The Coronation is based on ancient ceremony from a time when monarchs had executive power as head of government. Our service also reflects the complex relationship with the Christian Church that emerged as the established Church of England from the Reformation.
Last century coronations evolved into grand spectacles, to create a holiday mood for the public and to engage people in the change of Head of State. The great show became a celebration of our country, a projection of our country to the rest of the world, and a search for what unites us. Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition sit down together, smile on the proceedings and affirm God save the King. In return the monarch promises to serve us all and to stay above political controversy.
I trust todayâs event will proceed faultlessly and be enjoyed by all who participate, in person or at home. In a free society we are all at liberty to have our own views on both the individual monarch and the institution of monarchy. We can join in and enjoy or do something else today. For our countryâs sake it is good if all goes well, foreign guests are welcomed, and diplomacy advanced in the margins of the varied programme. The new King will use his influence both to accept his role as Head of the Anglican Church and his interest in including all the faiths in the service.
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May 6, 2023
I remember the last Coronation, 70 years ago. I wasnât sure I would ever see another one, but by the Grace of God, Iâm still here.
I wish you, Sir John, and all on this site, a very happy day, however you wish to spend it.
May 6, 2023
Same here as an 8 year old
I remember playing out in the rain and nipping back in to watch the 12 inch Bush bought specialty for the coronation
I wish King Charles alkthe best. I just hope he keeps his nose our of politics and the net zero scam
He has a lot to live up to after the very successful Elizabethan period just ended.
May 6, 2023
@Cheshire+Girl +1
I also remember the early morning start and just as it is here today it was wet and drizzly. People camped out everywhere in London, the massive barrier across the end of the Strand that was closed once the procession started. A long day sitting on my Father’s shoulder on the Haymarket, massive procession.
May 6, 2023
I was a 6 year old at the time of the last coronation, and remember sitting on the floor with a few local children, at the house next door to the guest house where we were staying when on holiday in Whitby, and where they had a television that we were watching the events on.
I find the whole thing rather laughable now.
May 6, 2023
When our nation, our culture is on display, I am immensely proud of the huge historic achievements which created it. An Oath of Allegiance to the King, who represents the British People, is an easy decision to take. The Monarch has one job, to Defend our Glorious Constitution from all politicians which it constrains. If the King differentiated between himself, his private preferences, his family, and The Monarchy, he would make it easier for the country to support The Monarch.
May 6, 2023
I am less enthusiastic than you, Lynn:
‘While speaking at an open-air event in [Cornwall], Charles said national commitments to reach net zero have ânever been more vitally importantâ.’ ITV News July 2022.
‘Speaking Wednesday night at a state banquet at… the official residence of the German president, Charles noted that both the U.K. and Germany were united by their focus on âpromoting global health, net-zero and protecting our shared democratic values.â’ Sky News March 2023
Both before and after his accession, he has continued to promote the climate alarmist agenda.
May 6, 2023
Agree
May 6, 2023
Sadly the UK’s constitution – such as it is – is about the least constraining of politicians in Europe.
May 6, 2023
But only once, for a short time have we had a dictator, whereas almost all of Europe has been under dictatorship at one time or another. I’ll think I’ll pass on your idea of democracy and stick with what has served us for a thousand years. We do of course have idiot politicians, none more so than today, but they do not last, our democracy does.
May 6, 2023
@graham1946 Not quiet true, as a generalisation a dictatorship is an entity that is Ruling the People, without regards to the People. Whereas in a Democracy the leadership is voted in by the people and empowered by the people to serve them and the Country.
Our current rulers, are not even their with the support of their own Party.
In that respect how would that suggest the current leadership and even Parliament fits in?
I would even suggest with a few exceptions our so-called up themselves Political Class is trashing what is left of Democracy.
May 6, 2023
Rutte doesn’t seem constrained!
May 6, 2023
Rutted is a (choose your own description) he is leading Holland down a very dark path and I think he may suffer a messy fate
May 6, 2023
What specific constraints do you want NLH?
May 6, 2023
You mean war, tyranny, subjugation ⊠all that stuff? Why should YOU be proud? Whatâs it got to do with you?
Represents the people? In what way? Iâd say represents a ruling class, an elite, the âestablishmentâ.
May 6, 2023
You are wrong on both counts. I am the living spokesperson of my family who gave their all for those thousands of years to do their bit in creating this generous, kind, honest, unparalleled nation. The greatest centre of learning the world has ever seen. The Commonwealth nations refuse to let go of the U.K. and their people flock here to live under English law and with British people, giving the lie to your vicious and wrong assertions.
My forebears earned my right to speak.
May 6, 2023
Good words Lynn
May 6, 2023
Lynn : Agreed. 1000%.
May 6, 2023
‘The greatest centre of learning the world has ever seen.’
In modern terms perhaps, Go back a number of centuries and many might contest that statement.
May 6, 2023
MT, you took it from me. By 1300, Oxford and Cambridge were there but so was Bologna that had started before them, and there also were Salamanca, Padua, Paris, Napoli and Coimbra.
And in modern times, where should one put Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Princeton, ⊠? (See TNE ranking).
May 7, 2023
We are speaking of the levels of learning and discovery over every subject. Nothing before or since can hold a candle to Oxford and Cambridge.
We are acknowledging a culture of excellence, not a single brilliant individual whose ideas were mostly suppressed by the ancient regimes of Continental Europe.
Of course the learning and invention which learning enables spread way beyond Oxford and Cambridge. For instance it was in the Lit and Phil at Newcastle where the electric lightbulb was first demonstrated.
Iâm surprised you donât know that – itâs uncontested. Look at the sheer number of patents registered. In short the British people made the modern world. Some achievement, unequalled by the entirety of the rest of the worlds population.
Those are the shoulders on which you stand.
May 7, 2023
Sorry, if I had ever stood on some giantsâ shoulders (which I sincerely doubt) , they would all have been from Germany (Heisenberg, Planck, Einstein, Wien), France (de Broglie), Canada (W.L.Godson) or the USA (Fermi, R.Ambartzumian, W.Elsasser, Goody, R.Feynman, E.Lorenz).
Developments in quantum mechanics, spectroscopy and radiative transfer were rather rare in the UK, even if applications of what had originally been done elsewhere happen(ed) regularly. The only Brit in my âpantheonâ would be Edward Milne.
You generalise out of ignorance.
May 6, 2023
Not so much of a grand spectacle as the last coronation.
Instead of a photogenic young woman who became a figurehead and only gave carefully scripted speeches on certain occasions, we have an old man with his own views that have been widely known for ages.
No more âHow do you do.â âHave you come far?â
Not much bunting around my way. No street parties.
Good Luck to the new king anyway.
May 6, 2023
The plan to hide Conservative election results worked well.
Only brief articles in the papers, well below Coronation updates.
May 6, 2023
Everyone should be worried about the turnout.
22% apparently.
May 6, 2023
Action is need this day
May 6, 2023
Well if the people vote Conservative giving them a large majority but still get socialism why bother? Many may think. They did not even deliver a real Brexit.
May 6, 2023
IndeedâŠand that is why people arenât voting.
Our âdemocracyâ has driven us up a dead end!
Lied to and manipulated.
May 6, 2023
Good morning.
Gosh ! That it a bit pessimistic.
Not much bunting up I see. I wonder why ?
Anyway. Good luck to King Charles III on his big day.
God save the King, and all that đ
May 6, 2023
Indeed god save the King and all that. Monarchy is better than the alternatives but please keep out of politics mate we already know far too much about many of your rather silly views.
May 6, 2023
âThere is no energy transition without critical minerals: no batteries, no electric cars, no wind turbines and no solar panels.â Jonathan Wilkinson Canadian Minister for Natural Resources. In the same article a map of all the areas planned for mining. Not forgetting the seabeds of course!
Green indeed!
May 6, 2023
The first thing I didnât see when pulling back the curtainsâŠ
Bunting!
I am actually quite surprised.
They love a good olâ knees up round here.
I know my hairdresser expressed disgust at the expenseâŠ
OhâŠthey must all be feeling the pinch?
After years and years of living high on the hog on borrowing etc. and the misery thereby caused!
IDS said something about dogs and bones?
May 6, 2023
Iâm the only one whoâs flying the union flag today in my front garden âŠ.maybe flying the flag still has racist overtones âŠno bunting no flags no street parties anywhere â part of our culture has disappeared
May 6, 2023
Strangled by socialism ( and worse)?
And yes! Some years back we were scared to fly the Union Jack.
May 6, 2023
Fly St.George’s instead – with pride.
May 6, 2023
Agree Glen. I nagged my husband to put up our union flag today and wished we had also bought an St Georges flag. I love to see the flags flying. Its one thing the Americans do in earnest. I watched the whole Coronation from the minute Charles left the place until they left the balcony. What a spectacle and once again our military did us proud. Brought tears to my eyes many times…..and the horses….brilliant. What a fantastic day for the UK and its being reported it raised a billion pounds for the economy.
May 6, 2023
I think the reason is that I could not find any to buy – no flags, no bunting, nothing. When football is on you can get it everywhere. Shows how low this country has sunk. In addition, the BBC seems to have been promoting Republicanism this last few weeks, never had that before. Probably the ‘yoof’ running this crappy organisation now, with no interest or knowledge of history, except to slag us off over slavery, which of course you’d think was unique in the world to us, going by the bleeding hearts. Our village is having a do on the village green on Monday with many attractions and sideshows etc. Hope the weather is good. Seems the big cities have lost their appetite for such these days. Not allowed to say why I dare say. Everyone is losing heart.
May 6, 2023
What an odd thing that is. What does it mean?
May 6, 2023
Itâs a prayer. The British National Anthem is unique in that it is a prayer. We acknowledge a higher order, no matter how great we are.
May 6, 2023
Mike
I am not sure, but around this time it is usually the thing to say. A bit like “Good morning.”
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May 6, 2023
I see no bunting.
Not like for the Jubilee.
Here, they ( carefully excluding us) were riotous with royal joy.
Well! Well!
AnywayâŠitâs raining!
May 6, 2023
Youâre in the wrong – or right – town. Where I live the square is fully buntinged and there are loads of Union Jacks. I would be worried about expressing republican views round here.
Lyme Regis was a republican stronghold in the civil war. The town withstood a months long siege by Royalist forces. I noticed the other day it is the âRoyal Borough of Lyme Regisâ – rubbing salt in the wound.
May 6, 2023
Yes. Obviously you are lucky.
My query really is.
What has changed (here) in the short time since The Jubilee?
May 6, 2023
Or unlucky. All the giant Union Jacks hanging from the buildings in and around the square – there must be 30 of them – plus a load of bunting – gives me the creeps. As for wearing a Not My King tee shirt – I think youâd get lynched.
May 6, 2023
The Monarch. No bunting or parties in Geordieland – the heartland of Royalists.
May 6, 2023
Could it simply reflect the fact that one town or district authority had some tens of thousands of pounds to spend/waste (PYO) on bunting whereas the others are skint? Just a thought.
May 7, 2023
Itâs private people who put up the bunting and flags and organize street parties Hefner. Or not, as they see fit. Why do you routinely default to the state? Eccentric.
May 7, 2023
Youâre kind of right: In the Woodley shopping precinct it appears to be Waitrose and a couple of other shops nearby that paid to put up the bunting.
May 6, 2023
Cuibono. I think negative reporting by the likes of the BBC have contributed to the anti monarchy views. It sickened me that on such an historical day we had to listen to debates on whether we should keep the monarchy. Can you imagine having an upstart like Macron or Blair as a Head of Stare? I’ll pass on that one thanks.
May 6, 2023
âŠand sadly the marching army today is in fact our entire army
May 6, 2023
Don’t worry about that, Glen, we’ve now got Ukrainians to fight our enemies with our weapons.
May 6, 2023
You say “The new King will use his influence both to accept his role as Head of the Anglican Church and his interest in including all the faiths in the service.â Will this include the new âCO2 is a devil gas & we are off to a fiery hell on earth religion?
Is it a good thing to promote all these, often self-contradictory, sexist & racist belief systems & and even modern religions?
What about the majority of people, atheists or agnostics who choose not to indoctrinate the young minds of their children into any belief system? For the sake of the monarchy King Charles please keep out of politics and particularly with your totally misguided and clearly hypocritical views on climate alarmism.
Hopefully he will now finally grow up. In 2018, when asked if he will be “a politically active King” he replied:- âOf course not I am not stupidâ, well we shall see.
May 7, 2023
We saw! 5 of the 24 Dukes invited but a place for 2 Presidents of the EU Commission. What have foreign heads of state to do with our anointing our King and each swearing allegiance to the other? Does Charles think foreign Kings will defend his realm?
May 6, 2023
“In return the monarch promises to serve us all and to stay above political controversy.”
Charles has interfered in politics all his adult life and, whatever he says, he won’t stop now. It will just be made less visible.
He supports Net Zero; the WEF and the aims of the so-called Great Reset, which no-one in the UK has voted for since it has never been put to them in a democratic vote. It is being imposed on us by Globalists and International Corporations.
I do not support Charles becoming King. Unlike the late Queen, he is not a symbol of UNITY. He is a symbol of an arrogant globalist elite who think they have the right to tell “the peasants” how they must live their lives and to make us poorer, colder, controlled and restricted because that is what THEY want.
May 6, 2023
Much truth in this alas.
May 6, 2023
My sentiments as well Donna, that is very true.
May 6, 2023
God save the King.
God save the British people.
May 6, 2023
Yes, BOF, God save the British people from what KC3 has been advocating.
May 6, 2023
If you’re expecting both of those, you’re going to be sadly disappointed.
I think it’s time to choose. I choose “God save the British people.”
May 6, 2023
Too late.
May 6, 2023
At this point in history we need a monarch that pledges allegiance to the people and to defend them against the depredations of government.
Instead we have a weak minded and deluded man whose allegiance appears to be more to the WEF and their gruesome and anti human agendas.
So instead we have to renounce Charles as king and attempt to make government powerless and irrelevant. If we fail we are doomed to a techno slavery worse than anything mankind has ever seen.
May 6, 2023
I understand though that this is a somewhat shorn effort?
Cut shortâŠbits left out.
The decision to have it was taken so everything should have been chucked at it.
A full on, slap up coronation! After all, what is any cost compared to say, benefits and foreign aid and hotel bills?
Stop the mouths of the critics with the pageantry of our heritage.
Make them gasp rather than carp about ÂŁ3 million ( or whatever) spent.
May 6, 2023
It has been suggested a cost of ÂŁ100 million of tax payersâ money (Evening Standard, 04/05/2023 âHow much will the Coronation cost, and who pays the bill?â standard.co.uk )
May 6, 2023
I think you always pull me up on my wild financial assertions? Lol
Oh well!
Itâs all peanuts in comparison to the bloated welfare state etc etc etc.
Might as well have had a real blast.
( They could have got the colour of the reupholstery right for a start!)
We need to be a bit more polished in our pageantry if we are to keep hold of it.
And less woke.
May 6, 2023
Don’t worry yourself over small change – just a day or so of NHS Test and Trace.
May 6, 2023
Thanks!
Yes! Yes! Iâd forgotten that!!
May 6, 2023
JR you are wonderful.
Those sublime words â in a free society we are all at liberty..â
Please God there are others who think as you do!
I crave constant reminding.
May 6, 2023
Alas a liberty under endless threats from government and international organisations.
May 6, 2023
God save the King!
May 6, 2023
God save the King
May 6, 2023
This King has endorsed a Left-wing political ideology that will destroy the very thing he supposedly represents. Like the Tories who have also endorsed the cancer of identity politics and progressive ideology, they will suffer politically as a result of their moral cowardice
Charles believes in nothing except access to privilege and he’ll sell his family’s soul to the devil to maintain it
My only hope is all those who watch enjoy the spectacle and there’s no harm to all in attendance
May 6, 2023
If the PM wants to win back voters he should butt out of their lives.
Tear up international treaties that strip us of our rights and freedoms.
Stop trying to sneak IDs onto us.
Stop postal voting.
Basically do the day job ( properly) and leave us alone.
We should know EVERYTHING about the govt. âŠNOT the other way around!!
Wasnât the idea of a govt. to step between us and a tyrannical monarchâŠNOT to become the tyrant?
May 6, 2023
Iâd be very happy to have an ID. And draconian fines for anyone, business or individual, employing anyone without an ID.
May 6, 2023
đđ» There is always one!!
May 6, 2023
Well maybe you should consider going to live in a country that would make you happy?
Youâd just need to make sure that whatever you made in your factory ( baby milk for example) didnât get contaminated/adulterated and you executed!
It would not stop with ID cards!
May 7, 2023
Oh everyone will have a valid document including most of the Indian, Chinese African and continental European populations. I understand they go for ÂŁ9.50 each in Karachi where you can also buy any other document you may need to escape scrutiny, claim benefits (or multiple benefits by producing multiple IDs).
When I worked in IT at CDC I was in charge of producing âtest dataâ. The objective was to make the programs crash, so we could fix them before deploying them. You would think there would be a similar process for draft laws.
May 7, 2023
Unfortunately already before Covid the trend has been to have more and more laws passed as secondary (aka delegated aka subordinate) legislation/statutory instrument, ie without much proper scrutiny by Parliament.
An Act of Parliament, ie primary legislation, is actually passed by Parliament, but so vague (âskeleton billâ) that only principles of policy are defined but all actual details on how the law will actually be effected are then filled by secondary legislation. Which gives broad powers to the Minister to fill the details with hardly any scrutiny by Parliament. Such scrutiny, via negative or affirmative procedure, involves not all MPs but Delegated Legislation Committees (16 to 18 MPs usually non-experts chosen by the chair of a Public Committee) who will have a maximum of 90 minutes to review the motion (positive procedure). Or in the case of the negative procedure 40 days for MPs to vote it down (which they rarely do, most of the time because they might not even be aware of or be bothered by how the procedure works).
Patelâs Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill and Bravermanâs Public Order Bill both have used this trick to be able to adjust the power given to the police in various circumstances, without the MPs or Lords having much to say in these matters.
Some might applaud such flexibility. Only be aware that such flexibility once granted could be similarly used by any subsequent government.
instituteforgovernment.org.uk 19/05/2020 âSecondary legislation: How is it scrutinised?â
Reply Not nearly as worrying as the thousands of EU laws that went through as SI we could not amend or vote down
May 8, 2023
Reply to reply: Interesting, you object to the EU-related SIs, fair enough, but seem to accept your governmentâs SIs. Rather curious as it could be said that they make eunuchs of all MPs in the HoC. Must be the same logics (!) that had made Conservative MPs accept Johnsonâs prorogation in September 2019.
Reply The SIs now derive from specific Acts of P which make the main decisions, unlike all the EU ones.
May 8, 2023
Mike, Under section 15 of the 2006 Act, an employer may be liable for a civil penalty if they employ someone who does not have the right to undertake the work in the uk. The fine goes up to ÂŁ20,000 if you hire someone without ID is that not high enough for you?
https://www.gov.uk/check-job-applicant-right-to-work
May 6, 2023
Much symathy with that Cuibono. Just stop meddling, whether it be with banks or gas bills or windfall tax or tenancies, and as you say tying us up with treaties we don’t want and don’t need. Just uphold law and order, defend the realm, including its borders, and keep money honest.
May 6, 2023
Good as we are at spectacles, this one didn’t require a separate Bank Holiday.
May 6, 2023
Why wasnât today the bank holiday? Other Countries extra âbank holidaysâ are often on the weekend, often unpaid or to be taken out of the holiday allowance.
This has caused a serious dip in trade for the whole of last week and yet another lost day of income that canât be recouped, three in a year. Then theyâll be wondering why the UKâs economy is dipping well give three extra days without the majority being able to trade and add up the cost properly.
May 7, 2023
Isnât 8th May VE Day?
May 7, 2023
Yes the first bank holiday in May was moved in 2020 to celebrate 75 years, that could have happened again this year, but people claim to want growth and more money yet reduce opportunities without choice to do so this past year. All public servants and ex public service big employers BT, British Gas, housing associations etc will be very happy and bully for them. How many operations are lost with an extra day off, how many doctors appointments, how many dental check ups? Three extra in one year should be accounted for when discussing lower GDP.
May 6, 2023
The pageantry will be the envy of the world. The weather British. The fawning despicable. The pecking order on display. The buildings to be admired. The flypast typical. The adoring crowds, but the heckling no doubt. The miseries slinking off to watch paint dry – that would be me.
I wish the man well, he has waited long enough. As at the funeral William should watch and plan changes.
The best part of today? My granddaughter’s 13th birthday.
May 6, 2023
Apparently the BBC is restricting access to Coronation footage!
May 6, 2023
When they look at this from the other side of the channel and see all the pomp and regalia I’m sure they will want some for themselves and push the small boats out all the more
May 6, 2023
Monarchy represents continuity and stability. It is the symbolic head of the governance of the United Kingdom and Commonwealth, and it is the ultimate public relations organisation in support of the United Kingdom. It is possibly the greatest asset we have alonside the creative ingenuity of the people, long may it last.
May 6, 2023
Agreed – perhaps if our children were educated in our history they would better understand the role of monarchy and parliament, which many clearly do not. As a young soldier I swore an oath of loyalty to Queen and Country – not to a Prime Minister (or President) and I most certainly wouldn’t want to see that changed. I’m far more willing to trust Charles with that responsibilty, than a Blair or Corbyn type character…
May 6, 2023
Agricola and IanT. Agree with both your comments. Our military and the monarchy are closely linked and coming from a family with military links its an important part of my/our history.
May 6, 2023
So does income tax. General elections.
Why do we need a symbolic head? Whatâs wrong with an actual, elected head of government?
Itâs a liability and an obstacle to change.
May 6, 2023
Mike,
Income tax is infinitely variable, as are the results of elections. Not much stability there.
A symbolic head of state is much better tban a political retread.
Government and the electorate effect change, the monarch can do little. As to liability I would want to see the accounts. Military, police, and security are paid for, coronation or not. Beyond this there are costs, but lets see how much the UKs bottom line has befitted over the fortnight encompassing the coronation.
May 7, 2023
And you regard a monarchy that throughout history has chopped off the queensâ heads, has meandered from England to Scotland, France, Holland, Germany and most of the rest of Europe (including Russia), has plotted against the people to take the land etc. as stable?
Why do we need a symbolic head of state? If we do why does it involve palaces, castles, millions of acres, unimaginable wealth, deference, blokes in red jackets opening doors etc. Many countries seem to do without a symbolic head of state. The USA and France to name but two.
May 8, 2023
If a majority of people want to keep a monarchy, fine with me. But would it be possible to get a scaled down one as in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Belgium or the Netherlands where there is a hereditary monarchy but where the monarchâs authority is derived from the people, from their Parliament, from the constitution, not from something as fuzzy as a celestial entity using one very particular type of religion (one originally essentially created to satisfy the libido of a 16th century king)?
BTW the royal heads of these countries do not appear to require a coronation extravaganza as the one we got this week-end.
It is likely that Buckingham Palace plus a few other palaces, once open to the public, would bring the same type of money that the âdefenders of the monarchyâ give as one justification to keep a royal family.
May 6, 2023
Lets have a contest then. King Charles vs Corbyn vs Starmer vs Davey vs Sunak vs May vs Cameron vs Lynch (Mick) vs Harry Windsor.
Over 18s eligible, British passport holders only, residents for over 5 years.
Could be an interesting result.
May 6, 2023
MT – NONE of the above.
May 7, 2023
When the King was the Head of State with executive powers, there was a contest. Any of the aethlings (those eligible for the throne) could challenge at any time. Because there was a test the best became King. Iâm afraid it is the immovable line of succession that produces Kings who would be defeated in the first round.
May 6, 2023
Mike. We’ve got too much government now. We don’t need more. I can’t imagine who would be elected but it still wouldn’t please everyone.
May 6, 2023
Agricola. Hear, hear.
May 6, 2023
The local election results confirm your comments yesterday. It was a good kicking for the Government. But will they take any notice?
Let’s enjoy today & all it means for the Uk & showcases us abroad.
May 6, 2023
Love or hate it he is still our king and I think the woman behind him will be much closer to the people and will introduce much influence for the common good.
May 6, 2023
Like it or not the Coronation is a Christian Religious Ceremony of the Church of England which has now had a touch of WOKE added (by the Church of England) in an attempt not to offend anyone and be more inclusive. Leaders of other faiths(Christian and non-Christian) attended the last Coronation. Never a problem in the past to be heighted and point out the differences which so much of this WOKE culture does. The other faiths did not see a problem and just accepted that is how you go about crowning the Queen or King and very happy to attend the crowning.
The King can only be the defender of the Church of England faith, but much more importantly the defender of religious freedom and free speech.
God save the King
May 6, 2023
His Majesty and his annointer Wokey Welby have chickened out of the request for his subjects to swear allegiance to his Majesty. Herr Schwab and his new age advisors will be disappointed in their champion. Never mind Klaus, Richi is still on board.
May 6, 2023
I wish KCIII well, and if his recent State visit to Germany is any judge, he will be an asset to the country.
That said, personally I think the Coronation is happening far to soon, with indecent haste, the nation (and perhaps Royal Family themselves) are still mourning the loss of the late Queen and matriarch, which might explain the lack of bunting. Questions should be asked why now, why this weekend, given the Coronation was a late addition to the calendar… By comparison, there was 18 months between the accession of QE2 and her Coronation, with a similar period between the death of KGV and his (eventual) successors Coronation, even had there not been the abdication.
Did someone in Whitehall buy up a job-lot of limited self-life bank holidays or something, four State holidays within 31 days! Employers, employees and the self-employed are not happy, more so when Sept to late Dec is devoid of them!
May 6, 2023
The Government was expecting very bad local election results. I think that explains the choice of dates: a good way to bury their bad news.
May 6, 2023
@ jerry “I wish KCIII well, and if his recent State visit to Germany is any judge, he will be an asset to the country.” – +1
One knew with Queen Elizabeth that once was receiving the best that it was possible give and the Germany visit showed the King had not neglected his time as her understudy.
May 6, 2023
“one” rather than “once”. !
May 6, 2023
But shouldn’t this be about the British way of life?
Why does he support foreign religions over Christianity – He seems more interested in promoting multi-culturism in place of Christianity – Just where do his loyalties lie?
Let’s discuss his pledge – once he makes it – let’s see how loyal he is to British people.
May 6, 2023
@Bryan Harris; For pity sake, non more blind than those who choose not to see!
Indeed it is about the British way of life, that’s why representatives of many religions were present at the Coronation (all pledging THEIR allegiance to KCIII), and some are more British than and pre-date the creation of the CofE, the latter being based on the teachings of Rome! Many other “foreign religions”, as you call them, are national religions of the old British Empire, stop being so Little Englander, “the British way of life” was exported worldwide and embraced many religions, and via the Commonwealth, Dominion and our protectorate etc, the King still has subjects worldwide…
May 7, 2023
You’re blind to the realities Jerry.
Charles the Woke is a big supporter of every group that intends to destroy what we know of as Britain.
His politics could mean the end of the monarchy
May 7, 2023
@Bryan Harris; Your comment suggests whoever had attended the Coronation, in whatever capacity, even if to your exacting personal expectations, you would have found fault somewhere – your comments above are not really about a few non CofE religions being present, playing very minor roles, on the side lines; no your total and utter disdain of KCIII is all to obvious. As for politics, even if KCIII were to make personal political comment, so what, our elected parliament makes our laws, not the monarchy, and has done since the time James II was deposed.
It is people such as yourself, and Lynn elsewhere, by making ill-advised comments who are far more likely to bring about the de-establishment of the CofE, if not an end to the monarchy, not those who understand the need to reach out to, include, followers of other religions and followers of non.
May 7, 2023
Jerry, you’re making things up that I didn’t say, while missing the whole point.
As King, Charles is supposed to look after our interests, and that means sometimes refusing to sign off laws made by politicians – but that is never going to happen because he supports everything bad the government is doing – He is not going to be any kind of check against the extremes of this government, because he believes in depopulation, and every other woke manifestation the government are imposing on us.
May 8, 2023
@Bryan Harris; “As King, Charles is supposed to look after our interests, and that means sometimes refusing to sign off laws made by politicians”
Nonsense on stilts, the UK has a constitutional monarchy, if the monarch decided our laws what is the point of the House of Commons?!
May 6, 2023
It is all of the grace of God, hammered out of history for the sake of the Gospel, and fulfilment of Christ’s imminent second coming to rule on earth. But unlike in the days of the Fifth Monarchists in Cromwell’s time, it will not be by the sword, but ‘by grace through faith’.
As declared by the Apostle Peter at the first Pentecost: “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4.12).
May 6, 2023
How can you dop youre hat to a 11th century Mafia that stole Englands Land?, most of the big estates are still owned by the likes of Lord Norfolk, if there are reparations to pay, sell the estates from under the thieves.
May 6, 2023
I had a chat with Charles at the wedding of Earl Spencer to the daughter of a friend of mine ( Victoria Lockwood ) . He introduced me to his then wife Diana who was very polite but obviously not at all at ease . Our royalty tradition is something of respect – long may it continue ; William and Kate do a fine job .
May 6, 2023
@Bert+Young “…Diana who was very polite but obviously not at all at ease” – oh dear, but perhaps she recognized you?
May 6, 2023
Diana ? Who ?
May 6, 2023
The King has just sworn to ârule us according to our laws and customsâ enshrined in law as this Oath is. There is now some sort of black pop group in white gyrating in the Abby. 10.33am.
We have turned off.
May 6, 2023
Pop group rubbish, it was a fine example of choral harmony.
May 7, 2023
And Anglican? The King had just sworn on the Bible to uphold the Anglican Church. Seconds later its âcustomsâ overturned.
Go to an Evangelical Church if you like drums and hysteria, tongues and beating of breasts.
May 7, 2023
@Lynn Atkinson; The only person having fits of hysteria, whilst (figuratively) wagging tongues, beating drums and breasts is you – as you would understand had you bothered to watch and listen to, as @agricola said, a fine example of (Baptist?) choral harmony.
What next Lynn, objections to women clergy, women & girls in church choirs perhaps, after all the Anglican church traditionally only had men and young boys, âcustomsâ overturned and all that…
May 6, 2023
Lynn, your ill judged comment says far more about you that it dose anything else. đ„
May 6, 2023
Sky News – What on earth made you think that the shrill Kay Burley was a suitable person to commentate the Coronation. For goodness sake – get rid of her!
May 6, 2023
I watched the Coronation on TV at a friend’s house.
I am an atheist and am bound to say I found the church service mostly absolutely ludicrous even by the standards of religions. For instance they interceded for the King to live for ever which he clearly won’t – surely, as John McEnroe would say, ‘you cannot be serious!’ Sunak recited from the Christian Bible about the one supreme Christian God being the Creator of everything which surely he as a practising Hindu doesn’t believe, just as I as an atheist (for different reasons) don’t believe it.
As the Church of England isn’t doing better than this in the modern age perhaps British monarchs should follow the example of Napoleon Bonaparte and crown themselves! Or otherwise what about a secular ceremony as University graduation ceremonies are? Anyhow especially as most British people no longer consider themselves to be Anglican Christians in the 2021 Census, we should disestablish the Church of England which would prevent future coronations from being shows suitable for satirical comedy.
May 6, 2023
“May the King live for ever!” are Georgian words, inspired by the verses 28-30 in I Kings, I. Handel did not write them to please a 21st century atheist, but the middle aged 18th century George II. They must have emboldened him because he was our last King to lead his troops into battle. People were more sophisticated in those days and could cope with poetry, allusion, and hyperbole. “May the King live for ever!” is also an allusion to eternal life after death, Handel being a devout Christian. The evocation of Solomon being anointed is to illustrate the mediaeval belief that our Kings were descended from King David. They are still to this day, all anointed sovereigns. This is quite a contrast with, say, the Dutch King, who is just a paid civil servant.
May 6, 2023
Sorry, vv 38-40.
May 6, 2023
Thank you for that explanation Rose.
May 7, 2023
Wonderful to hear that people were ‘more sophisticated’ in Georgian times when relatively few people could read, formal education was not widespread, England had just two Universities and belief in a Christian God was almost universal in Britain. However originally far from Kings declaring themselves to be ‘a Protestant’ coronations were Catholic ceremonies held in Latin. No wonder it was thought appropriate to say the Sun and Moon bow down to the King which was yet another piece of absurd nonsense at yesterday’s Coronation. The truth is the Church and monarchy did many woke updates but they kept ancient metaphysical nonsense yesterday.
As we ought not to live in a part-reconstruction of the often primitive medieval world, it is time to make Coronations and all governance secular.
May 6, 2023
We are fortunate enough to be able to expect our Royal events to be carried out very well, but apart from the weather, today’s Coronation was as near perfect as it could have been.
Interestingly, the press is making a great deal of fuss over the performance of Penny Mordaunt which was both memorable for the way she carried out her duties so immaculately and for her stylish and very appropriate outfit.
Penny was a favourite of Conservative members at the last leadership election and no doubt her popularity with them will increase after today. She surely now has to be seen as the leading candidate to replace Sunak ?
May 7, 2023
God help us if that happened. She thinks the Russians are behind Andrew Bridgen and men can be women if they think they are.
May 6, 2023
I watched the Coronation and none of my fears came true! It was a wonderful Coronation. Christian, very British and even the changes made were done traditionally! A success!
May 6, 2023
“the monarch promises to serve us all and to stay above political controversy.”
‘Stay above’? He has been intervening in politics for decades.
Like many of the well-heeled, patronisingly self-entitled elite, the King is indifferent to the political nature of his globalist beliefs and preoccupations. And his keenness on being liked by the world’s politicians makes him too incapable of defending our national interests: demonstrated by the enthusiasm with which he helped Sunak to throw Northern Ireland out of the UK and under the wheels of the EU juggernaut.
May 6, 2023
Hereditary monarchy for me is quite simply the best way to choose a head of state. After all, every country has to have a head of state. It preserves continuity and stability as people have pointed out. The monarch has been trained since birth. There is no risk of corruption. It also separates the pomp from the power which acts as a brake on dictatorship. We are extremely fortunate to be spared what the French and Americans have to go through in their increasing horrible Presidential elections. And does anyone really think what emerges at the end of the process is worth all the unpleasantness?
Occasionally we hit a wrong’un but it is the institution which is important, not the individual who soon passes.
May 6, 2023
Another strong advantage of an hereditary monarchy is the bond with the armed services. Also the other arms of the state which owe their allegiance to the Crown, not the politicians. It must be a lot easier taking an oath of loyalty to the King than to the PM.
May 6, 2023
Well said Rose. Clever and respectful lady.
May 7, 2023
Iâm afraid since the RF have become ardent Charity Workers there is plenty of scope to âbuyâ your way in. Look at the celebrities invited. They have all paid their way by âdonating generously to Charlesâ charitiesâ.
Time the Monarch was subject to full taxation. Then they would deploy their âinfluenceâ to reduce taxes.
May 6, 2023
We need an independent foreign policy, not one identical to that of the Biden administration, who are the enemies of the United States and its recent allies, now plotted against.
May 6, 2023
I see the police were able to use their powers to make sure the King was not interrupted on his journey to work by protesters.
Could they do the same for us?
May 6, 2023
It seems to have been considered more dangerous to invite Dukes than republicans – including separatists Sinn Fein, the SNP, and Welsh Labour. Some of these excluded families have been supporting the monarchy for a thousand years. But Blair who struck the first blows at abolishing the monarchy was there.
May 6, 2023
We do not need a monarchy especially a WEF NWO fanatic who cares little about the people whatever is said . We do not need 650 MPs and we do not need 770 Lords. By the way this little event has cost the YOU 125 million. Wake up people.
May 7, 2023
âWe do not need 650 MPs and we do not need 829 Lords (as of 17/02/2021)â.
So how do you propose to change that? By what would you replace them?
May 7, 2023
300 of each maybe
May 7, 2023
Home Office â 06 May 2023
Illegal Immigrants â 135
Boats â 3
âŠvisiting for the coronation and staying !
May 9, 2023
I hope that all these commonwealth countries wanting to be republics arenât allowed to remain in the commonwealth. Isnât that how the EU treats the UK now?
The UK typically grants everything though i.e. Ireland can walk all over the UK, so nothing would surprise me.