During the referendum on the EU the car industry and its Remain supporters were full of fears that if we left the EU without a free trade deal with them the 10% tariff the EU would impose on our car exports would do grave damage to our industry. They did not accept that a zero tariff deal was likely, though one was finalised in the end. Nor did they accept that if there were 10% EU tariffs we could have imposed the same on their cars and made more of our cars at home, substitutingĀ them for theĀ dearer continental imports. Out of the EU we are also free to take tariffs down on components needed from abroad to lower our total costs of production. I did notĀ see anyone suggest output of our industry might halve if we ended up with some EU tariffs.
The passion behind these fears makes the lack of noise about the collapse of car output since 2016 more surprising. The near halving of output in the last five years hasĀ nothing to do with Brexit. We can all agree the pandemic measures dented output badly in 2020 and may have had some lingering effects on 2021.Ā Last year we only made 859,000 cars in the UK. We can agree that the worldwide shortage of microprocessors has impeded production in the last year, as the car industry failed to secure enough supply at a time of maximum competition from the digital revolution companies needing more chips for their successful products.Ā Apple’s gain was BMW’s loss. What seems more contentious is the impact of the race to net zero onĀ the domestic industry which most of the insiders seem unwilling to talk about, let alone cite as an important cause of the decline.
InĀ the last couple of years there has been a collapse in purchases of new diesel cars, and a decline in new petrol cars as aĀ result of governments in advanced countries especially the UK telling people not to buy them. Advanced countries have been discussing how quickly they can end their production altogether and making it clear to customers they wish to become increasingly hostile to the use of internal combustion engine vehicles. The UK has proposed 2030 as the cut off date. The Treasury has also added its contribution to car output decline with a substantial increase in the cost of VED for a new dearer car. The diesel hit has been particularly tough on the UK industry. With government encouragement not so long ago the UKĀ had becomeĀ an important world centre for diesel technology development and for engine manufacture. Ford for example moved its car assembly out of the UK but built a lot of engines here.
Tesla has turned out to be the winner so far in the expensive end electric vehicles. Tesla makes no cars in the UK. The UK based brands have been slower to compete, and the UK is struggling toĀ catch up with battery production investment, essential if the UK is to be a serious producer of electric vehicles. Maybe it is time to assess the progress of these policies, and to ask how much more damage there is likely to be to an industry which used to make twice as many cars here.
January 30, 2022
Output has halved in the last five years, during which time we have put up massive barriers to trade with our closest neighbours and biggest trading partners. But you pretend it’s nothing to do with Brexit. You are getting truly panicked, and I’m not surprised. Brexit is a disaster with not one single upside
Reply Nonsense. The German car industry has also lost a lot of output thanks to the anti diesel policies.
January 30, 2022
Did you read Sir John’s piece? Try to read it again
January 30, 2022
Whether it is cars, or the export of seafood, or anything else, could Sir John perhaps say how his brexit has, in the remotest, helped any of these?
January 30, 2022
Now that is a reasonable question. Whilst the sky has not fallen in in the way project fear forecast, we have yet to see many tangible benefits from Brexit, apart from the general ones such as saving some money, getting out of the CAP, CFP etc. The pressure is on those who advocated it to come up with some.
January 30, 2022
Great point! Brexit has ticked not one single box
January 30, 2022
Apart from not having to spend Ā£13 billion a year and not ever again having to follow every rule regulation directive and law spewed out by this supranational artificial superstate.
January 30, 2022
@NLH @Richard1 @Len Peel
The UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 at 23:00 GMT ending 47 years of membership.
Maybe we should judge Brexit in 2067 ?
January 30, 2022
O dear more people who do not understand what Brexit was about. It was to cease being a supplicant to a corrupt political system and to run our own affairs. That is the great prize. The other conservable advantages will follow and are following.
January 30, 2022
Net Zero is the coffin for all British Manufacturing Industry. We have to purchase our own self righteous salvation through worshiping at the altar of CO2 induced Global Warming. We must conform to a punitive set of dictates to save the planet even though the rest of the uncaring world carries on while laughing at us.
Seemingly required by the Davos Elite, the West has now to be coerced into jettisoning the economic model from which it has benefited over the last 300 years in favour of a Marxist Environmental and Social Governance (ERG) which through shareholder demand requires all companies to adhere to ERG modes of operations before any financing is granted. The motor industry is presumably just one of the projected casualties to suffer its fate.
Meanwhile the UK will wither on the vine of exorbitant energy generation cost resulting from economic illiterate policies of an ignorant classically educated political class.
January 30, 2022
The other fishing companies should ask Brixham Trawler Agents how to do it, the fishing port in Devon landed a record Ā£43.ton of seafood in 2021 an increase of +21.8% on the previous year. They have seen sales to the domestic markets and exports increase nicely. Source the Sun.
Cityam say that the City of London launched a record recruitment drive this month.
I really hope Boris and the conservatives working away at trade deals (i.e. India, GCC, Greenland) and our trade deficit turned into a trade surplus achieve their goals, I want the UK to do well, I want the people in the UK earning more money, I want the recruitment wins in BAE, JCB, Kier, Heinz, Cadburys to continue, I welcome the Ā£100m expansion at the Port of Immingham. The Port of Southampton saw a record-breaking year in 2021 in bulk shipments 1.2 million tonnes handled an 18% increase source Logistics Manager. I want the manufacturing outputs that all rose in December 2021 to continue to rise as reported in The Manufacturer. The UK economy returned to pre-pandemic levels in Nov 2021 we need to push this further and faster, the UK citizens need to buy more British made butter and cheese (only 58% of cheese consumed in the UK is made here – there is growth here) also checking the ONS inflation report in CheshireLive British butter is often (if you are prepared to shop around for offers in Aldi, Coop etc) nearly 50% less cost than imported butter.
Reply Very good
January 30, 2022
Source the Sun, and a deal with Greenland. Wow. That’s your best shot? Brexit is even more of a joke than I thought
January 30, 2022
Pedro are you saying that was a lie in The Sun?
January 30, 2022
I bet Pedro believes everything in the Independent and Guardian.
February 1, 2022
The source was actually the Brixham Trawler Agents and the announcement was carried by the BBC as well as the Sun;
“A Devon fishing market group has seen its most profitable year, despite fears the industry would suffer as a result of Brexit, local industry bosses say. More than Ā£43.6m worth of fish was landed at Brixham in 2021, Brixham Trawler Agents reported, saying it was record-breaking.”
But Pedro provides a clear distinction – the sneering, disruptive, negativity of remainers who prefer to dine on ashes versus the positive, constructive attitude of leavers who wish to celebrate and build on successes.
January 30, 2022
A Tracy. All my butter and cheese and all dairy products are from England as is the meat I eat too.
January 31, 2022
A-Tracy
A whole TV programme was devoted to the Brixham success story a couple of weeks ago.
An interesting view when people just thought and acted in a positive manner to make the best of a new situation.
January 30, 2022
The output of boring Remoaner rubbish has certainly not halved in the last five years.
Here is a reply I made to another of them in June 2019, it still holds very largely true:
https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2019/06/07/the-collapse-of-traditional-cars/#comment-1027330
Do you never learn anything?
In 2016 around 85% of the cars sold in the UK were imported:
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2017/09/05/uk-manufacturing-looks-stronger-in-august/#comment-887355
āItās strange that neither Cameron nor Osborne nor any other Remain campaigner was ever seen in a UK car plant pointing out to the attentive workers how much of the UK domestic car market is taken up by imports, mostly from the rest of the EU:
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2017/03/17/movement-in-eu-thinking-on-brexit-and-populism/#comment-860687
āItās easy to say ā¦ that 8 out of 10 cars made in the UK are exported ā¦ and gloss over the fact that imports of cars from the rest of the EU are much greater than our exports to them ā¦ and forget how much of our home market is taken up by imports ā¦ 1.72 million cars made in the UK in 2016 ā¦ 1.35 million exported ā¦ so wouldnāt that be about 0.4 million new cars both made and sold at home, out of a total of 2.7 million new cars sold in the UK ā¦ Meaning that 85% of the UK car market is taken up by importsā
January 30, 2022
Thank you, Mr Cooper. It’s boring for me to read the same old rubbish, so I appreciate your comments. If it bores me, an occasional reader, it must drive our kind host round the bend!
January 30, 2022
and both numbers have crashed….just saying.
January 30, 2022
Gary. For goodness sake stop going on like a broken boring record. Give it a test- it’s Sunday after all.
January 30, 2022
The collapse is “eerily quiet” perhaps because the popular UK media – which generally vehemently backed brexit – know that they are largely to blame for it.
“UK car industry? Sorry, never heard of it, mate.”
January 30, 2022
You will, I’m sure, be happy to learn that Bentley announced this week that it will start production of its first fully electric car in 2015, and has committed to investing Ā£2.5bn in sustainability over the next decade. Also, earlier this month, Bentley reported having cruised to a record year in global sales, which jumped by 31% amid demand for high-end vehicles.
Yes, I’m aware that Bentley is part of VW.
January 30, 2022
NLH – 859,575 cars manufactured in the UK during 2021: SMMT 82.1% of them exported. There is room for a bigger home market to be produced here in the UK.
Nissan produced 204,522 here in the UK in 2021.
Toyota in Derbyshire made 116,261 cars
But our deficit in cars with Spain is a massive -Ā£1.65 billion
The UK exported:
more than 16,900 UK manufactured cars to Japan during 2021 SMMT
Approx 57,200 UK manufactured cars to China
Approx 10,600 UK manufactured cars to Australia (this should improve now there is a new FTA)
In Britain 2021 Mini Production is up
Luxury UK car production up (40,773 cars manufactured) an 8.5% increase
Rolls Royce production up
Bentley production up
Lotus production up
January 30, 2022
Thats great news….but you can say goodbye to all that come 2030
January 30, 2022
Glen, I just wish the conservative party would take the policy back to a more reasonable 2050. The car changes will come when the lower cost electric cars with good battery length times improve and become affordable.
January 30, 2022
Did the Guardian, Independent, FT, Mirror
Observer and other titles support brexit NHL?
Another hilarious post from your 30 a day habit.
January 30, 2022
I didnāt buy a new car because of new emissions rules in London penalising petrol cars and there are insufficient charging stations for me to buy an electric one. Still, letās pretend thatās due to Brexit eh ?
January 30, 2022
Gary Megson : āOutput has halved in the last five years, during which time we have put up massive barriers to trade with our closest neighbours and biggest trading partners.ā
Although we were net contributors to the EU budget we gained no benefits from the EU unlike the Germans who ran an enormous trade surplus, or the French from the CAP.
Our consumers werenāt even protected by the German diesel testing fraud.
Instead we had a Ā£100bn/YEAR trading deficit and an enormous influx of immigrants who kept wages low, allowed both the Government and corporates to save money by not training our own people and cost the taxpayer in infrastructure and social costs.
The bigger the trade became the more we were fleeced and the bigger the immigrant Ponzi scheme became.
Iām pleased to learn that our EU trade is decreasing.
January 30, 2022
Good morning.
One way is to offset the ban on ICE vehicles and instead allow PHEV’s to be sold. There are many examples to choose from and they are a perfect interim measure. They do not use as bigger batteries as EV’s and can go much further with an already existing support infrastructure. The EV side of them can be used in towns and cities, or when traffic flows on motorways are slow or have to stop for some reason. The vast majority of of miles travelled by car on average is less than 20 miles. Finally the cost. The cost of PHEV’s is less than EV’s and having them as an interim vehicle would allow the support structure to build. The current projected banning of all ICE vehicles from sale is far too ambitious and is going to cause great harm not just then, but as we get closer to it.
January 30, 2022
Indeed the one advantage of EVs is they take pollution out of cities back to the power stations. Plug in hybrids make a lot of sense – do the city mileage on battery but still have the range and rapid refill capacity of ICUs. The battery and motor also enable the ICU unit to be smaller & enable it to combine & run more efficiently too.
Instead of one large, very expensive and environmentally problematic EV battery for say a Tesla you can (for the same cost and environmental damage) have ~ 15 batteries for hybrids doing perhaps 30 miles only on pure battery but with back up ICU engines for those longer journeys you may have to do some days or for towing. For the average user perhaps typically ~ 90% of use could be pure battery anyway.
January 30, 2022
Which is why I bought one š
It arrives this May.
The other good thing I discovered about PHEV’s, is that that you can combine both the power of the electric motor and the engine. This means greater acceleration when needed yet a smaller and more frugal ICE. The model I am getting 0-60mph (6.8seconds) figures are better than a 1980’s Porsche 944 !
January 30, 2022
Mark. Yes I had one and it did 60 mph in 6.1 seconds. It was great until the winter when the amount of miles reduced on charging due to the cold weather and when I had to switch tarrif recently my electric bill was sky high. I’ve now reverted to petrol again. At least I know what my bill is to refill at the pump and I’m not presented with a massive electric bill which is an unknown quantity. As someone has said, the batteries are only guaranteed for so many years and they are damned expensive to change.
January 30, 2022
Petrol has gone from Ā£1 a litre to Ā£1.47 in relatively short order recently. I was filling up for Ā£50. Now itās over Ā£70. Mins you, itās good to know that 70% if that increase goes straight to the governmentās pockets – to waste on some nonsense or other.
What hybrid did you buy? I bough a 2017 yaris hybrid for my wife a few months ago. It seems to be doing about 60 to the gallon but it is soooooo slow. I thought a 1.5 petrol engine in a small car would be nippy. But going uphill it really labours. What with that and the engine coming to life when I think it should be running on the battery – and often revving quite a bit as if the choke is on – and, all things considered, Iām very disappointed. I expect 60 mpg from a small, very sluggish car that does 0-60 in about half an hour – even without it being a hybrid.
January 30, 2022
Mike
Mike, I think it is perhaps the type of gearbox that is fitted to the Toyota that gives you the high revs when you put your foot down, a CVVT gearbox does not have any fixed gear ratio’s at all, it’s sequential and variable, which needs a slightly different driving style to a normal manual or a standard automatic gearbox.
Toyota seem to favour this sort of gearbox across the range if they do not have manual.
January 30, 2022
It is on a 3 year business lease.
Unfortunately, thanks to the Tory party my electricity supplier has just gone bust, I renewed a few months before and Ā£/p per kWh was very favourable which would have made the PHEV very economical. Alas I am yet to wait what BG is to offer me.
January 30, 2022
Hybrids will depreciate quickly due to the cost of replacing the batteries, there comes a point where the car is worth less than the battery.
January 30, 2022
Not really as the battery is a much smaller on a hybrid than that of a full EV so should cost far less less than 10% of a electric only battery typically. Though doubtless manufacturers will try to charge what they can get away with (as will most specialised car parts they sell if they have a monopoly).
January 31, 2022
Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
January 30, 2022
‘Indeed the one advantage of EVs is they take pollution out of cities back to the power stations.’
Forgetting all that digging up, refining, transporting to the sea, ship carrying halfway round the world – to the factories (but not much in the UK). And of course disposing of massive batteries at least 10 years before a knackered ICE…..
January 30, 2022
And it is not just the UK car industry. If our kind host allows.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/car-production
https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/car-production
These figures are over a 5 year period so they should include BREXIT. As Germany and others sales are also declining, it seems other things are at play rather than BREXIT.
January 30, 2022
Cheers mate š
January 30, 2022
Mark B
All good stuff Mark.
The one thing that is going to bring home the weaknesses in EV vehicles is the very thing they are designed to eradicate. Climate Change.
The world’s weather patterns are changing (the clue is in the title) and as the wind and the sun is affected so the number of storms and adverse days of severe weather will and have increased. When swathes of the countryside are powerless due to storm damage are we all to fall back to diesel generators to enable travel to work, power our emergency services or bring the troops in? Would be interesting what has been planned for days like this would it not?
When people lose loved ones because of limitations of a form of transport forced upon them. It could get very difficult for those who forced the policies through.
January 30, 2022
Mark. A very sensible post.
January 30, 2022
Meanwhile, the EU/Cummings putsch proceeds apace: the EU candidate has now been announced. It’s not really very subtle. Despite being presented as a gallant soldier and hero, he is in fact of dual French nationality and the nephew of an EU Commissioner. Besides being an archremainiac, he has a French mother and a French wife. His wife is a French Judge and senior civil servant who also works in the French embassy. His father-in-law is a French diplomat, the lead Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe mediator in Ukraine. In other words, it’s a whole lot worse than Grieve!
Reply Judge him by his views and votes, not by his relations.
January 30, 2022
To reply – but one can never judge politicians by their stated views or manifesto promises. Tory ministers always promise lower taxes but deliver higher ones (vastly so in the case of Sunak and Boris), promise better public services but deliver worse, promise to control our borders but do the reverse, promise sensible energy policies but deliver expensive lunacy and promise bonfires of red tape yet deliver vastly more of it.
January 30, 2022
I bet the new ‘would be’ MPs agreed by Central Office are never asked for opinion on manifesto ‘promises’ – but have restless nights wondering how they square them with their constituency.
January 30, 2022
+1
January 30, 2022
The great thing about EU supporters is that we now literally spend our time pointing and laughing at you all. The damage you have done to our country is immense – but you are mostly old and we are mostly not. We just have to wait to undo it.
In the meantime, Brexit has been immensely fun – watching all the people who voted for it getting stuffed up by it and angry at it.
We told you. And now we laugh at you. Poor Denis still raging to himself about the internal border he voted for. Tragic – but funny.
January 30, 2022
https://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2019/11/15/my-views/#comment-1071048
“I will take the trouble to go along to the polling station to spoil my ballot paper.”
January 30, 2022
Andy pretends he is happy but his track record is angry. We are free he is not.
January 30, 2022
Free? Free of free trade, free of the biggest and most successful trading bloc in history. You Brexiters have no clue what free means
January 30, 2022
Trade has never been free nor easy.
The EU requires a load of paperwork in order to import even whilst we were members.
Just the same as the rest of the world do.
But professional companies just get on and deal with it.
PS
I love you remainers who come on talking twaddle about international trade when the closest you’ve ever got is buying something off the Internet from abroad.
January 30, 2022
“free of the biggest and most successful trading bloc in history”
So what do you think this chart means, that we have ceased to trade with the EU?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/284750/united-kingdom-uk-total-eu-trade-in-goods-by-trade-value/?mc_cid=4aa9a8747c&mc_eid=ee84cb59c6
May 2016 ……………….. goods exports Ā£11.7 billion, goods imports Ā£19.4 billion
November 2021 ………. goods exports Ā£13.8 billion, goods imports Ā£19.4 billion
And that’s despite the continuing effects of the pandemic.
You really do post the most appalling piffle, and I don’t suppose that you will stop just because you’ve been provided with some facts which show that it is piffle.
January 30, 2022
Interesting that Remainers cannot grasp “freedom of choice” which Blair once championed but wanted us locked into the undemocratic EU.
What drives Ukrainians to resist Russia ?
Britain is an island but learned to be outward looking unlike the EU who currently have heads in the sand over Ukraine and its significance.
Trade is second to this not first unless you have not experienced the deprivation of WW2 as my generation have.
January 30, 2022
There is a lot in this. Each time a new horror of Brexit emerges, it’s another lightbulb moment. “Border checks and red tape at Dover, we never voted for that”. Yes you did. “Our seafood exporters can’t get their produce onto EU markets while it’s fresh, we never voted for that”. Yes you did. “Truckers, farm workers, nurses, they’ve gone back home, we never voted for that”. Yes you did. “Splitting up the Uk and leaving Northern Ireland under EU rules, we never voted for that”. Yes you did. Reality bites
January 30, 2022
In other news gazza trade carries happily on.
The highest exports figure for 22 months.
Growth the best of the G7 nations.
Employment better that nearly all EU nations.
January 30, 2022
Peter 2
The quality of your repeating arguments about the press you don’t agree with and talking about what we potentially might save but not what we have lost, just underlines the lack of quality in your lack of real debate
January 30, 2022
Getting to you bill it seems.
I w challenge you to respond with proof of what you claim
Always very happy to debate with you.
January 31, 2022
As expected no response from Bill the EU blogger.
Quick post then run away.
Pathetic
January 30, 2022
laughing at misfortune Andy? Are there any more isseus you should seek help with?
January 30, 2022
According to the most recent poll support for rejoining the EU stands at 24%. Much more likely the U.K. will be like Norway and Switzerland – still out 30 years after the referendum.
January 30, 2022
Yes, there are few more pro-European Union than me, but I do not support attempting to rejoin any time soon.
It would create yet more division, slew general elections, and most importantly be a distraction for the European Union who are enjoying freedom from this Tory ball-and-chain.
And any application would be resolutely vetoed by several countries anyway.
January 30, 2022
I have never objected to us being like Norway or Switzerland – both of which accept free movement. Norway is even in the single market.
But thanks to your Brexit we are not like Norway or Switzerland. We are like Tajikistan.
January 30, 2022
“Norway is even in the single market.”
You might like to check up on that.
January 30, 2022
You have no idea which way I voted. But unlike you I would like to see the U.K. prosper.
January 30, 2022
The European Single Market includes the 27 EU countries as well as the 4 EEA countries (with a few exceptions to the rules). But you knew that right?
No offence – but six years on and you all remain absolutely clueless about what you voted for. It really is beyond pathetic.
January 30, 2022
With a few very important exceptions. But you knew that, didn’t you?
January 30, 2022
I am neither āstuffed up by itā nor angry. Everythingās fine. Brexit seems like an irrelevance now. Not to obsessive like you. Iād suggest a course in mindfulness might get you into a better place.
January 30, 2022
Who are we talking about?
January 30, 2022
The Tory MP for the town where I grew up, Tonbridge. Oh, and for Malling as well, mustn’t forget them.
https://news.sky.com/story/tom-tugendhat-becomes-first-tory-mp-to-say-he-would-run-to-replace-boris-johnson-in-leadership-contest-12527930
January 30, 2022
Judge not by relatives? Well we were told (and some believed) that Boris was a low tax, small government, pro free enterprise, libertarian, EUsceptic and climate realist – but then he became related to Carrie!
Daniel Hannan today – Our problems come from a useless civil āØservice, but we prefer to blame ministers
Though officialdom is plainly failing in its duties, nobody is being held to account, except our beleaguered politicians.
Well yes but the civil service have little or no interest and anything much beyond their pay, pensions, the current group think and āworkingā from home. They are just as happy blocking roads or unblocking them, having insane energy policies or sensible ones, having a dire (measured by outcomes) NHS or a sensible healthcare systemā¦ Only ministers and MPs are (slightly) accountable to the voters and so should want to push sensible policies that do work. Alas Ministers almost never do. The ministers are generally run and steered by their civil servants.
Not helped when energy and business ministers are history grads, health ministers PPE grads, Chancellor and PM John Major even failed his maths and science O level passing only history and english Lang. and Lit. so he or (his ministers) gave us the predictable disaster of the ERM fiasco and would have given us the Euro too.
Reply Many civil servants have held a bias towards EU style solutions, the rule of international agreements and a concentration on net zero whatever the cost
January 30, 2022
To reply ~ indeed and this is all largely misguided – mainly art graduates who listen to the BBC/ read the Guardian too much and have rarely worked outside the state sector or ever had to worry about actually selling products/services to customers, delivering anything of value or about paying their staff.
January 30, 2022
L/L. Yes and look at the new bonkers cycle rules that have come in. You now have cyclists riding 2 or 3 abreast in rows blocking traffic for miles. They think it’s so funny they have to post it on social media. No point in a dash cam as there is no way of identifying who they are. Woke gone mad yet again. Meanwhile those that have to charge a car with a lead across the pavement now have to put a sign next to it warning people of a trip hazard! You couldn’t make it up. Is this all just another way of making driving a frustration? Imagine having to wait to proceed to turn left in a busy town where pedestrians have right of way. You could be there forever.
January 30, 2022
F U S
Very good points, you obviously applied common sense to your thought process before submitting your post.
Pity the majority of politicians and civil servants never were bought up to use that gift bestowed on them.
January 30, 2022
‘bestowed on them?’ – I think they joined the wrong queue.
January 30, 2022
Indeed total insanity and when you do the calculations on cycling it is no better on CO2 per mile than a small electric car with two people in it. This as human food especially meat is very energy intensive to produce plus they often need a hot shower after. If they are holding up many cars behind them preventing them from travelling at efficient speeds they will be even worse on CO2. Also many cyclists are doing it as a hobby & not to get from A to B but from A to A again anyway.
January 30, 2022
”a lead across the pavement now have to put a sign next to it warning people of a trip hazard!”
Its illegal to block a public path without a work permit and local council licence…..you can’t plug in a EV that requires a lead from your house to road (50% of terrace/flats in UK can’t charge from home)
January 30, 2022
LL, a very good article indeed by Lord Hannan and one many of us have been waiting a long time for.
January 30, 2022
I for one have already judged him ….. and found him very wanting.
January 30, 2022
We certainly to not want a remoaner like Tom Tugendhat (Theology @ Bristol so not too scientific, numerate or bright one assumes) nor Ā£500k private jet to Australia LibDim lefty & green hypocrite Liz Truss, nor do we want the vast tax increases and endless waste we get from Sunak, nor Hunt nor Javidā¦ All the alternatives are even worse than Boris.
We just need a Boris who ignores his wife and is supplied with a working compass in the form of JR please.
January 30, 2022
most wives are probably more sensible than the husbands, but one in Downing St is the exception.
January 30, 2022
Often perhaps – but only about ~ 20% of STEM students at University are female and lower still in Engineering, Computer Studies, Physics or at the higher levels – so statistically rather less often in those areas.
January 30, 2022
what has sensible got to do with those attributes?
January 30, 2022
So, a Not Boris, then.
Yes, if you put a Tory “government” in, then you get exactly that for which you voted.
Any parent knows that the surest way to send a two year old in a tantrum into an ever sillier froth is to give them exactly what they stamped and screamed and demanded in their first.
January 30, 2022
Martin – it seems as though your attention seeking got passed on in the genes. In the example of Andy – probably got it from both sides.
January 30, 2022
Then they learn they won’t get their own way every time the kick off and develop into normal people.
January 30, 2022
LL. Or better still, we could just have JR for PM.
January 30, 2022
F U S
Second that wholeheartedly.
January 30, 2022
No chance alas Tory MPs would not vote for it. Tory MPs even preferred no change no chance John Major who buried the party for three+ terms so daft were most of them!
January 30, 2022
Me too a mis-spelled word is better than a completely wrong word. My friend Fergus gets addressed as Dear Fungus often.
January 30, 2022
L L Hilarious, thank you!
January 30, 2022
L L the compass -hilarious!
January 30, 2022
Reply to reply
Honestlyā¦his blog!
He pulls no punches.
You should see what he calls the PM!
Very rude.
January 30, 2022
Rose, it is obvious he is to be our Trudeau, Macron figure, anointed by the EU to tie us back into Brino rather than be free, theyāre going full Trumphunt on Boris now. Someone leaking info from his own Downing St. flat now he will soon feel there is no-one he can trust. There is a full out attack on the left wing Twitterverse today. Boris must tell us what they want him to do that he wonāt that is causing this big pile on. Why the sudden rush to get rid, what is he about to sign that the EU canāt abide.
January 30, 2022
a-tracy: Trudeau and his family have fled, in the face of a peaceful lorry cavalcade which the BBC numbers in hundreds and everyone else is numbering in thousands.
I have long suggested the two things the EU/Blob don’t approve of are the PM preparing to take back NI, and his belated refusal to toe the line on shutting down the country.
January 30, 2022
Reply to reply. I think you need to take seriously into account actions, not words, of any new incumbents. Those would consign him to the Remainer/rejoin camp, regardless of words written and “views” spoken.
Reply Yes, I was not suggesting he is a Eurosceptic!
January 30, 2022
Reply to reply
I am so sorry, Sir John, I had already done that, which is how I came to notice the rest. Actually, in my experience, wives are extremely influential in forming husbands’ opinions, though there are of course exceptions. Isn’t that why the Victorian Conservative Party instituted The Primrose League, which was formed before women even had the vote?
January 30, 2022
I must admit reading roseās ābrulotā I did not know whether to laugh or to cry. It could only be a joke, for sure? Then, what if she is serious?
Is that all she has to say, that he has French relations? Or is that the usual way of attracting the attention of others on Tomās all other ādeficienciesā?
And without missing a beat, the ādam brokeā: a remoaner, someone (I have to stop p*ss**g myself) anointed by the EU, a Trudeau/Macron figure, or a Theology@Bristol graduate (forgetting his skills in a number of Arabic skills he got from G&C, Cam).
Are the clowns here āreally very subtleā?
January 30, 2022
Gosh Hefner if heās your man that makes me even more concerned!
January 30, 2022
No he is not my man at all but seeing our distinguished rose talk of a āEU/Cummings putschā was priceless. Then you so joyously adding up to that. Simply wonderful.
There are 6th form students with more understanding of the situation than you. Thatās all.
January 30, 2022
So why are you so bother Hefner, debating with Rose and I. š
January 30, 2022
Your usual level hef
Descending to personal abuse when in danger of losing an argument.
February 1, 2022
From a recent Tugendhat tweet;
“No I didnāt. I voted remain. I lost the referendum.”
That statement says a lot to me – it is someone who took the result as a personal defeat (still 6 years later) rather than something the country decided. It says to me that he is very self-centred, doesn’t see any positive way to accept and make the best of life’s challenges. I wouldn’t trust this person in any capacity particularly one where he must face adversities on behalf of the citizens, the electorate.
January 30, 2022
This doesn’t come under views or votes but under ethics: when he was chairing a session of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, he abused his position. He tried to stop the then Foreign Secretary from reading out his annual report on Foreign Affairs. He smeared him by saying he hadn’t written it himself. The FS said quietly that he had written it himself and he would like to read it out. With very ill grace the chairman sort of backed down. It turned out to be a very interesting report, very well written, and obviously not done by a civil servant.
What do you think the motive was in trying to suppress the report?
January 31, 2022
Youāre on the right path P2, now that you consider āclownā as a personal injure.
As for me losing the argument, which argument? Do you consider roseās and a-tracyās comments as arguments. Well I guess you do when you consider your one- and two-liners as contributions to, cough, cough, cough, ādebatesā.
January 31, 2022
I’ve never said the word clown heffy
Get your facts right.
And even more grumpy personal abuse from you.
Very sad.
You consider yourself a good debater?
Hilarious
February 7, 2022
The hilarious bit here is that you consider yourself a good debater. A debate, may I remind you, is when arguments based on ideas or facts are exchanged. Look over this site, say, over the past month, see how often you added some new idea or fact, possibly supported by references, to a debate. You do not do that even 10% of the time. Most of your ārepartiesā to the people you troll are as one- or two-liner, or your last trend, a couple of short admonestations to the person youāre pursuing.
So donāt make me laugh with your calls to ādecent debateā: my conclusion from several months looking daily at this blog is that you appear unable to put two arguments together.
January 30, 2022
There will be a lot more damage to the automobile industry all the time tacked on the back of Net Zero are the long term plans to encourage by penalisation , the use of virtually non existance public transport. As once air travel was for the very well off, so it will be for car ownership.
But like with the power generation industry when are politicians going to address the disposal of all the vehicles and components that will no longer be required?
When will world government’s make all transport and household goods and industrial machinery fully recyclable? Net Zero properly implemented is disaster waiting to happen. Governments cannot just pick the easy bits, the population brain washed to accept the new religion will demand it is carried out to the nth degree. Like with the possible changing our PM, be very careful what you ultimately wish for.
January 30, 2022
Turbo T
Or weāll end up like Venezuela, everybody driving round in very old cars!
This self destruction is quite insidious.
January 30, 2022
I fear that just as my domestic gas bills are about to double, petrol and diesel prices are set for some massive increases, fuel taxes and all.
January 30, 2022
Fossil fuel energy supply is currently in abundance, the prices are high and increasing due to governments signalling its intention to only buy/use renewable energy by 2030/50ā¦.itās the green revolution thatās pushing prices higher and not the lack of traditional supply of energy
January 30, 2022
Another disgraceful episode in the history of recent governments. Gulled by the climate change/global warming fettishists they have destroyed car manufacturing in the UK. It started with the Climate Change Act and has moved on to net zero, or net stupid. How to preside over the destruction of the UK car industry.
My next, and possibly my last car will be a diesel for the simple reason that diesel will have to be available for HGV’s for years to come.
January 30, 2022
Bod
Yep! Our next car will also need to be diesel, in order to tow our caravanā¦
January 30, 2022
Indeed and you can always use recycled deep fryer fat I suppose. But the government will probably just ban these cars or tax them off the road.
I do quite like my electric bike though – it is like being a teenager again.
January 30, 2022
Cue “Last Of The Summer Wine” music.
January 30, 2022
Would you prefer a nice anthem like the keep the red flag flying here?
January 30, 2022
+1
I hate to relay this but electric HGVs are on the menu.
Tesco (and others) apparently plan to use them.
So no food supply then, as predicted!
Seeā¦.they just donāt care whether any of the new craziness works.
They have their ātruthā and they are sticking to it.
Logic does not come into it.
They WILL see us starve and freezeā¦for the agenda. (Remember Mao).
And the liberals look on, nodding benignly.
Yet the crocodile WILL eat them too!
January 30, 2022
E h. Resources e.g. copper will never keep pace so either ICE is with us well beyond 2030 or the crocodile will eat us all. Life as we know it will be destroyed.
January 30, 2022
+1
January 30, 2022
Perhaps that is why food inflation is rocketing in the likes of Tesco, electric HGVs cost a fortune and do not have the battery life for long journeys, nor the battery longevity. JCB had looked into it, discounted it and thought the way forward was hydrogen id prefer to listen to engineers rather than retailers, this is just a political move, what are Tesco getting for this?
January 30, 2022
+agree!
January 30, 2022
Bof
I am gradually coming to the same conclusion as yourself with regards to the next vehicle, petrol may eventually get more scarce, but Diesel will be around for some time yet.
A hybrid is reasonable option in theory, but you are then paying for batteries and an engine, and whilst for very short journeys batteries may be ok, on longer ones the vehicle is less efficient due to additional weight. Given current set up Public charging points seem to be few and far between or non existent in most car parks
Current 14 year old Euro 4 standard diesel returns nearly 50 mpg.
Euro 7 is proposed to be coming into effect in 2025, which I have no doubt the Uk will adopt, where it is thought an ICE vehicle of any sort will be difficult to comply !
The only problem in making the decision is the nature of future government penalisation policies, and a whole variety of different emission Zones which are springing up at random
Both of our old cars are still reliable, have lost all of their depreciation, so we sit and wait it out for a bit longer.
January 30, 2022
Alan Jutson : “The only problem in making the decision is the nature of future government penalisation policies, and a whole variety of different emission Zones which are springing up at random.”
Absolutely correct and for this reason it is impossible to plan ahead.
Even owning a car is under threat :
Trudy Harrison : Transport Minister : Dec 2021 : āOwning a car is outdated ā20th-century thinkingā and we must move to āshared mobilityā to cut carbon emissionsā
This applies to the whole of the unilateral Net Zero Strategy project, not just for vehicles.
And the true cost of this project is being kept hidden from us. Few realise just how much poorer and controlled we are going to be.
January 30, 2022
At, aj and or. Thanks for very good points raised. We are faced with dangerous times ahead, the danger being our very own ‘elected representatives’. Unpredictable and without our interests at heart. All dictated by unworkable ideology that will remove many of us from the roads. If forced on us, to our detriment in the form of control, as you point out OR.
January 30, 2022
Shortage of chips indeed – let us hope China does not invade Taiwan where such a high proportion of these come from. Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is the world’s largest contract manufacturer of the semiconductor chips.
The main reason for a lack of car sales is massive & misguided government interference in the market. Why buy an expensive new car that might soon be banned or an even more expensive electric vehicle that has limited life, limited range, long recharge times, rapid depreciation, recycling issues and other large limitations. The sensible course of action it usually to keep your old car and wait and see.
It seems Boris is determined to stick to his huge tax and 2.5% NI increases. Even now freezing the student loan repayment threshold. We were vastly overtaxed already before these tax increases and they will raise less tax not more. Sunak & Boris need to get real. This on top of expensive energy/net zero zero lunacy and the large inflation (deliberate government currency devaluation) let us see how the elections go in May.
EVs (as is very clear) generally save no CO2 anyway when compared to just keeping your old car (so saving all the energy needed to mine & make the new EV and battery). Furthermore they need charging and we do not have any spare low carbon electricity to charge them with anyway.
Governments are the problem & not the solution as usual
January 30, 2022
Just why on earth does Tesla have a PE ratio of over 250 – surely this it complete insanity when Toyota is on more like 10 and VW more like 5?
January 30, 2022
Not quite as silly as cryptocurrency and NFTs, if you want a comparison, perhaps.
January 30, 2022
My youngest lad has a bunch of mates who are really into crypto. They pay Ā£20 a month to belong to some group with some techies in who are really into it. I said to my son ātell me youāre not getting into thatā and he said āIām going to risk a grandā. A bit later he said to me āthe lads say to buy Lunaā. So I thought āstuff it, I never make money on shares, Iāll give it a go.ā So I opened an account with Binance and bought Ā£5k of Luna Terra at $6. It hit $100 recently so I sold half my position. Iām waiting for the next tip.
January 30, 2022
Lifelogic, because people believe in Tesla and Musk. It is also an anti-establishment statement, the establishment have no trust in him and people like just to rebel, he repeatedly tells and warns everyone his stock is too high, there are plenty of small investors that have made good coin backing him. Donāt you just like true inventors and explorers, risk takers they are a breath of fresh air, they are like roller coasters at the fair. Who is to say he wonāt come up with the hyper loop revolutionising fast land transport at least he is trying. Goodness whatās better all the doom and gloom all the time.
January 30, 2022
At the (virtual) Davos a plea went out for those millionaires who ended up richer after the pandemic(of whose making?) for a wealth tax to help tackle āinequalityāš¤®.
Obviously our govt. has no idea of what constitutes āwealthā.
So it just ramps up the existing tax framework?
See the fear in their eyes. Desperate to obey.
January 30, 2022
There are questions over the long term supply of lithium. Australia is the main source for the UK, but the EU is failing to create an internal supply chain after Serbia stopped its Jagar site due to environmental concerns.
It appears the green movement in the EU want green energy and green batteries which means they canāt have cars at all.
January 30, 2022
There are questions over the long term supply of many key materials for EVs and other net zero boondoggles. China controls globally
100% of carbon flake production, required for battery anodes
95% of neodymium production, required to produce compact electric generators and motors for EVs and wind turbines
80% of cobalt, required for batteries
75% of battery grade lithium carbonate
The prices for lithium carbonate are now almost 10 times what they were just over a year ago, while the prices of the others have at least doubled. Net zero requires us to become China dependent on a scale that makes OPEC in the 1970s seem trivial. If they take over Taiwan they will control over 90% of global microchip production too, which would allow them to embed remote control from China.
January 30, 2022
This must be marked as a success by government.
Net zero is about getting rid of manufacturing industries.
Cars are only the latest in a long line of industries.
Welcome to import Britain
January 30, 2022
+1
They know not what they do.
Or DO they?
Teslas for me but not for Thee!
January 30, 2022
Import Britain as continuing to be encouraged by the raising of national insurance. The global marketplace won’t be hit with this tax, just the UK, making it more difficult for us to compete.
It’s like entering for the Grand National and then nobbling your own horse.
January 30, 2022
Looks good on a spreadsheet to someone at No.10
January 30, 2022
Brexitists said Brexit would make trade with the EU (and elsewhere) easier and cheaper.
Remainers said it wouldnāt.
Remainers were right.
The Brexit related collapse of the car industry is entirely predictable. Indeed, Brexitist economist Patrick Minford predicted it. Even a stopped clock is right sometimes.
Tesla doesnāt make cars in the UK because of Brexit.
Reply Brexiteers said it was about taking control of our laws and taxes. We did not claim it would make exporting to the EU easier. We did say it would allow us to substitute more home production for EU i9mports.
January 30, 2022
Donāt worry so Andy, exports to the Rest of the World are making up for it and recover is on its way. Our trade surplus is improving too. Jobs are coming back to the UK, and we can and must improve on this further and faster.
If Tesla donāt want to make electric cars in the UK then we must speak to Kia because I feel that is where the UK market is going because at least those electric cars are affordable.
January 30, 2022
No, exports to the RoW do not make up for the major loss to our former main export market at all.
January 30, 2022
Do you have the statistics for that? Give it time NLH. I read that exports of goods and services from the UK rose 4.6% from a month earlier to a 22 month high of Ā£57.1bn in November 2021 driven by a 15.2% jump in goods exported to non-EU Countries.
We do have a trade agreement with the EU donāt we, arenāt we told it was a good trade agreement or was it just in the EUās benefit? If the EU want to keep this up then it will eventually work against them. The trade deficit is reducing. Trading economic say econometric modelling projections say it is likely that the UK will breach the Ā£700bn per annum export barrier in 2024. Sunak told us that outside the EU we can enhance the UKās position as a dynamic, outward looking trading economy. John Redwood is right though Sunak should not hit the recovery with a high tax wrecking ball. This country needs enterprise, risk, hard work and reward. Sunaks NI hit will only hurt firms that hire employees not all the foreign companies that use subbies and undercut our market.
According to the NFU 64% of the food consumed in the UK is now produced here.
60% of the pork consumed in the UK is produced here.
65% of the poultry.
75% of the beef.
Source The Grocer via Rob Kimbell.
If the UK DIT achieves its ambitions for 2022 the UK will end the year with 46 agreed trade deals covering at least 109 Countries. Anne Marie Trevelyan has tweeted sheās had a busy week wrapped up round 1 talks on an FTA with India.
GBP 1.2039 today against the Euro a 0.0007 away from a 5.5 year high.
January 30, 2022
Excellent post tracy
January 30, 2022
stop it, you’ll make me cry.
January 31, 2022
Wrong NHL
Trade into the EU has risen since 2016 as Denis Cooper explained to your pal Len Peel above.
January 31, 2022
Not sure that looking at two points (May 2016 and November 2021) on those import and export curves tells the full story.
But who am I to contradict such summities as Dennis and Peter2? They must have both read the sacred Book of Revelation and unveiled the true truth.
February 1, 2022
Then look at the entire curves, 1997 to 2021, you’ve been provided with the link.
Jeez …
February 1, 2022
The figures are from a well known institution.
Published ready for you to look through the data.
But you have to sneer hef
It’s a poor trait.
January 30, 2022
I think you must hear voices.
January 30, 2022
Andy :
Our wonderful membership of the EU resulted in an unsustainable Ā£100bn/YEAR trading deficit with the EU.
Our leaving the EU gives us a chance to enact policies to correct this enormous imbalance.
January 30, 2022
Andyās right. Brexit was all about getting rid of red tape. So they said! Go ask the poor drivers stuck in queues at Dover and the poor exporters tearing their hair out at new customs forms. You Brexiters, you never understood what a brilliant deal being in the EU was, and our country is now paying the price for your blind ignorance
January 30, 2022
Let’s wait and see how both compare in 10 years time shall we, then we can all make an informed Judgement were we right or wrong, instead of just guessing, and then high lighting chosen examples to suit a particular argument.
January 30, 2022
longer queues en route to Calais…
January 30, 2022
all about red tape…complete twaddle Pedro
January 30, 2022
Complete twaddle Pedro
January 30, 2022
Sir JR
We are still waiting for the benefit you are talking about
January 30, 2022
Over 40 years in and you expect benefits fron one year out.
Hilarious Billy
January 31, 2022
Indeed we should all accept JRMās comment on 22/07/2018: āWe wonāt know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really wonāt. The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next fifty yearsā.
So my grandson, now 16 years old, will be about to get his pension before he really feels the benefits of Brexit. I wonāt enjoy the Brexit dividend, my sons not very likely, but I am pleased to know that at least their children will.
Such a comforting idea.
February 1, 2022
We are free to make our own way in the world now hef.
If we make good decisions ie voters and politicians we will do well.
January 30, 2022
It is government policy to end private car ownership. That is evident from the taxes, legislation and regulations imposed by successive governments. These are accompanied by nods, winks and now bald statements to that effect. The smart move is to keep your old car. It is likely to be an appreciating asset. The drive for net zero is a fool’s errand; it doesn’t reduce man made CO2. The rush to buy current BEVs will end in tears when the next generation of batteries appears that will render them obsolete. The political class and the obsessives urging them on are responsible for this wanton destruction of an industry, costing ten of thousands of jobs.
January 30, 2022
A classical example as to why we should not have ”career” politicians and lawyers attempting to run the country. The first lot bring zero experience and the other bunch have very little foresight. We have far too many of both.
January 30, 2022
and apart from the small number worth keeping the rest are sheep.
January 30, 2022
George Brooks
Brilliant. Love it.
January 30, 2022
The Treasury is out of control pro,EU and Sunak is a cypher.I see that there are no denials that they refused help to deal with company covid fraud.
And HMG desperately spins another trade deal as if it makes up for the incompetence elsewhere. In other news it is alleged Boris is desperately trying to cobble together a list of post Brexit positive achievements and some Departments canāt find any. Humphrey is stopping them and Ministers are too weak and lack support and I suspect direction.
Frostie and IDS (and yourself) have set out a clear direction of travel. Unfortunately we have a leader with zero personal integrity and risk averse functionaries waiting in the wings.
January 30, 2022
It seems to me that those who wished to āRemainā are also those who have ramped up the plague narrative.
So a decimated car industry brought to you by anarchists and left wingers of all descriptions bombing around in their gas guzzlers and flying off to warmer climes at the drop of a hat.
Overseen indulgently by the powers that be!
Not to mention the fact that previously rabidly against state ordered vaccination the Left has fully embraced the jab and bullies others to get it!
Benign smiles all round from the conservative benches, as the occupants are consumed feet upwards by an evil enemy they just will not recognise.
January 30, 2022
Letās play it by ear but the public mood is changing on green crap. Could be we need a referendum on net zero. After all there was never even a debate and proper scrutiny in parliament when it was imposed, let alone a public debate.
January 30, 2022
Richard1 FYI – There is an active petition to parliament gathering support for ” Hold a referendum on whether to keep the 20250 Net Zero Target” with over 21000 signatures to date. Petition number is 599602.
January 30, 2022
done !
January 31, 2022
Also done !
January 30, 2022
The collapse of UK car production is a failure of supply, not demand. If you want to buy a new Jag for example, apparently thereās a lead time of over a year on orders.
January 30, 2022
Yes that is why we didnāt order a jag when we wanted to.
January 30, 2022
Plus their sales staff are rubbish, donāt call back, just awful didnāt answer e-mails, werenāt interested in the enquiry. Sales is usually the best part of an organisation so if the sales are bad what is the rest of the company like! That is what we thought.
January 30, 2022
a-tracy
Indeed if you cannot be bothered about a making a sale, then who would be bothered when or if you had a problem.
January 30, 2022
This isn’t about cars. When Canadian people (children, parents, grandparents, families waving flags) are labelled fascists and terrorists then you start to understand what we are up against. When you oppose all these changes that are now being IMPOSED without permission kept from us before each GENERAL ELECTION as an act of deceit and be labelled in such a manner with the aim of criminalising you then truly is game over for democracy and liberty
It is getting to that point in which elected politicians will be denounced using the same Stalinist measures
A Tory PM who takes advice from a Marxist whose purpose is to stoke tensions between defined groups is sick.
Tory backbenchers have embraced Labour’s radical Neo_Marxist agenda. Why?
Anyone voting Tory must now understand that they are voting for a Labour party in disguise.
January 30, 2022
You should read Kenan Malik’s piece on free speech in the Observer today, Dom.
You might be surprised to find that you agree with him.
These are not Left-Right matters as you endlessly caricature.
January 30, 2022
Can I get a few examples of the right ruining and cancelling left wing books talks and careers please NHL.
January 31, 2022
I can give you quite a few examples – as can anyone – of their ending the lives of their writers around the world, Peter.
January 31, 2022
Around the world now NHL
100 million killed by left wing despots in the 20th century.
I thought you were concentrating on the UK
Got any examples here ?
January 31, 2022
1.6 billion killed by just the British Empire, according to plausible estimates over its centuries.
Imperialism is the most lethal ideology of the lot.
January 31, 2022
Twaddle.
Your figure are complete nonsense.
January 30, 2022
Net zero is the biggest attack on private car ownership. It is not the only one. Taxation continues to rise. Cameras watching our every driven minute in order to slap on a fine you didn’t know you had incurred. Smart motorways that are far from smart. Parking charges everywhere. It just goes on and on. The aim is clearly to destroy private car ownership.
When the Greeniacs/Gov. finally succeed, where will they get the billions in tax revenues they currently enjoy?
January 30, 2022
Old Albino. Don’t worry. I’m sure together they will come up with something. Perhaps a pavement tax?
January 30, 2022
If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street
If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat
If you get too cold I’ll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet
Lenton &McCartney
January 30, 2022
Lennon – I hate autocorrect!
January 30, 2022
Just to pedant ā¦ G. Harrison
January 30, 2022
I miss a correction system that would point when I miss the verb.
January 31, 2022
And if you think all that is unfair, I’ll tax the air.
January 30, 2022
+1
Iād say they have all but succeeded.
Look at the new changes in the Highway Code.
January 30, 2022
Was all this climate carbon frenzy even a glint in anyoneās eye when the mines and heavy industries began to go under?
Were those union āheroesā working for global powers even then?
January 30, 2022
There’s not much point Sir John raising concerns about the British car industry.
We are, at best, to be discouraged from owning a car. And at worst, it will be prevented …. through a combination of deliberately making it too expensive for most “ordinary” people to buy one; psychological coercion to use a bike/electric scooter/walk/public transport; tax.
An industry, which is deliberately prevented from selling its product and expanding, isn’t going to survive.
I have a small petrol driven car, which I bought new 5 years ago. It has 30,000 miles on the clock. It is far better for carbon emissions if I continue to drive that car rather than generate all the carbon which would be caused by the manufacture of an electric replacement, mining for the battery, shipping, installing an electric charging point – not possible where I live.
But this has nothing to do with CO2 generation, and everything to do with forcing as many drivers off the roads as possible and creating 15 minute cities. And if you don’t live in a city; there are no safe roads to walk or cycle on; electric charging points aren’t available or feasible and public transport is non-existent, sporadic or doesn’t go where you need to go ….. TOUGH. You don’t matter.
I will be keeping my small petrol driven car. And shortly before it is made illegal to buy one I intend to get another new one. I am not giving up my personal freedom to travel when and where I want to go because the Globalists in the WEF believe I should own nothing and the Eco Loons in Government are doing their bidding.
January 30, 2022
Donna
The rest of the world refuses to join the West’s lemming train, so car manufacturers will still be able to make and sell ICE cars. The growth markets are India and the Far East.
January 30, 2022
Mark B
Totally correct.
Follow the money.
January 30, 2022
Donna I really donāt understand this āglobalists in the WEF believeā we should āown nothingā desire.
People that do not buy their homes in the main end up dependent on State aid for housing benefits, the State tries to make the cost of this reduce by spare room reductions of benefits, the people that donāt worry about that are the people that have undeclared relatives in those rooms.
Those that bought their little homes and saved and squirrelled away donāt cost the state anything, like those that blew all their money and didnāt save anything for the future.
In the future any of these people that assume theyāll be allowed to live on full housing benefit in central London are kidding themselves, this will have to change as they need more key workers in the low cost social housing, the social housing in London is very generous as they get 3 bed flats with free parking, the housing benefit claimants will simply get moved out into smaller apartments outside of the City when they are no longer needed to work, that is true socialism, a social basis means those with the greatest need in Cities to provide their Labour need the limited housing.
January 30, 2022
Boris continues to increase ‘our’ involvement in the Ukraine. Whilst I believe that diplomatic efforts should continue, I wonder if Ukraine would go to war if we were invaded by Russia. Next will come the wave of refugees from Ukraine that ‘we’ must welcome because of ‘our’ participation. Is anyone in the HoC raising the absurdity of this concern for faraway borders whilst doing nothing about the cross-Channel invasion here, set this year to possibly reach 100,000 mainly comprised of young men of military age? It was reported yesterday that disabled British ex-servicemen had a longstanding hotel booking for a reunion cancelled so that the hotel could cash in on the lucrative business of accommodating migrants instead.
January 30, 2022
The whole Ukraine things is a distraction. A distraction designed to move the news agenda and our attention from the mess that has been deliberately created. High inflation. High taxes. Loss of liberties (when are you going to repeal the Coronavirus Act ?). MASS IMMIGRATION. Poor and failing government services. And a politically manufactured energy and food crisis.
The government’s priority is to defend the borders and sovereignty of Ukraine, even if it means war, whilst it allows a small continuation of invaders and leaves the NI under the control of a foreign power.
Their hypocrisy is biblical in propositions.
January 30, 2022
Beresford. You’ve just made my blood boil. When are the electorate going to wake up to the fact that voting for the 3 main parties will change nothing. They all think the same.
January 30, 2022
think I can live with – how they act is the problem !
January 30, 2022
Beresford
+ hundreds
If only he was half as keen on protecting OUR borders
How will Putin treat him, knowing that heās not very popular here?
January 30, 2022
Lester_Cynic
With disdain?
January 30, 2022
Tax on purchase, taxed to own, taxed to fuel, taxed to drive and banned from 2030ā¦.youād think that this government was anti the petrol car
The average price of a used car was Ā£14,041 in November, according to the latest data from Auto Traderā¦.so how is the average worker going to afford an Ā£40,000 Electric Vehicle
January 30, 2022
Glen, even more pertinent, who would buy a used electric vehicle.
January 30, 2022
+1
He canāt and wonāt.
And they donāt care!
January 30, 2022
They won’t be able to afford it. That’s the point ….. car ownership won’t be “for the little people,”
January 30, 2022
People havenāt been buying new cars because there has been nowhere to go for two years, we have been locked down for most of it, sales visits off the agenda. Things will pick up again this year watch this space. Also keep an eye on Kia. Affordable cars, eight year warranties because they are confident of their product, and lots of extras that you donāt have to pay extra for. If they can just get a designer in to sort out their ugly big badge theyāll be off.
January 30, 2022
Car manufactures will always follow the money and profit and thatās switched from the customers buying power to governments subsidy
January 30, 2022
glen Cullen
+1 As it was in the beginning it will be in the end. Just following the money.
January 30, 2022
Not too complex, the majority of potential customers have grave doubts about having electric vehicles forced upon them, having seen their limitations, the lack of infrastructure, the life of the battery and cost of replacing it. Not to mention the current cost and future cost of electricity.
Personally I will keep my diesel engined excellent vehicle for as long as possible, and when I need to change it I will lease. Everyone will make their own choice, and ultimately the market will decide. I look forward to japanese hydrogen fueled vehicles. These will dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s for me.
January 30, 2022
Before it all goes completely nuts – as 2030 approaches – in 2028 I will buy a small petrol engines car to see me out.
January 30, 2022
I am considering a used Bentley Continental just to depart in style and comfort white waving two fingers in victory to those who would corall our lives.
January 30, 2022
He’s not !
We are to be forced off the roads, or be restricted to using them. Fewer cars means less maintenance. Have you noticed how bad the roads are and the fact that many of them need repainting ?
We are to be forced to use public transport where we can be better monitored and controlled. Just don’t run any buses or trains and the population is rendered immobile.
Electric vehicles will be made available to the elite at public expense and, those who can afford to purchase their own will be able to get subsidies via the government / taxpayer, as they currently do.
January 30, 2022
Sad but True
January 30, 2022
It is sensible to convert to evs. Not because of Net Zero CO2 emissions but to reduce NOx and other pollutants, particularly in towns.
A sensible transition, particularly for HGVs, would be to convert existing ic engines to use gas (methane) a far cleaner fuel than diesel or petrol whilst still retaining full range capability.
The decline in car sales is because of the uncertainty of how long we will be allowed to use ice cars coupled with the high prices of sub-optimal evs.
The answer is not to go down the Tesla path of producing a vehicle to compete with icevs and hence so expensive it is unaffordable.
The right way forward is to convert as many users to evs by accepting the current low range of current battery technology and use the simplicity of electric motors to produce a small, really cheap town vehicle without all the fancy gadgets which consume power and add costs until a better battery technology is developed.
We need the modern equivalent of the first VWs or minis. They could even be self- build.
January 30, 2022
The contribution of cars to NOx emissions has been cut dramatically by technology and is no longer a particularly significant source, as you can see here
https://naei.beis.gov.uk/overview/pollutants?pollutant_id=6
Modern diesel engines with Adblue systems have almost no NOx emissions at all. It is not a reason to demonise diesel.
EVs produce more tyre and road wear particulates because they are heavier.
January 30, 2022
‘EVs produce more tyre and road wear particulates because they are heavier.’
Not very green and eco-friendly !
January 30, 2022
āā but to reduce NOx and other pollutants, particularly in townsāā
BEIS reported that āTrends in annual emissions of sulphur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, non-methane volatile organic compounds, ammonia and particulate matter (PM10 PM25) in the UK 1970:2017 where decreasing across the boardā¦..and CO2 emissions are down to 1890 levels
January 30, 2022
Why are you surprised? This is the result of deliberate Government policy and they will be applauding themselves, not worrying about it. Green chest thumping is so much more important than prosperity.
January 30, 2022
Spot On
January 30, 2022
Another excellent piece from our host on why UK manufacturing is suffering a decline, especially with car production.
We shouldn’t expect remoaners to be concerned about any of this, after all, if they can’t blame Brexit, then they simply do not care, for the most part it seems they also support net-zero, meaning they have nothing to shout about except more net-zero.
This potentially debilitating decline falls squarely on HMG initiatives to reach net-zero in a very short, too short a, time span – rather than wait for the technology to catch up and be available, they demand it be developed now, as we watch – but we simply are not ready for it.
If it were true what is said about global warming, then this might be worthwhile, but it is not, it’s just another control mechanism based on deceit.
January 30, 2022
Compressed natural gas engines would lower all emissions and make our roads cleaner.
JF
Why do all my posts end up in moderation? I am never impolite, I do not make wild claims, I insult no-one.
January 30, 2022
@JF +1
— My posts always go through moderation, even though I’m quite polite sometimes. This seems to happen with those who came to this site after a certain date.
January 30, 2022
In other news can you please stop our war mongering leaders threatening to fight Russia. Total lunacy and we will lose/suffer huge losses.
Our last 4 incursions have proved disastrous, pathetic virtue signalling soon to be u turned on achieved nothing. Donāt these people ever learn. They are not fit to go out alone.
January 30, 2022
No need to worry, rickshaw service will be with you shortly.
January 30, 2022
‘A SHORTAGE of microprocessors has impeded production of cars’.
That word ‘shortage’ is going to be fundamental to what will be the failure of today’s news story, the imposition of significantly higher taxes via National Insurance by Sunak and Johnson to supposedly rectify the NHS treatment backlogs due to Covid.
There will be extra tax, breaking the Conservative election promise, that will damage living standards and the economy but there won’t be the promised results. Irrespective of money spent or wasted if there isn’t an increased supply of absolutely everything that is critical, be it nurses or doctors(who take very many years to train), beds, anaesthetics and doubtless much else, the initiative to clear the backlog will not succeed regardless of the taxpayer money spent on it. All we will be left with are the tax costs and money wasted on procuring things that cannot be used because of some bottleneck caused by some shortage or shortages of something somewhere in the system.
January 30, 2022
Great.
So, when we’ve all got Teslas will they be pulling up the planters and cycle lanes and bias towards cycling that this 80 seat Tory majority government have forced on us ?
I refuse to set out for work any earlier than I already do, so if I’m late (stuck behind someone using the road as their gym) then so is everyone else who relies on me to get the job started.
January 30, 2022
A question for you SJR. The UK is flaunted by numerous politicians of all colours as the fifth greatest economy in the World. Some state it is, others say , if it is why does a particular problem they are interested in exist.
I have worked and travelled all over the World, particularly in the Far East, Europe and the USA. Every time I returned to the UK why did I always look upon it as a dump. I am not going to list here why it is a dump, the list is too long and you experience it every day of your lives. There is little I could visibly point to, of which I could say, jonny foreigner could learn something from this.
At one time it was our attempts at democracy, our sense of fair play, and our charitable attitude to the unfortunate, animal or human. This still exists at man in the street level but not in our institutions. The mere fact that it is left to charity to pick up the tab on so many essentials speaks volumes.
If we are in fact the fifth largest economy in the World where is all the profit from this going. It is certainly not manifest in the grossly overtaxed population who cannot even afford to buy a house until they are 40 plus. My personal suspicion is that those trusted to supply a fifth best quality of life are either creaming it off for themselves or their friends, alternatively they are incapable of managing such a successful economy.
Over to you SJR for a considered analysis of where we have gone wrong. It could be worth a book.
Reply The fifth largest economy is not the same as the fifth highest income per head. Small independent countries like Switzerland and Norway have higher incomes per head but smaller GDP
January 30, 2022
SJR the difference between what the economy earns and the incomes per capita is taxation in all its forms. The reason for my criticism is that government at all levels is incapable of applying that tax take to make us feel that we might be living in a Norway or Switzerland rather than the dump I sadly refer to.
January 30, 2022
SJR
As a PS I would suggest reading Mathew Syed in The Sunday Times, where he lifts the lid on just one aspect of the UK malaise.
January 30, 2022
As of July 2020, GDP PPP per capita put the UK in 38th position (indexmundi.com).
Searching for āList of countries per capita (PPP)ā gives various other datasets in which the UK is at the 37th or 38th position according to the IMF, World Bank or the CIA.
IMF, World Economic Outlook, April 2021
data.worldbank.org āGDP per capita (PPP)ā
The World Factbook, CIA, āReal GDP per capitaā
That might explain the ādumpā feeling.
January 30, 2022
Switzerland is 11th and Norway 13th.
January 30, 2022
Smaller populated nations do disproportionately well by your measure.
There is book called How to Lie With Statistics.
Although perhaps you already have a copy heffy
January 31, 2022
Indeed but have a look at which countries come before the UK in that list. Would you call the USA (15th), Germany (26th), France (35th) micro-states ādoing disproportionately well by this measureā?
And yes I have the antediluvian āLie with Statisticsā, Spiegelhalterās āThe Art of Statisticsā and Bergstroem & Westās āCalling Bullshitā. You might even recognise people like yourself in some examples given in chapters 5 and 8 of this last book.
January 31, 2022
So in a list of nations we are 38th with France and USA ahead of us.
That’s two.
My statement is still correct smaller nations do well using your biased measure of purchasing power parity GDP per head.
January 31, 2022
Oh yes, āmyā biased measure used by as small and ridiculous offices as the IMF, the WorldBank or the CIA.
It is quite obvious that GDP per se is not good enough as the population can increase and people can actually see their standard of living decrease as a result. Already when introducing GDP around 1937-1939, Kuznets was critical of his own tool. So GDP per capita was started to be computed from 1972 by Kravis and Summers.
Then GDP per capita was found to be of a rather limited use if comparing countries at very different stages of development, this last fact having been recognised in 1990 when the Human Development Index was tentatively introduced. But numerous economists wanted to stick with a GDP-like index so GDP per capita (PPP) became the international norm for such comparisons.
A book on the topic, if you were interested: āGDP: a brief but affectionate historyā, Diane Coyle, 2014. But Iām here ācasting pearls before swineā.
January 31, 2022
Yes your biased measure.
That’s why you use it.
Still not addressed my point how it is biased to small nations I note
Sudan better than many major democratic western rich nations.
Hilarious.
February 1, 2022
What is really interesting is how P2 can choose Sudan (around 180th in the table) and claim it is ābetter than many major democratic western rich nationsā. Could he provide the list of such major democratic western rich nations (MDWRN) between the 180th and the 226th position in the IMF, WorldBank or CIA tables.
Or if he refutes these tables could he please provide the references of the tables he is using that put Sudan before MDWRNs. Thanks a lot in advance.
February 2, 2022
I will ask him on your behalf.
February 3, 2022
Youād better because he is really stupid, not being able to properly read a table. But he appears to be the perfect English gentleman unable to accept anything even when doing so he makes a rather awful doo-doo.
But I guess that after a certain age, nothing much can be expected from such people.
January 30, 2022
Yes Sir John.
Historically very prosperous economies have been historically built on e.g. slavery.
GDP says nothing much about the quality of life for a country’s people.
January 30, 2022
PS, many of the ERG and the usual clanking manhole covers here said that if we had the same relationship with the European Union as do Norway and Switzerland then we would be a “vassal state”.
However you describe them as “independent”.
Which are they?
January 30, 2022
What like some Middle East and African countries do you mean NHL
January 30, 2022
A pithy and accurate post, agricola. Despite the much lauded NHS it has one of the unhealthiest populations on the planet. As you say the tab is picked up by charities. There is an ugliness here that grows with the passage of time. We once were an example to the world. No longer.
January 31, 2022
January 30, 2022
An ICE vehicle powered by natural gas produces much less CO2 than diesel or petrol, much less NOX and almost zero particulates. mandating the production of CNG cars, HGVs, shipping and trains would cut our CO2 output and, if we can overcome the propaganda against fracking, be marvellous for our balance of payments.
JF
January 30, 2022
I’m still driving a 2006 diesel. Sadly it’s a BMW and even more ad is that it has a 3 litre engine, so I’m expecting to get whacked by the eco-loons aka the govt and civil service smoe time soon.
Buying anything else just feels like a massive risk. EVs have battery life of c/ 8 years and the cost of replacement exceeeds the resale value of the car at that time.
A relative buys EVs ona 3 year lease arrangement and gives it back at the end every time. That may be the only way to do it in the end – except that the lease people always adjust the deals to try to create an incentive for people to make teh final payment and keep the car, so over time this avenue will be closed off too, it feels like living in one Khan’s low traffic neighbourhoods – every escape route being closed, one by one.
January 30, 2022
XY
Like you, our purchased from new, 21 year old second car is a V6 3 litre petrol, due for a change at some time, but since it is used only occasionally it’s poor fuel consumption (when compared to much newer models) does not really matter much, as no depreciation now.
Still drives extremely well, is totally reliable, so we sit and wait it out.
January 30, 2022
Keep your BMW Diesel !
Any extra costs piled on by the government will pale into insignificance when you take depreciation into account. They could treble the price of diesel and double road tax but your car would still be cheaper to run over a year than anything you could buy new.
My wife and I have six cars in our household and we won’t be changing any of them. The combined mileage across all six is about 20-25,000 miles a year, when we are allowed to make European tours. The oldest two are classic cars 54 and 67 years old respectively and they require no road tax or MOT. Insurance costs for each of those are only about Ā£120 a year and they are going up in value slowly. I don’t expect that to last, but they will always be cheaper to run and enjoy that anything bought new or near new.
None of them have range issues and are unlikely to ever need to be fitted with speed limiters !
January 30, 2022
Were the BEIS plainly on our side and that of the UK vehicle industry, the view of the Evil Empire’s Commission that it is appropriate for German manufacturers and others to extravagantly surcharge UK buyers for their products because of the extra costs of accommodating right hand drive would have been challenged long ago. That such challenge remains unmade is, alas, no surprise.
January 30, 2022
4,000 more magistrates āneededā.
To be recruited from young, ādiverseāpeople,
who DO NOT HAVE TO BE BRITISH CITIZENS!
Or so I understand.
January 30, 2022
This government has not learnt to stop digging and dispense with the three P syndrome it has been bumbling along the bottom for years with.
Pissing into the wind getting its own back.
Pissing before flies are open, just jumping in without forethought or reason.
Pissing down our necks telling us it’s rain. Talking a lot and doing nothing.
The voters have long memories and revenge is a dessert best served cold.
January 30, 2022
Can our host tell us anything about the enquiry regarding nudge units, please.
January 30, 2022
I hope so, Brian. It would also be worth this committee’s while to investigate the WHO Technical Advisory Group on Behavioural Insights, on which Britain has none other than Susan Michie,xxxx advisor to Boris Johnson. Their December 2020 report on how to use applied psychology to influence public uptake of the Covid injections sets out the techniques used in this country. SAGE were working in lockstep with the WHO.
January 30, 2022
Isn’t it shocking how Tory MPs remain silent on how people like Michie hold positions of influence like this under a Tory PM. Could this have happened under MT? No way, no way. It is evidence of a party that is now controlled by others and Tory MPs are mere cannon fodder, silent cannon fodder
January 30, 2022
Yes, Dom. Not only do they remain silent, they don’t want others to know, apparently.
January 30, 2022
Philip P and DOM, who would you have nominated to the Advisory Group on Behavioural Insights. I assume you must be psychologists of the highest calibre to comment on her presence in this group. And if you are not, a simpler question: What would you have done regarding the vaccination uptake?
January 30, 2022
Nobody, Hefner. The WHO TAG group has existed only since summer 2020. The world managed OK without it before then. We have never before needed to be ‘nudged’ by a privately funded self-appointed UN-related cabal. The Spy-B sub-group within SAGE has existed for a little longer, but is again entirely dispensable in my view. The idea that a government agency is influencing citizens of a democracy at a level below that of conscious awareness and debate, is simply repugnant. The serious doubts in many quarters about its disproportionate response to the Covid outbreak, highlighted by its bad call on Omicron, are precisely why there is a Parliamentary committtee of investigation into its activity. I hope they recommend its dissolution.
A vaccination programme should proceed on the basis of informed consent, not by means of depth psychology ‘nudging’.
January 30, 2022
I don’t think it’s Susan Michie or sage fault that they over egg it, not knowing they live in a gutless country with a gutless population, as usual it’s the population fault for not standing up to be counted and want to blame other’s for their gutless reaction, you could say the samething when it comes to voting, F ing GUTLESS, all they do is vote and moan, they don’t even know what they are voting for or for who.
January 31, 2022
Paul
I am in some way inclined to agree with you. But here is the thing. People were not just stopped from working but, bribed with their own borrowed money to do so. The lure of sitting at home or in the garden having BBQ’s and getting a nice tan whilst the NHS worked on their Haka dance routines were too great to resist. It is only afterwards when the goal posts to the restrictions started to move that people should have stood up and said; “No !” The greed on the shelves and their general behaviour towards people like me who saw through the SCAM being played out has made me quite cross with my fellow citizens. But some take longer to learn and others not at all.
January 30, 2022
”Boris Johnson is facing a voter backlash over plans to ban new petrol and Ādiesel cars sales in 2030.
Three out of five Britons would not vote for an MP who backs the policy, a new survey reveals” Net Zero Watch
January 30, 2022
We are faced in this country with a political class which is totally uneducated, supported by a civil service likewise. The education system in this country is not fit for purpose. Abolishing the grammar schools was a massive step backwards as was the watering down of the examination system so that non-academic children could be given passing grades. However, even before this watering down took place, the education system was fundamentally unsuited for the modern world insofar as it allowed large numbers of students to study Arts subjects only and claim to be educated when they were not. Furthermore the problems with Arts subjects is that not only are they largely irrelevant to modern life but nor do they require problem solving skills to master them. Is it a surprise therefore that politicians who all have Arts degrees are completely bemused when confronted with ideas which are purportedly based on science to undermine us economically or ideas which are purportedly based on equity in order to destroy us culturally and demographically?
The examination systems at all levels must ensure that only those without problem-solving skills which are required for mastering STEM subjects can be accredited with academic success; the Baccalaureate approach might be appropriate to secondary education. However, first degree courses which are not related to a scientific vocation would need to follow a mixed curriculum to allow matriculation with a ‘generalist’ degree ensuring a high level of problem solving ability.
January 31, 2022
It is quite amusing but also very depressing to hear debates in the Commons or the Lords on a subject one knows something about such as energy or net zero for example. Many of the speakers do not even know the difference between energy and power – even getting the units wrong. Many fail to realise that Hydrogen is (in effect) only a way of storing energy (not a source of energy as we have no mines resources for hydrogen – and a very expensive and energy wasteful one it is too). They also fail to understand that intermittent energy such as wind is far less valuable than an on demand one as they need expensive back up or vastly expensive and inefficient storage. The seen to have no comprehension of the economics of energy. Yet these Lord or MPs have elected to speak on this topic so they (one assumes) they think it is a topic they have something valuable to say on. Yet they have not even mugged up on the basics. Reporters on this topic on the BBC often displace the same total ignorance.
January 31, 2022
Interesting, one wonders how making the hydrogen bomb was possible or how energy from fusion is even being envisaged if hydrogen is āonly a way of storing energy and not a source of energyā.
You should really contact the UKAEA and tell them to stop the STEP programme. Your scientific insights might save the taxpayers at least Ā£220 m.
January 31, 2022
I don’t think hydrogen cars are intended to exhaust helium!
February 1, 2022
fh, You must be some kind of a mind reader as I cannot see where I mention hydrogen cars producing He?
February 1, 2022
I refer to hydrogen and not deuterium you seem to be a little confused.
February 2, 2022
And are you not confused mixing up deuterium (an isotope of H) with Helium, ie a rather stupid mistake for a multiple Cam graduateā¦What about you counting your protons, neutrons and electrons.
January 30, 2022
“…only those WITH problem-solving skills…”
January 30, 2022
This could be interesting to read, but it will have to wait until tomorrow:
http://www.maxpo.eu/pub/maxpo_dp/maxpodp21-3.pdf
“HM Treasuryās estimation of the economic consequences of Brexit ā using standard macroeconomic models ā during the EU referendum campaign represents a remarkable intervention in a highly politicized public debate. It raises a series of questions about the use of economic expertise. Through a detailed theoretical and empirical critique of the Treasuryās methodology ā and a reassessment of the likely effects of Brexit in light of this ā we cast doubt on the utility of their approach, highlighting methodological issues, unrealistic assumptions, and misrepresentations of established facts. In the process we seek to identify some of the wider implications for the use and potential abuse of economic expertise in highly charged political contexts, such as the EU referendum debate.”
But it was already clear at the time that other sources contradicted the Treasury’s assessment.
January 31, 2022
Still some good news Javid finally changes his mind and gets something right.
Mandatory vaccines for NHS and social care workers are set to be scrapped it was revealed last night. So what about care home staff Javid? What are you doing about investigating the statistically significant excess death rates mainly in young males from heart issues during the vaccine roll out to this group?
reply Let’s hope. Glad I voted against this bad idea.
January 31, 2022
What UK car industry? Itās all owned by the Germans, the French, the Americans and the Japanese.
February 5, 2022
China ?