My IEA article on EU

I did not expect to have to spend time rehearsing all the arguments we made to leave the EU so soon after we left in 2020. When we joined the EEC those of us who lost that referendum did not call for a new vote six years later. Treaty after Treaty went by taking ever more powers to Brussels fundamentally changing what  the public had voted for. We waited until Maastricht and its radical changes. A “Common market” was evolving into a political and economic Union.  We finally got a vote 41 years after the first.
Too little has changed since we left. Successive UK governments have been slow to make the good changes an independent country can make. We  still live under reams of EU laws and taxes which slow our economy down as they did when we were in the EU. We do however enjoy some good wins from no longer paying huge sums to the EU. Much more than the £350 m of savings a week on the side of the Brexit bus has been allocated in extra spending to the NHS. The UK has ducked having to pay  a share of the £750 bn the EU is now borrowing  in its own name. As we have plenty of debt of our own that is a blessing.
There  are some ironies in the Brexit freedoms the Labour government have been able  to use despite their hostility to  the UK going it alone. The damaging  VAT on school fees policy beloved of the left and the  more sensible cut in VAT on electricity  were  only possible thanks  to Brexit. The government has enjoyed taking credit for trade deals with countries like India  and with the  Pacific countries TPP which were well advanced when they took over. They  were only possible because we have regained control of our trade policy from the EU.
Remain politicians have wrongly claimed UK GDP took a 4% or an 8% hit from leaving , based  on a misinterpretation  of  forecasts that said no such thing. One said over fifteen  years  we might have 0.25% less growth per year, making 4% less growth in total by 2035, whilst the  UK economy would still carry on growing. The  other said if we grew like the  USA and a few other faster growing countries we would be 8% better off. That  of course would never have happened if we stayed in slow growth EU usually managing only half the US growth rate. Neither forecast said GDP would fall after the  vote. The Remain campaign wrongly claimed we would see falling GDP, falling house prices, rising unemployment if we voted Out. The opposite happened in 2016.
UK GDP tracked EU GDP fairly closely from 2016 and from leaving in 2020. Like EU economies there was a sharp fall in GDP in 2020 with covid lockdown, and a big recovery in the following two years. The UK did not suffer an additional Brexit fall. The UK has been growing faster than Germany and a little faster than France since 2016. Our trade, especially with the rest of the world and in services, has grown well. The majority of our trade is services, and a majority is with non EU.
Some say we would grow faster if we rejoined the Customs Union. The opposite would be true. We took tariffs off non EU imports of food and goods we cannot produce  for ourselves. We took tariffs off raw materials and components industry needs to import to add value  and make things here. The Customs Union would increase the  squeeze on consumers, put prices up, raise industry’s costs and make us less competitive. We would  need to give up our Free Trade Agreements  with non EU countries, slowing trade growth with the rest of the  world which is now the majority of our trade.
The government says we need to re set our EU relationship. This is code for rejoining by stealth. They will agree to progressively adopt  more EU laws and taxes, sector  by sector, until we are more fully back under EU control. The  idea is to start with food where UK exports are small and where the EU is keen to dominate our market, keeping out non EU cheaper food  through regulations and tariffs. The government is scrambling to avoid the imposition of regulations which would inhibit or ban the great work in the UK on genetic modification of crops to deal with pests and low rainfall.
The UK has established higher levels of animal welfare in farm trade, banning the export of live animals and establishing better standards for animal husbandry. These too could be at risk with  a poor Re set.
The Re set will require agreement on a Youth mobility scheme. This is an EU attempt to reintroduce much of the freedom of movement of people that applies to EU member states. The problem for the UK is it is likely to be one sided. There are many more under 30s on the continent than in the UK. There is a bigger proportion  wanting to come to the UK to take advantage of our high standards of university education and jobs available, and wanting to improve their English. There is a smaller percentage of UK young people with enough foreign language skill to go to a continental university or get a foreign job.
As the UK struggles with its own young people problem with far too many out of work and not studying, the last thing our jobs market needs is more young people seeking work. Our universities are apprehensive that the student deal may entail including a big discount on the fees European students in the Uk currently pay as the EU presses to get the much more favourable UK home student terms. How will they make up the lost income?
The UK has already sold out on the EU Erasmus student scheme, agreeing in principle to pay a ridiculously expensive £800 m a year to a fund  which will help a lot more EU than UK students. It means ending the successful and cheaper Turing scheme which only pays out to UK students and allows them to go to universities all round the world, not just in the EU like Erasmus. UK students are keener to go to high quality universities in the USA and other English speaking centres.
As the UK is brought into more EU laws and regulations under the Re Set proposals the UK will have to pay an administrative charge to cover EU costs, whilst also incurring its own substantial costs on government and business from the laws themselves. Worse still the EU is threatening to insist on a solidarity charge where UK taxpayers have to contribute to public spending in the lower income member states! The costs of Re Set will be billions a year. The UK government has no extra money spare, so which taxes will it put up to pay these extra and needless EU bills?
The UK government sacrificed a large quantity of our fish stocks to EU fishing licences for 12 years, giving away around £6bn of value just to get into talks. It showed the EU that if it just hangs tough the UK wilk give plenty more away. The UK never negotiates as the customer, yet with such a large balance of trade deficit with the EU we are more customer than exporter. Why don’t we demand payments for access to our lucrative market? Why don’t we set standards for the conduct of this trade? Why don’t we show that our lower tariffs and fewer rules delivers better results? That after all is what the Draghi Report is telling the EU from one of its own most famous insiders.
Worse comes in the energy sector. The EU wants the UK to join its carbon tax and emissions trading scheme, which entails even higher costs than our own domestic version. The last thing we need is dearer energy to close down more of our factories. The EU is successfully making the UK dependent on importing energy from the continent as net zero policies close down the older fossil fuel stations that always gave the UK electricity independence. The coming carbon border tax will be another rise in the costs of industry’s imports of raw materials and other supplies, adding to the lack of competitiveness.
Mr Burnham’s idea that maybe we should go back into the EU is  completely absurd. Why would the EU allow it when the main opposition parties would be opposed and threatening to pull out as soon as they won an election? The EU would be bound to say no more rebate on contributions, greatly hiking the cost of membership compared to last time. They would want us inside their Euro scheme preparing to abolish the pound. They see us as Treasure island, weak enough to pay them large sums and with sufficient borrowing power and taxing power to be able to afford a larger contribution. They should realise this time the UK has overspent and over borrowed despite saving billions from ending its expensive membership. It is doubtful the UK does now have the borrowing and taxing capacity to  add large EU bills and debts to its big collection of home grown ones.
Any attempt to take us back in would need a new referendum. Polling shows people feel let down by the lack of progress after Brexit, but are still strongly against surrendering powers back to Brussels.  It didn’t work last time. Since then the EU has become an even slower growth area slipping further and further behind US economic and digital success.

62 Comments

  1. Mick
    October 10, 2026

    I did not expect to have to spend time rehearsing all the arguments we made to leave the EU so soon after we left in 2020.
    And so you shouldn’t, if the remainders what to live in the EU of milk and honey then bugger off and live there I’ve no objection whatsoever to that but stop this constant whining about how fantastic Brussels wonderland is because it isn’t, we are now a free democratic country who can vote into power to run us admittedly we Slipped up in 2024 but we will have a chance for change soon which will be down to us and not some unelected bureaucrats in Brussels to dictate what we can or not do

    1. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2026

      Indeed but what is the chance of a decent government that can and will actually deliver a Starkey style reformation to undo the disasters of Heath, Major, Brown, Blair through to Sunak, Starmer and Burnham and turn the UK ship in the right direction. This against all the forces of the blob, judiciary, quangos, lefty charities, the globalists, climate alarmists. International bodies and vested interests.

      Starkey puts it at only 20% even that is optimistic I think.

      1. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2026

        Housing Minister Matthew Pennycook has announced a new government consultation in England to extend Awaab’s Law to the private rented sector, setting legally binding repair deadlines for dangerous damp, mould, and other hazards.

        So she following up on Socialist (and Greta disciple) Gove’s agenda. Of course landlords would fix leaking gutters, roofs etc. but the main cause of damp it tenant unable to afford to heat the properties properly or open the windows to ventilate or drying lots of wet clothes on rads in the house or often illegally subletting so the place is over crowded. Does she want no one to let properties at all?

      2. Lifelogic
        October 10, 2026

        A tweet by Nick Timothy MP

        Labour’s “Islamophobia” definition was almost certainly influenced by extremists.
        Ministers said the evidence was deleted – but I proved this was a lie.
        Now they say it’s not in the “public interest” to reveal which groups took part.
        My letter to the official in charge:

    2. Ian Wragg
      October 10, 2026

      John, have you sent a copy of this article to Burnham who despite the EU going up in flames is determined to rejoin. He was cosying up to Mertz who is a busted flush but no price is too much for liebour to rejoin.
      Much of the red wall voted to leave so he’s alienating his core voters but that doesn’t bother him.
      Let’s hope the Manchester funding scandals bring him down.

      1. Peter
        October 10, 2026

        ‘ The government says we need to re set our EU relationship. This is code for rejoining by stealth.’

        Agreed. This says it all in a nutshell.

        1. John in Kent
          October 10, 2026

          What’s your problem? If the voters want us to rejoin, then we rejoin. Brexit was all about letting Brits choose, right?

          1. Berkshire Alan
            October 10, 2026

            John in Kent
            If the EU is so great, why are thousands of people risking their lives leaving to get here across the Channel ?
            Why is legal migration still in the hundreds of thousands.
            If you live in Kent you must be aware of the problem first hand, we have family members living in Kent who for many years have seen illegals running through fields to escape capture from lorries, before we ran a Channel taxi service to collect them.

          2. Lynn Atkinson
            October 10, 2026

            The voters gave their instruction.
            What’s your problem?
            It’s £50,000,000 each time you ask.
            Agree that if the voters give the same answer as last time, the Rejoin Campaign pays ALL COSTS, including the Sovereign Britain Campaign costs, all volunteers entitled to £25 per hour.

          3. Sam
            October 10, 2026

            Approximately 40 years went by after the previous referendum in 1975 before another was allowed John in Kent.
            My view is that timescale should be repeated.

  2. John in Kent
    October 10, 2026

    You do not help your case by misrepresenting the arguments. UK GDP is c 6-8% lower than it would be had we remained in the EU. The evidence is here, and you should read it. https://www.nber.org/papers/w34459

    Reply You should read it. It isnt what this proves at all. The main comparison is with the US.We all agree we are growing more slowly than the US. That is a good argument for getting out of the EU whose laws and taxes gave us slower growth than US!

    1. Dave Andrews
      October 10, 2026

      I’d like to see what the figures would be had we not voted for a Labour government. I expect the impact has been massive. In or out of the EU is a minor detail compared with voting for true blood socialists to run your country.

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        October 10, 2026

        Johnson was worse!

    2. Ian B
      October 10, 2026

      @Reply – if had fully left and were treated in the same way the USA is we would have a GDP up there with them. The half in half out kneeling down to the EU, sending the EU UK Taxpayer money to prop up there institutions keeps us under the thumb and subordinate

    3. Ed M
      October 10, 2026

      John,
      Look at other facts/figures and you’ll see no dramatic difference either way GDP.
      I support sovereignty for many reasons, the main one being PERSONALITY!
      That each country has its own unique and wonderful personality. Bit like human beings. ‘Be yourself, everyone else is taken!’ – Oscar Wilde.
      Like human beings, we should have close and warm and friendly relations with other countries. Whilst still remaining our unique, authentic and sovereign selves.

  3. Sakara Gold
    October 10, 2026

    What can be said about Trump’s announcement that he has agreed with the war criminal Putin that America will import 300,000 tons of Russian diesel? Shortly after signing the bipartisan sanctions bill which will punish countries for importing Russian oil?

    The global diesel shortage is largely driven by the president’s war with Iran

    Putin will be in ecstasies over this. At long last he has achieved his objective, to drive a wedge between America and it’s NATO allies, who will be aghast at this betrayal of Ukraine after four long years of war

    Trump has now transitioned from cutting off all military and financial aid to Ukraine to actively supporting Russia and it’s leader, the war criminal Putin. And incidentally, Trump has also sanctioned the International Criminal Court, who designated Putin and Netanyahu as war criminals

    Looking at the damage that Ukraine has succeeded in doing to Russian diesel refining capacity, there is likely to be very little Russian diesel available. Big Oil repriced global diesel down a mere 4% last night.

    The West now has to deal with an American president who intends to withdraw US forces from Europe shortly and who is now actively supporting a dictator who has been carrying out “hybrid” sabotage operations against his NATO allies for months. This is not going to end well for the West

    1. Dave Andrews
      October 10, 2026

      Russia already has fuel shortages. Diverting supplies to the US will just exacerbate misery for ordinary Russians. Good job they love their president.

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        October 10, 2026

        There are no fuel shortages in Russia.
        Russia already supplies Europe, including Britain although the political class pay a premium to say it’s ‘Indian oil’ (from all those famous Indian oil fields😂🤣).
        The USA needs diesel. They ‘are not at war with Russia’ – NATO assets this repeatedly.
        So what’s the problem?
        Unless you want Britain buying oil etc openly from Russia you better tell the moronic Downing St Crewe to open our North Sea fields.

    2. Stred
      October 10, 2026

      The EU is currently importing more Russian LPG than previously, as reserves are low and winter is approaching. Tankers arrive in France, Holland and Germany. We are paying 5x the price in the USA. At the same time, France and the UK are seizing Russian oil tankers and supplying Ukraine with missiles and drones to attack Russian refineries and civilian targets, using US satellite data and buying US missiles. While Russian missiles and drones are destroying Ukrainian arms factories and energy. supplies. But the EU still is keen for Ukraine to join despite being corrupt. And any critics of the war such as Swiss colonel Baud are sanctioned by seizing their bank account and bans on travel- illegally. No wonder the Labour Party wants to rejoin the EU Commission dictatorship with its censorship and plans for war with a country with more nukes than the USA.

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        October 10, 2026

        Merz said Ukraine can’t join the EU.

    3. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2026

      “The global diesel shortage is largely driven by the president’s war with Iran”

      Well your net zero religion and the closing down of so much of our refining, fertiliser and chemicals industries plus not drilling or fracking in the UK hardly helps does it Sakara?

  4. Nick
    October 10, 2026

    Burnham’s plan is unclear. It seems to involve not a new referendum but a manifesto pledge, so voting Labour means rejoining, and if you want to rejoin you must vote Labour.

    1. Ian Wragg
      October 10, 2026

      If that happens it will probably be the first time a manifesto pledge has been kept.

    2. Peter
      October 10, 2026

      ‘ Any attempt to take us back in would need a new referendum.’

      Burnham has no mandate. So the stealth approach will continue.

      1. Berkshire Alan
        October 10, 2026

        Peter, agree.
        He will try and re-join bit by bit, and without a referendum, as they say Slowly, slowly.

        1. Gordon
          October 10, 2026

          If Parluament votes for rejoining, that’s the end of the matter. No need for a referendum

          1. Sam
            October 10, 2026

            It might be if that was part of the current Labour manifesto for the last election Gordon.
            But it
            So any such move would be illegitimate

          2. Sam
            October 10, 2026

            But it……isnt

          3. Lynn Atkinson
            October 10, 2026

            They would have to EXPLICITLY REPEAL MOST OF THE U.K. CONSTITUTION.

    3. IanT
      October 10, 2026

      Yes, it seems pretty clear that is his intention. I suspect he go will go soon too. The longer he waits, the more the novelty and ‘glow’ of being the new guy will fade away. Once the crap really hits the fan (as it’s going to) his “bounce” will be just another dead cat hitting the floor.
      He’s a much better salesman than Starmer but it’s still the same old snake oil. Hopefully people will see that before it’s too late.

    4. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2026

      So you vote before you even know the terms of rejoining will it demand the Euro, free movement of anyone granted or has bought EU status by say Spain or Malta, what will the huge fee be, will we have to remain subordinate to the EU and ECHR and to EU carbon lunacies… a great plan if Labour get back they would have to accept all that the EU demand regardless just to keep their manifesto promises!

      1. IanT
        October 10, 2026

        Seems likely LL – They really should negotiate the deal and then put the terms to us before we are asked to decide. otherwise it’s just going to be a blank cheque we are handing over to Brussels…

  5. Rod Evans
    October 10, 2026

    The political class and the establishment in general never could get over their collective EU Stockholm Syndrome.
    Labour politicians (think Kinnock’s) saw and still see the hob nobbing around the capitals of Europe as an essential part of their privileged political activities.
    The political desire to again hand over control of our affairs to an unelected commission we have only a fractional influence over and no veto power over is puzzling . Well it is a puzzle until we understand the mindset of our current batch of elected representatives. The woke, DEI, ESG, Net Zero fixated attitudes (think Miliband) ensures the EU that zealously possesses those anti growth policies suddenly looks like a safe haven option to them.

  6. Ian B
    October 10, 2026

    “Successive UK governments have been slow to make the good changes an independent country can make” – highlights the desire from a UK hating Parliament to stay under the yoke of the unelected uncountable elsewhere, so they, it’s MPs can sit on thier hands for another 5 years and do nothing other than suck upto to thier foreign masters and blame others for their own failures.

    The only question on the ballot asked ‘stay’ or ‘leave’ , ther was NO part way option. The people voted ‘leave’ that meant as everyone knew was full on WTO terms. Parliament refused the people the Country and went its own way. The problem is it is the people and the country that is paying for this betrayal, incompetence, ineptitude.

  7. Iain Gill
    October 10, 2026

    Rather highbrow for the International Energy Agency ?

    Reply Institute of Economic Affairs

  8. Bryan Harris
    October 10, 2026

    Excellent detail on why we should avoid the EU like the plague.

    It remains to be seen just why labour are so out of touch with reality on this subject.

    There are no gains to be had for the UK, so there must be other reasons why they want to force our surrender to the EU. I doubt we will get an honest answer should Burnham ever be asked that question.

    There is a massive level of deceit and misinformation from labour on the EU subject and many others. You have to wonder how any rational person not on benefits could vote for them.

  9. Iain Gill
    October 10, 2026

    we need some urgent changes.
    immediately stop commonwealth citizens from being able to vote or stand for elected office here.
    immediately stop anyone not born and brought up here from being able to stand for elected office.
    the situation in parts of the UK is as silly as the example JD Vance uses… well we could send 60,000 Americans to Greenland, hold an election, we would have the majority, and we could take over democratically… that is exactly what other countries are doing to the UK.

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      October 10, 2026

      Why are you obsessed with ‘born and brought up’?
      You give millions of aliens the right to govern Britain.
      We DON’T have Birthright citizenship, why do you want to reintroduce it?
      And to add insult to injury, you exclude genetically British people like Musk.
      It’s MADNESS AND WILL FINISH OFF THE FOUR BRITISH NATIONS.

  10. believeit
    October 10, 2026

    SJ – I don’t know how you find the time and to what purpose? The world is in such a state of chaos

    Reply I make time because this all matters. We live in sufficient of a democracy to make winning arguments and elections worthwhile. The pressures too limit or destroy democratic ways are substantial so all those of us who believe in freedom need to work for it every day.

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      October 10, 2026

      JR well said.

      1. Sam
        October 10, 2026

        I totally agree Lynn.

    2. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2026

      Thank you very much for all your work.

      “Sufficient of a democracy” alas very little real democracy in the UK. Plus now that over 50% of voters essentially live of the back of the other democracy has hige problems anyway. Far too easy for this 50% to vote for a government that steals money off the richer half of people to buy the votes of the poorer 50%.

      Would you like us to tax people richer than you and give you some of their money say the politicians? Doom loop economics that ends in disaster – but so many bitter, envious and stupid people fall for it after lefty, dire, dishonest politicians sell the con to them.

      1. Iain Gill
        October 10, 2026

        correct.

        and people who would have been self sufficient had they not been taxed until the pips squeaked are forced to be dependent on the all omnipotent state. instead of making your own decisions you are forced to accept the states decisions, and allow the state to take a 100% markup for the admin of making bad choices.

    3. Iain Gill
      October 10, 2026

      “sufficient of a democracy” not really. we have allowed self appointed elites to destroy this country. pretty soon there will be no turning back. any turning back would need massive change which the main parties show little appetite for, and are not even prepared to discuss the substance and reality in many dimensions.
      I should have stayed in the US when I was working there, and could have got to stay fairly easily. I would certainly recommend that option to all young members of my family.
      There is no future in the UK. Indeed there is no today in much of the country, its a dystopian wasteland.

  11. Derek
    October 10, 2026

    I despair of those who purport to be British yet wish us to be governed by a cabal of foreign persons based in a foreign land.
    It is though they believe ourselves incapable of governing our own country and desperately require “others”, albeit non-British, to step in and take over.
    We fought many wars over the centuries to maintain our independence and sovereignty, where millions died for OUR country, but they will have died in vain should we let ourselves be run and ruled by another group of faceless, unelected and unaccountable foreigners who have zero affiliation to OUR country.
    How can that be that be right for us proud Brits? We Brits are better doing it ourselves, and those who think otherwise do not belong here.

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      October 10, 2026

      Mostly those same people demand ‘reparations for us’ – see Lenny Henry and David Lammy.
      This is the new Tebbit cricket test.

  12. majorfrustration
    October 10, 2026

    Please explain and outline the reasons for wanting to re-join the EU. It would only bring on a civil war.

    1. Lynn Atkinson
      October 10, 2026

      Let’s hope the Labour Party have it as a Manifesto pledge.
      It will finish them off.
      The whole nation is watching Spain, France, Belgium, Austria burn.
      We hear the cries from Ireland – which has no border.
      Makerfield will not vote for that …

    2. Derek
      October 13, 2026

      Multi-clashes of cultures.

  13. ChrisS
    October 10, 2026

    Reading today’s blog my anger grew exponentially. There was nothing new, but to see everything laid out in the starkest form demonstrated only too well, the lies and false claims that the Remainer lobby have been pedalling since at least 2014. How Burnham, Davey and thousands of others can claim we would be better off back in the EU, beggars belief.

    1. Berkshire Alan
      October 10, 2026

      ChrisS
      The problem is many millions still believe the rejoin type propaganda, without doing any proper research themselves, afraid the media and broadcasters are not questioning either side’s arguments, and doing proper research themselves, just look at BBC Question Time as a good example of a one sided argument.

    2. Lifelogic
      October 10, 2026

      Indeed with things like rejoining (or further aligning) with the EU or the climate alarmists/net zero policy, or the idea of evermore red tape and tax/spend/waste policies – I find myself wondering if these people are extremely dim and totally deluded or are they blatant liars acting against the interest of the UK public for some other nefarious reasons? It must surely be one or the other.

    3. Dave Andrews
      October 10, 2026

      The biggest lie is that it is all about the economy.

  14. Lynn Atkinson
    October 10, 2026

    We Boomers are experiencing considerable difficulty communicating our successfully waged Sovereignty War to the following generations.
    They are very angry with us. Their major problem is of course the demographic one, and they are very angry even with Mrs T, citing her advertisement shaking the hand of an African man with ‘they say he’s black, we say he’s British’.
    In fact they even reject her monetarist economics, I believe on the back of that mad demographic destroying advert, the ERM and a few other little problems she was not able to deal with as well as she would have wished.
    This is a disaster. The despise us to the point where they want to scupper the State pension and leave us cold and starving.

    1. Berkshire Alan
      October 10, 2026

      Lynn
      Wait until Ai really gets going, no one will be able to believe anything without a huge amount of research.

      1. Lynn Atkinson
        October 10, 2026

        Only Grok is a truth seeker. All the rest have been ‘taught’ to lie.
        Be careful.

  15. Original Richard
    October 10, 2026

    “Too little has changed since we left. Successive UK governments have been slow to make the good changes an independent country can make.”

    Our socialist Parliaments have done all they can to stop Brexit and make sure we cannot utilise its benefits. Not only was the exit slowed down but Parliament intentionally destroyed our negotiating strength by voting that we could not leave without a deal. Of course the Socialists want to rejoin the EU because they know it will make us poorer. Socialism depends upon making and keeping people poor.

    https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/628#ayes

    1. Dave Andrews
      October 10, 2026

      I wouldn’t say joining the EU is particularly a socialist thing. Remember Michael Foot, Tony Benn, Jeremy Corbyn, Dennis Skinner, George Galloway. All socialists and eurosceptics. It’s more a desire of the political class to insulate themselves from the vagaries of answering to the electorate. Champagne socialists more like.

      1. Original Richard
        October 10, 2026

        DA: Although there are always exceptions I think this apparent conundrum can be solved by remembering how the EU has evolved from a single market (EEC), a more capitalist idea to improve trade and prosperity, into the EU a socialist construction designed to control and impoverish. I will, however, agree with you that the political class like to insulate themselves from the vagaries of answering to the electorate. It also gives them the opportunity to say one thing to their electorate and the opposite when they attend EU meetings. I also notice the EU have been very smart to employ politicians who have been rejected by their electorates.

  16. Ian B
    October 10, 2026

    The only reason these discussions are still going on is because the UK’s negotiators, and the UK’s Parliament kept the door fully ajar to step back in.

    Lets be honest the UK Parliament at every level doesn’t want or lacks the ability to be involved in managing. As we have seen in other discussions here over recent weeks, at a ‘drop of a hat’ the UK parliament will off-load any part of managing, governing to any ‘body’ or in fact anybody as part of their wheeze to suggest ‘not me’ – its the others that are to blame. Its a Parliament and Establishment not fit for purpose.

    The real hit on the UK Economy since pretending to leave the EU’s control is a Parliament and successive Governments striving to anchor us to the unelected unaccountable of the EU. The so called loss that didn’t happen to then show just a meagre gain to me is the disappointment. If we had a management able and capable to seize the unrivalled opportunity presented to the UK and its People, then to be able to work with and not fight the people we would comfortable be miles ahead. Yet because of their(the MPs) desire to get back to ‘sitting on their hands’ and the sad old staid status quo ways that have crippled and ripped apart every part of society for 40 years, we are still sloshing around half hearted at the bottom. It is not a government in isolation that is at fault, it is the UK Political Class were personal ego and ideology play front and centre above the job that is holding things back.

    I ask you, a No10 of the North, the UK taxpayer (everyone’s money tree) with the money lent to the rich of the UAE, the money to educate the EU, the money to a new EU Defence Fund, the money on foreign governments energy supplies. These are not things that free up the people or the UK they are designed to destroy the UK and its People.

    I don’t see anything changing from any of the showers hovering around that just want ‘power’, dumb power, we must do and achieve nothing power. Its all self, and personal ego, no service, and no achievement from the mass of hangers on.

  17. mr c mason
    October 10, 2026

    It’s a shame all these good arguments have to be re stated. But thank you for putting them so cogently

  18. beresford
    October 10, 2026

    You missed out the impact on the biggest problem facing this country, mass immigration. As EU members we would have to accept quotas of the migrants that the EU have encouraged. You can bet that a formula would be employed whereby our obligation would be disproportionately large and comprised of the least desirable candidates.

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