Putin were to target a nuclear reactor in, say, Germany the very last thing we’d be worried about is radioactive fallout from that rather than the war that would ensue.
That’s why we have *nuclear* bombs to protect the EU !!!!
October 29, 2022
NLH
Third woman PM for the UK. First Asian PM for the UK.
In general the EU’s a bit behind isn’t it ???
October 30, 2022
France didn’t get the memo.
October 29, 2022
Apologies – off topic but the Beeb is bleating today that half of our overseas aid budget is being spent on UK asylum seakers.
I fail to see the problem. Perfectly valid accounting and if there were fewer economic migrants there would be more money to send abroad.
October 29, 2022
Then all those wealthy BBC executives and ‘celebrities’ should stick their hands in their pockets and make up the shortfall. The general public on average wage, have no more to give. They have a license fee to pay to keep these people in their lavish life styles.
October 29, 2022
The more you spend on them the more will arrive. They will all call home to their mates “cover over now you get a warm hotel room, bike, pizza and ÂŁx per week to spend, free medical car, free lawyers…”! Plus they will never send you home!
October 29, 2022
Its more than any of us would get. Even if you “declared poverty” & asylum, we take it on trust thats there is no family wealth hidden overseas and or in others names.This from illegal entrants. Its a scam.
I can’t imagine us getting any “preferred” service out of NHS for dentistry. As it is rationed and reserved for pre-approved people only. In effect to the point of denial of NHS service
October 29, 2022
I gather they all have very new top smart phones.
October 29, 2022
+1 Our government policy is indeed a ‘Pull’ factor
October 29, 2022
It was rather funny to hear the BBC in full moral outrage because we are spending money on refugees here, only for them to have to admit it fully conforms to the definitions of Aid spending.
October 29, 2022
I was surprised as many of us have been asking for this. I wonder which HS made the change. The one who was also in charge of Foreign Aid at one time?
October 29, 2022
The worry is that thevaid budget will have to expand just to pay for this element before long.
October 29, 2022
The way to deal with China and others who are reluctant to reduce C02 might be to apply taffifs. They are benefiting from the use of cheap coal etc whilst everyone is reducing emissions at a cost.
Personally I don’t think the world will do enough to save it in time.
October 29, 2022
Read the other comments and see what a small minority agree with you.
October 29, 2022
Don’t worry Stephen you won’t be around in a billion years to worry about the end of the world.
October 29, 2022
We were encouraged to sell our soul to the Chinese, it’s a bit late to row back on it!
But try we must.
October 29, 2022
The PM will still toe the Net Zero line. He just sees no benefit in drawing attention to the huge cost by turning up at the conference.
Johnson would have gone because he likes the limelight. He would see it as another holiday and a chance to network and promote his own interests.
October 29, 2022
COP involves about 40,000 delegates. Many people seated in large rooms need monitors to see them close up. Why do so many need to travel to distant rooms merely to contact them on screen when they can do that from their own beds at home? Going to COP is like going nuts!
October 29, 2022
Bloke. But a nice holiday with nice accommodation. What’s not to like?
October 29, 2022
Fully expensed no doubt
October 29, 2022
Those 40,000 delegates are in such high positions of government & university that they can attend for a week without it effecting their job
In the private sector you attend a trade fair to make money, at COP27 delegates attend to spend other peoples money
October 29, 2022
CON27 would be a better title for this scam.
October 29, 2022
+1
October 29, 2022
Yes.
I read that in Westphalia they are tearing down windmills in order to mine more dirty brown coal.
Excessive mirth.
Open up ALL the mines.
Why starve at a laden table??
October 29, 2022
And bringing back into use three lignite coal fired power stations.
They will be running out of glue as the Eco nuts will be sticking themselves down on roads everywhere.
October 29, 2022
+100
Wow! Hopefully itâs all coming apart at the seams?
I really do wish I knew where they get their superglueâŠit never even works on a broken vase for me!
October 29, 2022
Ian. Leave them there.
October 29, 2022
I hope the manufacturers make it stronger!
October 29, 2022
I’m sure the “elite” will enjoy their 27th Carry On Preaching jamboree in Egypt.
What will it achieve? An awful lot of the hot air they claim they want to cut – and precious little else since China, India etc won’t wreck their economies.
I’m in my early 60s and the climate now is the same as it has been throughout my lifetime. In the UK we get an occasional hot summer and we get an occasional very cold winter, but most of the time it’s mild and fairly wet.
It’s a scam and increasing numbers of people recognise that it’s a scam. It’s a means by which the UN can force western nations to “level down” by trashing their own economies and transferring vast sums of money to the usual countries who have even worse governments than ours and which continually have their hands out for “free money.”
I’m glad Truss told our WEF-supporting King that he couldn’t go. And I very much doubt that Sunak is staying away because he’s busy here: it’s far more likely to be a recognition that it would infuriate a great many voters (particularly in the Red Wall).
October 29, 2022
Yes it is important to keep the King away from COP27, for the reason John Kerry and co are keen for him to go is because they can guarantee he will open him mouth, in doing so box the Government in on having a more nuanced energy policy, and creating a Constitutional crisis if the Government tells him to not interfere.
October 29, 2022
Why do we have this obsession with emitting Co2? It is a gas that is essential to life, hugely increases plant growth and does not affect climate (in fact lags behind temperature).
Who benefits? The ruling elite. More taxes, more subsidies for green energy that doesn’t work, more sales of EV’s that not only don’t work but are actively dangerous, more control over the population who get less resources while the elite get more.
And all for what? Allegedly a couple of degrees warmer in a world that for most of it’s history was much warmer than it is now.
What a society we live in- fools led by criminals.
October 29, 2022
Alan Holmes
+ many.
Last sentence just abouts sums it all up.
October 29, 2022
All part of the restrict the peasants who are getting out of control. East Germany here we come, comrade.
October 29, 2022
I see the terms Net Zero and Covid Zero and I see the term Year Zero and all the horrors of this most destructive and inhumane political ideology that views human beings as an inconvenience to be dealt with in whatever way the State decides. What is zero? It’s a place I don’t want to go
October 29, 2022
+many
Zero = nothing.
âNothing will come of nothingâ ( Lear, Shakespeare)
And indeed for their NZ they have given us NOTHING.
They have taken away ALL our coping methods and tools.
They even wanted to take the Sun!
October 29, 2022
DOM
Well said
October 29, 2022
The Government have overreached on (1) green energy, (2) QE, borrowing and taxes, (3) outsourcing manufacturing and (4) migration demographics.
We have seen an energy crises caused by woke green policies. Now a predicted gilts crisis caused by a Government addiction to borrowing and triggered by lower taxation. If China invades Taiwan and we impose sanctions we will see a supply crisis caused by outsourcing manufacturing.
All three (energy, interest and supply) crises have different causes but all ratchet up inflation and will cause a serious cost of living crisis. If livelihoods are threatened we will then see a demographic crisis.
October 29, 2022
A conference on finding out what is causing the 200 (14%) excess deaths a day (currently in the UK) and similar in other countries would make far more sense. Is seems the vaccines are the most likely cause so how long with this excess continue? Can anything much be done other than stopping them now certainly for the young?
Heart issues in up to 1 in 27 according to a recent Swiss study. Why is MSM not demanding action.
But politicians like non issues and long terms issue like Climate Alarmism. If it is never a problem they can then claim to have solved it with the ÂŁbillions they taxed off us and wasted or stole from us.
October 29, 2022
LL, ++++1,
Don’t be put off by your detractors who object to your accurate and important listings of real priorities which our government should consider and address.
October 29, 2022
We don’t object to LL’s numerous posts and we agree with most of what he says. We just want to know who he really is and why, despite our host requesting we limit posts to one on each topic and that they be short, LL’s very frequent and lengthy contributions are given priority over the rest of us !
October 29, 2022
Thanks
October 30, 2022
never mind the quality .. feel the width eh?
October 29, 2022
Because the MSM is bought and paid for by the same people who don’t want the deaths, injuries and long-term consequences of the jabs acknowledged.
In The Daily Sceptic’s daily news roundup yesterday (28 Oct) the first item was a lecture given by Dr Malone (who invented, or at the very least was instrumental in developing mRNA technology) entitled “mRNA vaccines: The CIA and National Defence.”
It’s fairly easy to understand and is very well worth watching if you want to understand what’s really been going on; why, and what the plans are for the future.
October 29, 2022
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-vaccine-marketing-campaign-urges-millions-to-boost-their-immunity-this-winter
The campaign is directed at pregnant women also.
October 29, 2022
Deputy Prime Minister and Health and Social Care Secretary, ThérÚse Coffey received her autumn booster this week and urges those eligible to take up the offer as soon as possible, saying:
‘Our COVID autumn booster and flu vaccination programmes are in full swing. Vaccines are our best line of defence against both viruses and will help keep people out of hospital this winter.
While we have made great progress with almost 10 million people already boosted, including me, we are actively encouraging, through our new marketing campaign, everybody eligible to come forward for both jabs as soon as possible.’
The government is not interested in excess deaths.
October 29, 2022
We had our flu jabs two weeks ago and our boosters last Saturday. Very efficient. The flu jab was done at our surgery and the Covid Booster at a small local hospital converted to a vaccination centre last year. No side effects from either.
October 29, 2022
Non-exposure to minor illnesses, warm germ growing environments, lack of exercise, processed foods, high intake of sugar/salt/fat, allergic reaction to modern high use chemicals in production of things, almost zero detection of serious health issues the worst be cancers. Sardine transport methods enabling easy virus spread.
Just a few thoughts you could be working on.
October 29, 2022
The inability to get an appointment or check-up, Mickey.
October 29, 2022
PS, If you work for a living even harder to get an appointment or check-up with a doctor.
October 29, 2022
Well done Lifelogic for continuing to plug away at this very important issue that everyone would rather ignore
October 30, 2022
But LL isn’t “plugging away”, LL is whining on a small blog, not doing anything substantive or constructive otherwise they would have boasted to all and sundry.
LL doesn’t even have their own blog but freeloads off our host to spew out repetitious digital effluent.
October 29, 2022
Our first PM to put the interests of the UK first rather than appearing Good on the global stage which all these COPX events are. Just a COP out and a box ticking exercise for the great and the good to show they are doing something about climate change. Chopping down Rain forests to feed an ever-growing world population is not addressed. The Climate is warming, is it just the increasing level of CO2 only due to burning fossil fuel? It won’t last for ever, so we do need to find alternative fuels.
The war between Ukraine and Russia has had a major impact on the raise in CO2, and death rates if that is considered important by COP. The West (America) is happy to blow up a pipeline and release menthane gas as if we did not have enough cows doing it to feed the ever-growing population.
So perhaps the PM could spend some time trying to stop the war in the interests of Climate change not spending ÂŁbillions on arms to keep it going
A Nuclear winter will really change the climate fast, like tomorrow rather than in a decade or so.
October 29, 2022
The war is the expected clash of civilisations (Ukraine is just one battlefield; it’s citizens used as cannon fodder by a desperate,dying west trying to put off it’s own demise).So,Sunak will continue to fund the conflict -as I think he has already indicated-after all it is the interests he represents that will be amongst the biggest losers from a Eurasian victory and the new financial and trade system that will take over.
October 29, 2022
I don’t believe the issue over CO2 is that important, compared with the far bigger problems of pollution and habitat destruction.
We can’t directly influence what goes on in other countries, although we could turn off imports from destructive countries.
When it comes to doing our bit, eliminating immigration is the best thing we can do. More people mean habitat destruction to make way for housing, and the sewers already unable to cope with the current load will be relieved of the additional effluent.
October 29, 2022
+1
October 29, 2022
I agree 100% with you Dave as I said in my post too. A prime example of this is in Worthing where woods that have been there since before I was born have all been destroyed for ugly, cheap and tiny boxes they call houses.
October 29, 2022
I too support cleaning the environment, I just don’t the believe the UN IPPC report nor its climate crusaders attack on co2
October 30, 2022
I would agree though add security of strategic needs and industries – relying on energy (oil & gas) from unfriendly sources is a big issue as is giving away key industries. On shoring those and accepting the higher costs would enable us to control impact to a greater degree.
October 29, 2022
Very prescient I think.
Beware of wasting hard earned cash
On worthless junk of tin and plastic
We must stop buying Chinese trash
Economy sinks, lest measures drastic
Ray Lucero Saturday, December 15, 2007
October 29, 2022
I broadly agree with Sir Johnâs comments relating to COP27 however would LL and his ilk stop going on about CO2. This gas is essential to life – the impact of human activity on the behaviour of the atmosphere is the issue. Many of the causes are related to the growth in world population and our life styles. As individuals we can adapt and endeavour to persuade others to change but we should focus on the root causes and potential solutions. Going on about CO2 is irrelevant and demonstrates an ignorance of the issues.
October 29, 2022
Paul. I hate to say this but LL is very aware that CO2 is not a problem. He states this fact often. He only mentions it because our government is fixated on it. I think you’ll find that nearly all of us on this forum don’t worry about CO2. Sorry if I’m wrong but I think you must be new to John’s diaries because if you had been reading LLs posts you would realise he’s not a believer in the CO2 scam.
October 30, 2022
But LL doesn’t offer anything, no solutions, but whining.
LL whines about EVs and new cars but boasts about not buying new cars so has no influence nor makes any contribution at all in the process, so is relying on everyone else to solve the problem for him/her.
LL has stated he does not live in the UK so why does he whine on this blog so much – perhaps his property development/investments are at risk? In which case he is taking everyone for fools.
And yet a number of people on here lap up every word.
October 30, 2022
a solution to what?
October 30, 2022
Whatever he whines about
October 29, 2022
LL agrees CO2 is a non-problem.
October 29, 2022
Maybe the State can assert control over every person’s economic life? That’s surely the best method to stop people buying petrol, meat, milk, bread, electricity or gas? Or maybe UBI which is Labour’s method to impose Socialist control?
I know John’s new party leader is an advocate of digital control using CBDC’s which in effect means Stasiesque intervention in every one of our purchasing decisions when the State implements controls over our bank transactions
I’m a big fan of democracy and freedom. If people choose to vote for politicians and parties that propose such a future in which intellectual, economic and social free-will is simply abolished then they’ll have to suffer the consequences of their ignorance, naivety and stupidity
beware the politician who proposes you can have something for nothing, they have intent, sinister intent
October 29, 2022
Politicians always ensure that any enterprising activity by the entrepreneur is burdoned with permissions, permits, and above all taxes to feed their own none productive expensive activities. When UK productivity is pilloried bare in mind it includes such as the police force that doesn’t turn up when you have been burgled. There is no price for failure of government activity and it all does fail, whereas private enterprise on failure goes out of business.
October 29, 2022
”beware the politician” that write the ‘small-print’ in manifesto and later suggest that it a major key policy of government
October 29, 2022
It’s an awful place and I don’t blame the PM for not wanting to go there.. however HM should be facilitated if He so wishes. We know from the Sochi games of what can happen if world leaders don’t turn up to these events especially the opening and closing ceremonies when it is seen as a snub?
October 29, 2022
Over the years it has been the exception rather than the rule for the PM to attend the COP summits including when Labour were in power. So Sunak is just following precedent.
October 29, 2022
COP27, to give it its correct title âUnited Nations IPPC COP27â like the WEF (Davos), IMF, WTO etc âŠtheyâre just departments of the unelected all controlling world government which has grown into a monster employing political elites
October 29, 2022
Lying in H of C appears to have reached new levels (too many examples to give).
There’s a simple formula here. People who lie don’t ultimately care about / respect their political party, Parliament / Country when they lie. It’s all about them and their career (which is ultimately detrimental to their party, Parliament, Country in one way or other!). There is always a price to be paid for every lie.
There is nothing wrong being ambitious. There’s good ambition and bad ambition. But lying is always part of bad ambition and bad ambition destroys politics and our country.
So hopefully people will call out lying in Parliament and in politics in general as it is now in new territories never seen before in British politics.
October 29, 2022
Not just lying in Parliament but outside it like on TV (which is much easier to get away with) and in media in general
October 29, 2022
JR: “I think the PM was right to say he needs to stay in the UK … ”
Well, it’s probably more the fact that a Tory Prime minister can’t affort to leave the country these days, or he might find himself demoted to the back benches. He has to stay at home to fend off another Tory coup d’etat.
I don’t thing the Tory party is actually a coherent party any more. More a collection of cats stuck in the same sack on the way to the river.
October 29, 2022
Well put.
October 30, 2022
None of the parties are coherent, they are all broad cults though I suspect the CUP is the broadest as it has been more successful getting into power and so attracts those who wish power under any shield.
The only thing you can do as voter is vote the person not the party but then party selection can limit your choice.
October 30, 2022
he needs to stay put, else someone might take over his seat while away….
October 29, 2022
Pursuit of the anti christ CO2 is to say the least a debatable activity and in its terms pursuit of the identified rogue nations is a worthless activity. Consider this, if you succeed you lose the sources of items they export since you virtuously sent all the relevant manufacturing industry to them.
What you can do, but seem incapable of, is clean up the planet. Make all fishing nets and lines from degradable natural fibre, then make it illegal to use anything less in our waters. Change all food packaging to degradable, re-useable, or returnable. Drive for hydrogen to be the basis of vehicle propellant. Insist that all industrial processes that require it are filtered to ensure nothing noxious goes to atmosphere. Stop buying from nations that refuse to come on board with similar attitudes. Grow more natural material, Scotland is a vast unpopulated space. As an interim policy, prior to hydrogen, atomic energy and fusion energy, expand the use of our own on land and offshore gas oil and coal because energy is not wasted in getting overseas sourced fuel to us. Create a national uniform industry for the recycling of all that is no longer of use. Finally via the internet and TV satanise those who wantonly abuse our country by illegal tipping or throwing their unwanted takeaway food container out of the car window. That should keep you away from devising more and more taxation for more and more government spending and allow you to sort the two outstanding 3rd form problems of the NIP and immigration.
October 30, 2022
Some interesting ideas but this is a Conservative blog – so how will you encourage the private sector to invest in these proposals in a way that benefits but not penalises this country and our people?
October 30, 2022
Dixie, the only incentive for the private sector is the ability to make a profit unhampered by unneccessary red tape. Profit penalises nobody including a tax hungry government and their money absorbing profitless virtue projects.
October 29, 2022
Words and deeds don’t always match . When Biden walks on the COP platform he probably won’t remember what he’s there for or where the exit is . COP means nothing more than stage ideology and is a huge waste of money .
October 29, 2022
Sir John,
Most of the delegates that attend these COP conferences are living in a bubble. They arrive in their private jets and are chauffered to their luxury hotels. They catch up with all their like-minded colleagues while dining in the best restaurants. Then virtue signal their concern for the environment and that something must be done. Before it’s all over they’ve already planned their next big all-expenses-paid / nothing-ever-achieved gathering.
Meanwhile in the real world people will do whatever they can to stay warm, whether it’s mining for coal to burn or chopping down forests for firewood. The best we can hope for is a mild winter.
October 29, 2022
He’s too busy to go to COP27 but not to busy to go to the World Cup? Someone has his priorities seriously screwed up
October 29, 2022
Oh I don’t know – both a waste of time and money.
October 29, 2022
There is no climate emergency/crisis/breakdown as evidenced by :
– The activists fly in high numbers in their private jets to jamborees such as COP27 when they could be using the internet to cut back their CO2 emissions.
– The activists have no problem with China and India increasing their burning of coal to 5.6 billion tons/year.
– The activists have no issues with closing down our industry and importing goods from coal-fired China despite this increasing overall global CO2 emissions.
– The activists have deliberately selected the most economy damaging way to decarbonise. Rather than nuclear and green hydrocarbons they have selected low energy density, expensive and intermittent wind and solar supplied by (coal-fired) China together with the impractical electrification of transport and heating and with no non-fossil fuel systems existing for long-term back up.
It is clear the whole purpose of this fake emergency is to de-industrialise and impoverish the West even though this war on CO2 will bring famine to many throughout the world as collateral damage.
October 29, 2022
Off topic, a letter that I have just sent to our local newspaper:
“Thanks to our MP Theresa May people in Northern Ireland may soon be asked to vote in an early, unnecessary, and probably pointless, election. But how can she be blamed for that?
Well, five years ago when she was Prime Minister Irish politicians made a fuss about the goods that might cross the open land border into the Irish Republic once we had left the EU.
Instead of offering to adapt the UK’s system of export controls to cover those goods, Theresa May agreed to impose EU import controls on all goods coming into the whole of the UK.
After MPs rejected her plan to reduce the entire country to a ‘vassal state’ she was replaced by Boris Johnson, who thought it would be fine to inflict that just on Northern Ireland.
Hampered by wishful thinking many genuine unionists in the province were slow to grasp the full extent of their betrayal by that fake ‘Conservative and Unionist’ Prime Minister.
But now the situation is that the Democratic Unionist Party has refused to participate in a power-sharing executive for six months, so the UK government must order a fresh election.
And while in the past the Irish government has raised the spectre of a possible resurgence of republican terrorism, now there are stirrings among the loyalist paramilitaries in the north.
None of this was necessary; a collaborative scheme to protect the separate markets on each side of the border was feasible, but neither Theresa May nor the Irish politicians wanted it.”
October 29, 2022
Tidying up old emails I have just come across my file copy of this comment in February 2019:
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2019/02/05/the-euuk-volte-face-on-diesels/#comment-993650
“Oh, look at this utterly stupid promise, as stupid as ruling out âno dealâ, she might just as well have said to the Irish government and the EU:
âSay what I must give you so you wonât erect a hard border on your side.â
âNorthern Ireland does not have to rely on the Irish government or the European Union to prevent a return to borders of the past. The UK government will not let that happen, I will not let that happen.â
Really? So what is she going to do if the EU starts putting up barriers and customs houses? Lead raiding parties across at night to dismantle them?”
“Of course something which would be within the power of the UK government and Parliament would be to pass and enforce a new UK law to control what goods could be carried across the land border into the Irish Republic; and if present UK law is a sufficient guarantee that there is no need for routine checks on goods as they cross the border then a new UK law could also provide that guarantee.”
October 29, 2022
So China emits 30% of the CO2, it also has circa 20% of world population. Measuring per capita is the only fair way to quote man made CO2. See this chart.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-co2-by-fuel?time=2019&country=CHN~USA~OWID_WRL~IND~GBR~BRA~AUS~SWE~FRA~DEU~ZAF
Keep in mind that 60+% of the cumulative man made CO2 in the atmosphere today, was put there by the USA, the UK, followed by the later industrialising Europe.
October 29, 2022
acorn : âKeep in mind that 60+% of the cumulative man made CO2 in the atmosphere today, was put there by the USA, the UK, followed by the later industrialising Europe.â
Yes, the UKâs Industrial Revolution meant we were the first country to emit the much needed CO2 emissions to increase the level of CO2 in the atmosphere thus greening the planet and enabling the whole world to increase its food production.
For the majority of the last 500 million years since the start of the Cambrian explosion, CO2 levels were many times that of today. But from 150 million years ago CO2 has been on a continuous decline as shelled marine creatures sequestered CO2 faster than volcanoes were by then emitting CO2. This is why we have 100 million billion tons of carbonaceous rocks in the earthâs crust plus of course the oil and gas deposits.
For the last 800,000 years the CO2 has dropped 9 times to 180 ppm, just 30 ppm above the minimum level below which plants cannot survive. The last occasion being at the most recent ice age just 11,000 years ago. So the UKâs Industrial Revolution may well have saved life on earth as well as providing the template for increased prosperity for all, particularly the democratic West.
October 30, 2022
Gosh .. nobody burned anything before the industrial revolution? at all? anywhere?
The Chinese have been mining, trading and burning coal for 3000 years.
So where is your tested, proven and incontrovertible data to justify such crass statements regarding the UK, USA and Europe.
PS why not just emigrate to a lefty EU country, you will be so much happier in your utopia .. though still likely to be generating lots of CO2
October 31, 2022
Absolutely correct.I recently read “New Rome-The Roman Empire in the East AD395-700” by Paul Stephenson,published earlier this year.It has a chapter “Metallurgy & the Early Anthropocene” which ,using archaeology and modern analytical techniques,examines the pollution and environmental impact of Roman industrialisation(particularly metalworking-especially the widespread use of lead-the “Roman plastic”) and globalization(within an obviously smaller known world)-and the effects of the collapse of this activity following the demise of the western Roman Empire:
“Roman metallurgy has left signals across Northern Europe and the North Atlantic world in the form of anthropogenic heavy metal contamination of the soil,sediment and ice.Contamination is so substantial and significant that it has been identified as the start of the Anthropocene,the period through which we are living,a discrete chapter of the Holocene,our current geological epoch.
…….the levels of lead pollutants fall away rapidly towards 400AD,only beginning to rise again after 800AD and not reaching Roman levels until c1700.”
(800 AD-the date of Charlemagne’s coronation – the first time a “European” polity had been established since the demise of the western empire.)
October 29, 2022
There is no climate emergency/crisis/breakdown :
– Satellite data shows average global temperature rising by just 0.13 degrees C per decade and sea levels rising by just 1.6 mm/year.
– Summer sea ice at the North Pole is unchanged despite the BBC et al predicting in 2007 that this would disappear by 2013. Snow and ice levels in the northern hemisphere are unchanged. The Antarctic ice sheet was gaining but is currently losing just 5.5 ppm/year.
– There is no empirical evidence that hurricanes, droughts, floods (rainfall), tornadoes etc. are increasing and in fact deaths/year from natural disasters are decreasing despite large increases in population. Even the amount of coral on the Great Barrier Reef is the highest itâs been since records began in 1985.
– Greenland ice core data and speleothem records show temperatures have been 3 degrees C higher than today since the last ice age ended just 11,000 years ago and the world did not end as a result. In fact the world did not end when the average global temperature went to 17 degrees C higher than today as it has done many times over the last 500 million years since the start of the Cambrian explosion. Ice at the poles is unusual.
– The Antarctic Vostok ice core data over the last 450,000 years clearly shows CO2 following temperature, not vice versa as claimed.
– CO2 levels have been falling from many times its current value for the last 150 million years and in fact NASA data shows that 9 times over the last 800, 000 years (including at the last ice age 11,000 years ago) CO2 has dropped to 180 ppm, just 30 ppm over the level below which plants, and hence all like on earth cannot survive. We have been that close to extinction.
CO2 is not a pollutant but necessary for all life on our planet and needs to be increased to promote plant growth and prevent famines.
October 29, 2022
Our real government, the WEF, will be at the COP meeting. So the pretend local council which Rishi is the face of, which just does what WEF says, dont need to go.
The barnett formula should be changed to reduce the amount given to Scotland by the amount the Scottish politicians waste on attending stuff like this.
October 29, 2022
The problem with having a bunch of Arts graduates running the country is that not understanding anything about science, they defer to any crackpot or malignantly intended policy initiative because they are terrified of challenging it and possibly appearing stupid (which they are). Well, they do have Alok Sharma who has a science degree so he is obviously their climate ‘expert’ to deploy on the ‘world’ stage. However, it is not necessary to know science to adduce the inherent idiocy of what the Tory Party is doing when elementary logic will suffice.
Repeal the Climate Change Act and stop destroying our economy and driving the poor into fuel poverty whilst no major economy is doing the same.
As for the need for Europe to remove its dependence on Russian gas, this only applies so long as the UK supports the US ‘rules-based system’ and the US entitlement to blow up pipelines so that it can sell US gas at three times the price and remain as it believes, incorrectly, as world hegemon.
October 29, 2022
Another 1,000 illegals escorted through Dover just this morning. All fighting age males, as usual. Disgraceful.
October 29, 2022
any train drivers, bus drivers, miners, nurses, surgeons – wannabe MPs?
October 29, 2022
Barbara: They’ll be the only ones voting Tory at the next general election. (Not.)
October 29, 2022
As I have said all along, there is a spiritual root to all these issues.
With all due respect, we now have leaders who swear their allegiance on texts other than the Bible – this in itself is alien to the Christian foundations of our culture. And many of those who claim to be Christian, are nominal, deny the truth of those foundations and even promulgate ungodly laws. And no wonder, for they even believe the Creation created itself through naturalistic processes over billions of years. Consider the complexity of any organism, or simply, say, of the human eye. How ridiculous! Hence they honoured Darwin by burying him in Westminster Abbey. ‘The science is settled’, they said. Well if you believe such madness, then you’re eventually going to end up believing ‘the lie’, that there is no God, and everything depends on us – this is the nub of Net Zero – no wonder we are in such a mess!
As Reformation Day (October 31st) approaches, and not so far away, the celebration of the birth of our incarnate Creator and Saviour, Immanuel (as God with us), we would all do well to check out his word (much of it prophecy relating to our own day), and the following statement, addressed to the Jewish hierarchy with ominous consequences – first for them, and now for us: “This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Apostle Peter, Acts 4:11-12).
October 29, 2022
As a lot of comments today have implied a lot of the problems could be due to the population growth world wide which never seems to taken into account as a big part of the problem.
The tele tape on GBNews around lunchtime highlighting thousands of woman today demonstrating for better childcare.
How things have changed. When I announced my wife was pregnant with our first child my mother’s words are etched into my memory. Lovely dear, how nice.You want them, you have them and you bring them up. When I look around my immediate area things have changed somewhat. Perhaps we should have implemented the American idea
” one strike and your out”. You can make one mistake but don’t expect the state to keep picking up the tab.
Parents cannot keep abdicating their responsibilities to the state and public services.
October 30, 2022
family support and financial benefits should stop at 2 children, thereafter all those related areas cease. The alternative is surgery to ensure no more pregnancies.
October 29, 2022
Carbon dioxide is not now, never has been and never will be the main driver of climate change.
Simple.
October 30, 2022
But against that assertion lots of scientists in thrall to something get paid lots and produce lots of scientificy papers and data to assert otherwise.
You have to do so much more than simly whine about it and bare assertions clearly haven’t worked because they are getting the money and are clearly winning..
November 1, 2022
I just had a look at the pay scale of scientists at the MetOffice (uk.indeed.com, 10/10/2022 , âScientist yearly salaries in the United Kingdom at Met Officeâ). The average salary is quoted as ÂŁ30,822, varying between ÂŁ14,000 for a trainee to ÂŁ53,000 for a scientist with experience.
Do you really think that to be âgetting paid lotsâ.
My plumber and my garagist are way above this range.
October 29, 2022
Petrol pump price
28-10-20 ÂŁ1.17p
28-10-21 ÂŁ1.43p
28-10-22 ÂŁ1.66p
Thanks to this government policy of net-zero
October 29, 2022
Nobody, apparently, has suggested that the Prince of Wales might go. It looks a bit strange for us to be handing over the Presidency, and sending – Alok Sharma to do the honours. Isnât he now a backbencher? It feels as though we are backing out of international leadership in global matters, whatever we think of the rights and wrongs of the issue.
October 30, 2022
We should be backing out – along with the realisation that countries are either potentially violently opposed to us per se, wish to isolate our past influence and military power, or do their best to ignore most things we stand for – or stood for a number of Governments ago. The message should be ‘get real’.
October 29, 2022
The Green cult members meeting for a jamboree in the luxurious holiday resort of Sharm El-Sheikh are composed of 5 different sects :
The first sect, despite the science and the ecological history, oblivious to the consequences, really does believe that CO2 determines temperature and that the planet will go up in smoke if we continue to emit CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels. These are the âsave the world (but not life) at all costsâ group.
The second sect has initiated the false science in order to impoverish and economically destroy the West by persuading its PPE and ancient/modern language trained leaders to transition away from cheap, reliable fossil fuels to expensive and intermittent renewables coupled with impractical electric transport and heating. Evidenced by the complete disregard for nuclear, the only affordable low carbon technology existing and the fact that they have no issue with China burning billions of tons of coal each year. These are the fifth column communists.
The third sect are anti-human and wish to see all human life extinguished from the planet. In the short term they are quite happy to see the curtailment of cheap, reliable fossil fuels leading to deaths through hyperthermia or starvation through lack of fertiliser or through the general impoverishment of mankind. In the long-term they wish to see CO2 reduced to below the level at which plants, and hence all life on earth, can survive. For if volcanoes do not emit sufficient CO2 into the atmosphere and mankind pursues a net zero CO2 policy then eventually all the CO2 in the atmosphere will be sequestered by marine shelled animals. This fall in atmospheric CO2 has been going on for the last 150 million years causing a large drop in CO2 from many times todayâs level to just 30 ppm above the level below which plants cannot survive at the last ice age (11,000 years ago). These are Greenpeace.
The fourth sect simply see huge financial opportunities from the transition from cheap, reliable fossil energy to expensive and intermittent energy.
The fifth sect, both individuals and governments, see the opportunities for power and control of the worldâs population through lack of energy and food, restricted travel, the introduction of a carbon credit system etc.
October 30, 2022
You forgot the sixth set – sit outside the other groups whining at each other achieving nothing whatsoever.
October 29, 2022
COPs have long been about some countries trying to persuade the “rich” West to pay them money. Since we have no money left they are going to be deeply frustrated. Meanwhile, the fiction behind climate “ambitions” is unravelling fast as the realities of trying to maintain energy supply hit home.
It will of course be a long while before the fictions behind climate “science” are permitted to be examined, and the whole charade abandoned. Perhaps one of the most important exposĂ©s comes from Wijngaarden and Happer who show that increases in GHGs will have a much smaller impact than climate models pretend, using the proper physics.
October 30, 2022
Wijngaarden and Happer, 2019: I read the 59 pages of the original 2019 manuscript on co2coalition.org.
As presented the science looks great, these people know their radiative transfer theory, their quantum mechanics and spectroscopy. At first reading one wonders why this paper has not been published in âJ. Quantitative Spectroscopy and Radiative Transferâ.
However a more attentive reading shows that the study is incomplete or fails in a number of important points:
– as pointed out already in the abstract, they use a recent spectroscopic database, HITRAN2016, but without considering any âcontinuumâ effect, an effect important when considering absorption by H2O in a warm and moist atmosphere, specially when computing fluxes near the surface as such H20 continuum is proportional to the water vapour partial pressure. This might explain why they concentrate their study not to fluxes at the surface but fluxes at the top of the atmosphere (their figures 22 p.47) as such a continuum effect is almost invisible seen from the top of the atmosphere.
– then how comes Figures 22 do not present the actual difference in fluxes between the observations and the simulations? This is a standard way to present results since the 1980 ) it is called Long-wave Flux Residuals and was introduced as a tool by Shepard Clough from Atmospheric Environmental Research, Inc). Well could it be because despite the authorsâ claim to the contrary the agreement between the two sides of Figures 42 is not that great in all parts of the long-wave spectrum that matter, ie around the 15 micron band of CO2 (660 cm-1) the 9.6 micron band of O3 (1040 cm-1) or even the rotation band of H2O around 400-500 cm-1?
– finally and more importantly that study does not prove what it said it would: all the calculations are static, ie a computation is done with a given concentration of a GHG then another one is performed with a higher concentration. But such a methodology only provides what can be called âinitial forcingâ and does not provide anything on the response of the atmosphere to such a forcing. With radiative transfer models much less sophisticated than what W&H use, Syukuro Manabe showed in the 1960s that a small initial forcing produces a much larger response in terms of temperature, using first a one-dimensional radiative convective model (1964, 1967: Thermal equilibrium of the atmosphere with a given distribution of relative humidity, then the very first general circulation model (Manabe & Wetherald, 1975).
So to me W&H is a nice undergraduate study of static radiation transfer but is not a proof whatsoever of the overestimation of the response of climate models, purely and simply because this last question is not addressed.
October 30, 2022
We bow to your undoubtedly incredible intelligence.
No one on here can cut and paste like you heffy.
October 29, 2022
We should apply carrot/stick leverage: penalise those countries who are not reducing their emissions and promote those countries that do (based on some standardised/benchmarked/per capita measureable calculations).
Penalties: this would include China, thus we should not buy goods/services which are produced using mainly fossil fuels.
October 29, 2022
I have refrained hitherto from expressing an opinion here on climate change through lack of technical knowledge though that doesn’t seem to stop others.
My considered opinion is we should do nothing painful nor expensive about it because:
1) It is not even certain the world is facing longterm global warming because there are numerous factors that contribute in different ways to global temperature and nobody can predict for certain how they will interact. Furthermore scientific ‘truths’ frequently change over time but the only certainty according to scientists is that scientists are always correct at the present time (like the Communist Party)-remember the Millennium Bug etc;.
2)If there is global warming there will be change but we can adapt to that as humanity always has even without modern technology. At times the world has been more than 10C warmer and in the Ice Ages it has been colder. Though it won’t suit The Maldives it could suit Britain and Canada if temperatures rose by 5 degrees C.
3)If there were life threatening global warming people would in future probably develop new technologies quite quickly to counteract it as they have done with Covid.
4) As China and India, the most populous countries don’t seem concerned enough to do much, why should we suffer from taking very expensive actions to little global effect?
5) I don’t see global warming as the biggest risk to human survival. The proliferation into ever more hands of weapons of mass extinction is a greater risk as is the exponential and perhaps uncontrollable development of Artificial Intelligence.
October 30, 2022
What really annoys me is they way that the government has used “net zero” as an excuse to close down steelworks. We need to make steel for our survival. We should be building more steelworks not closing them down.
October 31, 2022
Add to your annoyance the fact that Northern Ireland is subject to 25% tariffs on steel being imported by them from GB.
Headline 28/10 Politico: ” Britain’s climate leadership unravels under Rishi Sunak”
“Britain” has failed to pay USD 300 million it promised to two key climate funds, leaving it facing further international embarrassment in the final days of its stint as the world’s official climate action leader ………