COP 29 needs to answer some tough questions

COP 29 tells us global warming is happening. They tell us too much global warming will happen if the world does not drastically reduce its manmade CO 2 output urgently.

Successive COP meetings have been telling us this all century. Most world governments say they agree. So COP 29 needs to ask

Why has world manmade CO 2 just hit a new high after all these years of COP policies?

Why does COP ignore China, accounting for around one third of world CO 2 which has been increasing its output all this century, and now says it is peaking? Surely China needs to cut quickly.

What is COP 29 ‘s message to India and Russia, large CO 2 producers who have been increasing their output?

What is COP 29’s view of US voters who have just given a big mandate to the Republicans running on a ticket of Drill baby, drill?

Why does COP 29 go forward on national accounting which means you can cut your manmade CO 2 nationally by closing fossil fuel activities and importing instead? This often increases world CO 2 so how does that help?

Why should a smaller CO 2 emitter nation make sacrifices to cut its CO 2 when the large emitters are not bothering?

When will COP and governments tackle the big issue of lack of consumer enthusiasm for net zero products?

What is the latest COP 29 estimate of the total world cost of decarbonisation?

 

 

16 Comments

  1. David Peddy
    November 15, 2024

    …and in the face of known historial , quite drastic temperature changes ?

    The very cold winters of 1947 and 1962/3
    The floods of 1952
    The heatwaves of 1975 and ’76

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    1. Lifelogic
      November 15, 2024

      CO2 levels too have been far higher in the past over ten times as high, even during ice ages.

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    2. PeteB
      November 15, 2024

      It’s more than that David. The elites at COP don’t really care about CO2 levels.

      COP is all about making the populations of the rich nations poorer whilst making a few select people in all nations much richer.

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    3. Ian Wraggg
      November 15, 2024

      These questions will never be answered because we are talking about a religion. The whole scam has been given this status by the WEF and UN as a way to transfer wealth away from the old industrial countries to the new kids on the block.
      We have Milibrain incharge of our power grid and he is being allowed, nay encouraged to take us back to before the industrial revolution.
      Everyone knows this will not make one iota of difference to the climate and as the Americans have shown, they’ve had enough of the deceit.
      Many countries didn’t attend the jamboree and Argentina recalled its delegation Milleu calling it out as a scam.
      We need some direct action to stop this nonesense and let the farmers be the beginning.

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  2. Mark B
    November 15, 2024

    Good morning.

    Some very good questions which, will of course, go unanswered.

    What worries me most is the language being used by the government. It seems to be doubling down on its commitment to Nut Zero stating that it intends to be the ‘leader’. That is all very fine if being the leader:

    a) which results in something that is clearly positive.
    b) when there is more than one in the race.

    We are, or so it seems, to be in a race of just one with every one else both cheering us on and laughing at us (or our government to be precise) as we go by. What the idiots in charge do not seem to know is, that not only there is no prize, but the finishline is some distance past a cliff edge.

    We are saving nothing but losing everything. The only thing left will be pointless government jobs. A universal income (Dole money) and Communism in all but name.

    Have these people not been paying attention to world events for the past 30 years ? The Soviet Union has collapsed and China has abandoned the Communist economic model and embraced Capitalism.

    We must be mad ?

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    1. Wanderer
      November 15, 2024

      @Mark B +1.
      What’s so very disappointing is that the official opposition can’t be trusted to oppose all this. On the other hand, if they cling on to their climate change beliefs it might mean they are less of a challenge to Reform at the next election.

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    2. Lifelogic
      November 15, 2024

      Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad, Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat (literally: Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first deprives of reason). Then puts them in charge of energy, climate and senior posts in Starmer’s appalling Government. Then laughs at them all as they try to control the climate using “renewables”, boat people arrivals by “smashing the gangs” and to create growth by a budget of vast tax, more employment laws and huge regulatory increases.

      At least King Canute was demonstrating to his flattering courtiers that he has no control of the tide.

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  3. David Andrews
    November 15, 2024

    All good questions to which COP 29 supporters will struggle to find good answers because it is driven by dodgy data.

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    1. Lifelogic
      November 15, 2024

      They do not even attempt to answer them nor have the Con-Socialists and nor have this appalling government or the deluded zealot and PPE graduate Miliband, Lord Debden or that chap with some kind of law degree Chris Stark.

      A bit more CO2 plant food is a net good and anyway the things pushed to reduce CO2 do not even do so to any significance and anyway most of the world, very sensibly, is not and will not even try to reduce CO2.

      Thank goodness we will soon have a climate realist in the White House – assuming he survives for two more months. Hopefully he will fun R&D by sensible climate realist scientists for a change and cut of funding for the deluded alarmists. Also it seems he will expose the true figure on the Covid Vaccine harms and he likes peace and free speech.

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      1. Lifelogic
        November 15, 2024

        RFK Jr chosen as Donald Trump’s health secretary – as president-elect says he will do ‘unbelievable things’ see also the recent Dr John Campbell videos one on excess deaths around the worlds and the temporal correlation with the Covid Vaccines release.

        So will this Government continue to hide the stats on death broken down by age, vaccines status, dates I assume so. Why might they want to hide this unless the stats or damning for the Covid Vaccines? They will come out in the end. It is worldwide after all. We already know of the appalling & huge vaccine batch safety variations.

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  4. Lifelogic
    November 15, 2024

    What is the latest COP 29 estimate of the total world cost of decarbonisation?

    Indeed and what is this government’s estimate. In reality decarbonisation is not even possible and will never happen worldwide. Even a doubling of CO2 would not cause any significant or harmful warming. Much of the warming they are recording is actually urban heat island effects and the positioning of thermometers. Nothing to do with CO2 or so called Green House Gasses.

    So when are the Tories going to admit that Major, Cameron, May, Boris, Sunak and Clair Coutinho have been talking drivel for 30 years? Even Thatcher fell for it at one point. A mad group think anti-science, hugely exaggerated religion. Useful as they can blame events life fire and floods on it rather than the real causes and use it as an excuse for ever more taxation and government power.

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  5. Lifelogic
    November 15, 2024

    So the Leeds bus burning riots are described by the police as a “Romanian Vigil”.

    Even the delightful Allison Pearson visited by the Police on Remembrance Day over an alleged hate crime. See the Planet Normal podcast. Two Tier policing and Justice is alive and well and accelerating with this government and the appalling anti-free speech Two Tier Kier.

    They surely do this to discourage many others and suppress free speech.

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    1. Wanderer
      November 15, 2024

      LL +1. I don’t think any peacetime government has been this authoritarian in living memory.

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  6. agricola
    November 15, 2024

    We can only have opinions based on a disemblation of fact, having battled our way through a mass of propaganda. We are at the point of deciding whether the earth is flat or an oblate spheroid.

    Most half educated people can agree that climate changes, it has done for millions of years, from the Earths very existence in fact. We can look back through ice cores for a very long time and appreciate that our atmosphere has varied a lot in its composition, none of which halted evolution.

    Industrialisation has no doubt produced a share of what is noxious, but we have logically concluded that we must deal with it. We largely have via engineering and science. A process, if allowed and incentivised, will continue. The process of deindustrialisation, and the blatant dishonesty of moving it to another part of the World so we can claim ” It is not us mate” , is just a scam. A scam that allows us to blame others, China for instance, for expanding industry to supply us. A total hypocracy.

    If we genuinely wished to produce clean reliable energy we have the means at our disposal. We can even clean up its production using fossil fuel if we so choose. We can reduce our production of waste, or at least move heavily in the direction of harmless natural degradable product if we choose. I could go on, but I leave it to you to work it out.

    COP, of whatever number, is a scam to move wealth from those nations that create it to those who want a free ride. It is not even as good a scam as slavery reparations, which at least relate to historical fact. The bit that amazes me is the number who fall for it, many theoretically educated, while accepting that a fair few do so to line their own pockets. On the positive side we now have Donald Trump who vowes like St George to slay this malignant dragon, with the support of the vast majority of his fellow citizens. I wish him every success and hope that his success is airbourne, in the general direction from which we get most weather.

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  7. Wanderer
    November 15, 2024

    A very good post today, answering your questions exposes what a hoax (to use President elect Trump’s description) is being played.

    The UK “leaders” are a laughing stock, but unfortunately there is still a significant number of citizens that don’t realise it’s a monumental scam. Our MSM is largely to blame for that.

    If Trump can can destroy the climate change narrative in the anglosphere he will do us a great favour. Come our next election things may look very different, but what a dreadful shame we will have to watch our own self-destruction in the meantime.

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  8. Lifelogic
    November 15, 2024

    Oh dear the Guardian is leaving Twitter/X could they leave the internet too please as they always seem to come up first in so many searches with their endless begging letters. They must be spending a fortune with Google.

    The Bristol Suspension Bridge to and North Wales Police also quit X claiming it was “no longer consistent” with its values – values such as suppressing free speech and fair comment perhaps about topics like two tier policing and police incompetence I assume.

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