My intervention at the Urgent Question on Asylum Seekers Accommodation and Safeguarding

Rt Hon Sir John Redwood MP (Wokingham) (Con): Will the Government legislate urgently to deal with the obvious loopholes in the law that are exploited by people smugglers and economic migrants? And I share the concerns of my colleagues about the use of hotels in my area.

Robert Jenrick MP, Minister for Immigration: My right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary and I are reviewing whether further changes to the law are required. One area we are particularly interested in is the modern slavery framework. That is important and well-meant legislation, but unfortunately it is being abused by a very large number of migrants today, and if we need to make changes to it so that we can ensure that it is not exploited, we will do so.

97 Comments

  1. Donna
    November 8, 2022

    Sir John Redwood “Will the Government legislate urgently to deal with the obvious loopholes in the law ……”

    Jenrick “No. We’re not in any hurry at all.” Because that’s what he meant with his response.

    If the Government WANTED to stop the invasion, it would.

    It doesn’t WANT to.

    1. Iago
      November 8, 2022

      This is a part of the greatest organized betrayal in Western history.

  2. Shirley M
    November 8, 2022

    What a load of crap (apologies Sir John for my language). ‘WHETHER’ further changes to the law are required???? Is the current law helping the UK? I’d say not. Not in the slightest. I keep trying to think of one single thing that has been done by this government to help the UK, and I am really struggling. The nearest I can get is furlough, but I am not sure it didn’t do more harm than good, so nope … I can’t think of ANYTHING good done for OUR country and OUR people by this government. Does anyone have some good things to say about this government? There must be something, surely, but I can’t think of anything?

    1. Donna
      November 8, 2022

      We’ve only got to suffer it for another two years?

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        When the illegals in the hotels all over the country get a vote at the GE …not so far-fetched as you think.

    2. glen cullen
      November 8, 2022

      Is this government helping foreign citizens or UK citizens

    3. a-tracy
      November 8, 2022

      Shirley, until Sunak and Hunt, the personal tax-free allowance was moving up steadily.
      The allowance was set at ÂŁ6,475 for 2010/11, in 2022, it is ÂŁ12,570 (now frozen).
      The NI threshold in 2010/11 was ÂŁ5720 (11% over), in 2022, it is ÂŁ12,570 (12% over).
      Allowing lower earners to keep more of their income before paying direct income taxes.

      But Osborne heavily taxed those earning over ÂŁ100k by withdrawing their tax-free allowance. He also hurt parents where one earner earned over ÂŁ50k.

    4. Hope
      November 8, 2022

      Shirley,

      12 long years of deceitful tosh by Tory ministers! Answer from Jenrick who thought it okay to lecture and scare the nation not to visit or travel during Chinese flu while he and his family travelled to live in their second home outside London (children of school age) and also visited his elderly parents! Who would believe a word this idiot says!

      Once more just accept what pompous Tories tell you and be grateful, they know best.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        please don’t call this lot Tories …its been so many years since we had the real Tories in power.

      2. a-tracy
        November 9, 2022

        Hope, everyone I know that had second homes left London just before lockdown.

    5. Wanderer
      November 8, 2022

      Actually that’s a jolly good question. What have they done that’s good? Nothing stands out that I can think of. Too much amateur interference in too many things.

    6. Mike Wilson
      November 8, 2022

      @Shirley M

      I can’t find a good thing to say about them – but I would like to offer something that I am sure the majority of contributors to this site would say 
 ‘This government is admittedly appalling, but it is still better than Labour!’

      Whereas I take the view that a bunch of teenagers could do a better job.

      1. Shirley M
        November 9, 2022

        I’m not sure this government is any better than Labour. They are equally bad and both deliberately lie and deceive in order to get elected. Nobody knows what they either party would do, apart from the lying and deceiving, and deliberate destruction of the country! Have they got a magic wand to remove their own families from the UK once they have finished destroying it?

  3. ignoramus
    November 8, 2022

    Still curious for thoughts on the metrics we should use to judge the success or failure of Brexit.

    Any thoughts?

    1. Shirley M
      November 8, 2022

      What Brexit? Parliament won’t allow anything beneficial for the UK. In fact they sabotaged the country (and did huge damage) via the Benn Act. I still can’t understand how that was legal, but I expect some clever clogs knew how to word it so they didn’t get prosecuted for treason, and the majority of Parliament were happy to let it happen anyway. I naively thought the UK was a democracy!

    2. Nottingham Lad Himself
      November 8, 2022

      It has certainly done nothing to prevent this particular problem has it?

      I wonder if that is because European Union membership disallows any member country’s becoming a theocracy, and there is a Union-wide ban on religious slaughter methods? (From which the UK had opted out anyway.)

    3. Jason Cartwright
      November 8, 2022

      Same metrics used to demonstrate the amazing success of the EU.

    4. beresford
      November 8, 2022

      Do try to keep up. The debate has moved on from whether we should be controlled by unelected EU technocrats to whether we should be controlled by unelected WEF technocrats.

      1. ignoramus
        November 9, 2022

        I thin it is more than reasonable to set some proper targets for Brexit.

        Every other government programme has clear targets, why not Brexit?

        How else are we to track progress and promote success?

      2. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        or controlled by unelected idiots who know bugger all about any technology?

    5. Mickey Taking
      November 8, 2022

      bored to tears with ‘is it good or bad’?
      Considering so many areas of society and establishment people are STILL doing their utmost to cause problems, then is it any wonder that the majority who voted to LEAVE are anxious to get another GE, to get the Commons reduced to say half, to abandon the Lords, to reduce powers of the Judiciary, to ‘let Scotland and N.I leave the Union, to make laws that insist an MP seeking re-election should have their total voting decisions made available on a website produced to that end, that all alcohol be banned in Downing St, the House of Commons and the Lords, using WhatApp for official business be made illegal etc…..

    6. Mike Wilson
      November 8, 2022

      @ignoramus

      Metrics for the success of Brexit? Hmmm.

      Don’t have to follow EU law? Nope – 2400 still on the statute books. Or is it 3800 – didn’t they just find another 1400?

      Immigration massively reduced? You MUST be joking! Immigration up. Illegal immigration through the roof (of all 4 star hotels which are having to put extra floors on to meet the ever increasing demand.)

      What else? Trade! Border down the Irish Sea so that’s another fail. And trade with the EU significantly down too. Trade deals with other countries? A few 
 BAD ones!

      I voted to Leave. I didn’t allow for Tory governments completely screwing it up.

      1. Sir Joe Soap
        November 8, 2022

        It’s been screwed up by design. Cameron slithering away was inevitable, but bringing May into the frame to screw up Brexit, put down this slavery legislation and ignore the need for self sufficiency in fuel and food was disgusting treachery. Johnson for reasons I guess explained by marital happiness went to pot. We get one person with the right ideas but no idea of method, usurped by this snake and his cohorts like Jenrick. They all need dispersing regardless of how bad the replacements are.

  4. Berkshire Alan
    November 8, 2022

    Politicians making life far too complicated yet again.

    It is simple really, Illegal entry, no papers, return immediately, to a Country of our choice if you will not give us your true nationality or identity.

    If all Countries in the World operated this system, there would be no delay’s at all.

    1. Ian B
      November 8, 2022

      @Berkshire Alan +1 The Law was said to be straight forward, enter the UK Illegaly, you are a Criminal the sentance is 4 years, longer if you are the one driving the boat. There can hardly be a defence, when you dont seek approval, dont use official channels, all these alternatives are simply a Criminal Offence. What does this Government do knowing that, it rewards these Criminals with Free this and that and virtually says sorry for inconveniencing you.

      1. Cheshire Girl
        November 9, 2022

        Yes, the Government is far more interested in the ‘Human Rights’ lobby than the interests of the British people, who pay for all this, but have no say.
        I don’t believe their excuses, and there is a seething resentment growing here. If they don’t soon do something concrete, I fear for the future of this Country.

    2. glen cullen
      November 8, 2022

      +1

    3. Berkshire Alan
      November 8, 2022

      In addition, stop paying (with taxpayers money) solicitors to game the system, these people have paid criminals to get here, let them pay for their own legal teams, and their own secure accommodation fees and food, if they want to challenge any decision.
      For goodness sake stop pussy footing about, and sort it out.

      Does anyone in parliament have any common-sense at all ?

    4. No Longer Anonymous
      November 8, 2022

      How do the French get away with that they do ? Put them in muddy fields without any benefits at all.

      MPs are no use to us at all. Above all else they are the profession most in need of cut backs and reduction in numbers.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        Give them all a ticket to Glastonbury – at ÂŁ350 it would be cheaper than staying in the hotels.

    5. MFD
      November 8, 2022

      Well said Alan. Time to put bat to ball.

    6. Mike Wilson
      November 8, 2022

      return immediately, to a Country of our choice

      What are you talking about? A country of our choice!!! Who on earth do you think would accept our rejected illegal immigrants? Get a grip.

      We are the only country in the world where you can arrive on a beach, without papers, refuse to say where you are from and be put up in a 4* hotel and given pocket money and priority health care. We truly are a bunch of saints. With luck and good weather across the Channel in a few years the whole of Albania will be here where they appear to belong.

      Well done Mr. Redwood’s party. Up the Conservatives. Saints to a man.

      1. Berksshire Alan
        November 9, 2022

        Mike you missed out the important bit, if they refuse to give us their real identity, national status etc etc.

        The Country of our Choice could simply be back to France in many cases, then France could operate the same system, etc etc. Airlines follow those rules, bring over someone without the correct paperwork and the airline are the ones responsible for return to original destination on the next plane out.

        I certainly agree with your second para with regards to the pull factor, but our weak politicians will not do that either. The problem is not Just the Conservative Party, it’s all of them !

        It is they who need to get a grip, not me !

    7. SM
      November 8, 2022

      1. If a migrant is a genuine refugee, then there is surely no reason for him/her to dispose of identity papers, since they would be proof that s/he really was fleeing a place where either war or trafficking was known about.

      But …

      2. What happens if the country you wish to return the migrant to refuses to accept him/her?

      1. SecretPeople
        November 9, 2022

        Why is it only other countries who can refuse to accept people of unidentifiable origin or identity?
        Imagine if we were the country that refuses them!

        Rapes, murders, terrorism and economic crime together comprise sufficient reason to declare an emergency of national security.

      2. Berkshire Alan
        November 9, 2022

        SM

        If we are sensible then we should have agreement’s already in place for those who wish to take illegals.

        Please do not say it cannot be done, we have at least one already, but not a single person has been transferred there in 6 months. Like wise there are official refugee camps all over the middle east (some which we Fund to the tune of ÂŁ Millions) so send them back there, where they can apply for asylum in a legal manner.

        It really is not difficult if people put their minds to it.

      3. anon
        November 9, 2022

        2) We calibrate our response , trade,aid economic sanctions. We then detain the individuals and send them to a more local refugee camp. We do have other methods as well- although i draw the line at blowing up pipelines.

  5. Peter
    November 8, 2022

    Everybody knows nothing will change.

    1. Ian Wragg
      November 8, 2022

      Fishy in charge doesn’t want to tackle illegals. He doesn’t want to protect NI from the absurd protocol, he doesn’t want the repealing of damaging EU laws.
      He just wants managed decline and to hand over the baton to sir kneelalot so we can rejoin the SM and CU.
      The wishes of Britain are way down his list of priorities.

  6. Fedupsoutherner
    November 8, 2022

    What does Mr Jenrick mean when he says “If we need to make changes?” It’s obvious to an idiot we HAVE to make changes because we simply can’t go on the way we are. There are some dirty great loopholes that need to be filled but so far no action. Wales is now the favoured area to fill with illegals. Thanks alot. Right on my doorstep. People are becoming more frustrated by the inaction of your government when we see how our lifestyles are being lowered while we pay for these invaders. I’d like to know just how many have absconded and disappeared into the ether.

    1. Ian B
      November 8, 2022

      @Fedupsoutherner Today we learned there have been 3,800 EU laws forced on us  without the Democratic right to amend or put in to a UK context.
      Our Rulers Today in the EU Commission have stated any attempt to diverge and the trade deal with them is off the table.
      So our Parliament no longer has the right to create, amend or repeal Laws that affect the Daily Life even those just inside the UK or haveing an afect on our relationships with other Countries outside of the European Union. So why do we have MP’s and a UK Parliament? If they have to do as they are told by the unelected, unaccountable Foreign Power
      Mr Jenrick just like other UK MP’s is just taking Orders from his Foriegn Masters

  7. formula57
    November 8, 2022

    Marvellous! It is as though Pritti Patel’s 3+ years tenure never happened.

  8. BW
    November 8, 2022

    I take it the minister doesn’t believe the ECHR and the the human rights act are not being abused. By the time any changes are made I am sure the minister will be in the lords with the other 600 having a kip for ÂŁ330 a day.
    I may have read it wrong. Can anyone confirm that our PM, forced upon us, has signed up to:
    ÂŁ11.6 billion on climate change
    ÂŁ1.5 billion for Pakistan and Somalia
    65.5 billion for Kenya and Egypt
    150 million for Congo and Amazon
    65.5 million Clean energy innovation
    3 billion Nairobi’s railway city & hydropower.
    Nobody voted for this or the WEF enforced PM.
    After all this please don’t tell me on the 17th we are living in very difficult economic times. It is quite clear this will have to be borrowed. There is always money to give to the world. Just not our own.
    The entire country can see what is happening with our democracy. It’s finished.

    1. Shirley M
      November 8, 2022

      + many, BW

    2. rose
      November 8, 2022

      Whether you have it right or not, the usurping PM definitely said during his leadership race, which he lost, that he would not give aid to countries which refused to take back illegal immigrants.

      1. Donna
        November 9, 2022

        Do keep up …. Fishy Rishi has now ditched all the “promises” he made during his Leadership campaign. Like Manifesto “promises” they were just a means by which he hoped to gain votes …… with no intention of every carrying them out.

        1. Mickey Taking
          November 9, 2022

          ‘promises’ – thats a laugh.

    3. Ian B
      November 8, 2022

      @BW, +1 Democracy is the threat, the self proclaimed Elite as they call themselves don’t like it and will fight it until its extinction. Democracy done right allows for everyone an equal share of the direction we travel, shared responsibility, shared contribution.

    4. Berkshire Alan
      November 8, 2022

      BW

      Happens every time a Prime Minister goes abroad, no matter who they are, the taxpayer gets screwed for ÂŁ millions, now it’s ÂŁ billions.

    5. No Longer Anonymous
      November 8, 2022

      So what of a piffling ÂŁ40bn unfunded tax cuts then ? (They would have resulted in economic growth but were, alas, too Conservative, Conservatism is banned.)

    6. glen cullen
      November 8, 2022

      Spot On

    7. glen cullen
      November 8, 2022

      Where’s he getting all the money from? ….oh yes the tax rises

  9. Ian B
    November 8, 2022

    Mel Stride, the Work and Pensions Secretary, discussed the protesters during an interview on Sky News. When asked if the environmental protestors had a point, he said: “Well, they do in [a] sense. 

    Sort of condoning criminal activity as the UK Surfs going about their normal business have no rights, they are just the Governments Slaves that pay an MP’s wages.

    1. rose
      November 8, 2022

      Far too much of this weak-minded behaviour on the air, Ian. I have yet to meet a scientist who can demonstrate that raised levels of CO2 in the atmosphere precede warming, rather than follow it.

    2. Mickey Taking
      November 8, 2022

      Can I draw attention to the Work and Pensions Secretary about the generous additional State pension paid on achieving 80 years? I have a brother in law who shortly reaches the landmark of 80, and he will receive the princely sum of 25p per week extra. Perhaps Sir John will communicate with Mel Stride as to how is this extra envisaged to be spent?
      In the family we are comparing ideas – saving up them for a month and posting a letter to someone, thanking the W&P Secretary for funding using a lightbulb for as many minutes it will buy, similarly, now he pays ÂŁ159 for a tv licence being no longer free someone could work out how many hours of tv switched on it funds. A local charity shop sells lots of used paperbacks for ÂŁ1.

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        and of course – a monthly trip to the pleasures of the Pound Shop ! (might be the winner).

    3. Original Richard
      November 10, 2022

      Ian B :

      I think a FOI request is needed to see if the Government is funding XR/IB/JSO just as they have been seen to be funding the organisations taking it to court over their Rwanda plans.

  10. Hope
    November 8, 2022

    JR,
    Why did you not ask why your govt has not got rid of ECHR as promised by recent successive Tory PMs to get elected that would allow the UK to do whatever it wanted rather than act under EU control?

    It strikes me this is another parliamentary sham between the two socialist parties. Dull questions and answers is what we have come to expect.

    Your party and govt had 12 years to address this and many promises to get elected. Instead of honouring your manifestos and promises your party and govt.’s deliberately imported, against the will of the people and mandate to be in office, 4.2 million plus hundreds of thousands of illegal criminals. Based on estimates not actual head count as your party and govt have still failed to put a proper head count system in place!

    The UK is running out of hotels for the criminals your party import! Home Office adding to inflation by hiking prices of accommodation. We expect more tax rises, again against manifesto promises, and cuts to public services so Sunak can give away our money for his left wing cause climate repatriation! Based on nonsense without any factual basis. How about the benefits our country gave the world so they could have a system of governance, laws, got rid of slave trade, have an industrial revolution of their own to reduce poverty and increase longevity of life? The cohorts of idiots in your party and govt have grown, including from the generational immigrants who arrived here and have much to thank us for- as Sunak claimed! His actions in stark contrast to his words. Serving with integrity again, not.

  11. Cuibono
    November 8, 2022

    My solution would be to send them immediately to affluent areas.
    The “elite” have only gotten away with it all thus far because it initially targeted inner city working class areas ( having previously convinced the inhabitants that they really wanted to move out to a New Town or further up the line).
    Remember “The Newcomers”TV soap? Total propaganda to get country folk to accept new housing estates for “white flight”.
    My back up solution would be billeting of migrants onto MPs and PM and any civil servant in favour of mass migration.
    Mind you since they are arriving in their thousands
100 for each MP?

    1. Shirley M
      November 8, 2022

      Personally, I wouldn’t allow them to set foot on UK land without proper documentation. Push them back to their French escorts! Once in, they are on the gravy train at our expense and can even commit crime after crime (even violent crime), fail asylum, and they still get to stay! The safety of legal citizens and their care counts for NOTHING with our politicians!

      If they were pushed back, France would also benefit in the long run, as it would be pointless for them all to gather at Calais, but I see Rishi is going to pay France another ÂŁ80 million for the privilege of taking a few thousand more very expensive invaders while Macron/Rishi do another round of ‘let’s pretend’!

      Other countries manage to deter illegals, but the UK government actually invites them in with plenty of incentives and spends tons more money on them than the LEGAL citizens who pay for it all!

      1. SecretPeople
        November 9, 2022

        +1, Shirley. No setting foot on British soil.

    2. Ian B
      November 8, 2022

      @Cuibono, it was reported in the Media last week one of these boats turned up off the Italian coast carrying these people. The retort from the authorities was go away and don’t come back and that is what they did – Simples

    3. MWB
      November 8, 2022

      An excellent idea, and one that I’ve put forward before.
      Let’s start by sending a few thousand to Witney, and to Maidenhead.

    4. Wanderer
      November 8, 2022

      Spot on. That tactic certainly exposed the Martha’s Vineyard elite for the hypocrites that they are when De Santis shipped some illegal migrants up there from Texas.

    5. Mike Wilson
      November 8, 2022

      No, 1000 for each MP. That would make a dent in the numbers – for now.

      In Dorset today the seas were really rough. I wonder how many dinghies made it over today. Come on, we still have empty hotel rooms.

      1. Diane
        November 9, 2022

        Numbers: November 01 to 07 inclusive – ZERO arrivals. Poor, wet, windy, changeable conditions this week. Last arrival was 46 last Monday 31/10. As I write no figure recorded for 08 Nov just yet, sometimes a bit late in updating. The lull will have enabled Manston to revert to legal capacity presumably. ( Mod figures )

        1. Mickey Taking
          November 9, 2022

          yep…as soon as the weather calms the gangs will be delivering the dinghies to the coast, and the vans will turn up with clearly not seasiders with buckets and spades.
          Easy for the French to spot – of course there will be mistakes in ‘where’ seen, problems sending the gendarmes out, H&S preventing them wading in a foot of water to slash the dinghies….

    6. Mickey Taking
      November 9, 2022

      tents on College Green, Westminster would be a start.

  12. agricola
    November 8, 2022

    Minister, the abuse comes from the UK legal profession who are bottom feeding on the legal aid you shell out. Stop the legal aid, the lawyers go away , and we can get on witb deporting all the illegals.

    1. SecretPeople
      November 9, 2022

      This needs to be looked at urgently.

  13. rose
    November 8, 2022

    I don’t understand why your two learned friends can’t enforce the existing law which says that no-one coming from France or Belgium is a refugee; and that anyone arriving uninvited on a beach, without identity, without a passport, without a visa, will not be admitted. Just as they would not be admitted at any other border in the country.

    The more new laws they pass, the more loopholes the immigration industry will find.

    1. SecretPeople
      November 9, 2022

      Exactly, just enforce the existing law. But stop the lawyers from acting against the interests of this country and its people.

  14. Sandra Gibson
    November 8, 2022

    “If” we need to make changes? He says. Changes “must” be made.

    This situation is abhorrent. Economic migrants who have entered our country illegally are ferried here by our own boats, put in 4 & 5 star hotels, fed three meals a day and given pocket money whilst we are struggling to pay our heating bills and sitting in our homes cold. Some will die of the cold this winter, others will not be able to afford to eat and heat properly. We are cutting costs with food and heating and limiting our car journeys because of the price of fuel. To see this happening in our own country is sickening. We don’t know who these people are, or what diseases they are bringing with them and they are using our NHS.

    The way they are treated is an advert to come here, they must send photos home and others will think it’s the land of milk and honey – it is for them. No wonder they come, we have to stop treating them like this. They’re in safe Countries in France and Europe so they’re not genuine asylum seekers.

    I believe that the Government actually wants them here, if they didn’t, they would have changed the law and done something about it – they do nothing!

    I will never vote Conservative again whilst this is happening. Do something and do it now, we’ve all had enough, you should be helping the people of this country, which is in a desperate state.

    Chickpea

    1. rose
      November 8, 2022

      Sandra, I am sorry to say the politicians are still more afraid of the media than they are of us. That is why they won’t do anything.

    2. Donna
      November 9, 2022

      I suspect there was a quiet agreement that the UK would “take its fair share” of the migrants the EU has allowed to flood in ….. but for appearances sake, the French Government pretends to try and stop them leaving the beaches and the British Government pretends that it wants them stopped.

      If they WANTED to stop it, they would.

  15. Mike
    November 8, 2022

    “In my area” say’s it all – NIMBYism at its best

  16. Jamie
    November 8, 2022

    I read where we are short of lorry drivers and busdrivers, we are also short of agricultural workers – so then why are these new additions to our country not trained up and put to use immediately. .. Jeez as usual we are looking at this the wrong way round.

    1. Fedupsoutherner
      November 8, 2022

      Jamie. We’ve got plent of our own people sitting on their laurels claiming benefits that could do those jobs. We don’t need invaders.

      1. Shirley M
        November 9, 2022

        +1 some of them are far better off than the the ones who work to pay the taxes that pay their benefits. The system is ripe for milking, if you are that way inclined, and many are! Being of the majority culture, and a law abiding legal citizen in this country makes you one of the mugs! Minorities and freeloaders get priority.

      2. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        These well financed young, fit men will not drive lorries, buses nor work in agriculture.
        Waiting for a house, live on benefits, eventually have the extended family join them.

      3. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        laurels? – do you mean backsides?

    2. Diane
      November 9, 2022

      No. They should not set foot in the first place. Other countries and their governments which don’t govern and which don’t give a damn, losing their own, in most cases, perfectly fit, healthy & likely capable nationals. And still we throw money in their direction. We are being done over in duplicate in many cases. Yes, there are always exceptions. Temporary protection where needed. What about the subsequent incoming chain migration no one seems to take into account, the numbers on the beaches are just the start.

    3. Original Richard
      November 10, 2022

      Jamie : “I read where we are short of lorry drivers and busdrivers, we are also short of agricultural workers – so then why are these new additions to our country not trained up and put to use immediately[?].”

      Isn’t that slavery?

      And what on earth makes you think these illegal migrants would prefer to work in the cold, wet fields rather than staying in a nice, warm, comfortable hotel room with all meals, healthcare etc paid for plus ÂŁ40/week pocket money and the freedom to roam our streets and if they want take untaxed black jobs or even take part in more lucrative criminal activities?

      Stay long enough and they get priority treatment for housing and then all their extended family can come to the UK.

  17. Cuibono
    November 8, 2022

    Maybe it all goes back to 1976 when Healey had a loan from the IMF. Even then the Treasury “got the bloody figures wrong” according to Healey
which raises suspicion really. The situation was not as bad as the Treasury made out (familiar?) and U.K. has been hooked on debt ever since.
    The two things govts have relied on for apparent growth have been rising house prices and immigration.
    How can that change now?
    The whole of the EU is in awful financial trouble and playing the same game. US too.
    There will be NO WINNERS!!

    1. rose
      November 8, 2022

      It all goes back to Macmillan in 1958 when his entire Treasury team resigned.

  18. acorn
    November 8, 2022

    JR, any idea how much the Hoteliers in your area are charging the Home Office for rooms? Accommodating such alien immigrant guests must carry a high risk premium; particularly the risk of having their property fire bombed by some right-wing nutters inspired by the right-wing tabloid media. The Home Office is not exactly in a bargaining position against such Hoteliers. But a least it is a chance for Hoteliers to claw back some Covid period losses.

    PS. Did you hear the one about some MPs getting peerages, but not wanting to stand down as commoner MPs because it would cause by-elections.

    1. Narrow Shoulders
      November 9, 2022

      How many fires have been started by immigrants protesting against their circumstances v how many people with mental health issues firebombing their locus?

      You assess risk as part of your role do you not? How would you assess that?

  19. Keith Collyer
    November 8, 2022

    And in that, you know Jenrick either hasn’t got a clue or is playing to the gallery. Most people affected by slavery in the UK are British citizens. Most people abusing the legislation are British citizens.

  20. Narrow Shoulders
    November 8, 2022

    How is paying to get on a boat covered by modern slavery?

    If they owe money for getting on the boat then surely that is deliberately putting oneself in harm’s way and inadmissible.

  21. glen cullen
    November 8, 2022

    Breaking News – Gavins Resigned
    Sir Gavin Alexander Williamson CBE, Minister of State without Portfolio – Why are we giving non-people non-jobs in the first place !!!

    1. Donna
      November 9, 2022

      I expect it was a job intended to encourage him to “keep his mouth shut. “

      1. Mickey Taking
        November 9, 2022

        he obviously has trouble with his written words and his verbal delivery.

  22. Bloke
    November 8, 2022

    Parliament is obsessed with adding new details to laws and revising and revoking faulty ones. Laws should be concise, relevant and long-lasting to be fit for purpose. Judges can decide if an accused offender has broken the law or not. Adding virtually-endless detail and needless complications creates the nuisance that prevails now. Gormless lawmakers produce inflated and convoluted legislation, resulting in multiple levels of appeals via damaging loopholes, guilty people being beyond jurisdiction based on flimsy technicalities and justice long-delayed. That is Justice Denied.

  23. Chickpea
    November 8, 2022

    This situation has to be stopped. We have illegal, economic migrants being kept by the taxpayers in 4 & 5 star hotels, given three meals a day and pocket money, they are kept warm, whilst the people of this Country are not putting their heating on, they’re cold in their own homes and they’re not eating properly because they can’t afford to, whilst illegals are living in luxury hotels most of us could only dream of staying in because we can’t afford to – it’s abhorrent.

    It’s an insult to the honest, hardworking taxpayers to keep people who come here illegally, travelling through many safe countries to get here. It’s not surprising they come, they are encouraged and incentivised with our system. We don’t know who these people are and what diseases they are bringing here. Many, we know are criminals and drug dealers responsible for organised crime.

    The Conservative party is responsible for this situation because they choose not to do anything, laws need to be changed but they don’t change them. They must want these people here. Their time in office is coming to an end however, many can’t wait to vote them out.

  24. The Prangwizard
    November 9, 2022

    The tories are deliberately betraying our country and its original people. Bring hundreds of thousand from anywhere to replace us. There isn’t a single tory MP who will leave the party no matter how much it ruins us. The reason is they think they are the country; that they are entitled to rule and place orders over us.

    They care not a moment and none understand us. They were brought up, educated and socialised in their separate parallel world.

    And look who we now have as a PM a man from a foreign cultural and religious upbringing built on total class separation. He has no idea about common English people except what he has read about. He is so rich he does not need to think about any reality.

    Just Stop Oil get their way. Boat people get their way. We demand ours. Similar action by us ought to get the same sympathy and support from politicians like they do. We must not let them oppress us any more.

  25. glen cullen
    November 9, 2022

    Nothing ..nothing can be done until we repeal our membership of the Council of Europe ECHRs

  26. Original Richard
    November 10, 2022

    Perhaps the PM’s plan to reduce immigration, illegal or legal, is to make the UK less attractive?

    Perhaps by ensuring that we are completely broke and running an expensive and intermittent energy system dependent upon China to deliver spare parts for the broken down turbines and solar panels when we have made the next payment?

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