Crimes of violence

 

 

There are too many crimes of violence. Knife, bomb and gun attacks against people on the streets, shopping, at entertainments or on public transport naturally alarm many people.

Much of this  is also now being seen by the public through the lens of the failure of governments over all too many years to take the Pakistani rape gangs seriously and to follow up for the children and young women who suffered in many towns and cities.  That has led to distrust of the various authorities including Councils and the Home Office who should have  pursued the allegations properly.

The current Home Secretary needs to get better at handling these tragedies. Yesterday she did not tell us anything about the man  being arrested for the woundings of many people even though he was  apprehended at the scene of the crime and is presumably being charged with attempted murder.Her  long silence meant people could speculate about who carried out the atrocity and why, in ways which could make false allegations about groups who were not to blame.

The Home Secretary needs to keep the public informed. She needs to stress how justice will be applied impartially. She needs to work on policies more likely to deter people from random and wanton violence.

 

87 Comments

  1. Cliff.. Wokingham.
    November 3, 2025

    Morning Sir John,
    It is depressing to see what our country has become. Lefty commentators tell us that it’s not just our nation that has the problems, but it is most of the west including Germany, Sweden and France. This gives me no comfort because I am only really interested in England.
    Back in the 1950s and 60s, murder and violent crimes were fairly rare and made front age headlines in the national papers now, in 2025, often local murders are not even mentioned and certainly don’t make front page headlines.
    Government needs to clamp down on all crime, especially crimes of violence and if necessary, to build more prison places and to deport foreign criminals.

    1. Cheshire Girl
      November 3, 2025

      Cliff:

      I am 86, and I lived in London(East Ham) for a while in the early 60s. I commuted into Central London every day for work, taking the Tube, and also late at night for leisure, traveling on my own. I was cautious, but never once did I experience any violence, or threats. When I tell the younger generation this, they dont believe me.

      It is tragic that we all have to be alert at all times now, and as you say, violence and anti social behavior is rife. We are silenced by some Politicians, and called unpleasant names if we protest. lI am fearful for the younger generations, if something is not done about this (which seems unlikely at present)

      1. Cliff.. Wokingham.
        November 3, 2025

        CG
        I moved out of East London in 1968. I was born at Queen Mary’s Hospital Stratford.
        I would not like to live there now but, like you, I used to travel on the Oxo Cube and the bus into work at The Royal London and back home to Plaistow. I saw no violence on the transport network at any time of day back then.
        I fear for my grandchildren and the kind of future they may have.

    2. Lifelogic
      November 3, 2025

      Indeed we have very few serious deterrents to crime and thus it increases. Also also have had policies that generally keep even dangerous mental health patients in the community. They will be fine so long as they take their medications seems to be approach taken. This started with evolution from the 1980s government report by Sir Roy Griffiths under Blair. How many conviction have we seen then the history of the man (almost invariable a man) comes out and almost everyone who had dealt with then even from school age onwards has know they were mad and posed a serious risk but nothing is ever done (other than perhaps some paper work) until a final murder or other v. serious offence is committed, then finally it all come out. You cannot undo murders or crimes after the event. You need to deter and prevent then when ever possible.

      David Starkey “Blair was worse than two word wars” video sums him up very well.

      1. JP
        November 3, 2025

        Yes I agree Blair was the most irresponsible and damaging PM in recent history.

        1. Ian B
          November 3, 2025

          @JP +1

    3. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      The criminal undertaking these mindless mass attacks are seldom native Britons. However there is another factor which governments refuse to recognize: cannabis is often a factor in America where they suffer mass shootings.
      Cannabis, like the CV19 shot is not consistent in elements and some batches are far more dangerous than others. Therefore all cannabis is dangerous both for the user and the country.

      1. Peter
        November 3, 2025

        It reminds me of another train knife murder.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48967618

      2. Lifelogic
        November 3, 2025

        I agree, I used to employ (several years back) excellent computer programmer, he was always smoking dope when not working (or playing computer games) but eventually, very sadly he went totally off the rails – well before he was thirty. I think it has become stronger and stronger.

        Often suicide bombing etc. involve drugs too I understand. Peter Hitchens is always saying this too.

        1. Lynn Atkinson
          November 3, 2025

          We have accepted decadence in all it’s forms. So alien to the majority British character. Tragic.

    4. IanT
      November 3, 2025

      I heard on GBNews last night, that the Home Office stopped making criminal checks on incomers (“legal” ones) in 2020. Apparently there were people concerned that this was discriminatory, although I suspect financial considerations played a larger part (and possibly a lack of a organisational competance to do the job). So it seems we are allowing in both legal and illegal migrants without any knowledge at all of their criminal history or (most likley) their mental health. If we abandon all entry checks, then maybe we shouldn’t be suprised if the kind the people we start coming across changes for the worse.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 3, 2025

        ‘there were people concerned that this was discriminatory’.
        I would be very concerned if it wasn’t.
        The officials weighing up the knowledge about the applicant ought to have ultimate yea or nay.
        If genuine racial prejudice was exhibited that can be addressed and possibly result in sacking.

    5. Peter Parsons
      November 3, 2025

      The murder rate now is at about the same level as it was in the 1970s and has about halved from its peak in the early 2000s (source: official ONS figures).

      We don’t live in a more violent society than back then, just one with much broader and wider communication tools due to the emergence of the internet.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 3, 2025

        But can anyone say the percentage of people (usually younger men) carrying guns or knives is similar, or as seems obvious it is much higher than it has ever been.?

      2. Martin in Bristol
        November 3, 2025

        Compared to the 1970s there is a much improved rapid paramedic intervention which saves many lives from a large number of murderous attacks.
        The huge improvement in intensive care when the injured person arrives in A and E also saves many lives.
        I also wonder how many are now charged with the lesser charge of manslaughter so they are now not in the number of murderr statistics.

      3. Lynn Atkinson
        November 3, 2025

        In the 1970s and 80s we were under IRA attack.

        1. Peter Parsons
          November 3, 2025

          How many deaths in that time period were attributable to the actions of the IRA?

    6. Ian B
      November 3, 2025

      @Cliff.. Wokingham. +1 – but back then the right to defend one’s self wasn’t as restricted as it is today.

      The two-tier justice system as administered in the UK, it’s not jargon any more every day it becomes a provable fact. The downplaying of laws that affect the lawmakers, is adding to their personal credibility and purpose. It is also creating by default a lax approach to believe any one is accountable personally for any thing any more.

      Now the victim has become the perpetrator, and mental health the escape clause for everyone else.

  2. Paul Freedman
    November 3, 2025

    There is a recent exponential increase in murders and rapes. I can identify 12 extreme cases in the last 5 weeks. I deeply feel for the victims. They are either dead or will live with the pain of what they have been put through for years. It’s not going to stop as long as the root causes exist. Root causes:
    1) We have tens of thousands of illegal migrants walking amongst us, (some? ed) are hardened criminals and have come from places where life is cheap and killing is an everyday occurrence. This needs to stop immediately.
    2) The woke Left have done their best to demean and lie about White British people in the eyes of others in society. This has made us targets and victims.
    3) There are too many weak and unsuitable politicians. Too many have been afraid of activist groups. I’m sure it takes much strength to stand up to them but without that strength they will be incapable of keeping the British people safe from these activists.
    4) We need more police and they need to be allowed to do their jobs and eveyone else needs to step out the way. They need to be able to act on their risk analysis and if they need to stop and search for knives and drugs then so be it.
    5) I thought we were meant to have a new tough and effective Home Secretary. So far progress could have been made yet it hasn’t.

    1. Ian B
      November 3, 2025

      @Paul Freedman +1

      I would alter part of this “There are too many weak and unsuitable politicians. Too many have been afraid of activist groups.” changed to “have become the voice of activist groups” especially those aligned with their personal political cause, putting that ahead of duty to their electorate and the country.

    2. Peter Parsons
      November 3, 2025

      Given that the per capita murder rate is about half what it was 20 years ago, on what data are you basing your claim of an “exponential increase”?

      1. Paul Freedman
        November 3, 2025

        I never said it was just murder. I said rape and murder. I also said the period is the last 5 weeks. These crimes will therefore not be available in the official data releases yet. However given the exponential increase of reporting of rapes and murders over the last 5 weeks it follows that they will.
        In my opinion almost all of these atrocious crimes were preventable (reference my suggestions above). I hope you agree.

      2. Lynn Atkinson
        November 3, 2025

        Ah, per capita! What about actual numbers?

        1. Peter Parsons
          November 3, 2025

          Per capita is an actual number.

      3. Sam
        November 3, 2025

        Will your “per capita” statistic help relatives who have had a loved one murdered come to terms with their loss Peter?

        1. Peter Parsons
          November 3, 2025

          No, but it will stop scaremongering and falsehoods based on inaccurate assertions backed up by zero data.

          1. dixie
            November 4, 2025

            You haven’t offered any data just opinion.

      4. Paul Freedman
        November 4, 2025

        Here’s your data Peter: 2 weeks ago a white woman was gang raped on Brighton beach by foreign rapists; 4 nights ago a young white woman was raped in a park in Haywards Heath; last week an illegal migrant was found guilty of stabbing a mixed race man in a queue at a bank in Derby; last week a white man was stabbed and murdered by an illegal migrant as he walked his dog and he also stabbed another white man and 14 year old white boy; 1 week ago an illegal migrant psycopath was found guilty of stabbing a white hotel worker called Rhiannon 23 times with a screwdriver, two weeks ago 3 white girls escaped an attempted kidnap by an illegal migrant, 5 weeks ago the illegal migrant Kebatu was found guilty of asking a white schoolgirl if she would like to make ‘Jamaican babies’ and touched her up, 4 weeks ago a foreign born national attempted to mass murder Jews in a synagogue. He achieved 2 murders. I have ommitted their nationalities.

  3. Stred
    November 3, 2025

    The horrific stabbing of 10 passengers was first reported as an attack by two black British men, one was a Carribean type. They did not find any evidence that this was a terrorist incident. Many would have asked themselves how such a conclusion could have been made etc ed. But later it emerged that one of those arrested had been freed and had nothing to do with the crime. No doubt this wrongful arrest will result in a large claim against the taxpayer in the future. But even if it was not religion related and the attacker knifed 10 people ( for some other reason ed)how is this not included terror?

  4. Stred
    November 3, 2025

    My better half has to travel on the London underground a lot and walk through high crime areas in London. I bought her a small plastic toy air pistol which fires 6 little rubber bullets, but she refused to take it. It would offer some protection if fired in the face of an attacker and I wonder whether those at risk should all get one. Walking sticks with a pointed end are also useful.

    Reply If it looks like a real gun it could cause more harm and lead to more violent responses.

    1. Ian B
      November 3, 2025

      @Reply – elsewhere I believe it was an MP today that has suggested that the laws of selling & carrying ‘pepper spray’ should be amended. Although it could be used as an offensive device, I would suggest the deterrent option would out-way the grievous, long term debilitating harm knives do.

      As suggested any gun can now be seen as a gun first, toy second.

      Generally speaking in most parts of the World that allow ‘guns’ also have the lowest reported ‘home invasions’

    2. Lifelogic
      November 3, 2025

      Indeed not a good plan. Stick with loud alarms and pepper sprays perhaps? And hope that we eventually get some deterrent policing and decent mental health care (rather than the reverse) and justice from a half sensible government!

    3. MWB
      November 3, 2025

      We should certainly be allowed to buy and carry pepper sprays. These will disable an attacker for long enough to escape an attack, but never kill anyone, yet our so called governments will not allow it. Pepper sprays are legal and widely available in mainland countries – France, Germany etc., etc.
      I’m not too concerned with what so called governments will allow, because with their open borders policies, they have forfeited any right to dictate what the people should do to protect themselves.

    4. Mickey Taking
      November 3, 2025

      Rape alarm, pepper spray?

  5. Roy Grainger
    November 3, 2025

    One lesson from Southport was that the authorities should release information on attackers far more speedily to stop speculation. When they then released information on the Liverpool car attacker within a couple of hours it seems they had learned their lesson (indeed we even knew his name despite past warnings about “prejudicing a trial”) but this time we again had 10+ hours of total silence. Regarding this two-tier approach one could speculate about what was different about these three cases which meant only one of them apparently merited speedy press briefings.

  6. Sakara Gold
    November 3, 2025

    Yet again, the issue of the grooming/rape gangs is being covered up. The new Home Secretary is looking the other way. The latest inquiry has been delayed because of a failure to find a Chair acceptable to everybody. Why is this particular scandal still being covered up?

    It might be because Sir Kier Starmer was head of the Crown Prosecution Service when this was all going on. However, that is not why so many legal professionals have declined to get involved

    The answer is that right across the country, but particularly in towns in the north-east and north-west, the girls have named dozens of police officers as being actively involved in the abuse.

    At least 1,400 children were abused by men of Pakistani heritage in Rotherham alone between 1997 and 2013 – as the landmark report from Prof Alexis Jay found in 2014. The police refered to them as “prostitutes”

    Until the issue of the alleged involvement of police officers is addressed, nobody will want to serve on the inquiry.

  7. Peter
    November 3, 2025

    It’s a bit late for the Home Secretary, or other politicians. to start keeping the public informed.

    The response to the attack followed a familiar pattern. Little was revealed despite promises to do so. There were the usual platitudes about ‘thoughts and prayers’ and a request not to speculate.

    The knife man was photographed outside the train. He could easily have been shot and killed as would happen in other countries. Instead our police relied on often ineffective tasers.

    ( para left out ed)

    Police tell us it was not terrorism. That is not convincing. A man running through a train stabbing random strangers sounds like terrorism to me. Police may not be able to link him to familiar groups but that does not change anything.

    I await the familiar, but unconvincing claim, that it was the result of mental health issues.

  8. Berkshire Alan.
    November 3, 2025

    Afraid it is the so called human rights type fanatics who governments have pandered to over the years, who have stopped proper policing and sentencing.
    Our population has grown in 60 years by realistically about 50%, it would therefore seem sensible that even if crime remained at a fixed percentage of the population, and did not rise in percentage terms, then we would need a corresponding increase in policemen, court time, magistrates, judges, probation officers, and prisons. That has not happened.
    60 years ago when I was a teenager we had police patrolling the streets on foot and push bikes (with only a truncheon as a friend), we also had police supporting them on noddy bikes (almost silent motor bikes for our younger readers) with a two way radio back to base. Mobile phones had not been invented so they had a whistle to call for assistance.
    A Police telephone box was available at strategic locations, and their police cars also had a very basic short wave radio.
    Then a policeman was respected, could stop you at will, question you, and if thought necessary search you.
    Justice was swift for minor crimes, and you could appear in court within hours.
    Both sides now have mobile phones, hand/lap top communication, computers, patrol cars, policemen now wear stab vests, carry tasers and host of other equipment looking like storm troopers.
    Video recording cameras appear almost everywhere, and we are policed and fined by computers for many minor offences on such evidence, with the first thing you know about it being a letter in the post.
    The Police and the Law are not now respected, because ordinary people are being fined for trivial infractions and offences like parking, box junction and bus lane infractions, 2 mph over a speed limit, etc etc.
    Thus respect for the Law and Police is at an all time low.
    The Law has become confused, complicated, and expensive, with massive delays.

    1. Berkshire Alan.
      November 3, 2025

      Last year I spent a day out on patrol with a Police team as an official observer, and a very interesting day it was.
      The early morning spent with the first response team, then a couple of hours back at the Station understanding procedure, priority, and allocation of response, then an hour going through the details of a serious case which was successfully prosecuted. Out on general patrol in the early afternoon, with calls scheduled to interview a couple of known very young drug users (with parents present)
      Involved in two Blue light calls, an arrest (a knife was involved) and saw all the procedures through to them being charged at the local police Station, and at the same time I had a tour of the custody suite and cells.
      At all times the police personnel I was involved with were dedicated, courteous, knowledgeable, and keen to operate in a safe and sensible manner for all concerned.
      The two blue light calls were about people who had a record of “mental problems/broken homes/families”
      I asked was this normal, and was advised that about 50% of their time related to such calls, and the failure of so called, Care in the Community.
      My own feelings, the Police in general are trying to do as good a job as they can, but the system is against them. The Country has got into such a mess, very often they are just wasting their time due to failures in many other areas.

  9. Rod Evans
    November 3, 2025

    It is clear as yet another tragedy unfolds, the Home Secretary and the government officials are afraid of the truth.
    There first priority is not to openly report what has happened, their first thought is how can we manage this event to avoid speaking clearly and truthfully. The first priority is silence then limited revelation while allowing time to take the level of anger down that the public has been feeling for yet another atrocity by a none native member of our community.
    The message of government is more important than the truth that message is diversity is our strength. The truth is, uncontrolled diversity is our weakness.

  10. Old Albion
    November 3, 2025

    If you fill a country with people from cultures that do not match the host culture and tell them multiculturism is wonderful. Tell them assimilation is not required. You invite problems. Disparate groups living separate lives. All with agendas that clash, creating hate and division.
    An island of Strangers…..

    Reply I take this as a general observation, not a comment on recent events.

    1. Old Albion
      November 3, 2025

      It’s a comment on the deterioration of this country over the last thirty or forty years.

    2. Mickey Taking
      November 3, 2025

      I take it as a certain conviction over many years and getting worse.

  11. Dave Andrews
    November 3, 2025

    In the interest of a fair trial, more public information might be seen as prejudicial to a jury, so perhaps not good to say too much.
    My mind goes to the lack of integration in this country, with people of foreign descent herded into ghettos, where they feel disconnected with British society. This is the problem that needs to be tackled, rather than the perennial talk about getting tough on crime.

    1. Mark
      November 4, 2025

      People herd themselves into ghettos. For example there is an area of Kingston and Surbiton that is known as Little Korea. Expat communities tend to cluster within reach of schools, such as the German school in Ham, the French Lycée in Kensington and the American school near Cobham. State schools are not immune from being largely taken over by one particular community. Religious buildings also act as community magnets. Capture of a council housing department by employees predominantly from one community will see their friends awarded council homes to the exclusion of others.

  12. Mickey Taking
    November 3, 2025

    The death penalty is illegal in England and was abolished for murder in 1965, and for all other crimes following suit in 1998. This means that no one can be sentenced to death or executed in the UK, which is reinforced by international human rights treaties signed by the UK government. People convicted of murder are subject to mandatory life sentences.
    Was this step the precursor to increase in serious violent crime involving various weapons?

    1. Dave Andrews
      November 3, 2025

      Probably didn’t make much difference, just made the prison bill more expensive. How reliable is the justice system to get a murder conviction right?
      We still have the death penalty. Jean Charles de Menezes was given summary execution and he was innocent.

      1. Lifelogic
        November 3, 2025

        Reliable? Lucy Letby absurdly twice refuse an appeal by six judges, Guilford 4, Birmingham six, Maguire 7, the Jill Dando chap – our legal system if fairly dire!

      2. Lynn Atkinson
        November 3, 2025

        The Government will only tolerate the killing of the innocent.
        The dead have no human rights.

      3. Narrow Shoulders
        November 4, 2025

        State sanctioned murder should be not countenanced. However if life means life then we don’t need to worry about the conditions that the convict is kept in for the duration. Dungeons could make a welcome return.

  13. Michael Saxton
    November 3, 2025

    It is a failure of National leadership from Prime Minister down. Yes the Home Secretary should have quickly and positively responded by informing the public, condemning violence and praising the bravery of those at the scene. The Times was quick to inform us the assailant was a British black man but that’s all. Yet again the authorities appear reluctant to properly advise the public when dreadful acts of violence like this occur. Policing needs to get much more robust as these events and crime on our streets and public places appear to be out of control and this includes our railway network.

  14. IanT
    November 3, 2025

    (some violent offences stem from using cannabis ed) Peter Hitchens has been preaching the dangers of cannabis for many years now and has been largely ignored. Maybe it’s time to start acknowledging there is a problem with cannabis before more people get hurt.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 3, 2025

      Indeed but I suspect it cannot really be stopped very easily!

    2. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      All drugs. It is imperative, for a start, that ALL parliamentary candidates get a medical certificate confirming that they have NEVER taken drugs. The drug damaged brains of the recently powerful politicians have done much damage.

  15. Jim
    November 3, 2025

    A psychiatrist colleague once advised that ‘all we need is a nice warm place with high walls and a stout door to put these people’. We once had some places like this but as with most government run establishments they were unsatisfactory. Then we got rid of even them and replaced them with err nothing. As ye shall sow so ye shall reap.

    1. Rod Evans
      November 3, 2025

      Jim
      The policy of closing all of the mental hospitals was replaced with nothing, but they called it ‘care in the community’
      What that translated into was ‘ we could not care less about the community and we can’t be bothered to care for those who should not be in the community either’.
      It is a left wing thing, do nothing of any value but call it something to quell the natives….

    2. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      Yes there are many in need of (lunatic) asylums.

  16. Bill B.
    November 3, 2025

    No, we just need to hand in all our knives, and the country will be safe.): Crack down on knives, I say.

    1. MBJ
      November 3, 2025

      The trouble Bill is that if we are threatened with knives,we need something counter for protection and knives are the easiest to carry around.
      I would prefer a long baseball bat but lt isn’t something I could fit in my pocket!

    2. Mickey Taking
      November 3, 2025

      Random stop and search needs to be reintroduced, and especially within a mile of secondary schools, and schools should have an airport type metal detector to walk through.

    3. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      … and picks, and hammers, and shovels, and chains, and bicycle spokes (they slip between the vertebrae very effectively), etc etc
      …or should we just get rid of those who hate the native British?

  17. Harry MacMillon
    November 3, 2025

    Successive governments have created this treacherous situation where people are now afraid to walk too far from home or travel too far on public transport, not just with a failed justice system that favours all too often the offender but also with their anti-British immigration policies backed up by inane international treaties HMG had no business signing.

    Repairing all of this will not be done with more police, it will take an enormous moral shift followed by truly effective and honest government – How likely is that?

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      Select your own candidate, then it can be done in just a few years.

  18. Ian B
    November 3, 2025

    Sir John

    It is called two tier justice, taken to another lever by TwoTierKier. The rule of law is not applied if it is deemed to offend or apply to those paid and empowered to create and uphold Law.

    In part some of it is the Neglect of our own Legislators to believe in others, less friendly to the rule of Law and how it should be applied in ways that enhance our freedoms and protection, and seen somehow by them to be superior to them(our Legislators) with out over-site or a mandate to dictate to us all.

    Why do we have a Parliament at all? It appear to be a waste of time and money as it is unable to fulfil its basic function

    1. Mickey Taking
      November 3, 2025

      I have made reference to the dysfunctional Westminster quite often, any change remains undetected.
      Abandon hope (for democracy) all ye who enter here.

  19. Bloke
    November 3, 2025

    The current government is heavily at fault on so many matters and causes even worse.

  20. Kenneth
    November 3, 2025

    The government needs to urgently find out what the root cause is.

    If we wind back to (let’s say) to the 1950’s I doubt if there was any record in those times of criminal activity similar to what happened yesterday and has been happening too many times recently.

    What has changed? What is the difference between the 1950s and now?

    The government needs to answer that question.

    Whatever has gone wrong has to be corrected.

    The government needs to do whatever it takes to bring us back to the kind of law-abiding society we were I those days.

    It needs to do this urgently while the population is still governable. If it does not, things will fall apart quickly.

    1. Ian B
      November 3, 2025

      @Kenneth – a Parliament and its Government in those days made UK Laws. Treated every one as equal under the Law including themselves. You cant have responsible citizens if the lawmakers create two tier justice based on personal choice.
      You could also suggest those running the police and charged with ensuring the Law was upheld, worked on the front line first. They learnt from real human interaction and experience, not from a box ticking left-wing structure of teaching

    2. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      +1

  21. Ian B
    November 3, 2025

    From Home Office Figures released to the Media today

    “In June, the number of foreign violent offenders held in jails was at its highest since records began a decade ago. The figure had risen by 8.8 per cent in a year to 3,250, nearly double the 4.8 per cent rate of increase for Britons imprisoned for violence.”

    Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, said: “This is yet more evidence that migrants from some nationalities are more likely to commit certain crimes. We need the full data published now. Every day Keir Starmer covers it up and refuses to act, he is putting the British people at risk.”

    Jenrick has a point, but we have to be clear it is the greater majority in the UK Parliament that own the responsibility for the lack of action. This Parliament, the UK’s Legislators refuse to have Laws made for the UK, by the only ones authorised to do so, preferring to offshore UK Laws to those without a mandate or accountability. Sorry that is not how democracy works

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      And what percentage are people deemed ‘British’ by virtue of a government produced document rather then genes.

  22. formula57
    November 3, 2025

    Certainly the Home Secretary “needs to stress how justice will be applied impartially” but that is rather less easy to do against a background of releasing offenders early as a solution to prison overcrowding and directing judges to try to avoid passing custodial sentences.

    Instead of lamenting the poor performance of the Home Secretary and her not-fit-for-purpose department let us rather rejoice that on this occasion the victims were not told by the police it was a civil matter in which they would not involve themselves.

  23. Keith from Leeds
    November 3, 2025

    I agree, there are far too many crimes of violence today. But if it were investigated, the link between violent crime and cannabis consumption may give us an answer. But it won’t be, because too many liberal lefties support legalising this most dangerous drug. As well as releasing information about the attackers, the authorities should also advise on their cannabis consumption. It is no good treating the effect, violent crime, without also treating the cause.
    As to prison places, governments have been promising to build more prisons for about 30 years, and we are still waiting! At least, while criminals are in prison, the public is safe. But all we get is talk and no action.

  24. JP
    November 3, 2025

    Yes I agree the government does not appear to be in control of anything
    The PM does not appear confident and comes out with the same old rubbish
    It seems beyond them to step up a gear as they stand there watching the country sink

    1. Ian B
      November 3, 2025

      @JP – The PM as you call him is already on record in the media for placing the Socialist WEF doctrine and directions above even talking to those lowly ilk’s that populate the UK Parliament. Hence the reason he is generally AWOL out of the country rather than managing his motley crew and the country

  25. George
    November 3, 2025

    Hi sir john
    The train murders are not counted as terrorism or racist attacks by a person of colour this murder will be put in a mental hospital living in comfort while the families of the murderd have to suffer and live with the ever changing state of our country
    We now have barriers across our streets there are armed police in our shopping centres we still are being restricted at airports innocent children and adults are being murdered on our streets just going about their daily lives
    we are told there is no place for racism in sports yet the local Asian community in
    Birmingham are threatening white Jews at aston villa Supporting the teams
    we have religious racism going on in our city’s these are the same group that starmer has just given ten millions pounds to
    this is all due to diversity
    If this had been a while person on the train the news would be completely different it would be on tv constantly about racist the prime minister would be outside No 10 making assurances of protecting people and probably giving more millions of pounds away

  26. Ian B
    November 3, 2025

    Sir John
    I feel in a cynical sarcastic mode. Tomorrow (4th November) what some refer to the UK’s Legislators are in the final throws of transferring UK Sovereignty to another State, another Country that has never owned or even been there. Seemingly under orders from a foreign wannabe power that has no mandate, authority or oversite – not just over the UK but anyone in the World. They (The UK Parliament) wish to throw away parts of UK Safety & Security and huge amounts of the UK Taxpayers money, for no reason. It further confirms our Legislators are not fit for purpose as taking orders from those with no legitimacy or accountability, in foreign lands ahead of those that empower and pay them, to me that smacks of treason.

    How about a ‘Bill’ to make the UK a Democracy, the type where the people get to choose those that make its Laws, those that administer the Laws, then amend and repeal Laws. A Bill that forces the UK become a Sovereign Self-Governing Country – commonly called a democracy.

    We need a parliament that takes on its responsibilities treats them seriously. Not a Parliament that is in ‘hock’ and takes its direction from unelected unaccountable foreign powers. Not a Parliament that has a Law Industry taking massive amounts of money from the Taxpayers pockets to conspire with Foreign Powers. We need a Parliament and its chosen Government working for the UK and its Citizens, not one that just refuses its purpose.

    Blaming the Nations woes on named individuals, no longer cuts it when it is more then 50% of what likes to call themselves MP’s chose those individuals, they manage and hold those individuals to account. They approve and keep these things, this two-tier society and laws going – they personally and individually own today’s woes, miss-steps. All the time they keep fighting the Nation and its Citizens, they reduce their purpose and our need for them, they also pose the question who do they work for?

  27. George
    November 3, 2025

    Sir john
    My daughter in law works on the trains
    Cross country
    when She ask a woman for her ticket
    The woman had got on the train without a ticket
    When the woman was was asked to pay for her journey which is the normal thing staff have to do
    she attacked my daughter in law
    Shouting racism
    my daughter in law needed medical treatment and had to have time off
    work for her injures the police were involved and she was investigated for doing her job the black woman was found guilty of asulting my daughter in law
    This was not the first time my
    daughter in law has been asulted the racism card is used by some trying to avoid paying for their journey this is happening more to staff on our trains

  28. Peter D Gardner
    November 3, 2025

    The only way to stop the rumour mill, fake news and people taking the law into their own hands with retaliation̈ is for total openness.

  29. Mark
    November 3, 2025

    British Transport Police only took a few hours to release details of the citizenship and racial identity of the suspects in the Huntingdon incident, which is a significant improvement on many other cases in recent months, and an improvementto be encouraged. It took a while longer before they released the information that the actual perpetrator was known to police, and for them to release the second suspect as uninvolved in the incident.

    The question posed by the incident seems to be whether the known to police perpetrator was safe to let loose, and how many others pose similar risks and may need a more controled environment.

  30. glen cullen
    November 3, 2025

    Our police are no longer in control of our streets …..its as simple as that; who has the biggest gang ?

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      November 3, 2025

      Or in terms, ‘who rules Britain?’

  31. Wearside Peter
    November 3, 2025

    It is now 4pm on Monday and it is reported that the man concerned has also been charged with attempting murder the night before on a DLR station. So how did he manage to get from London back to Peterborough and then back on a London train without being apprehended? We have loads of CCTV cameras and lots of monitoring. No doubt we will be told we all need digital IDs to travel by rail next.

    I despair.

  32. Butties
    November 3, 2025

    What seems to be missing in the BTL thread is that our Governments (UniParty) are actually promoting and rewarding crime. Anyone entering our country (including crossing sea boundaries) illegally is not being subject to ADD policy (Arrest/Detain/Deport) but is actually being rewarded. Crime pays!

    1. Ian B
      November 3, 2025

      @Butties +1, got in one

  33. Ukret123
    November 3, 2025

    Having worked in Africa and the Caribbean decades ago you could rely on keeping out of trouble by avoiding certain areas and after nightfall etc to minimise the risk and stay safe. Also the local Police knew how to challenge any violence and didn’t hesitate to play hardball without fear of favour.
    The UK Police here hesitate by default as they have been trained to consider their legal consequences and how this would look later on camera and TV.
    Unfortunately this allows violent offenders the advantage of surprise outburst first blow as they know their Human rights all too well.
    The British public have decorum by default and are not conditioned to deal with violence so when it happens shock takes over unless one is fortunate to have been either in the armed forces or trained in self defence.
    Something has got to change, when any intervention could end up backfiring especially for citizens arrests.

  34. iain gill
    November 3, 2025

    the US Ambassador to the UK openly slagging off our high energy prices policy, is hilarious…

    and great that everyone can see it on twitter, as the BBC will never report it

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