- Importing oil and gas to burn increases world CO 2. Importing LNG is particularly stupid, given the amount of fossil fuel consumed to convert the gas to liquid, to keep it cold, to transport it by diesel ship and to convert it back again. The climate zealots are undermining their own purpose.
- Importing oil and gas means we have to pay high taxes to foreign countries and companies, instead of the UK Treasury collecting large sums from UK production.
- Importing oil and gas exports the often well paid jobs in the oil and gas industry. We lose the jobs here, they gain the jobs abroad to make up our lost supply.
- Importing oil and gas makes us more dependent on the goodwill of foreigners. Oil and gas trades are often disrupted by world politics, with blocks to Suez, Panama and other key shipping routes, with diversions of energy under sanctions regimes, and with vulnerability to tariffs.
- Cancelling our own oil and gas industry writes off all the investment made in the gas network offshore and onshore well before the end of its useful life
- With our own oil and gas supplies we can keep or expand our petrochemical industry. We are currently seeing its collapse thanks to sky high UK energy prices and need to import feedstock.
- The oil and gas industry if kept at home stimulates and creates important oil and gas service industries which we lose when we rely on foreign product.
- Changing policy would be well received by NATO which is very worried about the security implications of leading NATO members needing to depend on unreliable foreign imports.
- Seeking a mass transfer from gas heating to electric requires a massive investment in additional power generation and a huge expansion of grid capacity and storage. This is bound to increase costs and prices.
- Keeping the lights on and everything working on cold windless days and evenings will be much more difficult without gas generators on stand by.
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September 2, 2025
Just to add to your excellent list of logic. An energy policy that has no reliable constant base load supply has to have duplicated, and ergo expensive back up. If it comes via interconnectors it is strategically highly dangerous.
Current energy policy, if you dare call it that, is a product of the insane. I would add that you have still to explain why our home grown energy , even correcting all the stupidities you list, remains at 3 to 4 times more expensive than that of the USA. Until you do so, your list remains a series of bleats. Your party remains even less convincing. They issue the words but lack the conviction. Almost all know this and remain unconvinced.
Reply I have often explained why our energy is so dear. This is just part of what needs to be done to make it cheaper.
September 2, 2025
Difference in cost of gas. We so often hear that the price of gas is a ‘world market price’. Talk to an energy trader and he’ll tell you it’s mostly a regional market. IF you’re stupid enough to bring product from one region to another, because you haven’t arranged long term, fixed price contracts, then it becomes very expensive.
The answer to why not drill and extract oil and gas from our own economic zones is:
1 Dogma (Millibroke insanity)
2 Dogma (Millibean insanity)
3…… you get the point.
September 2, 2025
UK / Europe has quite a few interconnectors, so to some extent (if not all) electricity wholesales prices are going to be set to the marginal rate within that wider network subject to it’s capacity, before adding on all other costs
September 2, 2025
An excellent list indeed but all of this was known and obvious to any decent engineer well before this mad war on the gas of life started.
“Keeping the lights on and everything working on cold windless days and evenings will be much more difficult without gas generators on stand by.”
Impossible especially if we all switch to EV cars & heat pumps which will cause huge extra electrical demand on the few very cold winter days. This might well be 10+ times summer demand, you get virtually zero solar on short winter days and when windless you will need gas, coal, nuclear or oil back up for this demand. You will also need vastly more wind capacity to cope even if there is some wind if you want the wind to cover this demand. So a vast extra investment in grid capacity, wind capacity and fossil fuel generating back up capacity but all this vast capital expenditure largely wasted for most of the year!
Totally insanity but perhaps Lord Debden history (Gummer) Chris Stark (law), Emma Pinchbeck (Classics) and Ed Miliband (PPE)… are not able to do these simple and obvious basic sums!
Also this agenda will not even save CO2 anyway as running hear-pumps driven by fossil fuel generation does not and even wind power need load of fossil fuel to manufacture, install connect and maintain them. This even worse when the high winter demand means load being build and wasted for much of the year.
But as we know a tiny bit warmer (and it is tiny) and a bit more plant food CO2 are both good things on balance anyway!
September 2, 2025
Darren Jones (another Lawyer) appointed to be Chief Secretary to the Prime Minister Two Tier. Ideal for the job as
he can tell blatant lies with a straight face such as:-
“The majority of people in these boats are babies, children and women” Darron Jones!
Perhaps he should practice these other blatant lies in the mirror:- We do not run two tier justice, paying billions to give away the Chagos Islands was sensible, Lucy Connolly’s sentence was totally reasonable and she was not a political prisoner, We are smashing the gangs, the budget was one for growth, we will not tax working people, we did not increase NI, the Covid Vaccines were safe and effective, socialism works, Angela Rayner is not a grade one hypocrite, Net Zero is a sensible policy that will lower energy bills by £300, abolition of non Doms. and vat on school fees will raise net tax…
September 2, 2025
On Angela Rayner the appalling Osborne gave us the appalling GAAR (the general anti avoidance regulations) where HMRC can just argue that something was done for artificial tax saving reasons and demand the money anyway. So did Rayner get her tax planning pre-approved by HMRC by her advisors?
A government web site is still claiming walking and cycling produce no CO2 per mile either direct or indirect. I assume this was written by a Classics, PPE or Law graduate! So clearly we need a car with muscles and a stomach fuelled on steak, chips and a bottle of claret! That too would produce no CO2 I assume.
In reality 5 people walking or cycling is far less efficient than them taking a car for them in co2 terms plus they may need a hot shower and new clothes on arrival!
September 2, 2025
Kemi today – “Net Zero by 2050 is not possible” – indeed and this was perfectly clearly when Theresa May’s Tories and yourself Kemi nodded it through Parliament without even any sensible cost/benefit analysis. Theresa May now made Baroness May under you Kemi too.
So Kemi we know it is not possible, but also it is not remotely a desirable target anyway for any date. Indeed it is engineering, economic, health and defensive insanity. You claim to be an engineer Kemi, so why not says this? If you are unable to see this then take some advice from some of the many sensible and honest people like Prof. Happer.
September 2, 2025
If we started fracking part of the licencing agreement could be exclusive supply to the UK gas grid at say 75% of the open market price before any excess is exported. Norway owns the fuel it extracts and the revenue goes to the government. Operators would be willing to agree because there would still be handsome profits to be made.
Whatever this shower of excrement think, we are going to change energy policy PDQ when the lights start to dim.
Let’s just hope the expertise is still available.
September 2, 2025
R to R.
With the greatest respect SJR , even I can see that what Labour are doing to UK energy is only going to make it more expensive.
My questions are, to spell them out:-
1. What does it cost in the USA to get oil and gas from beneath the land and sea.
2. Who does it belong to once extracted.
3. What is the cost of distributing it.
4. What is the cost of processing it.
5 Where , on whom, and at what level are taxes applied.
Transpose the same questions upon the UK extraction of oil and gas and we might begin to see an explanation of why UK oil and gas cost 3 to 4 times the prices enjoyed in the USA. You have never , as far as I can recall, spelt out the differences, in which lies the key to my question.
September 2, 2025
The difference is that when we pumped our own energy the price in the UsA and U.K. was very similar.
Since we stopped pumping our own oil and gas and replaced producing energy with the double whammy of duplicate systems (wind + backup) or imports, plus extra tax, carbon capture and windfall taxes, our price has reached 4 x the US price.
September 2, 2025
Well their end costs of electrical energy per KWH are 1/3 to 1/4 of our. So circa 70% of our bills are surely tax, net zero or market rigging. Coal on international markets is cheap, cheaply and easily moved, on demand & fairly cheaply converted into electricity. Far better than Drax chopping down forests to burn and pretending it saves CO2.
A shame idiotic government ministers blew so many coal generators up. Gas from UK fracking more preferable however!
September 2, 2025
@agricola – yes, that’s the word ‘insane’. What competent person would dream up punishment prices for energy that our competition don’t have. What competent person would dream cancelling essential production before a reliable sustainable alternative has been made available. What competent person would dream of sending as much hard earned UK taxpayer money to prop foreign regimes so as to cause destruction in their own back-yard.
That’s the state of play arrived at from the UK Parliament and its Leadership, UK destruction and personal ego before creating a tomorrow
September 2, 2025
Morning Sir John,
Will the government listen though? I doubt it, they never listened to similar arguments regarding the other natural resource we have under our feet, namely coal.
Every day we are bombarded by MSM with propaganda about climate change and carbon the devil gas. BBC, Sky, C4 and even ITV have now started the constant climate brainwashing. I wonder who they are trying to convince… Us or themselves?
September 2, 2025
It is indeed incessant, especially from the dire BBC – are they paid for this deluded alarmist propaganda or is it pro-bomo?
September 2, 2025
See the Sceptic podcast “Cancelled climate dissenter Professor Norman Fenton speaks out”.
September 2, 2025
This Government won’t change course until the blackouts start and the people revolt – by then it will be too late. You can’t import millions of extra people, all consuming more and more energy and expect our infrastructure to cope with it.
September 2, 2025
Within months then.
September 2, 2025
@Cliff.. Wokingham. – they hear, they see, they understand. However, their Political Religion tells them these are the accolades that demonstrate they are winning, they are creating the aspired too Socialist State. The them and us, of Socialist Lords and their Slaves. When Torsten Bell, our next Chancellor says the minimum wage now produced is a good thing and in the right direction, he is also spouting his socialist writings. The State awarding a wage is the State paying the minimum and maximum that people are entitled too – they are one of the same. As long as he and the Politburo get more.
The bit they miss, is the UK is one tiny speck in a great big competitive world – the world is moving on, moving on fast and those achieving are not constrained by personal political dogma
September 2, 2025
Coal fired power stations are not as efficient as gas, so use the coal in the living room stove – a cheery companion on those cold winter days.
Old pallets cost nothing though, just a bit of effort to break them up.
September 2, 2025
Burning wood at home warms you three times:
1. When chopping it up
2. When burning it
3. When clearing out the fireplace!
September 2, 2025
That all these good reasons need to be stated when they should go without saying is indicative of what mad times we now live through.
Wrecker Miliband will be quite content of course to see no oil and gas flow but Wrecker Reeves’s need for tax revenue suggests otherwise. It will be interesting to see which wins out as this floundering government struggles on.
September 2, 2025
The various laws passed – Net Zero and the Climate Change Act already mean the Judges can already decided the UK’s energy policies. Just as they now bankrupt Birmingham and many businesses by deciding what is work of equal value under Harriet Harman’s insane equality Act!
September 2, 2025
We don’t get the gas and oil from our offshore fields, it goes onto the market to get the best price.
We will always import oil because we need different types of refined oil for different purposes .
Reply Not true. We could burn more gas down a pipe from the North Sea, replacing imported LNG
September 2, 2025
Your comment about gas is correct, but you don’t comment on the the oil because you know it goes onto the market . So why didn’t the Conservatives increase the gas supply down the pipe line?
September 2, 2025
@Stephen Reay – In an open world we would be selling it to our own markets first. Then again we have chosen to not join that world
September 2, 2025
Our oil is extremely heavy and pure, and high quality, so we sell the excess and buy in cheaper light oil for burning. An overall win.
September 2, 2025
Even if some is exported it creates jobs and incomes and tax receipts! The gas used locally has lower transport costs too and also saves CO2.
September 2, 2025
‘ The gas used locally has lower transport costs too and also saves CO2.’
– No-one buys this argument.
Why not just say we need more drilling for the sake of the economy especially as our economy so salty at moment and most fair-minded people would say: ‘fair enough! Let’s drill more then!’
Reply The argument is true and important
September 2, 2025
The argument is minimal. People want meat. The meat is that our economy is in a paltry state and we need to drill to boost our economy!
September 2, 2025
You should stop telling us what we want, and listen to us. You had a great deal to learn before any Conservative selection committee would even shortlist you.
September 2, 2025
‘You had a great deal to learn before any Conservative selection committee would even shortlist you.’ – I wouldn’t even consider myself to be shortlisted until having achieved my goals in business. Without this business experience and success, including as an entrepreneur, I’d have nothing of value to add and / would have nothing that would make me stand out from the crowd. And like I said, there are at least a million people more qualified than me to go into Conservative politics. But where are these people? They are not queuing up. But I’d like to. Why not? Better to try and have a go instead of ‘what if’ later on in life. Best.
September 2, 2025
It comes into the UK by Pipeline so we get the tax when it is sold to whoever, fail to bring it into the Uk and we fail to get the tax when it is sold on to whoever, thus we lose both ways:
Security of supply, and tax revenue which has to be made up by taxing something else, perhaps your house !
The Madness of simple mind thinking about net Zero, without all that it means in reality, and the consequences there on in .
September 2, 2025
@Berkshire Alan – where SR is right we have Norwegian Rigs(Norge Taxes) staffed with Norwegian Citizens(Norge Taxes) pumping oil in the UK back to Norway for them to sell. Not saying the Norwegians are wrong, but it is an illustration of the UK’s Parliaments big give-away – they never think things through.
A bit like the Chinese windmills, erected and operated in the UK by the Danish Government, the energy is subsidised to the hilt by the UK Consumer although they are denied access and the taxes paid in other domains
September 2, 2025
Since it’s so obvious Sir John, it does make you wonder why the Not-a-Conservative-Party under Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak was so keen on implementing the economy-wrecking nonsense of Net Zero?
And even now, when Badenough “says” the Party will exploit our traditional energy assets, they are still planning to ban gas boilers, petrol cars and continue with the rest of the Net Zero nonsense.
Why would that be? I guess because we’re not allowed to compete with “our friends” in the EU and thanks to the semi-detached “deal” which Johnson implemented, Sunak strengthened and Two-Tier turning into Associate Mwembership, we are signed up to implement the EU’s environmental policies.
Reply No plans to ban gas boilers. I and a few others did persuade last government to delay the ban on petrol cars. This government brought it forward from 2035 to 2030
September 2, 2025
@Donna – agreed. Then not forgetting that those in Government are in Collective Responsibility Cabinets and the Badenough team had been in that position under the last regime they had the responsibility and refused before. Is it going to change? All we got was a 70 year high on Tax and Borrowing, 14 years of promises and a cancellation of our and our children’s tomorrow.
Sir Johns points are all situations owned and could have been altered, changed, cancelled at anytime by the Government of the day and its Parliament. But, no the reinforced the damage and continue to do so
September 2, 2025
BUT – you don’t need to ban Gas Sir John! You can do it via the back door, as is happening here in Wokingham.
The new housing estate to the South is not going have any gas mains provided – none at all. So whether the new residents like it (or not) they will be forced to use some form of electrical home heating. I do hope for their sake that the developers build these houses to an extremely high level (of insulation). Done well, they might be practical but done to a lesser standard, these homes could be very expensive to keep warm.
September 2, 2025
My 14 year old apartment has good insulation and underfloor heating (benefit of not having wall space occupied by radiators is very pleasant!). I have an induction hob which is very nearly as good as gas and very efficient. It does not cost much to heat and run at all.
As I face south a solar panel would have been very interesting as a long term investment!
September 2, 2025
I have underfloor heating on both floors. It was installed 14 years ago. It’s water heated by gas to 44 degrees. The heat dissipates at 6 ft.
If yours is electric then mine is about 700% more efficient than yours.
September 2, 2025
Sir John the five year banning petrol/diesel cars delay, introduced by Sunak was pointless fudging of the market. The market can and will decide when a purchase option has run its course and is no longer worth having. Government making these arbitrary boundaries are silly and simply political window dressing. That is why Labour immediately went back to the original timeline, political theatre.
September 2, 2025
Electric cars are now getting cheaper and cheaper.
The ban on petrol cars is annoying, I agree, but not such a biggy.
And there will still be big demand for oil and gas.
The UK needs to figure out how to makes as much money as possible from Green Tech and related tech. The oil and gas companies realise this too. And trying to get on board. But not easy. As new growth area. But they will get there if they work hard towards it.
September 2, 2025
Chinese “Electric cars are now getting cheaper and cheaper”
And you can kiss our car industry goodbye….
September 2, 2025
Yeap ….thats the plan, and we’re about to make 5 warships for Norway …..and that steel to make those ships will be coming from India or China
September 2, 2025
The UK can only compete by manufacturing something like its own quality and aesthetically-pleasing German-like cars. How we get there is another matter.
All I was saying though is that electric cars are becoming more and more viable. Not what I want necessarily. Just how the market has panned out.
Reply Sales of EV s still very poor to individuals. Latest report says battery range much less than expected in hot weather.
September 2, 2025
‘German-like cars’ 🤮
Do you know nothing of Britain?
September 2, 2025
@Lynn Atkinson
‘‘German-like cars’ 🤮
Do you know nothing of Britain?’
– Yes. German-like cars as opposed to British Leyland. Or British cars that don’t appeal to mass consumers (whilst also being quality and aesthetically-pleasing) such as the following German brands: Volkswagen, Audi, BMW, Mercedes etc.
We can produce cars just as good as the Germans but we’ve lagged behind the Germans in a HUGE, here, way over the last few decades.
September 2, 2025
It isn’t just the cost of EV’s which put people off them. It’s the sheer impracticality for the vast majority of drivers, including me. I would not vote for any Party which was proposing to ban petrol driven cars.
September 2, 2025
Electric (and in particular, hybrid) cars are becoming more viable in the cities though.
(Cities are slower to drive around in, not so far to drive, and electric make less noise, doesn’t pollute the streets).
September 2, 2025
Yes and the odd 3 storied Airport car park burned to the ground every no and then is no ‘biggie’. 🤪
September 2, 2025
Reply to reply: Direct quote ….. “The government is to scrap the 2035 ban on gas boilers in its new house building standards. The previous Conservative government had laid plans to phase out gas heating for homes by banning the sale of new gas boilers by 2035, so people replacing their gas boilers after that date would instead have to buy a heat pump or other environmentally friendly way of heating homes.”
Reply Yes, then I and a few others persuaded him to drop the ban!
September 2, 2025
The list of 10 reasons for self-sufficiency are painfully sensible, logical and simple to grasp, even a child could understand them.
So what is going on?
Who is on the make?
Is this just purely misguided green ideology or a deliberate act of harm upon this nation and its people.
I think the latter, and I think Suella Braverman called it when she made a comment along the lines of this nation in the future being one where we can do nothing for ourselves (not verbatim)
Isn’t that what some of this is about, as with refusal to train our own in all the basic necessities of a functioning nation.
A deliberate decline in education where green issues, woke social issues are invasive in every topic and DEI ensuring that not always those that should rise to the top do so.
The 10 points can be applied to a whole raft of issues and skills shortages, which point in the direction Braverman was looking.
September 2, 2025
indeed even a child, but not it seems Classics, PPE, Law or Geography (Theresa MAY) Graduates.
September 2, 2025
Or indeed the 90% plus of MPs who nodded or voted these insane acts through!
September 2, 2025
Children think independently, have not yet been subject to Blair’s indoctrination scheme – which is why he wanted everyone at university, to transform them into Stepford Wives.
September 2, 2025
Don’t forget the fracking as well, we need to turn the clocks back a couple of decades and get back to were we where , not being dependent on foreign oil and gas, and as for all these climate zealots including Mr I can’t eat a bacon butty properly then go find a island with no coal or oil or gas and live in a cave along with all these other flip flop wearing tree huggers eating raw meat and berries and not try to preach to those of us who haven’t been brainwashed by the climate activists
September 2, 2025
Morning Sir John
Surely the government has to cancel the UK’s Energy Profits Levey as well? This is actively encouraging UK Oil and Gas companies to invest abroad and let their UK assets stagnate. See Harbour Energy’s latest earnings report indicating an effect tax on UK earnings of OVER 100%. Clearly insane. This was a virtue signalling policy from our last government which has had an enormous detrimental affect on that industry.
regards
September 2, 2025
Reading this list, and asking the rhetorical question to the hypothetical greenie “can you refute a single word of this?”, it is difficult to avoid concluding that the green movement (aka religion) is absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet, as their mantra has it. By contrast, it is everything to do with taking developed Western democracies back in time to an era where quality of life for the average pleb was low, for the average elitist high, deliberately so.
September 2, 2025
That’s exactly what it is: UN policy of reducing living standards for “the peasants” in the Western Industrialised nations.
September 2, 2025
Yeah! but, if we do all you say Sir JR we’ll continue to contribute 4PPM co2 to the Earths atmosphere and we’ll all die…..apparently.
September 2, 2025
Sir John
There is only ‘one’ real discussion, the UK needs money lots of it to fund what ever the future throws at it. Having the resources for a future and having a Parliament banning their use is commercial and the suicide of a Nation and a people. Having a Parliament and a Leadership from May, through Johnson, Sunak/Hunt and now Starmer/Reeves all wanting destruction before finding viable, resilient alternatives speaks volumes on the direction our political class has decided on – a malicious vendetta against a Country and its People.
Every single one as members of the UK.plc board, even without having to think about it of the could have looked around and seen the direction all our competitors are taking. Reflected on that and wanted to match or beat them. But no, they chose malicious punitive punishment, that the people of other nations don’t have to bear. Everyone of the had the right we empowered in them with to change what damage others had done everyone of the has refused.
Now they are trying to conjuror up alternative narratives as to why the UK is haemorrhage money. Simples banned UK resource production to import the same, banned Industry to import the same. Ensure by punitive taxes, what else do you call them, that UK Energy is now close on up to 4 times the price of our competitors, so even if we wanted to earn we cant.
September 2, 2025
It is not rocket science level economics is it? I wonder why the Energy Minister Miliband finds it so hard to grasp basic logic and sensible energy policy implementation?
Could it be he knows full well maintaining our own energy extraction industries is the most sensible and positive thing to do, therefore his Marxist ideology i.e. expand capitalism, forces his to do the very opposite.
September 2, 2025
Sorry mistyped Marxist ideology. it should read collapse not expand. I find it hard putting myself into the extreme left wing mindset and having to use their thought processes.
September 2, 2025
Yes, very compelling arguments, Sir John. But for use in debate where exactly? In Parliament? Of course not. In the Cabinet room? Of course not. In the mainstream media? Of course not. In pubs and clubs? Careful, the barmen or barmaids might not like what you say, and report you to the police for making them ‘uncomfortable’ and ‘not in a safe space’.
September 2, 2025
Phew, then 4 policeman armed with machine guns turn up to arrest … Father Ted! His advice on defending yourself from an attacker was hateful, the attacker is NEVER hateful of course. He’s just k*lling you with love!
September 2, 2025
All very good points, Sir John, which they all know of course. The reason for the far left devising the false CAGW and its Net Zero “solution” is to cause de-industrialisation, impoverishment and national insecurity as socialism depends upon making and keeping people poor. Unfortunately even the Conservative Party fell for this nonsense that anthropogenic emissions of CO2 are causing global warming (0.16 degrees C per decade according to UAH satellite data) because CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Well, so is water vapour which is between 10 and 100 times more prevalent in the atmosphere than CO2 and a more powerful greenhouse gas as it absorbs the planet’s emitted IR radiation over a wider range of frequencies.than CO2. So if the IPCC’s radiative warming theory was valid and CO2 can cause runaway heating through an endless water vapour feedback mechanism then this would apply even more so to water vapour itself as the bigger greenhouse gas. Such a feedback has never happened and it’s not going to happen now. Happer & Wijngaarden have shown using the IPCC’s own radiative theory that there is already sufficient CO2 in the atmosphere to cause almost all the warming feasible so adding more CO2 makes little difference. An effect known as saturation which even the Royal Society admit exists. This effect also applies to water vapour.
September 2, 2025
The hydrological cycle in the atmosphere (evaporation, condensation, precipitation) has an average lifetime of 5-10 days depending on latitude. The carbon cycle, depending on whether one considers the photosynthesis, decomposition of organic matter, anthropogenic emission (fast processes) or/and weathering of rocks, net ocean uptake, sedimentary formation of calcite & limestone (slow processes) is thought to have a lifetime varying between a few hours and millenia. Not exactly the same time constants, specially regarding a potential accumulation of an active greenhouse gas over decades.
And yes, water vapour (as a non-linear molecule) is a greenhouse gas that, at constant temperatures, contribute about half of the global greenhouse effect whereas the other greenhouse gases (also non-linear molecules) would contribute 20-22 percent of it. But water vapour is also involved in the positive feedback with temperature (about +7% increase in specific humidity per +1 degree increase in temperature, the Clausius-Clapeyron relationship) as already shown from the mid-60s by S.Manabe (who got the 2021 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on atmospheric physics, and oops Richard Lindzen from the same institute never got that, which might explain why poor Dick might now enlighten with his presence the glorious bunch of had-beens at the GWPF) (NB: N/A to the distinguished trustees).
And BTW, it is not IPCC’s radiative theory but the accumulated work from Tyndall, Dalton, Kirchhoff (19th c), Planck, Einstein, Bohr (‘10s), Manabe, Goody, Sasamori (‘60s), and all the subsequent users and developers of that theory within meteorological forecast and climate models in various American, European and Asian countries.
You might want to update your references: UAH satellite data (Spencer, Christy: drroyspencer.com ‘UAH v6.1 Global temperature) shows 1 degree increase from 1979 to 2024, which looks a bit more like +0.22 C/decade than 0.16 C/decade (your previous contributions were quoting 0.14 C/decade.)
You might also want to realise that weather forecast models have successfully been using radiation parametrisations (based on this radiative theory) now for 50+ years.
Finally The Royal Society has never admitted a saturation effect, simply because what H&W claimed from their view from the top-of-the-atmosphere, unfortunately for them, does not apply at the surface (royalsociety.org ‘Climate change: evidence and causes’, 2025). Maybe that’s why they have not produced comparisons between their results and observations at the surface.
Similarly Shula &Ott would be even less able to explain the warming of polar latitudes with their model without back radiation at the surface.
September 3, 2025
hefner
When we achieve Net Zero here in the UK, by how much will our efforts reduce global temperatures?
September 2, 2025
Your ten points are correct; an idiot could understand them, so why can’t our Government?
If you begin from a false premise, that Global Warming / Cooling is not a natural event that occurs constantly, then you make stupid decisions.
Cheap, reliable energy is the basis for a prosperous modern economy, so why are Labour so determined to force up the price in the UK? To build two systems instead of one, to buy solar panels and windmills from China?
Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first send mad! It seems we have a mad Government leading to poverty, misery and squeezing the joy out of life!
September 2, 2025
Your points 1 to 10 make a lot of sense.
Why have cheap oil/gas under the North sea and pay for expensive oil/gas from abroad.
Why lose the UK jobs which extract the oil/gas and give those jobs to other countries so they can take oil/gas in the North Sea and sell it back to us at inflated prices.
It would be different if we had something in the UK to replace it with at a cheaper price, but we don’t, and if we did the time to convert our utility infrastructure from oil/gas to electric or solar would take decades.
Meanwhile businesses go bust, and jobs are lost from key industries like steel, and car manufacturing,all in the vain attempt of achieving net zero by 2035 or is it 2050 and the UK looking good across the world but all we’re really doing is running our country into the ground and looking very stupid in the meantime.
When India,China,USA and Russia start leading by example then the UK and other smaller countries should follow, but not before.
As Trump says, and now Kemi Badenoch; Get drilling!!
September 2, 2025
‘Why have cheap oil/gas under the North sea and pay for expensive oil/gas from abroad’ – no that is NOT what drilling is about from a right-wing Conservative view. To talk about drilling for cheaper oil is fantasy.
‘Why lose the UK jobs’ – exactly, that and increased tax receipts is the reason for drilling!
September 2, 2025
I’m all for more drilling of North Sea Oil but I just think we need to say it’s not about more energy for the UK (most of it will get sold abroad) but because our economy, that is in a paltry state, needs the revenue! Voters will be much more than sympathetic to that than any other argument!
September 2, 2025
You think voters are swayed by arguments? Perhaps you could say what ‘arguments’ put the present lot in power.
September 2, 2025
Then who are your arguments aimed at ?! And why?
September 3, 2025
I asked you first.
September 2, 2025
Much of our oil is very pure and heavy, think lubrication oil.
So it’s too good to burn.
So we sell it for X times the price of thin, cheap oil suitable to burn.
Comprehendo?
Now try this.
I live 55 degrees north. That’s the same latitude as Moscow. Britain is dark and cold for much of the year. We NEED ENERGY TO SURVIVE.
Voters are quite keen on surviving.
September 3, 2025
‘We NEED ENERGY TO SURVIVE’
– Yes, you’re right. Been trying to make the same argument myself. Best.
September 2, 2025
Increased drilling North Sea won’t bring down energy prices but it will lead to more jobs and tax receipts which is great especially as our economy so paltry at moment.
Building gas storage would bring down energy prices to a degree / increase energy supply a bit more long-term.
Other things we can do. But this is one of the more obvious ones.
September 2, 2025
We store our oil under the North Sea. We get it when we need it. We don’t need oil storage.
What do you think will down energy prices, because oil prices have been droping significantly recently as I’m sure you are aware.
What is a ‘paltry economy’?
What other things can you do?
September 2, 2025
I said GAS – not oil. If you can’t even read what I write and then be rude about it then I just don’t understand what planet you’re on.
September 5, 2025
Same for gas!
I’m on a planet where no Ge4man car can compare with a Jaguar, Land Rover, Mini, MG etc etc etc.
In my whole life I have never owned a German car because they are not anywhere near the world beating British motor industry – until Labour nationalised Leyland it was a GREAT brand.
September 2, 2025
You have said this many times and I absolutely agree. You need to make sense to Keir Starmer and the government and flag up your advice
Also Reform is becoming increasingly important and it’s important they take note of your advice
I think Reform may well be the next government and it would be ideal if your ideas are on board with them
September 2, 2025
2Tier Kier has effectively gelded his Chancellor. Understandable as a logical step, but to replace her with those who have been advising her is bizaare indeed. Who is going to present the budget and with what level of credability. It onlt remains to speculate on what he might do with his Energy Minister.
Child care was being discussed on GBNews this morning. My suggested contribution is to encourage business enterprises to set up creches adjacent the place of work, making the capital and running costs totally tax deductable. It would go a long way to solving the cost and availabilitg of child care. It might also reduce the age at which families decide to reproduce. If provided free to a parent, exclude it from benefits in kind. Discuss.
September 2, 2025
Parliament has a creche which a newspaper claims costs £1,400 per month – it’s loss-making, of course.
September 2, 2025
One thing we know for sure is that the Chancellor has not been gelded.
September 2, 2025
Representatives of the high energy industries have met and discussed their imminent closure and replacement by importing these primary products. Without these, other dependent industries will also have to close. Everyone seems to accept this obvious fact and that replacement by less efficient foreign industry and longer transport will create more CO2 except Messrs Milliband and Starmer along with the Uniparty clones. If we don’t get rid of them soon, there won’t be much left by the time of the next election.
September 2, 2025
All good points.
When you were an MP did you make them to the Tory governments who started the collapse process?
Reply Yes of course. I helped get Rishi to change policy and allow exploration and development, only for Labour to ban them.
September 2, 2025
Arguement number 1, Net-zero is a con
September 2, 2025
Our banks tanked 5% last week, and today they’re tanking another 2.5% …..something is wrong in the markets
September 2, 2025
No the market is working just fine. Something wrong in banking.
September 2, 2025
The Chancellor’s possible windfall tax on banks?
September 5, 2025
So that’s the market working just fine Hefner.
September 2, 2025
I am told that over 6000 farming businesses have ceased trading in the last year. How long is this insanity going to continue. Starmer cannot hack it, so in deference to the UK and its continued existence , please go.
September 2, 2025
In the 1960s, simple O level Economics and Geography made sense why Britain was successful up to WW2 relative to poorer countries based on global trading and maximising its own limited resources like Coal but importing oil.
When oil was discovered in the North Sea we expected quite rightly for the country to flourish but instead IMHO it has been squandered financing the welfare state culture and abused by heavy taxation and being treated as a political football and almost killed off by virtue signalling Net Zero.
Total madness that our ancestors would never have considered e.g.
the 1950s Mini was frugal design like it’s predecessors, bicycles and horses pulling carts were still in use and slow electric milk floats.
The Balance of payments and trade was set for a sea change.
Well that sadly never materialised, so I’m pleased Sir John has explained once again the simple logic cutting through the present expensive and complicated importing arrangements akin to standing on your head and going nowhere fast.
September 3, 2025
National strikes and power cuts incoming.
September 5, 2025
Sooner the better. We need a short sharp resolution.