Questions to the advisers over the pandemic

The Chief Executive of the NHS was rarely present at the news  conferences to present the actions being taken to handle the pandemic. That was a pity, as  many of the most important matters were for those running the NHS. One of the main aims of the policy generally was to avoid  placing too much strain on NHS capacity. We needed to know how staff were going to be protected and helped to tackle this big challenge. We needed to know how all the extra money and resource was going to be deployed, how the hospitals would cope and how the virus would gradually be brought under control.

The scientific and medical advisers usually present have a close working relationship with the NHS senior administrators. They did not however see fit to give us presentations about work on finding drugs that could abate symptoms or avert  serious developments in a covid patient. They did not comment  much on why the NHS put in substantial extra  bed capacity for the pandemic, used it little and then closed it all down again before the pandemic was over. They did not comment on the underuse made of the private hospitals whose capacity the NHS bought up for the first year of the disease.

They were reluctant to be tempted to discuss improving infection control. We did not get regular reports on how they were changing and improving air extraction, UV filtration and better air management though they told us  it was an airborne disease.They decided against creating isolation hospitals that just handled covid, living with cross infection dangers in all DG hospitals. They allowed early discharge of elderly patients to care homes in the first weeks of the pandemic which may have increased the wave of infection that visited those homes.

On the whole the news conferences stuck to a routine of presenting figures for cases, hospital admissions  and deaths, and forecasts of grim news to come, followed by announcements and comments on various lockdown policies being followed. They did not do a good job bringing out the need for strong action on treatments, infection control and improving NHS capacity. They told us little about how the senior management of the NHS were using their staff and facilities, how they were managing the  covid workload or how they were ensuring fairness and safety for their medical employees facing the pandemic dangers.

187 Comments

  1. lifelogic
    December 12, 2021

    Good points – but it seems the new head of the NHS is neither medical nor numerate nor good at press conferences so best keep her hidden perhaps.

    A spectator podcast on Cop 26 tells us how EDF had to fire up an old coal fired power station (due to be destroyed) using coal trucked in from Russian to keep the lights (and hospital ventilators etc.) going. Great planning from the national grid and our energy department.

    The brilliant Emily Thornbury then suggests “wave power” as a good back up for when there is no wind. “Whether the wind blows or not the waves are always there” she says. Well yes dear but only if you keep dropping stones into the sea though! Never underestimate the stupidity of some MPs.

    1. Everhopeful
      December 12, 2021

      +1
      Well said.
      As you say..they’ll have us all down on the beaches throwing pebbles and blowing from behind our masks!!
      Meanwhile our coal sits silently underground waiting for a return to sanity.

    2. Ian Wragg
      December 12, 2021

      Ratcliffe power station is still scheduled to be shut down next year despite the chronic lack of generation.
      Scotland this week blew up Longgannet.
      It is difficult to imagine such self harm and stupidity inflicted on us by a non tory government.
      Every news bulletin from the Brussels Broadcasting Company tells us we need to save the NHS and the shows us deaths and hospital admissions falling.
      Then we have Gove wanting to inflict plan C.

      1. Micky Taking
        December 12, 2021

        all taking us (kicking and screaming) past the point of no return…

      2. lifelogic
        December 12, 2021

        +1

      3. glen cullen
        December 12, 2021

        Half the people in Grampian still without power and they blow up Longgannet ….madness
        And their power backup of wood burning stoves, and diesel generators to be banned in the future folly of net zero

      4. ukretired123
        December 12, 2021

        Blowing up the huge modern chimney for an SNP photo shoot Nicola S reminded me of Kim pressing the button of his latest rocket launch only this time coinciding with the decision to poo-poo (Remember it’s our Scottish ) Oil is self-harm to spite face.
        Venezuela without the sun beckons…..

      5. Everhopeful
        December 12, 2021

        +1

    3. Nig l
      December 12, 2021

      I wonder whose stupid when we have big tidal runs twice or four times a day?

      1. lifelogic
        December 12, 2021

        Wave power she said not “tidal” energy! Waves are essentially the product of wind unless you drop rocks in the water, set of explosions or something similar. But tidal is not on demand either you have to use it between high and low tides or it is wasted, it is very expensive to collect and maintain, the reservoir areas silt up and neap tides give far, far less energy than spring ones do.

        1. dixie
          December 13, 2021

          You are correct about tidal vs wave though there are numerous locations, the UK has around 20, where you can use tidal flow generators without the need for reservoirs.

      2. John Hatfield
        December 12, 2021

        who’s stupid?

      3. Ian Wragg
        December 12, 2021

        Tide only produces power in a parabolic curve from zero at slack tide to max at rip tide.
        Turbine blade erosion is serious as is silting up the barriers.
        It is expensive and that’s why the Severn estuary project was abandoned because the contractors wanted a guaranteed £150 per mw for 50 years

        1. dixie
          December 13, 2021

          Accepting maintenance and intermittency, you don’t need a tidal barrage to capture the energy, there are many spots around the UK where tidal flow is available.
          If we have insufficient local storage and all our gas an oil is imported then that energy can be interrupted so could also be intermittent and isn’t really on demand either, is it?

    4. Peter
      December 12, 2021

      ‘On the whole the news conferences stuck to a routine of presenting figures for cases, hospital admissions and deaths, and forecasts of grim news to come, followed by announcements and comments on various lockdown policies being followed. ’

      Fear, slogans and clapping for the NHS suit their purposes better than offering detailed outlines of what they are doing as hostages to potential critics.

      It is no different to the two sentence reply you recently received to your parliamentary question on the NHS. ‘Keep em in the dark’ is the approach.

    5. DavidJ
      December 12, 2021

      +1

  2. lifelogic
    December 12, 2021

    Does the new Chief Executive of the NHS really thinks using GPs to do vaccine jabs is the best way to use these very expensively trained and experience doctors when so many people cannot even get to see a GP when they need to? If not why on earth are they doing this?

    This when almost anyone on perhaps £14 per hour could do the jabs after about 30 mins of training? Seems hugely inefficient & idiotic to me.

    1. Everhopeful
      December 12, 2021

      +1
      This puzzled me too especially in the face of the “backlog”.
      But I did wonder if there was now trouble recruiting firemen and the like to do the jabbing because of various adverse reports.
      I certainly would fear personal liability. ( Are Drs covered anyway?).
      And of course no one can trust the govt. to carry cans!

      Didn’t Drs refuse to do it at first? Not sure.

      1. Micky Taking
        December 12, 2021

        that wouldn’t be part of their contract with the surgery group. Hence a fat fee for each jab they do.

        1. Everhopeful
          December 12, 2021

          +1
          Thanks.
          But how do they get the time off to do the jabbing?
          Isn’t it almost “moonlighting”?

    2. Mick
      December 12, 2021

      Exactly, it’s not rocket science to put a jab into someone arm but these GPs are fleecing the NHS to increase there bank balance, tell me why I can visit the dentist but to see a GP is like trying to get a audience with the Queen, it’s time to hit them were it hurts and cut the funding to them if they refuse to meet there obligations to see there patients

      1. Dave Andrews
        December 12, 2021

        I think there is a shortage of dentists in some areas as well.
        There is a general shortage of GPs (many vacancies in our area) which is probably the main reason for the difficulty in getting an appointment. I expect this problem to continue and get worse, with young people progressively kept in the dark about the world of work.

        1. alan jutson
          December 12, 2021

          Dave A

          Yes the pension cap was the last straw for many GP’s, so they retired

          1. Micky Taking
            December 12, 2021

            They could afford to on their salaries – and many went 3 days a week at home.
            Whats not to like?

          2. lifelogic
            December 13, 2021

            Indeed the NHS is a rather poor employer of medical staff too.

    3. BOF
      December 12, 2021

      Yes LL, especially when there is a huge debate to be had, about whether the vaccinations are even working, in the knowledge that nearly as many people are contracting Corona virus among the vaccinated as among the unvaccinated. That and the greatly reduced time that the jabs are effective.

      1. Everhopeful
        December 12, 2021

        +1

      2. Nig l
        December 12, 2021

        The only debate is anti vaxxers scrambling to justify their positions. Plenty of evidence that it reduces the effects when infected, less mortalities etc.

        What they won’t do and it was never claimed they did, is give total protection from catching it.

        1. beresford
          December 12, 2021

          No evidence as to the long-term effects as the jabs have not completed clinical trials. It took five years for the problems with Pandemrix to become apparent.

          1. DavidJ
            December 12, 2021

            +1

      3. lifelogic
        December 13, 2021

        The vaccine is clearly not working particularly well though it does (for older people anyway) seem to be rather better than nothing.

    4. TIM HUTCH
      December 12, 2021

      Great point, I saw my GP at the vaccination clinic today. With undetected illnesses (including cancer) soaring, why isn’t he seeing non-Covid patients?

      1. lifelogic
        December 13, 2021

        +1 it is hugely wasteful and surely idiotic to use GPs to do the jabbing when there is such a huge backlog of GP appointments and NHS waiting lists which is killing many people.

  3. Everhopeful
    December 12, 2021

    Yes but didn’t every single country stupid enough to go along with all this follow the same plan? Overseen by someone ( or a group) that all the leaders seem to fear to the brink of insanity?
    We abandoned our previous “pandemic” plan and destroyed the country.
    And yet the leaders have shown no fear of the actual virus…right from the start.
    It is all too odd.
    And look now…they are at it again.
    End of hospitality industry for good this time.

    1. Brian Tomkinson
      December 12, 2021

      It has been clear for a long time that there is an objective that governments must achieve which is nothing to do with a virus but will mean enslaving people in ways that would never be accepted through the normal democratic process of inform and consent.

      1. Donna
        December 12, 2021

        Correct. This is no longer about a Low Consequence Infectious Disease, with a mortality rate of 0.2% …… if it ever was.

        It’s about CONTROL.

        1. lifelogic
          December 12, 2021

          +1 – control, huge sums of money & crony capitalism of course. They will soon want everyone to be vaccinated every week and Covid tested every few hours at this rate!

        2. Jim Whitehead
          December 12, 2021

          Donna, +1 , short, pithy, and I believe that time will reveal the accuracy of your statement, even if it takes 75 years.

      2. Everhopeful
        December 12, 2021

        +1
        Yup.
        Very, very clear!

      3. Lifelogic
        December 12, 2021

        Indeed and Starmer’s Labour alas support it.

      4. Donna
        December 12, 2021

        The EU has had a plan for Vaccine Passports since before 2018, as this timeline of implementation demonstrates. 2022 is the date for a common vaccination passport …… and the British Establishment has obviously decided we must be part of it, regardless of Brexit. This has nothing to do with a virus and everything to do with digital ID; monitoring of the population and control.

        https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

        1. Everhopeful
          December 12, 2021

          +1
          Thanks for that!
          How they all bloody well LIE to us!

        2. Jim Whitehead
          December 12, 2021

          Donna, that’s astonishing, and that’s my comment as one who has already seen various videos disclosing such earlier suspicious plans and manipulations.

        3. glen cullen
          December 12, 2021

          +1
          We need to fear this development….and question why our own government isn’t telling us

      5. DavidJ
        December 12, 2021

        Indeed Brian. All to satisfy their globalist leaders.

    2. Nig l
      December 12, 2021

      And of course you can make such claims because they have no consequences. If you were in a position of great authority these cliches might not trip off the tongue so easily.

    3. glen cullen
      December 12, 2021

      Spot On

    4. alan jutson
      December 12, 2021

      Am I the only one who is now sick to the back teeth of all this speculation about the virus, what works what doesn’t work, masks, passports, parties, and all the rest of the daily ever changing speculation. etc etc.
      I now have three jabs, I have a home testing kit to use as I choose, I also choose where I go, and who I mix with, out of choice I do not use public transport,
      If I take a home test I do not bother to report a negative result to the NHS website, because it takes too much time, is a pain in the a..e, and what is the point.
      I no longer use the Covid Test and Trace App as it is far too general and riddled with errors, Family members being Pinged when their neighbours had Covid on the other side of a Party Wall. !
      I take what I consider sensible precautions when I go out, and wear a face covering when inside crowded indoor areas, etc.
      The Government cannot control us for ever, the information is available, the jabs are available, the tests are available, information is available, soap is available, masks are available, anti bacterial gel is available, shopping can be done on line, leave us alone to get on with it !

      As for bloody parties and zoom quizzes, 10 Downing Street is big office, that just happens to have the PM’s expensively decorated flat above it, of course a lot of people work there, and they are in close proximity to other fellow workers, thank goodness they are not working from home, given the poor service many companies are now giving their customers, as the Government performance is poor enough already.

    5. No Longer Anonymous
      December 12, 2021

      Everhopeful – I have tried my very best to help the hospitality industry, that includes sitting in a draughty pub with the doors wide open for ventilation on a cold winter’s night…. or standing outside in the rain with my pint. And by giving generous tips to every young lad and lass serving me my food and drinks at the table.

      But now I give up.

      The sooner this country looks like the misery laden Soviet style, Eastern European dump that it is the sooner people will get the message that the Tories need to be crushed out of existence – they are worse than being no good.

      By the next general election the outlook will be bleak. Dead towns and high streets and the prospect of no cars and only lukewarm heat pumps for those that can afford them.

      Foisted on us by etc ed

      1. No Longer Anonymous
        December 12, 2021

        Wot’s wrong with this post, Sir John ???

  4. MPC
    December 12, 2021

    Lets not forget also that the Government abandoned early, its established and balanced pandemic plan on the apocalyptic advice of Prof Neil Ferguson and others. Their current claims of Armageddon from this latest variant ring very hollow with most people.

    1. Micky Taking
      December 12, 2021

      what established and balanced plan? The Risk Assessment had millions and millions of out of date masks etc. No ‘monthly’ meet to check no threat building or emerging to be considered in the Assessment.
      Any business (how many £ billions?) would have auditors jumping up and down threatening to pull out.

    2. Julian Flood
      December 12, 2021

      It’s the Behavioural Insights Team trying to get a final push for the booster. The government is doing what it’s told, as always, and not listening to anything other than the team which has failed time and time again.

      The reports about the OhmiGod (sorry, sorry) variant suggest that it is safe enough to be left to induce natural immunity in the whole population, jabbed or not, but we need to see the data on that. If it turns out to be as mild as first reports suggest then the example of measles parties from the days before the very effective measles vaccine can be followed. Number 10 can then lead by example, not by enforcement — compulsory Omicron parties might appeal to Mr Gove but not to anyone who can see the anger building up at all levels, even in the Commons.

      JF

  5. Everhopeful
    December 12, 2021

    Methods of infection control other than the jab have been cancelled. ( Why? Can’t think!)
    Wiped from social media.
    Remember when Trump, right from the start, mentioned them?
    Not just no discussion but total censorship.
    “Shovel it into their unresisting arms” as ODL more or less says at every possible opportunity.
    Why?

  6. Everhopeful
    December 12, 2021

    Does our ever rising population help with the strain on the NHS?

    1. Ian Wragg
      December 12, 2021

      No, they’re all doctors, dentists and scientists with their own accommodation.
      Keep up.

      1. Everhopeful
        December 12, 2021

        +1
        Darn!
        My memory!!🤭

      2. Micky Taking
        December 12, 2021

        Andy says so !

  7. Andy
    December 12, 2021

    Advisers advise. Ministers decide.

    Your questions about our appalling handling of the pandemic need to go to the Brexitist ministers who are running the country.*

    * when they are not having a party.

    1. Donna
      December 12, 2021

      The wooden plank leading Labour could have stopped it on a number of occasions ….. but didn’t.

      But then lefties have always been authoritarians who believe they have a right to control the plebs. The novelty is that now so-called Conservatives seem to as well.

    2. No Longer Anonymous
      December 12, 2021

      Oh. Brexit.

      Yup.

      Well lots of other countries including France and Germany have ballsed up in this crisis too.

      Stratton is a Remain voting Blairite.

      She clearly doesn’t believe in the Covid measures either.

    3. DavidJ
      December 12, 2021

      -1

    4. No Longer Anonymous
      December 12, 2021

      A reminder.

      Andy never has and never will vote Tory.

  8. Sakara Gold
    December 12, 2021

    The whole effort was a bloody shambles from the begining. Johnson, Hancock & Whitty were fixated on Vallance’s now completely discredited “herd immunity” strategy. Everybody knows that the government cocked-up bigtime, starting with refusing to close the borders effectively in January 2020. This is why Johnson has repeatedly refused the urgent “lessons learnt” inquiry that many have demanded. He is personally culpable, along with Schwraps, Patel, Hancock, Harding and the others in his cabinet who played politics and sat on their hands while the virus ripped through the nation.

    Reply Early action to stop flights this time did not stop Omicron

    1. Sir Joe Soap
      December 12, 2021

      reply to reply Neither early enough nor comprehensive enough. Half-hearted cock-up. cf Australia, NZ. Also how many dinghies arrived here compared to Australia that week?

      1. Dave Andrews
        December 12, 2021

        Very small risk of infection coming in by the dinghy people, they aren’t going to come into contact with Covid except for visits from journalists, human rights activists or minor celebrities for a photo-op.

    2. Donna
      December 12, 2021

      I believe Neil Ferguson has suggested that it was seeded in Scotland by delegates to the COP26 Boondoggle ….. who were exempted from any kind of anti-virus restrictions.

      Still ….. the Globalists and Eco Lunatic Elite were able to have their extended two-week party and opportunity to lecture the plebs, so that must make it ok.

    3. Mike Wilson
      December 12, 2021

      Early action to stop flights this time did not stop Omicron

      Because only flights from a few countries were halted. And, even if you banned all flights it would be too late. Millions of people fly from one country to another every day. Any virus will always cause a global pandemic while we live as we do.

    4. Micky Taking
      December 12, 2021

      but it hasn’t killed >140,000 – — yet.

  9. Norman
    December 12, 2021

    Brilliant, Sir John. You have raised some very good questions in a politically acceptable manner. You would probably not want to ask why the MHRA yellow card system, which has so far logged over a million potential adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines, including over 1,800 deaths in the UK alone, have apparently not been followed-up and reported upon. I do know of examples. These include a steady trickle of super-fit young athletes and sports people.
    There are some questions that simply get you de-platformed, whoever you are. The disgraceful distortions and lies that the ‘bought’ MSM have churned out are what is fuelling a large rump of vaccine refusals. Whilst I do have some sympathy for Boris, there has been a significant breakdown in trust across the world, due to this so-called science-led, totalitarian governmental mode.
    Being well versed in infection control, I do take sensible precautions, especially for the sake of others (as I would for ‘flu or even the common cold).
    However, many do not understand how politicized and biased scientists can be, especially in the biological field. I speak from experience.

    1. Peter Wood
      December 12, 2021

      Yours is the first I’ve seen, apart from on Conservative Woman, asking ‘what about the adverse reactions data’. 3 jabs better than 2…..4 jabs better than… We are in dangerous territory.

      1. Donna
        December 12, 2021

        Japan has added the risk of Myocarditis to the possible adverse effects of the Pfizer jab, so those receiving it are giving Informed Consent.

        And the British Government has quietly issued guidance to Healthcare Professionals on the risk of Myocarditis and Pericarditis …. specifically noting that “the long-term consequences of this condition secondary to vaccination are yet unknown, so any screening recommendations need to be balanced against the frequency and severity of the disease with the aim to prevent complications, in particular of myocarditis (arrhythmias, long term myocardial damage or heart failure)”

        Meanwhile, Ministers continue to repeat the mantra that the “vaccines” are safe and effective …. and now the PM wants a discussion about mandatory “vaccination” with products they know can have serious side effects and have no long-term safety data.

        https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination-guidance-for-healthcare-professionals

    2. Christine
      December 12, 2021

      I’m glad your post on this subject managed to get through moderation as mine posted the other day was deleted. I was only highlighting actual data on adverse effects published, albeit forced by the US courts, by one particular vaccine manufacturer (who I won’t name because I expect this is why my post was deleted).

      I asked the same question about the Yellow Card system. Why are people not being told to report adverse effects? Why are three times more women reporting side effects? Why are we seeing this in the younger age groups particularly fit athletic people?

      I was listening to an Israeli doctor who said he was seeing an increasing number of young, fit patients presenting with neurological problems following vaccination. We know Israel is ahead of us and up to its fourth vaccine shot.

      I am interested in this data as my own daughter was rushed into hospital following her booster. As an NHS worker, she took the vaccine early so is at the younger end for receiving the booster. We need urgent investigation before more young people are damaged. What we don’t need is for these valid discussions to be censored just because it may put some people off getting the vaccine.

  10. PeteB
    December 12, 2021

    Yesterday you stated you’d raise some of the important questions that didn’t get answered in the briefing sessions. You have picked up a number of relevant, but detailed points today.

    What about the key strategic points that still need answering, I repeat:

    1. Why was no cost benefit analysis carried out at any stage?
    2. Why did we not operate quarantine and clean hospitals?
    3. Why persist with lockdowns and masks when there is no evidence they work reliably?

    If such points are not addressed in the promised enquiry then you have failed in your job to challenge government.

    1. matthu
      December 12, 2021

      Let me start by saying that I 100% agree with you that lockdowns and masks have not been shown to be effective and are likely counter-productive particularly against a rapidly spreading virus with few to no symptoms.

      But imagine the outrage if these measures had not been introduced. Outrage which may even have resulted in Boris’s replacement by somebody even worse (I mean, the choice is not great!).

      Boris’s best way forward now is to gather a circle of scientists who can articulate exactly why these measures are not ineffective and counter-productive, make the case to the public and then emphatically rescind those measures.

      1. matthu
        December 12, 2021

        I meant to say “gather a circle of scientists who can articulate exactly why these measures are ineffective and likely counter-productive“!

        1. Micky Taking
          December 12, 2021

          Johnson clearly is pulling the strings of the ‘circle of scientists’.

        2. dixie
          December 13, 2021

          Why would anyone give any credence to a group of politically selected scientists?
          What we need is a congress of independent specialists untainted by political or commercial interests … but that would be impossible.

      2. PeteB
        December 12, 2021

        Noted Matthu, the lockdown was presented as ‘saving the NHS’ (an oxymoron in itself) although it was really ‘prevent pictures of NHS overload, as that would be translated to “Tories destroy health service” in the media.

        What I’m asking for is a proper debate on these questions now, with the evidence behind us so we don’t repeat such catastrophic mistakes in the future.

        lockdownsceptic.org is worth a look for all those who doubt the direction of travel.

      3. Zorro
        December 12, 2021

        He’s had plenty of time to do that, but clearly cannot be bothered. If he can’t stand up to left wing blowhards, what is the point in him? Has he condemned Michie the Communist yet? No!

        Zorro

      4. R.Grange
        December 12, 2021

        That’s more than his job’s worth, I’m afraid, Matthu. He’s supposed to ignore the many scientists who would tell him what you’re saying. His job is to listen only to the approved ones from universities funded by the Pharma billionaires’ foundations.

        1. DavidJ
          December 12, 2021

          +1

        2. Paul Cuthbertson
          December 12, 2021

          R.G – Follow the money

    2. Richard II
      December 12, 2021

      PeteB – Surely the problem Sir John and other MPs face, with your questions and similar ones, is that if they put them to the government, they just get worthless answers. If questions are ever put to the ‘expert advisers’ by the tame media, they’re just softball questions that can be batted away easily. The only way forward is via a change in public opinion, for more and more people to notice the gap between the official narrative and the reality on the ground. It is happening, partly thanks to GB News and other online sources that those running the news agenda can’t control yet, but we need to be wary that the government’s so-called ‘online harms’ bill won’t choke off those alternative information sources, e.g. I don’t think they want to see many more videos from Neil Oliver.

  11. SM
    December 12, 2021

    Sir John: you make excellent points about the astonishing ineptitude of Government/Party political and Civil Service advisers regarding communication with the public.

    I can’t help wondering how much it would have improved matters from the start of the pandemic had the PM and senior ministers said frankly and publicly: “we are faced with potential disasters, we have had to make fast decisions which may not be perfect when viewed in hindsight, and we ask for your co-operation. As matters develop, we may have to change procedures and we ask you to appreciate that we are dealing with a great deal of as yet unknown factors”.

    Finally, in my lengthy experience of and with the NHS, there is a pervasive mindset of ‘don’t explain and don’t apologise’, which I suggest played an important factor in the complete absence of explanations for their problems.

  12. Everhopeful
    December 12, 2021

    Wonderful interview with JR on Talk Radio yesterday discussing Plan B. Many very supportive comments.
    Also a new vid from Neil Oliver questioning our leaders’ bizarre lack of fear regarding the plague.

  13. Oldwulf
    December 12, 2021

    Sadly, the media reports of last year’s Christmas parties at Westminster means that, for many people, presentation of the current medical evidence is now irrelevant.

    No 10 can announce as many alphabetical plans as it wishes.

    1. No Longer Anonymous
      December 12, 2021

      +1

      And this exquisitely written article by Dr Raj Persaud explains why politicos think they are different.

      https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1534719/Christmas-party-scandal-Boris-Johnson-government-Raj-Persaud

      1. No Longer Anonymous
        December 12, 2021

        Thank you for publishing this, Sir John.

  14. Nig l
    December 12, 2021

    She presumably can’t handle the exposure and hasn’t got a plan. The ministers know that hence the BS smokescreens coming out about value for money, star chambers etc.

    Headless chickens springs to mind.

  15. Old Albion
    December 12, 2021

    If the bumbling buffoon thinks he’s going to destroy my Christmas again, while he Carries on (see what I did there) holding secret parties. He can think again.

    1. Donna
      December 12, 2021

      For a long time I’ve been referring to the shambles as Carry on Governing.

      I’m going to amend my spelling: Carrie on Governing seems far more appropriate.

      1. J Bush
        December 12, 2021

        Many a true word spoke in jest

      2. Micky Taking
        December 12, 2021

        – or ‘what a Carrie on’.

      3. glen cullen
        December 12, 2021

        +1

      4. Denis Cooper
        December 12, 2021

        🙂

    2. Bob Hawkes
      December 12, 2021

      I.really think the PM is looking more “Harry Flashman” than Winston Churchill everyday…

      1. Micky Taking
        December 12, 2021

        Ask yourself ‘would you buy a used car from this man?’

  16. Mark B
    December 12, 2021

    Good morning.

    Anything, or anyone, that does not support the narrative or the climate of fear is either downplayed or ignored. That is how it works.

    End of.

  17. Nig l
    December 12, 2021

    And in other news, fresh from learning that the F and CO legacy IT systems were totally unfit for purpose leading to ‘loss of life’ in Afghanistan not helped by the two alleged leaders thinking their holidays were more important than a great human tragedy we now hear that the Police National Computer System is so old that it now cannot be maintained, there not the engineers with such outdated knowledge.

    How do Ministers/Mandarins allow this crapp to happen?

    1. formula57
      December 12, 2021

      @ Nig l – Facebook and Twitter, developed and maintained at private expense, serve to replace much of the Police National Computer System.

    2. Dave Andrews
      December 12, 2021

      That sounds about right. The engineers with decades of experience finally retire and what’s left is a workforce that likes to change jobs on a regular basis, never acquiring an in-depth knowledge of anything.
      (The RSM tells me it’s the same in the NHS.)

    3. Micky Taking
      December 12, 2021

      ‘what Risk Assessment?’ – I hear massed voices cry….

      Remember when Swanwick took over from West Drayton, because the place could no longer be maintained?

  18. Hat man
    December 12, 2021

    Those news conferences are political theatre, Sir John. The only truly informative one was that practice session run by Allegra Stratton – very revealing indeed of how the government has been handling the Covid crisis.

    1. Lifelogic
      December 12, 2021

      I wonder what practice she did for the tearful resignation speech? She had of course done nothing wrong what so ever really. Even keeping her old diesel saves net CO2 over buying a new EV though she could not point this out. Doubtless a nice pay off will come to her from the very “generous” taxpayer.

      But who leaked the video and why? I assume they want to ditch Boris and put some dire remainer in.

    2. formula57
      December 12, 2021

      +1

      (But even critics would have to acknowledge there was very good use of flags.)

  19. Nig l
    December 12, 2021

    And as if things couldn’t get more rancid we now see the ‘not our fault’ No 10 operation blaming Gove (todays Mail) and of course Boris is our freedom fighter.

    I look forward to reading that it was Gove wearing a rubber Boris mask who actually attended all those No 10 parties.

  20. BOF
    December 12, 2021

    Many predictions, based on modelling, were made at these conferences. The majority were wildly inaccurate. Why were these failures never challenged by the media present and why indeed did they never ask why cheap and effective drugs were not allowed to be used to treat Covid patients. Surely many lives could have been saved.

    Many MP’s must have been aware that the modelling was a failure and that cheap and effective drugs could have been used. Now it is debateable whether the vaccines are as effective as first promised. It appears not. It seems we were failed by our representatives in Parliament as well.

    What a sad tale of all round failure!

    1. Iago
      December 12, 2021

      BOF, Anne Marie Waters has just remarked that in a communist country the media and the government are the same thing.

  21. Sir Joe Soap
    December 12, 2021

    The main problem was that the graphs were shown without adequate explanation. Why deaths after 28 days? How many of those in hospital infected caught the virus in hospital? How many died after that?
    By far the majority of us aren’t in this hospital/care home micro-system and could have kept the economy going in a normal way for those who were, who in turn could have been isolated at far lower cost in money and lives lost.

  22. Brian Tomkinson
    December 12, 2021

    Many of us were asking such questions last year as the NHS became the National Covid Service. Throughout, the government has been obsessed with controlling people’s activities and instilling fear into the population as directed by behavioural scientists. The oldest trick of tyrants through the ages – instil fear and then provide reassurance that the tyrants are their saviours if only they will do exactly as the tyrants tell them. There remains one objective behind this and it is nothing to do with control of a virus. It is about state control of people by the introduction of vaccine passports leading to a Chinese style totalitarian state. This government and most MPs, for they have been willing supporters, care nothing about the harm they have inflicted on people. That the “cure” would be worse than the disease was all so predictable but brushed aside as a “conspiracy theory”. We live in dark times for our country.

    1. DavidJ
      December 12, 2021

      +1

  23. Maylor
    December 12, 2021

    Thank you, Sir John for raising issues which appear to be ‘no go’ territory for most politicians/medics/scientists and the MSM.

    Unless, a large proportion of Tory MPs think like you on these matters, I think your Party will suffer major losses.

    The only issue that I would like to add to the excellent points already raised is ;

    whether the Johnson government is being deliberately or unintentionally incompetent .

    They have made a difficult situation so much worse by creating an atmosphere of terror, by actions which deliberately led to many deaths in the care homes, by the indiscriminate use of ventilators and by withholding drugs which could have helped.

    They have ignored advice from specialists which did not suit their vaccine policies in favour of advice from specialists with financial links to big pharma.

    We need an independent review and those found guilty need to be held to account.

    1. J Bush
      December 12, 2021

      +1
      There are also spikes in the suicide statistics and ‘unsuccessful’ suicide attempts.

      Not content with that, it would appear, the latest ‘health secretary’ is endorsing and encouraging the populace to apply spiteful fear-mongering ‘divide and rule’ tactics. This will only result in more vulnerable people being victimised, or add to the suicide stats. Is this what he wants?

      I speak from experience through supporting a vulnerable person and it is heart-rending to watch the reaction to these attacks, purely because she can’t wear a mask or have the jab for medical health reasons. But, the joe publics who take pleasure in behaving like sanctimonious thugs will not know this, nor do they have the right to know and it is incredible that a ‘health secretary’ is actively encouraging this behaviour!

      Unforgivably cruel, because I find it hard to believe Javid is that stupid he doesn’t know what he is doing, or is unaware of the harmful impact this will have.

      1. SM
        December 12, 2021

        +1

      2. Paul Cuthbertson
        December 12, 2021

        I would never trust or believe anything from Sajiv Javid.

    2. Bill B.
      December 12, 2021

      +1

    3. formula57
      December 12, 2021

      @ Maylor “Thank you, Sir John for raising issues which appear to be ‘no go’ territory for most politicians/medics/scientists and the MSM.” – +1

      Sir John is the real leader of the opposition.

      1. Micky Taking
        December 13, 2021

        and he is reloading the double-barrels most days lately. The light, or rather the gloom of this government is dawning on him bigtime!

  24. Oldtimer
    December 12, 2021

    Alternatively the whole setup could be seen as an exercise in mushroom management where we are the mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed a diet of manure. Such an approach served several purposes. It helped promote the climate of fear, it helped suppress demands for more informed analysis of the pandemic and potential solutions, it helped conceal bad decisions in managing NHS resources. For those running the operation it was a winning formula. Why wouldn’t they want to stick with it regardless of the consequences for the rest of us?

  25. Donna
    December 12, 2021

    (Some people Ed)saw a marvellous opportunity to expand their influence, punish a Brexit-supporting Government they despise and increase their funding (as well as substantially enrich many of them who have portfolios which include shares in Big Pharma).

    It is not in their interests to see the Scamdemic come to an end. So it won’t. Not until our so-called Representatives in Parliament make it come to an end ……. or WE do, by refusing to comply with their illogical and ineffective rules.

    In the end it all comes back to Parliament. We live in a sham democracy, where we are presented with two parties to choose between ….. both of which are now stuffed with young MPs, very few of whom have much experience of the world most of us live in, let alone have done anything meaningful with their lives before they chose politics as a “career.” These nodding dog MPs endorsed the policies of SAGE/NHS and Johnson ….. and most have barely raised a murmur about the devastating impact on the economy, society or the vulnerable.

    1. Paul Cuthbertson
      December 12, 2021

      Spot on Donna – Career politicians and there are 650 of them. The whole system has to changed, from the very top down. Just remember we are all subjects of whom…..

  26. DOM
    December 12, 2021

    Coronavirus is merely the ammunition. The State the revolver. Human freedom from the State is the target. Welcome to totalitarianism

    I note the cretinous, evil Law Commission’s new recommendations regarding normal human behaviour. It seems our elected representatives now intend to implement such barbarity to control ‘private conversations’. Yes, that we have arrived at such a juncture is an indictment of all parties and all MPs and all those activists, agitators and lobby groups who seek to punish those with unpalatable identities

    The NHS is an irrelevance in the greater scheme of things.

    1. Martyn G
      December 12, 2021

      I think you are right Dom. Something I saw elsewhere made my wonder just what has been going on since the start. In fact it pretty much confirmed my views early into the first lockdown that there was too much fear being projected by government and its medical advisors in a way that was as anti-British behaviour in a way hard to conceive.
      The ONS figures for ‘Age-standardised mortality rates, deaths per 100,000 of population, England and Wales’ show little change in the numbers of death between 2008 and 2020, so why the lockdown in 2020?
      Interestingly, every year since 1942 recorded a significantly higher death toll than in 2020. Think of things like the huge Flu epidemics that happened over those years and other nationwide health issues causing substantial numbers of deaths.
      Governments in the past didn’t panic, didn’t create mass fear in the population, didn’t lock us down and introduce compulsory mask wearing or prevent us from seeing our dying relatives – or prevent us holding proper funerals. There were no hysterical briefings with an endless series of largely unfathomable grass and charts and governments certainly didn’t crash the economy with the destruction of so many businesses.
      Conclusion? What has happened has little to do with the new virus but it is hard to conceive as to what the real purpose is. That said, what is happening elsewhere with segregating the population – those with and those without vaccination, has sinister overtones that I would not be surprised to see happening here.

    2. DavidJ
      December 12, 2021

      +1

    3. No Longer Anonymous
      December 12, 2021

      Bang on. But the NHS has become the industrial wing of the Labour movement.

    4. forthurst
      December 13, 2021

      Why was the Law Commission permitted to send out questionnaires on how thoughcrime law could be expanded? Were they all sent to North London? It’s about time people woke up before they vote us into a Bolshevist state.

  27. Iain Moore
    December 12, 2021

    How can a booster vaccine be a booster vaccine when it is a completely different vaccine type? Having another AZ vaccine would be a booster, but a Pfizer on top of AZ is nota booster. Then there are questions about what we are being told . In South Africa they say a course of Pfizer gives 23% symptomatic protection against Omicron , but here they say one dose of Pfizer gives 75% , there is a 50% credibility gap here.

  28. James Bertram
    December 12, 2021

    ‘They did not however see fit to give us presentations about work on finding drugs that could abate symptoms or avert serious developments in a covid patient.’

    That’s because they already have the drugs to do this; the problem is that doctor’s will lose their licence if they use them, and the public are not allowed to buy them. These drugs are hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. Japan eliminated Covid-19 in 6 weeks by the use of ivermectin (see Dr John Campbell ‘ivermectin in Japan’ youtube video 23rd November 2021); and similarly Uttar Pradesh did similarly back in June.

    The government is not concerned about the public’s health; they have a different agenda entirely.

    1. Donna
      December 12, 2021

      In the UK, emergency authorisation of an experimental product can only be authorised if there is no existing, licensed treatment. So in order to keep using the “vaccines” in the UK it was important that there was no alternative treatment available, hence the refusal to permit Ivermectin.

      In Thailand they are using a herb, Green Chiretta, to treat people with mild Covid. The herb is a traditional medicine for respiratory illnesses. The Thai medics trialled it on inmates in prison (so effectively a closed society) and it worked so they are now carrying out more extensive trials.

  29. Bryan Harris
    December 12, 2021

    Excellent – Pertinent comments and questions.

    I would also ask;

    – why are they trying to scare people by suggesting omicron is deadly, when it hasn’t killed anyone?
    – why do we never get views from experts that do not support the authorities narrative?
    – why is there no balance, no other options available?
    – why are we still spending £billions on future vaccine supplies, when it is evident that the vaccines have failed miserably and we should be boosting immune systems instead?

  30. Iain Gill
    December 12, 2021

    All good questions John.

    Why is parliament not given answers to these?

  31. Roy Grainger
    December 12, 2021

    I believe one action the NHS took during the pandemic was to remove 5000 beds to assist with infection control ?

    There will be a spike in Omicron deaths simply because people in hospital with other conditions will catch it. This will be used to justify non-hospital restrictions.

    1. Denis Cooper
      December 12, 2021

      From what is being said about its transmissibility it will be very difficult to contain it within designated units.

  32. Original Richard
    December 12, 2021

    “The Chief Executive of the NHS was rarely present at the news conferences to present the actions being taken to handle the pandemic. That was a pity….”

    Absolutely correct.

    I no longer believe that “advisers advise, ministers decide”.

    It is quite clear that our elected representatives, Government MPs, are not in control, even of their own declared policies.

    The press conferences should now be given by the heads of the civil service departments or institutions and our elected representative, the Minister, should be asking the questions on our behalf, such as those you have listed for the NHS, and sacking those department heads who are found to be either incompetent or refusing to implement policy.

  33. Iago
    December 12, 2021

    Yes, rather late.
    And the adverse effects of the Covid 19 vaccines are never mentioned by the politicians.

  34. Sakara Gold
    December 12, 2021

    @Sir John
    Omicron probably got here during Cop26, when hundreds of foreigners flew in with no requirement for testing negative or quarantine. It is curious that neither Putin or Xi found time to attend – the uncharitable might ask why?

  35. Everhopeful
    December 12, 2021

    I wonder how they test for omicron (!) ?
    Probably by reducing the markers “needed” to get a positive covid? Three reduced to two no doubt.
    A bit like Cinderella’s wicked stepmother cutting off toes to make the glass ( or fur) slipper fit!

    1. Everhopeful
      December 12, 2021

      I have every confidence that both advisers and the advised are scrutinising the reported adverse effects of the jabs?
      Carefully.

    2. hefner
      December 12, 2021

      By sequencing the swab obtained in a PCR test, i.e., checking specific segments of the DNA present on the test.

      1. forthurst
        December 12, 2021

        There is no specific test for Omicron; if the PCR test is positive for only two out of the three markers for Covid, then it is inferred that the subject has Omicron; if three markers are considered necessary for a positive diagnosis then, there needs to be another PCR test that can test for the altered DNA sequence as well as the variants that worked originally.

  36. No Longer Anonymous
    December 12, 2021

    Yes, Sir John. Bearing in mind that the rest of the economy is slowly being strangled to Save the NHS you’d hope to hear that the NHS itself was doing its utmost to save itself.

    And rarely – if ever at all – do we hear alternative views to the offical Sage position of doom and gloom on this virus.

    Boris is compromised. He is surrounded by Marxists – he can’t even get away from it in his bedroom. They have dirt on him for when he doesn’t behave. (Why the release of the Stratton video at this moment ?)

    This has become Operation Destroy Capitalism throughout the West.

    This is the way the Left get all the power whilst losing all the votes and I have told you time and again that no vaccine, no lockdown, no measure would ever be good enough.

    I fail to see why we won’t be facing the same misery next Christmas and the Christmas after… Sage are already talking in 5-year-plans (how very Communist) and this is clearly about making the country ungovernable in any Conservative way.

  37. Christine
    December 12, 2021

    Do we really want some NHS executive on our TVs who can’t even get the basic figures correct? I’m getting tired of all the threats and scaremongering. What we need is an unbiased person to look at the vast amounts of data coming out of South Africa and give an assessment of the risk from Omicron.

    We need to know how many people are being rushed into hospital because of adverse effects from the vaccine. How many people are there because other serious illnesses haven’t been treated during the pandemic? The problem is that statistics can be twisted to suit the narrative this Government wants to portray when they don’t relate to the real facts. Being admitted to hospital or dying with Covid is not the same as from Covid.

    Surely we now have plenty of data on how to effectively treat Covid? It’s true what people are saying in that the NHS has become the National Covid Service.

    Locking us up isn’t the answer. You cannot stop Omicron as it’s highly transmissible but we do need to prepare people for it by preparing their terrain with zinc, vitamin D and C, etc ed

  38. Barbara
    December 12, 2021

    Thank you for taking this up and running with it, Sir John. It takes vision, focus and courage – attributes which seem to be sadly lacking in our media and ministers at the moment.

    We also are told by govt that, in addition to closing the Nightingales, the NHS downsized by 5,000 beds during the ‘so called’ pandemic.

    Why?

    1. Martyn G
      December 12, 2021

      Well Barbara, the number of hospital beds has been halved over the past 30 year, despite the population increasing by around 10 million over the years. And no one seems to know why.

      1. Micky Taking
        December 12, 2021

        Matron used to run several wards, with fewer staff, and some changed beds, fed patients, brought bedpans. We had lots of beds.
        Now we have fewer beds and degree qualified ‘nurses’ who take blood pressure and temp – then spend hours updating numbers on computers. Instead of matron we have at least 6 vertical Line managers, who review the data, decide the ‘story’ and pass it up the line of ‘command’.

  39. X-Tory
    December 12, 2021

    The way the NHS has handled this pandemic has been – and continues to be – an absolute disgrace. Even now, over 18 months after the beginning of this problem, hospitals STILL haven’t been fitted with UV air filters, and treatments (which have been identified in studies) are STILL not available at GP surgeries! But ultimate responsibility, of course, rests with the government, and under this administration we seem to have regressed to a third-world country.

    It is not for want of spending, either. Just think how much money has been thrown at nonsense such as ‘test and trace’, or furlough support, for instance. Billions, all wasted. Back in January I posted here pointing out that NICE calculates the value-for-money of treatments by using a measure known as ‘quality adjusted life years’, and authorises a maximum of £30,000 per QALY. Ministers have never revealed how much they have spent per QALY for covid, but a year ago it was already up to £1 MILLION, so by now I expect it is double this! The government has gone completely mad.

  40. Denis Cooper
    December 12, 2021

    Off topic, Liz Truss says that she has changed her mind about Brexit:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1534923/Liz-Truss-Brexit-news-international-trade-deals-UK-Trans-Pacific-Partnership-vn

    so let’s have her as Prime Minister instead of the Great Charlatan.

    But first she should publicly, solemnly, pledge that she will reverse Boris Johnson’s crass betrayal and bring Northern Ireland fully back within the folds of the United Kingdom, completely free from foreign – that is to say, EU – dominion, even if that costs us a little in terms of tariffs imposed on our exports to the EU.

    https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/economy-finance/ip144_en_1.pdf

    “For the EU on average, the exit of the UK from the European Union on FTA terms is estimated to generate an output loss of around ½ % of GDP by the end of 2022, and some 2 ¼ % point for the UK. Compared to the ‘WTO assumption’ that was modelled in the Autumn forecast, the EU-UK FTA reduces this negative impact for the EU on average by about 1/3 and for the UK by about 1/4. Whereas the FTA sets tariffs and quotas on goods at zero, there is a significant increase in NTBs for both goods and services. Member States with a higher share of goods trade with the UK therefore benefit relatively speaking more from the FTA than those with a higher share of trade in services. In sum, while the FTA improves the situation as compared to an outcome with no trade agreement between the EU and the UK, it cannot come close to matching the benefits of the trading relations provided by EU membership.”

    Therefore the benefit to the UK of the free trade agreement, FTA, would be 2.25% of GDP divided by 3 = 0.75% of GDP.

    On the EU’s model, for what it is worth, leaving on basic WTO terms without a special FTA would have cost the UK 3.00% of GDP in the long term, but the FTA will retrieve one quarter of that, 0.75% of GDP, equivalent to £16 billion a year.”

    1. Dave Andrews
      December 12, 2021

      It’s still small beer compared with government waste.

    2. Derek Henry
      December 12, 2021

      Dennis

      Why did we cave in on fishing to the French ?

      Have we really taken back control on fishing ?

      Why did we give out 81 licences and not refuse to give out any ?

      1. glen cullen
        December 12, 2021

        We have NO backbone and some elites want the re-entry ticket to the EU

  41. DOM
    December 12, 2021

    All they want for Christmas is a death by Omicron or maybe a death with someone infected by it……that’s how low have fallen that there are public sector and State apparatchiks who pray for someone to die of one of the variants to justify further controls and all in the name of public health

    They weren’t so concerned about deaths at Mid_Staffs

    1. No Longer Anonymous
      December 12, 2021

      +1

    2. beresford
      December 12, 2021

      +1

  42. beresford
    December 12, 2021

    Meanwhile, data from articles on the ‘Daily Sceptic’ site show that per capita covid ‘cases’ and deaths in England, Scotland and Wales are virtually identical despite the latter two having had ‘Plan B’ restrictions for six months or so. Also ‘cases’ have soared in France, Germany, Ireland and Italy since ‘vaccine passports’ were introduced.

  43. glen cullen
    December 12, 2021

    BBC website – ”The first people in the UK are in hospital with Omicron infections, Nadhim Zahawi MP has said.”
    But where are these people, which hospital, how many……there’s no further update to this report from Education Secrectary Nadhim Zahawi MP anywhere ??? Is this story accurate ???

    1. Paul Cuthbertson
      December 12, 2021

      GC – Two things – You mention the BBC and then Nadhim Zahawi. Do you really believe anything from these two (and many more)?

      1. glen cullen
        December 12, 2021

        I’ve been researching all day and I still can’t find any information regarding the people who have been admitted to a hospital due to omicron….can anyone enlighten me

        1. Micky Taking
          December 13, 2021

          Which hospitals, how many admitted, ICU or ward beds?
          It really is about time the NHS provided the truth.

  44. Sakara Gold
    December 12, 2021

    The spreadbetting firms are giving odds of 15/1 that Johnson will lose his job after the North Shropshire by-election. The political Whatsapp group that I belong to was in overdrive today, discussing who could win a leadership election

    Priti Patel – the hang ’em and flog ’em even if they are innocent candidate. Has failed to stem the tremendous number of illegal migrants and has enraged those who hold dear the right to protest. Has presided over a rapid increase in police numbers by bringing in officers of dubious moral character and honesty. No hope.

    Liz Truss – the common sense candidate. Has risen rapidly to Foreign Secretary by deposing the misogynist Dominic Raab. Was recently filmed riding a foreign tank (Wallace has scrapped most of ours) like Thatcher but prone to threatening the Russians. Could make the cut

    Jeremy Hunt – the political survivor candidate. Not a self-made man, he inherited most of his wealth. The longest running SoS Health ever. A safe pair of hands, has courage and stood against Johnson last time. Still ambitious, has adroitly expanded his popularity with grassroots MP’s. A front runner

    Dominic Raab – the too clever by half candidate. Prone to taking holidays during military crises. No hope

    Michael Gove – the mid-life crisis candidate. Has taken up clubbing and has lost a lot of weight. Completely untrustworthy. No hope

    Rishi Sunak – the “I scrapped the triple lock” candidate. Fabulously wealthy, his family own more gold than the BoE. Has printed more money than any other Chancellor in history, intends to soak the working poor and the pensioners pay for it. Wildly popular with the electorate after giving them two years off work on 80% of salary. The man to beat.

    Oddschecker.com are giving Sunak 9/4 as the favourite. Curiously, Sir Kier Starmer has odds of 4/1 ….!!

    1. glen cullen
      December 12, 2021

      I’ve just checked with oddschecker
      ‘British Politics – Boris Johnson Exit Date Betting Odds’
      2021 – 8/1, 2022 – 1/1, 2023 – 7/1, 2024 or later – 7/4
      Its worth a punt….I might even make enough to cover the higher energy & tax costs

    2. Derek Henry
      December 12, 2021

      Sakara,

      Hope you are well…

      How on earth are the working poor and pensioners going to pay for it?

      May I suggest you actually look at the assets and liabilities on the gov balance sheets at least once in your life.

      No such accounting exists for what you presume to be true.

    3. Peter2
      December 12, 2021

      As you plainly are not a Conservative voter SK one can guess that your post attempts to get the candidate you feel would lose the next election.

      1. dixie
        December 13, 2021

        Be fair – the Conservative Party is no longer conservative and the list was mildly entertaining, a welcome break from the monomaniacs.

  45. Pauline Baxter
    December 12, 2021

    Let’s face it Sir John the handling of the Covid (so called) pandemic in the U.K. has been disgraceful from start to present.
    There are many people and public bodies, to blame.
    Yes, those running the N.H.S. failed us miserably. What would you expect? They’ll get more money whatever they (don’t) do.
    Then there was SAGE, with Ferguson’s previously known, bad record, of ‘modeling’ and the then Minister, swallowing it hook line and sinker.
    Opening the Nightingale hospitals but failing to staff them or give them equipment. Who’s cock up was that?
    The whole scenario of running the country by diktat, handed out at press conferences, is wrong.
    You have already stated your support for repealing the Corona Virus Act. You are right there.
    The list of who got it wrong, disastrously wrong, goes on and on.
    Was there ANY good reason for imposing any of those Lock Downs? Apparently Cummings was the chief culprit calling for them. Sweden did very well without lock downs – if you can access genuine statistical information.
    Why was the ‘Great Barrington Declaration’ ruthlessly suppressed and who by? That should have prevented the Care Home scandal and the whole economy destroying, lock down policies.
    Haven’t the government bribed the press to support their policies, by paying them for advertising. Then of course there is the B.B.C.!
    Now of course the Covid Dictatorship is threatening more and more need for ‘Vac Passes’ supported by more and more ‘Test and Trace’ and more and more lock downs.
    You can fool some of the people some of the time but many are now waking up.
    It is not just over Covid that B.J. has got it so wrong is it?
    He is even hotter on the Climate Change Scam.
    And he has pussy footed around the illegal immigrant scandal.
    For heaven’s sake – he could have got us a No Deal Brexit – if he had had the courage.

    1. Pauline Baxter
      December 12, 2021

      Oh, I missed out the MASK MANDATES. Which we already have back again. For heaven’s sake it has been proved over and over that the most commonly used masks do no good at all and are potentially very harmful to our physical and mental health and to global pollution.

      1. Pauline Baxter
        December 12, 2021

        AND MANDATORY VACCINATIONS – FULL BLOWN DICTATORSHIP.

        1. dixie
          December 13, 2021

          It hasn’t been proven over and over.
          It has been stated over and over but I don’t recall any authoritative proof being offered here.
          A bit like the euphilic rants that claim the majority of brexit voters were OAPs which is not true.

    2. J Bush
      December 12, 2021

      Re: The Great Barrington Declaration has been signed by 46 medical professionals. However, Hancock with his extensive PPE knowledge dismissed it out of hand in the Commons on either the 13 or 14 October 2020, less than 2 weeks after it was released. Latest data shows over 887,000 signed it. It is not going away.

      1. J Bush
        December 12, 2021

        Forgot to mention the reason why it was suppressed. It would appear it was probably because all of the signatories believed in upholding the Hippocratic Oath.

        1. dixie
          December 13, 2021

          … which Hippocratic oath? There are so many variations and an oath is not universally mandated

    3. glen cullen
      December 12, 2021

      All valid points

  46. No Longer Anonymous
    December 12, 2021

    Nottingham Lad Himself has not appeared today but he mentioned people sneezing, wheezing and coughing on trains without masks.

    I ask this question.

    Do people REALLY sneeze into their own masks ? And if they do what do they do afterwards ? Do they have a pocket full of them ???

    The same for a good old cough.

    The fact is that all these science vids show peolple sneezing in their masks but how many have a good old sneeze in a mask ? Really !!!! I have only ever seen a person take their mask off at the crucial (most video’d by scientists) moment to sneeze.

    Ask yourselves. Would you really snot up in your own mask to sneeze ? And would you continue to wear it afterwards ??? How many masks do you carry ???

    I think the Stratton approach to Covid is the norm.

    Despite what NLH says… the most people I’ve seen (as a frequent rail traveller) who sneeze are those who take their masks off to do it and then put them back on.

    What does common sense tell you, dear reader ?

    1. Nottingham Lad Himself
      December 13, 2021

      If you are coughing or sneezing frequently then you should not be in public spaces anyway.

  47. Helen Smith
    December 12, 2021

    I’m afraid, sadly, one reason for our too high death rate is the NHS, it has been too slow and too cautious in using new treatments, it’s legendary poor infection control spread the virus to patients in for other things, and the decision of the NHS management and doctors to discharge patients to care homes early on led to many deaths.

    One thing I would add, and that is not locking down would not have meant the NHS was open to other patients, it’s inability to treat non CoVid cases is down to the large number of acute CoVid cases, that is a sad by product of an infectious disease.

  48. Will in Hampshire
    December 12, 2021

    Steve Baker is at that tricky moment where suddenly things start moving much faster than they have been previously. If he’s going to seize the crown he needs to act now and seize the initiative from the various members of the Cabinet against whom he is competing for the leadership.

    1. glen cullen
      December 12, 2021

      Agree

  49. anon
    December 12, 2021

    Is there an unspoken fear that perhaps those who are vaccinated are at a higher risk? with this escape variant. This was raised by wise voices as a reason to not vaccinate low risk groups and instead use treatments which are freely available elsewhere.

    If the vaccines are safe and have minimal risks compared to or in conjunction with a mild cold virus what is the issue? Or are we expecting a death wave caused by the vaccination rather than the virus?

  50. will
    December 12, 2021

    Did you see the state of him on TV tonight with his hair all gapped – to have a PM of our country presenting himself in this scruffy manner is a total disgrace – he should be run out

    1. Micky Taking
      December 13, 2021

      Seeing him in the street I’d wonder if he was homeless, I might offer to buy him a coffee…
      haircuts are way too expensive!

  51. No Longer Anonymous
    December 12, 2021

    OK

    The unkempt hair was deliberate. The flawed genius, the manic professor, the over worked and overwhelmed PM….

    “Have the booster jab to save Christmas.”

    Um. No.

    This is a Save Boris mission. He knows full well we won’t save Christmas and it setting us up to say “Christmas is cancelled because you didn’t have the booster.”

    The man is a liar. He has lost all trust.

  52. Grennell
    December 12, 2021

    I have no confidence left in Johnson or any of his government ministers – listening to him tonight all I can see is another feeble attempt to distract from his woes with this new booster programme – everybody is to be vaccinated before the end of the year just to suit Boris. He has no shame – none at all

    1. Peter2
      December 12, 2021

      But I guess you would never ever vote for him as an MP nor ever vote Conservative so why are you so interested Grennell?

      1. hefner
        December 13, 2021

        Two comments from you with similar undertones, after SK’s and Grennell’s: so tell me P2, is it necessary to be voting Conservative to be able to write a comment on this blog?

        For what I can see from various contributors they say they are unlikely to vote CUP at the next GE and more likely to go for Reform. Why do you not comment after those contributors, I wonder.

        Could it be (who could have thought?) that you might possibly be … biased?

        1. Peter2
          December 13, 2021

          Unlike you then heffy?
          You are not biased?

          I think there are a few comments on here from people who would never ever vote Conservative yet give us their views about who should take over as PM and what Conservatives supporters should do.

          They are of course entitled to do this.

          Just as I am entitled to comment that they may be doing this to bend opinion to a deliberately wrong decision.

  53. Chris S
    December 13, 2021

    All the Conservative Maps objecting to further lockdown measures need to be careful in managing public expectation.

    We have been incredibly lucky – so far.

    If the original strain had been more deadly, as it easily could have been, we would have suffered millions of deaths and the NHS completely overwhelmed.

    The current new strain looks pretty harmless and is causing very few problems and therefore further lockdown measures seem unnecessary. However, in my view, it is only a matter of time before a much more deadly strain emerges and there appears to be no planning going on to deal with that eventuality.

  54. James Bertram
    December 13, 2021

    Latest ivermectin study – Brazil (December 2021):
    ‘Conclusion: Prophylactic use of ivermectin showed significantly reduced COVID-19 infection rate, mortality rate and chance of dying from COVID-19 on a calculated population-level analysis, which controlled for all relevant confounding variables.’
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356962821_Ivermectin_prophylaxis_used_for_COVID-19_reduces_COVID-19_infection_and_mortality_rates_A_220517-subject_populational-level_retrospective_citywide

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