Green madness just got madder

The Chancellor looked both ways on battery cars. Under pressure no doubt from Mr Miliband she put up the subsidy for people to buy expensive battery cars to £2 bn, and is exempting cars up to £50,000 from the extra VED dearer  petrol cars have pay.  Meanwhile, seeing the hole  in revenues from petrol and diesel tax in future years if battery cars do take off  in line with government  plans she announced a 3 p a mile  tax if you want  to use your subsidised battery vehicle.

Who will believe the battery car tax will stay as low as 3p a mile once introduced? Why subsidise dear battery cars when they are bought by well off people she wants to tax more?

She announced removing some of the renewable power subsidies charged to our electricity bills. They instead will be charged to our general tax bills. That does not lower the cost of  our ultra expensive green energy, merely shifts how we have to  pay through the nose for it.

She dropped any pretence of wanting a growth strategy, accepting down grades in growth by the official forecasters for the new forecast period. Fairness is the new  vogue  word, which means taking money from the majority who work hard and get on the in world to give to migrants and benefit recipients. Many voters will not think this fair.Many better off people will leave the country in disgust at government policies.

She did nothing about the progressive collapse of our industries, as if they are not happening.Nothing to lift the ban on new oil and gas or  on making petrol and diesel cars. Nothing to get the costs of energy down. No plan for steel. No mention  of farmers or food growing. No concern about rich people leaving. She has set herself up to fail again.

106 Comments

  1. MBJ
    November 27, 2025

    They all hark back to Rawls ‘ justice and fairness ‘ but don’t really understand it.What one puts into life has a reciprocal bounty ( theoretically)
    If an individual has not put anything into society,then their reward should not be leveled out according to workers and achievers ,but they should be allowed a hand out to get on the ladder to survival to exist and not at the same level as those who have given everything to society.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      John Rawls a Theory of Justice, it addresses the problem of distributive justice (the socially just distribution of goods in a society). Perhaps he should just have considered how to get jobs done (often unpleasant jobs done and get people out of bed to do them).

      Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals can fall for them!

      During his last two years at Princeton, he “became deeply concerned with theology and its doctrines”. He considered attending a seminary to study for the Episcopal priesthood and wrote an “intensely religious senior thesis.

      So he was rather potty I assume? He had two younger brothers who died of diphtheria (contracted for him) which perhaps cannot have helped.

      Fairness and a decent economy is surely about rewarding those who get out of bed and work hard and giving the feckless little choice but to get an alarm clock and to get out of bed too. Any other way is doom loop lunacy.

      1. Peter
        November 27, 2025

        Thirteen out of forty eight posts are by Lifelogic – over a quarter.

        Have we reached peak Lifelogic?

        The budget generated lots of comment. So I am expecting an ‘Allister Heath is surely right in today’s Telegraph’ comment at some stage.

        In the media, lots of talk about how bad things are and how much worse they will get.

        In the days of Harold Wilson, Heathrow airport was shutdown by the army without the prime minister being informed. Apparently Wilson feared a coup. There would be no chance of that happening today. Many of the leading military figures are in the Cressida Dick woke mould and are close to government for career advancement reasons.

        The general populace will moan, but are unlikely to riot. The big groups who might foment a riot are probably infiltrated, so measures will be taken to prevent them having any effect.

      2. MBJ
        November 27, 2025

        Well it’s not really about the person but the concepts.I find it difficult to understand why anyone should disagree with the concept that those who give more should get less and be penalised for contributing more to society than those who do little or nothing and expect similar .

        I always feel slightly sickly when individual performance or individual names are gloried or otherwise and someone shows off about themselves or degrades others.That was my upbringing as a Brit.

      3. Geoffrey Berg
        November 27, 2025

        The best that should be said of John Rawls is that he found a novel way (veil of ignorance) of advocating for a notion silly within the context of human nature, human nature that he ignored. That he is widely seen as the foremost political philosopher of the last 50 years shows that philosophy should not be left in the hands of academics as has been happening for the last 200 years or so. There are now many much better and more interesting political thinkers outside the Universities- for instance when one follows what she actually personally believes (for example an overriding loyalty to humanity as a whole that overrides countries, races, sexes and animals and honestly accommodating reality in her thought etc;) Joan Baez even though I disagree with many of her views; Suella Braverman who may be a little less radical but certainly often sees what should be done before any other politician does and perhaps above all Donald Trump who has on an almost global scale been transforming the politics of much of the political right (the essence of which seems to be pride in and the primacy of the interests of one’s nation, deemphasising both Capitalism which approach I am not entirely happy with and racism within the nation which helps explains why he gets more votes from the relatively poor and ethnic minorities than conventional right wing politicians have done). These are titans compared to the leading political philosophers at the Universities. The attempted University closed shop in ideas ( a closed shop that cannot be maintained in practical matters like business or technology) should not be maintained in ideas!

    2. PeteB
      November 27, 2025

      Indeed. Welfare support should not be at a level that makes ‘benefits’ a suitable lifestyle choice.

      On the topic of the 3ppm EV tax, it was obvious this would come as fossil fuel taxes declined. A work of warning to EV drivers – currently the chancellor takes around 80p of tax per litre on petrol & diesel. This equates to approx 8ppm in a car doing 45mpg (10 miles/litre). Where do we expect the EV mileage tax to finish up?

      1. Lifelogic
        November 27, 2025

        Indeed and the people who keep their old cars and pay this 8p plus per mile fuel tax (rather more with start stop city driving) are causing less CO2 than the usually richer EV car buyers are per mile. Plus they pay more road tax too when EVs are heavier and cause more road damage too!

        1. Peter
          November 27, 2025

          Even ‘The Socialist Worker’ newspaper did not like the budget. Reeves cannot win.
          https://socialistworker.co.uk/labour/labours-autumn-budget-pleases-no-one/

          Only our contrarian Sakara Gold has a good word for it.

      2. a-tracy
        November 27, 2025

        Are you taking into account that Electricity top-ups are subject to VAT already?

  2. Stephen Sharp
    November 27, 2025

    You say that the chancellor has ‘No plan for steel.’ I thought it was the Soviet Union that had a planned economy.

    Reply As the government is paying the bills at Scunthorpe it needs a business plan like any other business owner!

    1. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      Lots of plans to steal though! She call it “Asking” people to pay a little more – so she can piss it down the drain and augment even more fecklessness and her doom loop lunacy.

      To reply:- if they have a business plan it will surely be a potty one. What will it say about the insanity of Ed’s energy religion, the unions and the insanity of the new workers right bill with rights from day one?

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        November 27, 2025

        🔥 well said.

        1. Peter
          November 27, 2025

          Indeed. A welcome return of the ‘drain’ metaphor which we have not seen from LL in quite some time.

      2. Berkshire Alan.
        November 27, 2025

        Reply
        Yet Another money pit of debt for the taxpayer to fund.

      3. Mickey Taking
        November 27, 2025

        If she meant it when she said she is asking me to contribute then she can do the other thing.

    2. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      Can we, as enforced shareholders in this steel plant, see the business plan if they have one please!

      1. Lifelogic
        November 27, 2025

        Can the “green madness”” get any madder than Ed’s zealotry?

        A bit more CO2 is a net good, it actually greens the planet and slightly warmer (it would only be slight) is a good thing too on balance. It is the gas of life.

        EV cars cause more CO2 (not less in general) especially on a typical energy mix. Other low CO2 policies largely just export industry and save no sig. CO2 if any.

        Burning wood young coal at Drax is worse environmentally, causes more CO2 not less and is far more expensive than burning coal too.

        Net Zero destroys our defence capacity too.

    3. Mark
      November 27, 2025

      If there were some joined up thinking, then the excellent report from the Nuclear Regulatory Taskforce, which echoed and more the written submissions I made to the ESNZ Select Committee on nuclear issues would have them not destroying any hope of a low cost supply chain for nuclear.

      The one recommendation of mine they missed was to take away the energy planning role from NESO, and to use Great British Nuclear to make British nuclear great by showing how nuclear could be done cheaply and avoid the extensive despoilment of our countryside and the massive cost of renewables and More Grid. France ensured its steel industry could build the reactors for its nuclear programme that peaked in the 1980s.

  3. Peter Wood
    November 27, 2025

    The most helpful analysis I have seen so far on the budget is on the Spectator website. The ‘macro picture’ is interesting pointing out that most expenditure occurs from the next financial year forward, but the tax increases as back loaded, even past the next GE, and that certain large expenses are not included, such as the employment rights Bill and the Digital ID Bill. This opens up increased borrowing now, and a bigger debt problem for the next government. Truly a ‘Spend then Tax’ budget. Will it go to plan…..

    1. Peter Wood
      November 27, 2025

      PS, was there anything about defence spending?

      1. Lifelogic
        November 27, 2025

        A foot note saying that “with Ed’s energy policy a working defence policy is not really possible so let’s not bother” – was perhaps needed? The Russians have already mapped all our under sea energy cables, data cables and gas and oil pipes anyway! The Chinese will also do their bit from their new “embassy” shortly to be nodded through by Labour!

        1. Berkshire Alan.
          November 27, 2025

          Indeed the undersea infrastructure will cause far more disruption if damaged, attacked.

          TwoTier has not got the courage to refuse the embassy that location.

        2. boffin
          November 27, 2025

          Spot on, LL, and not just subsea – it is pathetically easy to shut down our ageing high pressure gas grid for many days by simple sabotage, and that will take down everything – witness the shutdown of the Iberian peninsula earlier this year.

      2. graham1946
        November 27, 2025

        Yes, she promised to spend a 2.6 percent by 2028, I think it was. How we get to the 5 percent I don’t know. Probably around the turn of the century at this rate. Meanwhile featherbedding of the feckless and lazy continues apace.

      3. Lynn Atkinson
        November 27, 2025

        You think the Defence For e should have another £7.5 billion to spend on importing the ‘Afghan Tigers’?

  4. Mick
    November 27, 2025

    And in the meantime King Charles thinks that this excuse for a government are doing a fantastic job, I’ve got news for you your Highness they are not and the majority of your subjects think the same, this ragtag of a government only got in because your people we’re fed up to the back teeth of the Tory’s welching on doing what was right for your people , I’m sure the late Queen wouldn’t have let this ragtag outfit to carry on dragging us back to the 60s/70s so why are you, do what’s right for the millions who get up every day to do a days slog and get these people out of government and call a General Election before you don’t have a great country that yourself and many more like me don’t recognise anymore End of rant

    1. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      Well we know what the grade one climate hypocrite King Charles thinks.

      King Charles III, while still the Prince of Wales, notably warned in July 2009 that the world had just “96 months” left to act before climate change caused “irretrievable climate and ecosystem collapse”. This translated to a deadline around March 2017. So to King CHARLES it is now all over anyway!

    2. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      Later the same year in a July 2009 lecture, the then Prince Charles referenced a similar countdown, stating there were just 96 months left to avert “irretrievable climate and ecosystem collapse”. Lest there was any doubt of his doomsday eco-lunacy.

      Keep out of politics mate like you mum, especially in this climate alarmist area where you are clearly totaly deluded, out of your depth and also appear to your subjects to be as a grade one hypocrite.

      1. Stred
        November 27, 2025

        What’s the betting KC3 will wave through the ending of trial by jury for most cases and have trial by lefty activist judges that agree with KC3 instead?

        1. Lifelogic
          November 29, 2025

          +1

    3. Lynn Atkinson
      November 27, 2025

      He can’t. When he is instructed by the PM he ‘like a Paige’ undertakes the formal part of dissolving the Government.
      Did you think the Monarch had power? This is a republic – run by an elected House and has been for a while, 800 years.

    4. Christine
      November 27, 2025

      The budget doesn’t affect King Charles. King Charles is not required to pay road tax or have a driver’s license, as these regulations do not apply to the monarch. He lives in a different world to us plebs, where Inheritance Tax doesn’t apply to him, and most of his income is free of income and corporation tax.

  5. Lifelogic
    November 27, 2025

    Yet more doom loop insanity from Reeves. She goes on about growth but everything she, Kier, Miliband, Phillipson… does is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-landlord, anti-road users, anti-employers, anti-workers, anti-savers, anti-pension savers, anti-tenant, anti-good worker and pro the feckless and lazy ones

    But she did say she is only “ASKING” us all to pay a little more” so I assume we can just politely refuse can we? Or was this ASKING word a direct lie to the HoC. Sorry Ms Reeves but as your governments are so appallingly misguided & hugely wasteful, hugely over tax and are anti-growth I have decided not to pay any more despite your “ASKING”. I feel this is my moral duty.

    Best,

    Or did she really mean by “asking” I am demanding with menaces unless you leave or go on a dole we will mug you all with our doom loop lunacies.

    If you want to pop round anytime then I and my wife and daughters can man and womansplain some basic economic realities to you. If Miliband come too I can explain some physics and energy realities too, I Bridget pops in I can mansplane why VAT on school fees is the complete reverse of what is needed, Lammy too and I can explain why Chagos is total insanity and why we need Juries, and give Kier a lesson on the dire policies of two tier justice and the total insanity of the evil “workers” rights bill
    which will harm workers and employers too.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      Kemi did quite a good performance yesterday. Though such an easy target for her!

      1. Dave Andrews
        November 27, 2025

        Yes it was quite theatrical. The problem for the Tories is that Labour are just continuing the same policies except perhaps with a bit more on the accelerator.
        Just listened to a car crash interview between Nick Robinson and Rachel Reeves. Well done BBC on this one.

        1. glen cullen
          November 27, 2025

          Agree

    2. Jazz
      November 27, 2025

      I hope they do visit for a nice informative chat

      1. Peter
        November 27, 2025

        I imagine them turning up in LL’s local pub hoping to remain incognito.

        Once recognised, LL berates them much to the amusement of the regulars.

        Liberal Democrat Zak Goldsmith, who famously holds a pint of beer with both hands, turned up in one of the pubs I use for canvassing purpose. He got off very lightly though.

    3. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      I missed off the Health Sec. Wes Streeting I could have explained to him why the NHS structure cannot ever work efficiently as currently structured, that lockdowns and the covid vaccines did huge net harm yet still in use, the Hallett covid inquiry is a very sick expensive joke. Oh and why Lucy Letby clearly deserves an appeal as all 15 convictions are clearly totally unsafe. Who killed the babies who dies while she was not on duty? Maternity care is rather dire in the UK as is Cancer Care and much else!

    4. Know-Dice
      November 27, 2025

      Will she be “asking” Mr Starmer to pay tax on his DPP pension?

      1. Berkshire Alan.
        November 28, 2025

        KD
        I think you and I know the answer to that one !

  6. Mark B
    November 27, 2025

    Good morning

    Who will believe the battery car tax will stay as low as 3p a mile once introduced?

    And who will not believe that it will not be just battery cars that will be charged this additional tax ?

    The infrastructure is already in and the government will want to recoup the money and pay for digital ID.

    1. a-tracy
      November 27, 2025

      Lets hope it is applied to foreign trucks for using and putting heavy goods wear and tear on British roads, this was the argument for EVs after all. 3p per mile payable on exit, clocking coming in and clocked going out.

  7. Rod Evans
    November 27, 2025

    The phrase “fiddling while Rome burns” comes to mind when considering this latest anti business anti entrepreneurial budget from Labour.
    It was another round of rewarding the feckless while hammering the wealth creators.
    The most remarkable feature of this anti growth budget is the financial markets reaction to it?
    What do the stock pickers know that we mere punters don’t?

    1. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      It could have been even worse so it jumped back a little. But the Reeves, Ed, Lammy, Kier, doom loop lunacy continues from all directions! The riders are now bigger than the horses that carry them. The horses are dying, giving up or rather wisely are just leaving.

      1. Rod Evans
        November 27, 2025

        It is no surprise to me to hear so many young professionals discussing emigrating out of the madness that now passes for society here in the UK.
        The innate entrepreneurial spirit that has carried our nation forward this past 500 years is voting with its feet.

  8. Sakara Gold
    November 27, 2025

    The markets liked Reeves’ budget. When she sat down, the FTSE 100 was trading at 9,670 – it’s highest since early last week. By mid-afternoon, it had edged up further to 9,695

    The bond market liked that the lady will meet her stability rule a year early and more than doubling financial headroom to £21.7 billion. The pound rose by 0.3% against both the dollar and euro to above $1.32 and €1.14. With 25% of UK government gilts tied to the RPI measure of inflation, the cost of government borrowing fell to 4.3%.

    The cost of servicing the national debt over the current financial year is now estimated to total around £114bn. The capital markets think it will stay at about that level until next year’s budget.

    The chancellor did not increase the headline rates of income tax, National Insurance (NI) contributions or VAT – and kept the pensioners onside by keeping the triple lock. Strike one for Rachel from accounts.

    Reply She plans to add £628 bn to debt over next five years which will drive up interest costs by at least £ 25 bn

    1. IanT
      November 27, 2025

      She’s promised the Markets growth and tax rises SG, so they’ve given her the benefit of the doubt for now.
      I wouldn’t bet on that confidence holding for too long when welfare bills carry on going through the roof and the promised “growth” fails to materialise. There’s a lot of ‘spend today and pay tomorrow’ in there and that’s never a good way to go.

    2. Berkshire Alan.
      November 27, 2025

      SG the markets work many months in advance, the Budget was already priced in, short of a disaster surprise.

      Tax paid per person rises every year as the tax free allowance is frozen.
      I already pay tax on my State pension because I get graduated pension (paid for), and delayed taking my pension for 2 years to get a 10% increase, the triple lock only covers the very basic pension, not the extras.
      Why do we now have 2 state pension rates, the new one from 2016, and the old one up to 2016.

    3. graham1946
      November 27, 2025

      The markets liked it? No they didn’t, they just didn’t panic having had a months worth of leaks anyway. No need for her speech really, moronic though it was. She just set up businesses to fail so the asset strippers could move in and close them down. Result, no business, no employment, no taxes. She is plain and simple stupid and not fit for the job.

    4. Donna
      November 28, 2025

      Just wait until the MSM (Daily Mail or Sun) find some “oh so deserving” families where none of the adults work – and probably never have – but have produced 6 kids and have just hit pay-gold, thanks to Theeves. I wonder if the Daily Mail or Sun will have the nerve to demonstrate that many of these oh-so-deserving families are recent immigrants?

      British taxpayers are being hammered to fund a Welfare State for the 3rd World.

  9. Christine
    November 27, 2025

    Yet again, British motorists are hammered, yet foreign vehicles pay nothing.

    Pre-Brexit, some 150,000 Irish lorries used the English landbridge every year. About 40 per cent of Irish exports and 13 per cent of imports cross the trade thoroughfare every year. More than 80 per cent of the one million “roll-on, roll-off” lorries that use Irish ports every year pass through UK ports.

    An easy win for Reeves would have been to introduce a vignette system as they have in Switzerland.
    But ‘oh no’, we can’t expect our EU friends to pay towards our roads, can we? Just continue to bleed the UK motorist dry.

    1. Lifelogic
      November 27, 2025

      +1

    2. Diane
      November 27, 2025

      Christine: + 1 on that. A very sensible point made here before.
      And we know the EU is already ramping up the pressure too re the Starmer Reset contributions being demanded of us. Just a thought too, where does the proposed £ 6 billion for our entry to the EU’s defence bids ‘privileges ‘fit in to all of this.

  10. Berkshire Alan.
    November 27, 2025

    I am sure even more worrying details will come out when everyone reads the small print, that has always been the case in the past.

  11. David Cooper
    November 27, 2025

    “Janus-faced”: having or showing two opposite or contrasting aspects, especially in a hypocritical or deceitful way. How many Cabinet Ministers possess this questionable attribute?

  12. Ian B
    November 27, 2025

    “Why subsidise dear battery cars when they are bought by well off people” – then also why are those that can’t afford a new car subsidising those that can?

    1. Bloke
      November 27, 2025

      The loss of petrol tax income from EVs was predicted independently long ago as was the necessary charge on EVs to replace it. The idiotic way the government created the lure of an incentive to buy and then closed the trap after purchase was typical of Labour deceptiveness.
      If people found the most efficient way of travel was by camel, Rachel would get the hump and respond with taxation vengeance. Camel drivers beware of a statutory triple-lock meter fitted to camel output at £3 per gallon, £4 per kilogram or £5 per mile: whichever is the greater.

      1. IanT
        November 27, 2025

        I can’t find a low mileage camel but I might know where I can pick up a well behaved donkey. I’d have to lead her of course (as the wife doesn’t drive) but next Christmas I could take Mrs T shopping on it (well wrapped up against the cold). I could use the new cycling (donkey?) lanes being planned and hopefully will not have any issues with cyclists rear-ending us. I just have to figure out where to pin the Blue Badge when we park (without getting kicked) although if there’s a Nativity play going on, they might be wlling to feed and water her for our return trip. Maybe the council will have dedicated Donkey parking by then – as the UK rapidly regresses back to an idylic pre-industrial state.

        1. Lynn Atkinson
          November 27, 2025

          Bet your donkey is coming from the Labour front bench! I spotted a few there yesterday myself.

          1. IanT
            November 28, 2025

            I did specify “well behaved” Lynn…and a Donkey, not an Ass 🙂

      2. Berkshire Alan.
        November 27, 2025

        Bloke
        Afraid camels drink water and we could have a hosepipe ban, or further pollution in the water which would be even worse, do not think the AA or RAC could help with a camel breakdown.
        Mind you may save on parking fees as they could be trained to wonder off when an enforcement officer arrives, also no number plate to work out who owns it !
        They may leave a bit of slurry in the road though, perhaps may be good for the garden if collected.
        In some City’s abroad the horses towing a carraige wear poo bags to avoid the above !

      3. Ian B
        November 27, 2025

        @Bloke – it was never right that those with money to buy EVs in the first place, should then have that purchase funded/subsidised by the Taxpayer, most of whom cant afford any ‘new car’.

        Technically or way back in history, we had a ‘road fund’ tax to do just that fund roads. It doesn’t work that way now, if it did EV’s would be paying a larger amount than the equivalent ICE car – their weight cause more road damage (that might be still to come), their tyre wear causes greater ocean pollution. University studies show 85% of Ocean micro Pyroplastics pollution comes from modern day car tyres and brakes. EV tend to be getting on for twice the weight of normal traffic – logic then they create up-to twice as much ocean pollution.

        It has been announced to day that they haven’t opted for the ‘spy’ version for mileage checks. The mileage will come from the annual MOT check up. If only the Mayor of London was to do similar checks he wouldn’t be charging drivers for the pollution they don’t create – output is checked and registered at the time of MOT’s.

        As usual the UK Parliament didn’t think things through or even ask the question, to busy massage the ego of self

        1. Bloke
          November 29, 2025

          @Ian B
          If EVs were worthy of purchase, no subsidy would be needed to push their sale. As SJR pointed out much earlier on, the mobile phone market didn’t need govt discounts to make people realise how valuable mobiles are on their own merit. Whatever the product or service, consumer demand pulls the best performance and contentedly pays its price.

      4. Lifelogic
        November 27, 2025

        But what will the camels eat as all the farms are being put out of business – or covered in solar panels!

  13. Ian B
    November 27, 2025

    “She did nothing about the progressive collapse of our industries” – then again that has been Parliament plan to hasten the destruction of the UK having resilience, self-reliance and a future. That is not just this Parliament that is against having an economy that has been the diktat of all recent Parliaments.

    How will it pan out for a future when just crudely speaking 45% of the UK’s working population is now funding and supporting not only themselves but also the other 55%? Especially when there is no economy and UK wealth is being exported by design by an incompetent Parliament

  14. IanT
    November 27, 2025

    Watched Allianze’s El-Erian last night. He was asked about the positive market reaction to the Budget. He is always careful (diplomatic?) and agreed reaction had been positive but stated that Markets were working on the basis that taxes were rising AND that Reeves would get the growth she’s promised. That last one is a very big ‘IF’ in my view.

  15. Sharon
    November 27, 2025

    Writing about the madness, Alistair Heath observes, “they have unleashed full-blooded socialism on a country that never voted for it, raised tax by about £68bn a year over two budgets (according to the Resolution Foundation) and declared war on property rights and the productive class.”

    “In Rachel Reeves’s brave new world, meritocracy is out – redistribution, welfarism and enforced equality are in”

    So many economists, and centre right people, have used the ‘s’ word, socialism…

    It is truly terrifying!

  16. Ian B
    November 27, 2025

    After yesterday blaming Brexit, today Rachel Reeves has blamed Donald Trump’s tariffs and former prime minister Liz Truss for the tax rises announced in the Budget.. “when the previous government under Liz Truss lost control of the public finances,” she told GB News.

    So a Tax on jobs? what did that do? The expelling of UK Industry what has that done? and so on….

    Green energy, the most expensive energy is about sending to Foreign Governments UK money for it never to return, never to produce meaningful UK jobs, never to reduce energy bills down to a commercial level. Another lie promoted by Parliament

    Parliament allows the trend of repeating the lies over and over, are they hoping they can deflect from their incompetence?

  17. Kenneth
    November 27, 2025

    It’s a budget for the minority paid for by the majority.

    Yet another example of giving voters what they DIDN’T vote for

  18. William Long
    November 27, 2025

    I cannot understand why everyone sounds so surprised; she is just a socialist doing what it says on her tin.

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      November 27, 2025

      I think we are surprised at how kak-handed they are.

      1. Lifelogic
        November 28, 2025

        Kak – from the Latin cacare it seems!

    2. Lifelogic
      November 28, 2025

      What does it say on the tin? “Wreck the economy with doom loop lunacy, net zero and reams of red tape” perhaps?

  19. Ukret123
    November 27, 2025

    Farce budget and an unwelcome pantomime complete with pantomime villains and jokers at Westminster totally divorced from the disastrous Public finances and most seriously detached from reality.
    Absolutely pathetic and cowardice by the Labour Party to confront their bull in a China shop wrecking ball.
    Badenoch mimicking pantomime response instead of pointing out that this is extremely serious expecting growth to come from non business sources while killing off the real growth drivers by stealth.
    At least the OBR has lately annoyed Labour by its downgrades of the economy and the early release of the budget seeing Rachel Reeves concerned reaction while reading it on her mobile phone demonstrated her confronting her own Budget was nothing to smile about. Rabbit in the headlights moment.

    1. Mark
      November 27, 2025

      I noted that the OBR forecasts a rebound in housebuilding. I see nothing in the budget that will help with that. Net zero policies continue to force up building costs, while increased property taxation and costlier mortgages through attacks on savings will reduce demand, with falling property prices dampening the market and risking another Financial Crisis. Builders only build what they think they can sell at a profit.

      Reply A delayed recovery. OBR figures show no hope of hitting 1.5 m this Parliament as many of us have already said. They show strong figures from 2029 when no-one accurately forecast. It is a guess designed to be nice to a failing policy.

      1. Lifelogic
        November 28, 2025

        +1 and to the reply! Development funding expensive, property value declining in many areas, stamp duty up, red tape up, tax up, NI up,, building reg up…

  20. iain gill
    November 27, 2025

    The perverse social engineering of encouraging first cousins to have children, of which the majority will have significant health problems, and then giving them significant benefits to do so, the more children the more money the parents get to spend, plus mobility car, and free taxi’s to school every day even though they have a state subsidised car, plus all the inevitable expensive healthcare (and I’ve been around Birmingham children’s hospital and seen first hand the sheer numbers of such children in there), staggers belief. While taking the money away from the decent young couples who earn it, and cannot afford to have children themselves.
    We have entered state engineered society madness.

    1. Donna
      November 28, 2025

      Correct. But they will have recovered a few more of the bloc votes that went AWOL when they were forced to instruct the Police to investigate historic Rape Gang complaints.

    2. Lifelogic
      November 28, 2025

      +1

  21. Harry MacMillion
    November 27, 2025

    Many voters will not think this fair. Many better off people will leave the country in disgust at government policies.

    The good news is that there are still countries that do not want to commit national suicide. But with our prospects souring by the day I certainly would leave the UK if I had some real money behind me.

    It’s not just the economic state of the country or these foul socialist budgets, or the destruction of our industrial base, or the woke establishment imposing their foul policies on us like puberty blockers and assisted suicide, abortion, illegal immigration, nor is it the oppressive legislation we have to confront; digital Ids, digital money and Human rights. It’s not even the lack of a real future for so many or the fact that the country is morally and financially bankrupt.

    It’s because of all of these and so many more absurdities that I would choose to live elsewhere if I could!

    We are at a tipping point – if labour remain in power much longer there will be no chance of saving anything.

  22. iain gill
    November 27, 2025

    Got to be said the US approach of stopping any and all visa applications from Afghan nationals is correct.

    We should be doing the same.

    Deport every last one of them.

    1. Berkshire Alan.
      November 27, 2025

      Ian
      Nice to see immediate action to a problem, may be a bit OTT, but action is what is needed.
      Shame our Leaders are not as pro active.

  23. glen cullen
    November 27, 2025

    This pay per mile is the biggest worry of the budget, people do not realise that it means a ‘spy-in-the cab’, government/police clocking your movements, selling your driving behaviour to insurance companies, enforcing 20mph and net-zero drive zones ….we already have a pay per mile system; its called VAT ie a purchase tax (they just don’t want to increase that tax headline because people can see it every time they fill up)

    1. Harry MacMillion
      November 27, 2025

      @ Glen Spot on

      This is another blow to our freedom of movement and action, and the data behind it that can be collected should be recognized as such.

      The establishment have been looking for an excuse to install the spy in your car for some time – now they have it by going against the original intention not to tax E-cars – but that’s your socialists for you.

    2. Berkshire Alan.
      November 27, 2025

      Glen
      There was some speculation that milage would be recorded from servicing or MOT records adding to the costs of a garage/dealership overhead.
      Then we have the problem that if you use your car abroad (as I do) where you pay their road tolls for a number of weeks each year, do I have to record my milage completed abroad, and deduct that from the total for UK milage. ?
      Or do we have Toll roads with automatic camera’s.
      Me thinks someone not thinking this through.

      1. glen cullen
        November 28, 2025

        The vehicle’s mileage is already recorded during every MOT test and is printed on the certificate

        1. Berkshire Alan.
          November 29, 2025

          Glen
          An Mot test is not required until a car is three years old, and many people who lease cars do so on a 3 year contract, thus an MOT record will never be undertaken or exist for such vehicles and their owners or lease holders.

  24. Original Richard
    November 27, 2025

    Socialism depends upon making and keeping people poor. The Net Zero project is the perfect vehicle to achieve this aim as the unilateral setting of our target to achieve an 81% reduction in CO2 emissions by 2035 and net zero by 2050 requires a massive drop in energy consumption and hence living standards. We have had socialist governments since 1997 pushing this agenda, together with other high wasteful spending, to justify high taxation coupled with mass immigration. There is no climate crisis and both the historical and scientific evidence is that CO2 does not control global temperature. There is no natural or indeed anthropogenic explanation for the start of the last ice age or the warming to exit just 11,000 years ago. Nor for the Roman warm period when vines were grown up by Hadrian’s Wall or for the medieval warm period when Icelandic Norsemen colonised Greenland. Nor for the last 450,000 years, when both CO2 and temperature have been exceptionally low, when CO2 has been following temperature according to the Antarctic Vostok ice core data. Happer & Wijngaarden have demonstrated using the IPCC’s own radiative warming theory that there is already sufficient CO2 in the atmosphere to cause all the warming feasible and hence adding more CO2 makes little, if any, difference. A phenomenon known as saturation which is endorsed by The Royal Society and which is akin to adding more kitchen paper to a spill once the first few sheets have already absorbed all the liquid.

  25. Barrie Emmett
    November 27, 2025

    The Chancellor delivered a budget for her backbenchers, nothing for inspiration or business. But tell me who are, ordinary working people? A budget for shirkers per se. Disappointing but as expected.

  26. rose
    November 27, 2025

    How do we know it is she doing all this destructive thinking? All this economic illiteracy? The huge and powerful body of permanent staff in the Treasury, the OBR, the Bank of England, and that shadow treasury which has been moved into no 10 – Darren Jones and Torsten Bell with their team – that army of mansplainers must surely be having their say.

  27. Keith from Leeds
    November 27, 2025

    In the world of the blind, a one-eyed man is King. Sadly, Labour don’t even have anyone with one eye! The budget, last year and this, is the result of a bunch of students who have never grown up.
    Socialism always fails; this Labour Government will fail faster than its predecessors!
    Get ready for the crash, because it will happen faster than you think.

  28. Mark
    November 27, 2025

    On the energy front Labour have blinked by admitting that Net Zero is unaffordable, moving some of the subsidies to be financed by more debt. Equally, they are hoping to benefit from falling oil and gas prices to mask increased fuel duty from September and rising net zero costs.

    Recent refinery closures are not helping fuel costs leaving us vulnerable to the smaller pools of surplus product from overseas refineries and greater cost of shipping for products compared with crude oil. It probably helps Russian exports to third countries to free up the supply we need.

    The one positive was cancelling the ECO nuts scheme which has caused damage through damp and mould and been extremely poor value for money, as identified by the National Audit Office. Something I called for in my submission to the ESNZ Select Committee enquiry on Cost of Energy. There needs to be a wider appreciation that most government run insulation projects are uneconomic failures.

  29. glen cullen
    November 27, 2025

    Today reported that net immigration last year was coming down to only 200,000, everyone is spinning the figures down …..no no no, last year net immigration was 200,000 that’s the size of Luton, all on benefits, all polluting the UK

    1. Donna
      November 28, 2025

      Immigration hasn’t reduced by much; emigration has massively increased.

      We are importing goat herders and their dependants and are losing educated and skilled Brits.

      1. glen cullen
        November 28, 2025

        Correct

    2. Berkshire Alan.
      November 29, 2025

      Glen
      The big worry is that 250,000 of our young (under 40 years of age), and possibly brightest, are leaving the uk.
      Those 500,000 who are replacing them are ???????

  30. RDM
    November 27, 2025

    It’s not just the Greens!

    Our Politicians seemed to have lost any connection to reality!

    I even believe you were not open to an alternative narrative (Please answer for your self)!

    See Redacted
    Is Ukraine Really a Democracy? Here’s the Truth From Someone Who Was There.

    For years, Western governments and establishment media have hammered a single message into the public:
    Ukraine is a democracy.
    Ukraine is worth every dollar.
    Ukraine must be defended at all costs.

    But what if none of that was ever true?

    Today on Redacted, we sit down with former French Army Reserve Officer and OSCE international observer Benoît Paré, who spent seven years inside Ukraine — from 2015 to 2022 — witnessing firsthand what Western media refused to report.

    And what he reveals is devastating.

    Benoît Paré’s testimony is one of the most powerful interviews in Redacted history.
    It is blunt.
    It is emotional.
    And it completely destroys the mainstream narrative about Ukraine.

    If you watch one interview this week, let it be this one.

    👉 Watch our full interview with Benoît Paré here.
    Benoit Paré Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaejc9QMDu0

    I’m not saying he is correct, just that there are questions that we are all have a responsibility in asking!

    Worth watching, even if you still do not accept it!

    British Cost; It has cost, and will cost, far too much!
    GB needs to constraint on British Defence, ASAP! Not EU, or Ukraine (Too later). Before we leave an Open Door!

  31. Butties
    November 27, 2025

    A simple request to our host. Re Milliwatt philosophy how far will you allow comments on the UNIPARTY policy? Only asking to avoid blanking of my commemts.

    Reply There is no uniparty. No comments on nonsense. When we had Conservative government this site allowed plenty of criticism and analysis of government policy. I am doing the same with a Labour government.

    1. Butties
      November 27, 2025

      In Fact will you simply publish

  32. davies
    November 27, 2025

    If I was back in my 20s/30s before family i would be on my way as well. I cant say I blame so many for leaving.
    The only thing this (hopefully) guarantees is we wont see another Labour administration in my lifetime once this shower is booted out.

    1. Donna
      November 28, 2025

      My younger son who works in a senior capacity in The City is currently on holiday in Asia. I messaged him and said “don’t bother coming back – it isn’t worth it.”

  33. Lynn Atkinson
    November 27, 2025

    All the spending is now and most of the new and increased taxes are delayed.
    It’s almost as though they were preparing for an early election…..

    1. Berkshire Alan.
      November 29, 2025

      Lynn
      They are doing a Gordon Brown, remember PFI contracts, selling Gold at a low price, saddling us with debt and spending, so the next lot have a real problem, and a real black hole to fill, not a made up one.

  34. Old Albion
    November 27, 2025

    A perfect example of governmental joined up thinking.
    Ban the production of ICE cars from 2030.
    Offer subsidies to encourage the purchase of EV’s
    Then realise there’s a financial loss from road tax, so make EV owners pay it.
    Then realise there’s a financial loss from no fuel duty. So introduce PPM for EV’s
    Then watch as EV sales drop back and second hand EV values go through the floor.

  35. Original Richard
    November 28, 2025

    In the budget debate I don’t think one Conservative MP mentioned the cost of this green madness. I didn’t check the speeches from the Lib Dems as they are totally in favour of this madness. You would think that the costs of this green madness would be affecting our finances sufficiently to warrant a mention:

    According to Professor Gordon Hughes of the Renewable Energy Foundation the UK taxpayer has already funded £220bn in renewable subsidies (£8000/household) since 2002 (2024 prices) and is currently funding £26bn/year. NESO has costed its Clean Power 2030 project at “over £40bn annually”, so another £8000/household by 2030 by which time it will be necessary to not only subsidise the renewables, the grid upgrades and the battery backups etc. but also the gas generated backup which will be needed to be available at any time to provide full power whilst only used for 5% of the time. NESO’s plan also necessitates rolling blackouts, called euphemistically, Demand Side Response (DSR), at times of peak demand and when electricity over the interconnectors is not available or insufficient and this will also have a cost to each household.

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