The long draft EU UK Treaty reveals once again a UK government that thinks negotiations with the EU are about taking dictation of theit terms. So often there does nit seem to be anyone speaking up for the UK.
Facts4eu have set out sone of the detail and implications of this latest give away. I have asked the Minister in the Lords to set out high high the financial cost if this deal will be for Gibraltar. How much will the handling charges be? What excise tariffs will be imposed by joining the Customs Union? What will be the compliance costs of all the EU regulations to be imposed? How much money will be given to the adjacent area of Spain in levelling up funds?.Which other taxes will be raised? What impact will thus gave on the Gibraltar business model where lower taxes and sensible regulation have helped create prosperity. The Minister had no reply on the total costs. When I buy something I expect to know the price before I say Yes, it is good value.
The government claims there will be no loss of sovereignty.How come? If Gibraltar has to accept EU laws whenever they add or change them, and put taxes and charges at their demand, surely that is a material loss of sovereignty?
The only good thing about the Treaty is the get out clause. Future governments of the UK and Gibraltar may need a unilateral exit without penalties. The Opposition in Gibraltar is understandably concerned about the role of Spanish officials in controlling entry into Gibraltar in future. The UK government should be concerned about EU and Spanish leverage over the airport. Our crucial military base needs free access for military personnel and materiel, where the small print of the Agreement needs careful testing.
March 6, 2026
The barrage of idiot actions is relentless.
We have the most incompetent people in the country negotiating for us, taxing us and imposing laws upon us.
This simply can’t go on. Something is going to give.
The sooner the better….
March 6, 2026
Indeed – but we likely have 3 more years prob. under Rayner, Streeting, Miliband, Mahmood the odds suggest – in that order. My money is on Rayner she needs to cash for her stamp duty error after all. Streeting is too right wing for the party voters and will not even win his seat back, Miliband’s net zero lunacy is now widely recognised as lunacy by the unions & all but the BBC/Sakara types and a few humanities and art graduates, Mahmood even thinks £40k bribes to encourage even more illegal migrants to come is a good plan!
March 6, 2026
an election will not fix this, the rot is far deeper.
March 6, 2026
Yep.
March 6, 2026
Indeed even if Reform do winn a large overall majority (which is far less likely than some dire coalition) they will still have one hell of a job to do a new “Restoration”. Will reform MPs even be more trustworthy than the con-socialists we got under Cameron, May, Boris and Sunak who promised on thing and deliberately delivered the complete reverse.
Britain Needs a New Restoration by David Starkey – video.
March 6, 2026
The highest taxes since the war and still rising with fiscal drag and minimum wage rises (another back door tax increase), appalling public services, dire defences, energy at 4 times the cost of what it should be & yet still they need to borrow even more money to waste!
March 6, 2026
Surrender, Surrender, Surrender. The daily barrage of giveaways from this incompetent spineless government.
We are a laughing stock on the world stage because we have no military and we pursue the ruinous net stupid road.
Reform will hopefully pulk out of these one sided agreements making clear no penalties will we paid.
Is there no way to be rid of these Marxist cliwns.
March 6, 2026
Your ‘solution’ will finish Britain off for good.
March 6, 2026
Current alternatives offer less than nothing
March 6, 2026
@LL. AI gave me a very rough cost (very rough but bear with me) of repairing all the UK’s potholes. Apparently a billion quid would repair them all, fourteen times over. It makes you weep to see billions taken off us and squandered while our infrastructure crumbles.
March 6, 2026
Just a reminder that wind is currently supplying 4% of our electricity and gas plus nuclear 61%.
Makes a mockery of Milibrains renewable claims.
March 6, 2026
They’re not incompetent: they’re on a mission to make it impossible for this country to function as an independent, Sovereign, nation state and they’re implementing it very effectively. The Uni-Party has been doing it for decades; Two-Tier has just turbo-charged it, to reverse Brino.
1. Destroy the borders and a sense of nationhood
2. Destroy independent military capability
3. Destroy independent energy security
4. Destroy food security
5. Wreck the economy
March 6, 2026
Seems so!
March 6, 2026
Great summary
March 6, 2026
There are many who hate the west. Christian Today describe how and why we have an attack on the west’s way of life.
“In the days following the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, it was believed that workers’ revolution would sweep into Europe and, eventually, into the United States. But it did not do so. Towards the end of 1922 the Communist International (Comintern) began to consider what were the reasons. On Lenin’s initiative a meeting was organised at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow.
“The aim of the meeting was to clarify the concept of, and give concrete effect to, a Marxist cultural revolution.”
I have put in the link as it is useful to read and understand. I hope that’s okay?
https://www.christiantoday.com.au/news/the-frankfurt-school-and-the-war-on-the-west.html
March 6, 2026
Quite – plan on the basis they are doing all this intentionally to our disadvantage and start securing evidence in preparation for multiple misconduct in public office charges.
Loss of public office is clearly not enough of a penalty to prevent their destructive behaviour so they need to see the real probability of personal, professional and financial ruin looming ahead.
March 6, 2026
@Donna – so true. There is a destruction bit, remove what always worked and worked well to be replaced with the personal image of a Marxist State
March 6, 2026
We don’t have the ability to defend anything including ourselves, so of course it will all be stripped from us.
If you can’t hold it, you can’t have it. Real “International Law”.
March 6, 2026
And most of these ideas and actions aren’t in their election manifesto …..therefore not a government of mandate nor consent
March 6, 2026
Thanks to Parliament just another 3 plus year, to endure the not quite 2 years of destruction
March 6, 2026
The more one sees of this appalling Starmer, Reeves, Miliband, Lammy, Phillipson, Mamood… government the more convinced I am that they are not just incompetent and dim but they do actually want to damage the interests of the UK, its citizens, the economy, defence and its tax payers as much as possible – whenever and wherever they can.
I see that Mamood wants to encourage even more asylum claimants to arrive by paying then £40,000 if they fail and leave. We need deterrents to stop/restrict the flow Shabana not yet more incentives to get here – surely this is obvious to anyone other than this government and all governments from Blair’s on. Heads you win & tails you win £40,000 about 4 years of tax for an average UK worker. The doom-loop agenda continues and speeds up.
March 6, 2026
She is empowering and enriching her own people.
Why are you surprised?
March 6, 2026
The government claims there will be no loss of sovereignty.How come? If Gibraltar has to accept EU laws whenever they add or change them, This labour government are really taking the Brits for complete idiots you’ve got to be bloody dim to not realise Starmer and his bunch of misfit muppets is getting us back into bed by the back door into the EU and putting two fingers up to the millions that voted us out of the dreaded EU club, the British people can only take so much and that would be the edge for liebour if they continue down this rocky road
March 6, 2026
Some other blatant political lies:-
Ted Heath’s 1971 white paper famously claimed “There is no question of Britain losing essential sovereignty” by joining the European Economic Community (EEC). This assertion contradicted private advice he received regarding the serious, long-term surrenders of sovereignty required for a federal European state.
Wilson’s “this will not affect the pound in your pocket” a blatant lie made by UK Prime Minister Harold Wilson on November 19, 1967, following the devaluation of the British pound sterling by 14.3% also affected the £s in your bank and any other loans you had made to people etc.
March 6, 2026
same as the UK/India so called trade deal. its mostly about UK issuing vast numbers of visas for Indian nationals to come here.
our rulers are traitors.
March 6, 2026
If the British “negotiators” originate from the British Establishment they won’t be speaking in our interests: they never have since the Foreign Office Senior Civil Servant, Sir CON O’Neill – what an appropriate name! – led Heath’s treacherous “negotiations” to take us into the EEC.
Unfortunately when it comes to Gibraltar, Two-Tier has the appalling Windsor Treachery to use as justification ….. and the Not-a-Conservative-Government was responsible for that example of “not acting in the UK’s interest.”
I expect he’ll be giving away the Channel Islands next, and then maybe the Falklands.
March 6, 2026
We know this Labour administration is eager to remove the last vestiges of empire from Britain’s control. That is what the Chagos give away is about, it is what the Gibraltar give away is about, the unsubtle use of the word treaty to put quasi legitimacy on matters ignores the most basic legal point. Gibraltar is British thanks to a treaty signed with Spain the Utrecht treaty of 1715. The EU is not a sovereign entity with whom any legally binding treaty can be signed, the EU is a bureaucracy.
The next give away will be the Falklands.
March 6, 2026
Do you think Starmer is trying to give away as many British territories as he can before he’s finally kicked out?
As for Mahmood’s idea of paying failed asylum seekers £40K to leave. Is she totally stupid? They’ll leave then get on the next dinghy back and start again.
March 6, 2026
I don’t believe this “Government” will willingly bring forward a General Election, quite the opposite in fact. What I think is possible is that there will be a financial meltdown in 2027 that will force them out. Gilt debt has to be renewed (rolled over) and the markets will demand higher and higher yields to do so under Reeves. Nothing dramatic, just slow but continual increases. The new oil & gas crisis is likely to accelerate this process, even if the Iranian issue is resolved quickly, which frankly I doubt.
Been thinking about getting a log burner put in and building up a log pile. Maybe re-open the veg garden too (and persuade my daughter-in-law to look after it 🙂 )
March 6, 2026
Sir Two Tier and his cabal do not seem hugely invested in the sovereignty of the UK.
Happy to be brow beaten by any supranational authority which claims jurisdiction and then presenting it as in our interests to be close to these authorities.
Try for a little independence and see how we do. But given the OBR models lower growth from a reduction in low/no wage immigration. I think it unlikely that anyone will ever put the subsistence/independence argument forward again.
March 6, 2026
Anything against British interest to demonstrate the Governments loyalty to the EU will do. Its not about the People or the Nation it is about self.
What Parliament forgets as this there chosen Government, every single MP owns the directions being taken.
March 6, 2026
All the while 2TK has his obscene 5 year term given to him by his adoring majority of MPs in this wreak of a Parliament, the destruction will go on. You can’t build in your own personal image without destroy all else in your path.
Reflect on the destruction with not even 2 years in office and then you have the picture for the next 3+ years.
It was dangerous from the outset to allow 5 year terms in office and then to suggest this is a democracy we live in. There is no seeking approval just straight forward dictatorship. There is no opposition to challenge, there can be no vote of confidence. The people the electorate is denied a voice for 5 whole wreaking years. The only thing to emphasise is those that are keeping 2TK in power, because he is their Gang Boss, are what once refereed to as MPs from the Workers Party ‘Labour’ and their Union sponsors. What they also need to be made constantly reminded of they ‘own’ the direction 2TK as taken them and the Nation and they as individuals ‘own’ every decision, every utterance. Is he defending Workers, the Nation or himself, is he working for the Labour and
Unions membership or just destroying their jobs, their hopes, their future. He and his legal ‘cabal’ have high-jacked a party, he has and is trashing everyone’s future, the last thing his little ‘gang’ can be called is ‘workers’ they don’t know what that means
March 6, 2026
Has anybody asked the PM just who he is working for?
With his give-aways he clearly isn’t working for the British people – he seems utterly confused about the general subject of sovereignty. It’s time he was was tested on his thinking, his logic, because it is at odds with the rest of us.
Is it the Eu that he serves or perhaps it is the WEF, or is he more aligned with the failing and woke UN, or perhaps all 3? Any but the UK.
These sell-outs were always on his agenda from day-1 although he kept them hidden. Perhaps this is his way of taking us to the great RESET by ruining us in every possible way first.
March 6, 2026
Labour is the womb of crisis, in permanent productive activity with any foreign interest. Gestation period one week max.
March 6, 2026
O/T but symbolic of these times and possibly of interest to Wokingham constituents – last week I parked my 2.3litre “classic” car on a street in Reading. The new pay terminal obviously checked emissions against my numberplate and charged me over £16 for three hours parking. If you refuse to drive those short lived and road damaging EVs (why do you think there are now so many pot holes?) you must be punished.
March 6, 2026
I have an uncomfortable feeling that there is something sinister about this government that goes beyond the usual gaslighting and obfuscation. Sadly I know not what it is.
March 6, 2026
We’ve been giving up territory for years so we should be used to it by now.
What are the reasons for giving away the Chagos and Gibraltar;Noone seems to be able to say;In the last week the strategic importance of the Chagos to the UK and USA in the Iran conflict should be self evident.For the UK to have and keep control of these islands is important so we have authority and control over the USA which gives us an advantage when negotiating tariffs.
Gibraltar gives us strategic control over the main entrance into the Mediterranean with onward access to the Suez Canal.Why give it up?
If the UK gives up sovereign territory then what would be the reason for not giving up the Falklands which so many fought for and died for.
No-one in their right mind gives away land for nothing without getting something in return for it so what is the UK getting in return.Can someone please explain what the benefit is to the UK in doing this??
March 6, 2026
Idiocy or incompetence, stupidity or senselessness, dithery or dumb, Sir Keir, give it all away, Starmer is surely the worst PM of the last two centuries. A man with no vision, no plan, no guiding principles, who is a disaster for the UK. A man who does not believe in democracy, because if he did, he would not be taking us back into the EU by stealth. A man who does not believe in the UK or its people, giving away UK assets like the Chagos Islands and Gibraltar. A man who has done nothing in a dangerous world to invest in our defence and military.
We have no defence against Iranian Drones, and they will find a way to hit London. But the PM says it is all the fault of 14 years of Conservative government. Time, Kemi said stop living in the past, and face up to your total lack of responsibility and incompetence in the real world today!
March 6, 2026
Could the contributors actually read http://www.gov.uk 26/02/2026 ‘Summary: Draft UK-EU agreement in respect of Gibraltar’ or possibly the 1018 pages of the full document.
Isn’t it a bit rich to refer the contributors to a facts4eu.org ‘analysis’ when the original is accessible to anybody curious enough to see it for themselves?
March 6, 2026
@hefner – as it says it is the EU, with their surrogate authorities that get a say on who and what can enter UK territory even if coming from the UK. The rest of it is just ‘puff’
March 6, 2026
For Starmer’s Gang the EU is the next step to a global socialist order to replace nation states. As Fabians they believe sovereign nation states should not exist and by extension, neither should any right of self-determination. Starmer has himself said he wants Britain in regulatory alignment with the EU so close there is no difference. Starmer’s Gang hate Britain’s past and are driven by hatred to dispose of all vestiges of the British empire. The Chagos deal is punishment and reparations for Britain’s past with no expected future benefits for Britain. The Gibaltar deal is a great bonus to Starmer’s Gang as a down payment on the future socialist order to be achieved through the EU, rather than their Communist but distant allies in China. But both align with the Gang’s ideological leanings towards communism and Islamism, an unholy union if ever there was one.
March 6, 2026
@Peter Gardner +1
March 6, 2026
Once it was that ‘quality’ could rise through the political ranks but that is no longer the case – intelligent challengers for office today are very often sidelined by cliques and lobby groups so quality knows and quality stays away to follow other carerr paths. Next thing Britain has not had the best negotiators at the front over the past twenty thirty years or so also serious strategy has often been missing as in the case of the brexit exit negotiations. We joined and we leff and now want to rejoin in a different way and then only some of us – we gotta make up our minds because at every turn we are losing ground like at Gibraltar Chagos etc – Brexit was a big big mistake and the first step to making it right is by admitting it.
March 6, 2026
66 ‘illegal immigrants’ invaded the UK 5th March 2026 …